YTSEJAM Digest 1750
Today's Topics:
1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1749
by Jeff Patterson <jeff_p@rupert.oscs.montana.edu>
2) THIS IS SO IRONIC!
by Dave Hatlee <buster@ee.net>
3) Monty?
by Monty Newberry <mjnewb@mo.net>
4) 24-7 Spyz
by Monty Newberry <mjnewb@mo.net>
5) M2
by Monty Newberry <mjnewb@mo.net>
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1746
by ai292@freenet.carleton.ca (Gordon McFee)
7) DT, QR, SAV
by "Joey Axe Man" <IBANEZ_MAN@msn.com>
8) Huge mama post!
by John McCabe <caber1@cris.com>
9) Kern, jazz, skid row's rush cover
by "'THE HAND...' R. Ananda" <spod@u.washington.edu>
10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1749
by JBeck33449@aol.com
11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1749
by Yuji Miyazaki <76262.3207@CompuServe.COM>
12) RUSH tribute.
by Mithrandir <mithrandir@pb.net>
13) Re: Who is James Murphy???
by cdgroves@postoffice.utas.edu.au (Chris Groves)
14) Working Men!
by "Frank Benenati" <mojonet@pb.net>
15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1747
by Jose Luis Ramos <counterp@ctc-mundo.net>
16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1747
by Jose Luis Ramos <counterp@ctc-mundo.net>
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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 17:09:02 -0600 (MDT)
From: Jeff Patterson <jeff_p@rupert.oscs.montana.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1749
Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.3.93.960808170843.2538B-100000@rupert.oscs.montana.edu>
how can I get off of this list?
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EMAIL: jeff_p@rupert.oscs.montana.edu Jeffrey M. Patterson
WWW: http://rupert.oscs.montana.edu/~jeff_p (406) 586-6487
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Date: Thu, 08 Aug 1996 19:43:03 -0400
From: Dave Hatlee <buster@ee.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: THIS IS SO IRONIC!
Message-ID: <320A7B87.1E71@ee.net>
> From: Scotch <anthem@virginia.edu>
> To: The National Midnight Star <ytsejam@ax.com>
> Subject: Men At Work... er, Working Man.
> Well, after calls to about 10 record stores in the DFW area (and about 10
> salespeople saying "Uh, sure don't"), I finally found a place that had
> Working Man. So I'd like to thank the Jammer who, the other day, said that
> he found it at Borders Bookstore, because otherwise I would never have
This is SO incredibly ironic! Why? I'll tell ya why :)
I was looking for AWAKE and I&W for a graduation gift for a freind...
I called Borders Books and Music and asked them about both CD's, and this
is the answer I got:
"Ummm...Dream Theater? Oh that's out of print..."
"Oh, Awake? That's an import...."
"Nope, don't stock either CD"
Since I knew that was where I bought MY copies, I knew something
wasn't right (outside of the fact that the idiot told me DT was out
of print and that Awake was an Import). So, I drove down to borders,
and they had AWAKE, ACOS, and I&W right on the shelf! I almost slapped
the guy with the damn CD's when I brought them up to the counter!
I guess some store "asscoiates" have more common sense than others :)
buster
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Date: Thu, 08 Aug 1996 19:12:50 -0600
From: Monty Newberry <mjnewb@mo.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Monty?
Message-ID: <320A9092.5FF9@mo.net>
>Monty! Stop it now, I mean it !!!
>Anybody wasn a peanut?
>:)I really dig that flick!
Well, the name's not Monty, but you're not the first person to think
that (just read my name at the bottom of my posts. I don't own the
account, I just use it).
Yeah, I'll take a peanut. Honey roasted?
Kind of a cheesy flick, but not bad. It is a fantasy/fairy tale after
all. I about hit the floor when I found out that Christopher Guest (aka
Nigel Tufnel of Spinal Tap) played the guy with 6-Fingers.
Dale R. Newberry
"Mmm... Soylent Green." -Homer Simpson
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Date: Thu, 08 Aug 1996 19:25:45 -0600
From: Monty Newberry <mjnewb@mo.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: 24-7 Spyz
Message-ID: <320A9399.262A@mo.net>
Never really heard that much by them (maybe I'll go check them out
sometime - like when I get some cash and stuff), but I do believe that
Doug Pinnick (sp?) of King's X did some playing or something on their
last album (I think it was their last one - not completely sure there -
anyone else know about this?).
Dale R. Newberry
"On the other hand, you have different fingers." -Steven Wright
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Date: Thu, 08 Aug 1996 19:45:49 -0600
From: Monty Newberry <mjnewb@mo.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: M2
Message-ID: <320A984D.139B@mo.net>
I don't know if it will do any good or not, but I just got the e-mail
address for the new MTV station M2 (you know, the one that's SUPPOSED to
play MUSIC videos, not the crap that's on MTV right now). It's
supposed to be for request and stuff like that, so maybe we can do some
good for some GOOD bands that play MUSIC. Of course, oour cable system
doesn't carry it yet, so it doesn't really affect me directly at this
point, but maybe it will sometime. It's: M2@aol.com, I believe.
Cheers.
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 21:31:21 -0400
From: ai292@freenet.carleton.ca (Gordon McFee)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1746
Message-ID: <199608090131.VAA21297@freenet5.carleton.ca>
> Then King's X came on. I'm sorry, did i pay $11.50 for a concert
>or for a sermen? It was beyond horrible. It was _SO_ bad that I sold all
>6 King's X albums for $8 dollars. I'm happy i got that much. :) I'm now
>on a Kings-X-Sucks mode, so you're just gonna have to deal with it.
Could you elaborate? As someone who's thought about getting some
of their stuff I was wondering what you meant about a "sermon".
>innerlogic@sos.on.ca wrote:
>> Hey man.. i'm from Guelph, Ontario.. I didn't know of many Canadian
>> Jammers.. but I guess I found one...
>
>OTTAWA! :>
No kiddin'.. I think Canadian content is quite high on this
place.. so like Donovan Bailey is like the world's fastest man, like
right, eh? :)
>> The closest thing I've found is.. DT tab books in Steve's music..
>> other than that nothing.. :(
>
>There's a place in Ottawa that has some DT stuff. It's called International Musicland.
Whereabouts is that? I know I got WDADU, LATM and have seen the
Silent Man single at Record Runner.. y'mean there's another fan in Ottawa
to compete with for the imports?
-- "To seek the sacred river Alph, and walk the caves of ice..." - Rush "Ashes and Diamonds,Foe and Friend/We were all equal in the end." -Pink Floyd "The sands of time were eroded by the river of constant change." - Genesis "Others steal your thoughts they're not confined within your mind"-DreamTheater------------------------------
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 96 02:04:45 UT From: "Joey Axe Man" <IBANEZ_MAN@msn.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT, QR, SAV Message-ID: <UPMAIL04.199608090204150954@msn.com>
someone mentioned Dream Theater, Queensryche and savatage doing a tour together as a what if? well that would be ok with me and if i died at the end of that night....so be it...lol
the only topping on that could be, the end of the night when a special guest appearance is announced, steve vai, joe satriani, eric johnson, paul gilbert and billy sheehan to join all three bands in a jam session to be the best on earth, i could go on with musicians but then again ...i am dreaming..............
(but what a dream.....as i load my cd tower with DT, QR, and SAV......)
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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 22:22:11 -0400 (EDT) From: John McCabe <caber1@cris.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Huge mama post! Message-ID: <199608090222.WAA26156@cliff.cris.com>
A G wrote: >Speaking of eMpTyV, does anyone live in a market large enough to get >M2, MTV's second channel? It would be interesting to hear about what the >programming for that channel is. Perhaps they could play music videos. >That would be novel. Oh man...I got this channel for ONE night and it was ONE night to many!!! It was so god awful :P It was like that channel B&B tune into for those horrible videos! Right now though you can only see it if your cable company gives you a preview of it. Or you have a dish(satelite that is). ******* Couple o' people talking about: >>Who is James Murphy? He kicks ass on every tune! >New Testament Guitarist Someone said here awhile ago(about 2-3 months) said that he quit, right? He had his email address! I think... Whoever that was back me! ******* >Message Received Uh...hmmm...that's nice...;) ******* Chris wrote: > I didn't just feel like spewing a load. Hehheh, that's *too* easy to make fun of! ;-) ******* Okay I've a bunch of questions, and requests!! ~Does anyone here have any of the videos for DT songs that aren't on LiT? If so email me please!!! ~Anyone know if JM has done any side projects? Or even tributes for that matter? Or is DT his only musical thing? ~Also does anyone here have KevMo's first demo tape, "Music Meant To Be Heard?" If so email me!! ~Someone posted awhile ago if there was a Awake VHS tape. But he didn't get an anwser so I'm assuming(I know never assume ;)) that there wasn't one :( ! But does anyone know if DT is planning on one with the new CD!?!?!? ~While I'm thinking about that CD I have noticed something...The names of DT CDs going from W => A. I mean it goes...WDADU...LatM...I&A...Awake ..ACoS! So the next CD will be something that begins with "A"!!! :) ~Hey about the prog tape trade...Could one or two people just make an extra tape for just little old me ;D I don't have any lesser known prog band stuff :( I would pay for shipping & handling and cost of the tape! pretty please. :) Just email me if you are thinking about!! ~Also no one really respond to my prog band of the month web page idea. So how about a Ytsejam band of the month idea? It could be about a different jammer's band each month. Since we're all feeling family like! :) Jammer's could check out another jammer's band! Without going thru an endless number of WWW pages...Well like before if ya don't email me I won't to do...So there! ;)
Shit everyone is going to be emailing me ;-)
John
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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 19:46:18 -0700 (PDT) From: "'THE HAND...' R. Ananda" <spod@u.washington.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Kern, jazz, skid row's rush cover Message-ID: <Pine.PTX.3.92a.960808192538.5156A-100000@carson.u.washington.edu>
> From: Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu> > Subject: Rich Kern...
> Someone said: > >It says that Kevin Moore and one RICH KERN got a hold of John Petrucci's > >tape and fucked with it. > > Rich Kern is also listed in the Awake liner notes as having done the > programming on SDV.
That would be me. I wish I could've talked to that guy...yeesh. If/when I find him, I'll let ya know. Perhaps I can buy him a beer and he'll tell me a secret. And yes, D-Man, I still remember your warning...no worries. ---------- > From: Kain <kain@caribe.net> > > Jonathan Case wrote: > > I'm also into some jazz (very limited though) with Dave Weckyl > > as my favorite jazz drummer. Any suggestions on other artists I should > > pursue for some excellent drumming, as well as good music?
> Whoa, Dave Weckel (or is it Weckyl or Weckle?) , my friend has one of
It's Dave Weckl. In the realm of jazz, pick up Coltrane's "A Love Supreme." Elvin Jones is just killer on this. Also try anything with Steve Gadd, like Chick Corea's "The Leprachaun." John McLaughlin's latest disc (cant remember the name) is also wonderful, it features Dennis Chambers. If you want anymore just e-mail me -- I'm kind of a jazz nut.
----- > From: emsGateway@wichita.fn.net > Subject: RR: YTSEJAM digest 1747 > > Message Received >
But did the reaction make contact, invisibly? ------- > >Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 09:14:59 -0400 (EDT) > >From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com> > > >Speaking of Sebastian Bach on the Rush Tribute, Skid Row does a Rush song > > They cover What You're Doing. I 've never heard that version, > but would like too. > If you have it, how is it?
I have this in tape and I dug it out after reading this post. It's pretty cool -- faithful to the original and good Mr. Bach sings in the upper register for this one. The drums are much better than John "lame" Rutsey's were. Worth a few listens.
--Rahul Ananda -- the ubiquitous HAND
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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 22:48:04 -0400 From: JBeck33449@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1749 Message-ID: <960808224803_595295132@emout13.mail.aol.com>
Dear god, can anyone help me:
This is painful for me to say but I have no control over it. I live in one of those little towns in Ks and this music store hasn't got the Rush tribute yet. I can't get it until next week!!!! Could somebody please e-mail me with some sort of a song list to hold me over unitl then
Thanks
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Date: 08 Aug 96 22:53:52 EDT From: Yuji Miyazaki <76262.3207@CompuServe.COM> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1749 Message-ID: <960809025352_76262.3207_GHM104-1@CompuServe.COM>
Devin Townsend now performs in his band strapping young lad... other than that he is a singer and a guitarist, he's producing alot of stuff too... He performs on the Judas Priest tribute also... I7ve heard he's a great guitar player too, in a longago interview with Steve Vai, he said he asked Devin to play for him before his tour for S&R begain <did it happen?>... and then, Devin started to shred "even faster than I could play"... Strange Steve didn't know Devin could play at all till then... <before the tour....>... It impressed Vai alot, it seems, however, no wonder they kinda well apart... Rumours are, though... <in Japanese guitar magazines...>... that Devin and Vai might get together again in the near future... Hmm..
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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 19:59:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Mithrandir <mithrandir@pb.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: RUSH tribute. Message-ID: <199608090259.TAA12061@mindcrime.ax.com>
Well I think I know why RUSH did not want this so called tribute album released. IT SUCKS!!!!!!! The only song that holds some merit is Closer to the Heart done by Fates Warning. Now I am not trying to flame any of the musicians who played on the album, but I think they all decided to jerk off while playing the songs. It would be like DT playing different solos in Metropolis, or something. I have always been a firm believer that RUSH is not a band that takes many liberties, therefore you should not have taken liberties while covering their stuff. I often go and see a RUSH tribute band called Power Windows, and they do the stuff note for note. It is the next best thing to seeing RUSH live. Since you are doing a tribute though I do agree with D-Man, you should not do it exact. My conclusion is to not have done it in the first place. Let's face it RUSH is still here, and hopefully will be for a long time to come. Let me just enjoy RUSH as it was meant to be heard. Flame away if you must, but it will not change my opinions. Elen sila lumenn omentilmo, Mithrandir
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Date: Fri, 09 Aug 1996 13:39:18 +1000 From: cdgroves@postoffice.utas.edu.au (Chris Groves) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Who is James Murphy??? Message-ID: <199608090323.NAA05204@corinna.its.utas.edu.au>
>Who is James Murphy? He kicks ass on every tune!
Ah.... James Murphy is the latest Testament guitarist (who, incidentally recently disbanded. He replaced Glen Alvelais, who replaced Alex Scolnick. James Murphy also used to be a member of Obituary and Death (I think those are the right bands!), and also had his own project called Disincarnate. For more cool James axe-work, check out the Testament disk "Low". To check out James copying Alex in a live situation (not necessarily recommended), check out the "Live At The Fillmore" album.
Five essential albums?? 1. Disco Volante - Mr. Bungle. 2. Angel Dust - Faith No More. 3. Images & Words - Dream Theater. 4. Stain - Living Colour. 5. Joe's Garage - Frank Zappa.
(Most subject to change daily).
Oh, to those discussing great Mr. Bungle/Faith No More covers, check out: Mr. Bungle; Nothing Compares 2 U, The Stroke and It Came From Outer Space, and Faith No More doing Sweet Dream (the old Nestle's theme), Let's Lynch The Landlord (Dead Kennedys), Greenfields, Spanish Eyes, and I Wanna Fuck Myself (G.G. Allen). Also, Faith No More never covered The Final Countdown. A seriously fucked version of it was their intro music on the Angel Dust tour.
Chris Groves. cdgroves@postoffice.sandybay.utas.edu.au
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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 21:07:46 -0400 From: "Frank Benenati" <mojonet@pb.net> To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Working Men! Message-ID: <199608090405.VAA13210@mindcrime.ax.com>
Wow.....Working Men...that's what they should have called it....cause 95% of the participants did their homework.
Anyway...since everyone else did a review...I'll do my part...
Working Man : Sebastian FUCKING Bach!!!! Go dude!!! This guy really knows how to use his lungs...I'm actually hoping for something from the Skid's now!
By-Tor and the Snow Dog: This is the one I never expected in a million years...especially with Labrie singing...
Analog Kid: One of my favorite Rush songs...Jack Russell really sounds different here...It's refreshing to hear him outside of the 'lets rip off Jimmy Page' blues that Mark Kendall of Great White plays.
The Trees: People have been talking about not liking this particular song...or the electric guitar in place of the classical...I like it!!! I really do....I think Baker kicks on this.....You have to remember that a tribute can be identical to the original....or it can be a new spin on in...in this case...it's the best of both worlds...
La Villa Strangiato: Best song on the record....case closed...Especially with Steve Morse playing...
Mission: Great new gen rush redone by Eric Martin!!! Anthem: Thanks for destroying a classic, George Lynch....(someones gotta cut off a few of his fingers....then he'll play a little less)
Jacon's Ladder: <Spooge>
Closer to the heart: Excellent...I liked it..until they bastartized it with 2112....Fates Warning seems to always ruin things for me....
Natural Science: MojoMan tees up a MojoNuke and Swings one right into Devin Townsends mouth (that'll teach you to use that again!!!!) .....other than that....the song kicks!
YYZ: Great....really good....but doesnt touch La Villa....
Red Barchetta: The best of the tight nit songs on the record...Ugh...Labrie....<spooge>
FreeWill: Umm......stay in key dude...
Now that I've had a chance to listen without prejudice....I like and dislike stuff...most importantly though I have to make note of two guys... Billy Sheehan and Mike Portnoy!!!
Those two are the life of this record....It almost makes me wanna fast forward through the non Sheehan stuff so I can listen to the Sheehan stuff....
I mean....GOD!!!!! ....The Sheehan stuff is more interesting that the originals!!!! (Not surprising....Billy can play circles around anyone....(including Lee, Hamm, and Myung))
Anyway.....Great CD....Get it!!! if you havent already!!!
M O J O
-- *************************************** * T H E M O J O M A N * * mojoman@dreamt.org * * mojonet@pb.net * * http://www.pb.net/~mojo * ***************************************
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Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 00:15:32 -0700 From: Jose Luis Ramos <counterp@ctc-mundo.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1747 Message-ID: <199608090715.AAA09356@server.ctc-mundo.net>
A > >Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 23:37:00 -0500 (GMT-0500) >From: ichhi@matrix.mdn.com (Patrick Taylor) >To: ytsejam@ax.com >Subject: Magellan and Aqualung >Message-ID: <199608080437.XAA18295@decker.mdn.com> > >Thought I'd give those who don't know a brief description of Magellan >(there's even some DT content). > >They'rrrrrr Grrrreat! > >Magellan the band is comprised of two brothers, Trent and Wayne Gardner. >Trent does most all of the writing and plays all keys. Wayne plays >guitars. They are augmented sometimes by a bassist and sometimes by a real >drummer. (That's right, they use a drum machine. Don't hold it against >them. How many Pearts and Portnoys do you think there are in the world?) >As far as I know, Magellan is a studio-prog band only, probably will never >tour. I think Trent is a policeman somewhere in California. > >Magellan has 2 albums out: Hour of Restoration (still available as a very >hard to find import) and Impending Ascension. Both are on the Magna Carta >label. > >Hour of Restoration is a good first album, highlighted by a fabulous first >track which is about the history of the Magna Carta document. Fascinating >subject matter! > >Impending Ascension is much better, perhaps even landmark. It includes the >epic Estadium Nationale (about the "disappearances" in Argentina in the >70s), Waterfront Wierdos (all too realistic tale of homelessness w/Jethro >Tull drummer Doane Perry), and Storms and Mutiny, a tribute to their >namesake, explorer Ferdinand Magellan. (It also clocks in around 11 mins >or so.) > >They've also done tracks for 3 Magna Carta Tribute albums: > Yes: Don't Kill The Whale (waaaay better than Yes' version!) > Genesis: Mama (pretty close to the original) > Tull: Aqualung (The way I see it is this: I really like it, but at > the same time I am glad Tull did it the way they did.) > >I'd describe Magellan as: > Rabin-style Yes (vocally), but with Rick Wakeman on keys. > Peart quality lyrics with a historical bent. > Best keyboarding since Wakeman. > Drum machine can be overlooked. It's not that bad. > Proggy! > > >Hope that helps. > > >Patrick Taylor > > > >BTW, Magellan is supposed to have another album out this year, but I think >it's gone the way of the new DT album... >
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Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 00:42:08 -0700 From: Jose Luis Ramos <counterp@ctc-mundo.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1747 Message-ID: <199608090742.AAA09963@server.ctc-mundo.net>
> >Impending Ascension is much better, perhaps even landmark. It includes the >epic Estadium Nationale (about the "disappearances" in Argentina in the >70s), Waterfront Wierdos (all too realistic tale of homelessness w/Jethro >Tull drummer Doane Perry), and Storms and Mutiny, a tribute to their >namesake, explorer Ferdinand Magellan. (It also clocks in around 11 mins >or so.)
Hi Patrick..... Well I Like Magellan a lot, I agree with you about the music, I Think they are great musicians.... BUT.....you make a big big HISTORY mistake here.....
The right title of the first song of "Impendig Ascension" is "Estadium Nacional" wich is a deformation (not a translation) of ESTADIO NACIONAL. The ESTADIO NACIONAL is a football (soccer for U.S) stadium in my city SANTIAGO the capitol of my country CHILE...... The song is about the militar intervention in 1973..... Remember......"Cover Action - Santiago" "Gossens Ministers" and "Allende supporters" refers to SALVADOR ALLENDE GOSSENS the Socialism President of the Government who suffered the militar intervention..... The EStadio Nacional was the jail for many political prisoners......... I was a little boy (3 years old) I can't remember nothing....Many people died... The lyrics from Gardner support the goverment position (I think that they have a "lefty political position" :-)
Well that's all, a correction of the History.... bye JLRC SANTIAGO - CHILE (not argentina, they suffered the same political situation but in 1976, no allende, no gossens, no Estadio Nacional)
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