YTSEJAM Digest 2092
Today's Topics:
1) DT in San Diego??
by Eric Gillingham <egilling@stdntpop.lmu.edu>
2) Leaving and re-entering Birch HIll
by "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
3) jason becker alive??? <fwd>
by Tymoteusz Altman <altman@sfu.ca>
4) old school & Los Straitjackets (NDTC)
by ahs110@psu.edu (Amit Shah)
5) Re: Tourniquet
by dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld)
6) Re: shows after this saturday @ BH
by Craig Moran <bosox1@ix.netcom.com>
7) providence directions
by "Richard A. Bond, Jr." <rickbond@concentric.net>
8) Kevin Madden, BirchHELL
by phreak <illusion@UDel.Edu>
9) Loss of Ytsejams, New Haven, and Providence.
by "Jeremy C. Hallum" <jhallum@bu-ast.bu.edu>
10) YtseHomeland Poll
by dseeger@juno.com (Deborah J. Seeger)
11) kevin's hair
by WildKoba@aol.com
12) ***GARY HOEY autographed guitar for sale!!***(fwd)
by Bigman <martinah@csd.uwm.edu>
13) Toads and Thanks!
by kylania <kylania@sr.radiks.net>
14) Tickets to Providence...
by Allen Karger <akarger@bu.edu>
15) Re: Tonight on the Ytse-News at 6
by Mark Smeets <msmeets@ibm.net>
16) Providence Show, I have questions.
by Jeremy Kube <j-kube@nh.ultranet.com>
17)
by Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
18) Long Islander needing some help
by augustl@lithuania-c.it.earthlink.net (Heath Augustover)
19) DTIFC
by "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@MO.NET>
20) Tourniquet, Vai, Beer for Dolphins, Petrucci Sega Saturn game?
by tallufo@juno.com (Tall UFO Productions)
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Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 17:53:54 -0800
From: Eric Gillingham <egilling@stdntpop.lmu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT in San Diego??
Message-ID: <01535476546445@stdntpop.lmu.edu>
hey...
can anyone there tell me if Dream Theater is or will in the future
be coming to San Diego? I live here and would hate to have to go all the way
up to Los Angeles to see them....although i know it would be worth it....and
also are there any fellow jammers from San Diego??? if so you can mail me at
egilling@stdntpop.lmu.edu thanks....
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Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 21:08:31 -0500 (EST)
From: "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Leaving and re-entering Birch HIll
Message-ID: <199612100208.VAA11222@umbc10.umbc.edu>
Someone mentioned this in the last jam but I wanted to get it
cleared up.
What is the Birch Hills rules for leaving and re-entering the
club? What if I have some cool stuff (big stuff like Images
and Words poster) that I want the band to sign. I'm not gonna
bring it into the show and get it moshed on but I was thinking
that maybe I could run out to my truck and grab it AFTER
the show and bring it back into the club to get the band to sign it?
WOuld that plan work?
On the poster note : Does anyone have a WDADU poster (or ACOS - did
they even make one?) that they would like to sell? It would look
very nice hanging next to my I&W's and Awake posters. Please
e-mail me and we can work something out.
Thanks!
-- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \ / / L. Jason Hartman "And I'll smile and I'll learn to pretend \ \ lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu And I'll never be open again / / And I'll have no more dreams to defend \ \ Univ. Of Maryland, And I'll never be open again " / / Baltimore County - Kevin Moore : Dream Theater \ \ / / "Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot." \ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/------------------------------
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 18:17:23 -0800 (PST) From: Tymoteusz Altman <altman@sfu.ca> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: jason becker alive??? <fwd> Message-ID: <199612100217.SAA09245@fraser>
I emailed the guy who posted to the dream theater newsgroup about talking to Jason's manager, and this is the response i got.
Forwarded message: > From: Randy Canis <700083@fs3.law.missouri.edu> > Subject: Re: jason becker alive??? > > Tim, I'll let Pat (Jason Becker's manager) know. He is ALIVE, no shit. And > he's doing quite well under the circumstances. Please try to get the word > out to whatever mailing list that this is the truth. > As a matter of fact, I sent pictures to Pat so she can show them to Jason so > he can feel like he was there. Eddie's playing was video recorded for > Jason, as well as personal messages from every musician. Furthermore, the > whole show was audio recorded for Jason. > > So, I don't know what else I can tell you. But PLEASE - post the truth. > > Randy Canis > **************************************************************************** > ******** > http://www.vividnet.com/mic/zakkwylde > Zakk sings about Law School on "Between Heaven & Hell" from "Book of Shadows" > "Where I am at times I just cant tell ... I'm lost somewhere between heaven > and hell" > >
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Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 21:37:28 -0500 From: ahs110@psu.edu (Amit Shah) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: old school & Los Straitjackets (NDTC) Message-ID: <199612100238.VAA44548@r02n05.cac.psu.edu>
hey there jammers, i went a little nutty in the bargain bin at my local used CD store today and picked up some old school metal.. the following CD's were $2.50 a piece: Shotgun Messiah: anyone remember these guys? not bad, not incredible either LA Guns: Cocked & Loaded - sounds like the other LA Guns discs David Lee Roth: A Little Ain't Enough - awesome purchase! Jason Becker tastefully wails on here! Killer Dwarfs: Dirty Weapons - anyone remember this band? a couple of power ballads; the rest is aggressive.
I bought a new CD by Los Straitjackets: Viva! they are an instrumental surf band. the music is not really technically proficient, but the album has a very cool sound to it.. a kind of sonic big band vibe.. it's one of the most refreshing albums i've come across this year.. the only downside is that the CD is just 38 minutes long. if your looking for a fresh instrumental fix, check these guys out...
back to studying fo finals.... Amit Shah
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Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 21:44:03 -0500 (EST) From: dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Tourniquet Message-ID: <v01520d04aed235913364@[207.90.117.142]>
>I came across a post inquiring as to the stylistic tendencies >of Tourniquet, in particular, the albums Psycho Surgery and >Pathogenic... . I'd say Pathogenic is a bit more like Believer, >but is very different in that it doesn't have the symphonic >tendencies that Believer dusplays on "Dimensions." I highly >recommend any of their stuff, but would probably start out with >Psycho... and move on to Pathogenic from there. The new album >sounds like it might be some killer stuff, from what I've heard.
Yeah, their 2nd and 3rd albums (Psycho Surgery and P.O.D.) are their most progressive. A lot of classical influences. Like Dale said, it not as much as Believer's classical influences, but with Tourniquet, you can still tell. They're not really and thrash-oriented as Believer (Sanity Obscure and Extraction). They're more of a proggy-speed metal. Vocals soudn a lot like Rage Against the Machinje (at least when Gary sings), and I can't describe an equivalent to how Guy Ritter sounds... Dale, can you???
For Tourniquet, I'd really only "recommend" those two albums mentioned. Their other stuff is good, but not up to snuff, IMO. Their first is great, but the vocals get nerve-racking, and the lyrics seem almost overzealously propagandizing. Psycho and Pathogenic show great instrumentation, time changes, drumming, etc, etc; and the lyrics got A LOT better. Very alegorical (sp?) in nature, relating the medical and spiritual realms in a metaphorical way. Very interesting. Their stuff after Pathogenic is "different." Still good, but not as progressive- and not as powerful, IMO.
Their new stuff in the works sounds cool. They had two new tracks on their greatest hits, and I guess that's the direction of the new LP. It's supposed to be out in the Spring...along with a multitude of other great bands. Ted's been listening to a lot of Carcass, Sepultura, and Dream Theater (he mentoins all those bands in a current interview), so the new album should be back to their earlier stuff. :)
Hey, Dale, did you know that Gary left the band? He's working with Guy Ritter (the ex-vox) in a new band called Echo Hollow.
Later, Dan
---+ +--- Dan Temmesfeld - dantemm@erinet.com / s1133627@cedarville.edu "Home of the Galactic Cowboys Page" http://www.cedarville.edu/student/s1133627/gcowboys.htm ---+ +---
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Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 18:56:18 -0800 From: Craig Moran <bosox1@ix.netcom.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: shows after this saturday @ BH Message-ID: <199612100256.SAA28551@dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com>
a friend of mine said that his brother got them tickets to see DT at the birch hill on december 28th! does anyone else know about this show?
craig Craig
"You wanted the best. You got the best..."
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Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 22:28:29 -0800 From: "Richard A. Bond, Jr." <rickbond@concentric.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: providence directions Message-ID: <32AD030D.75A4@concentric.net>
Could somebody give me directions to The Strand in Providence, RI from I95 in New Hampshire. I believe this is the way I want to come from.
Rick Bond
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Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 22:40:31 -0500 (EST) From: phreak <illusion@UDel.Edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Kevin Madden, BirchHELL Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.961209223931.11062A-100000@copland.udel.edu>
Kevin Madden get in touch I need you to get in touch with me, thanks.
One question, can someone varify that Mike did sing lead on The Killing Hand?
And I guess I won't waste anymore bandwith---what a time to be reading the jam---that's D-man those stories were killer.....later...andy
see you at BirchHell (who thought of that first--I think that was I :)
Andrew Miller The world couldn't be much more grey, ytsejam@Udel.Edu Andy died that day. The world couldn't -or- turn away, Andy died that day. The world andym@dreamt.org could find the words to say "We'll miss you", Andy died that day.
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Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 23:14:58 -0500 (EST) From: "Jeremy C. Hallum" <jhallum@bu-ast.bu.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Loss of Ytsejams, New Haven, and Providence. Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.961209230648.12270A-100000@bu-ast.bu.edu>
I was one who lost two jams, 2085 and 2087. I dunno what caused it. I got them, but they both had absolutely no text in them. Ahhh well, no big loss.
To the guy who didn't see any Jammers at New Haven: You just weren't listening, Skadz and D-Man were yelling at each other a mile-a-minute at the front of the stage after the show, AND there were a couple of us wearing ytse-wear out there, too. Ahh well, For those at Providence, don't forget, meet after the show in FRONT OF THE STAGE! That way people get associate names and faces and all the garbage. I met a couple of people I hadn't met before at the show because of the ytse-advertising. See ya at Prov. I'll be the guy who is wearing the OLLLLLLLLD ytsejam T-shirt with the YTSEJAM written really big across the front.
-jeremy "who is ytsepsyched to see DT twice in one week."
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Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 23:39:59 EST From: dseeger@juno.com (Deborah J. Seeger) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: YtseHomeland Poll Message-ID: <19961209.234140.5063.2.DSeeger@juno.com>
If you all are really interested in a poll I'll be willing to conduct it. I'm under-employed with too much time on my hands. I'll take responses for about a week. BTW, I'm from Milwaukee.
Debbie Seeger DSeeger@juno.com
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Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 23:43:49 -0500 From: WildKoba@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: kevin's hair Message-ID: <961209234348_1588860820@emout05.mail.aol.com>
personally, i wouldn't kick him out of bed if he farted. as a matter of fact, i might encourage him to perform such actions.
but seriously now, hairy or kojakian, we know where it's at- kevmo's ffidh. he can still play rings around some of us attempted keyboardists (and that includes me, too), and even though mr. derek's all cool, too...(wait- that's another thread- shit!).
and again, to all you little cocksuckers that got to go see them, fuck you all, and to the prepubescents trying to get a little nookie at the birch........fuck it. if you can't sneak in- force your way in!
speaking of kevin moore, i once again open the doors to my special offer of a km-approved (my thanks to airdance wherever she may be) transcription of "wait for sleep" done by none other than your favorite ytse-goon. you read correctly. km reviewed my copy, suggested some alterations, and said he liked it. and i have it. wouldn't you? email me at <bd91014@binghamton.edu> and we'll talk some more.
**************************************************************** david kobayashi wildkoba@aol.com dkoba8375@aol.com
"my yellow in this case is not so mellow, in fact, i'm trying to say it's frightened like me. and all of these emotions of mine keep holding me from giving my life to a rainbow like you...." -j. hendrix
"through nature's inflexible grace, i'm learning to live." - j. myung ****************************************************************
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Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 23:04:42 -0600 (CST) From: Bigman <martinah@csd.uwm.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: ***GARY HOEY autographed guitar for sale!!***(fwd) Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.961209230132.2061A-100000@alpha2.csd.uwm.edu>
Hey all, Gary Hoey fans, take a look at this. If you're interested, make sure you write Josh at asmodeus@hotmail.com, and NOT the jam.
BUH-bye, DaBigman
---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: 5 Dec 1996 23:37:17 -0000 From: Joshua Wade <asmodeus@hotmail.com> Subject: Gary Hoey
Hello, My name is Joshua. I have seen your Gary Hoey page. I wanted to know if you or anyone you know would like to buy an acoustic guitar signed by Gary Hoey at the KSJO Rock Shop on 12-4-96. If you can help with my search I would be in your debt. I need the money to save for a Parker Fly Deluxe guitar. You could email me at Asmodeus@hotmail.com
Thank you
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Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 23:02:32 -0600 (CST) From: kylania <kylania@sr.radiks.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Toads and Thanks! Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.961209225121.29337A-100000@sr.radiks.net>
Hi all!!
Just finished wading through all my mail and thought I'd write about the Toad's show... What a first concert! My god, DT roq!!!! I missed the shows last year and wasn't about to miss this years show. I was stunned. The new stuff was great (Peruvian Skies sounds a bit like "Bleeding Me" by 'tallica i think.. and some other song) and the old stuff was incredible! KILLING HAND! 'nuff said! :) As a few of you found out, I was totally insane with this trip. First I flew to Hartford from Omaha. Took a taxi into the city, waited 2 hours for a bus. Got to New Haven just before five. Grabbed some food and waited 3 and a half hours for the doors to open. (I was one of the first few in, whoo hoo!!) Thank god they finally turned on the heat lamp! After the show soem new friends (see later) drove me back to Hartford and I spent Saturday sleeping :P Sunday i spent 9 hours at the airport waiting for my plane, but they were kind enough to upgrade me to First Class!! :) Many thanks to all those who helped me get there, get back and all those I met. Rob, Don, Steve, Mike, and Damon: Thanks for the friendship, ear plugs, and the way home!! Sorry Saturday was so damn snowy! :( Rachel: great to see you again, surprised to see me that far from home? :) Skadz and the rest of the Ytsejammers: Sorry I didn't have much time to talk! Maybe next show! Lates all,
Dave
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Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 00:14:23 -0500 (EST) From: Allen Karger <akarger@bu.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Tickets to Providence... Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9612100036.A64500-0100000@acs2.bu.edu>
Hey there everybody, My buddy (through e-mail, at least) Ed Wilk and I have two tickets to the Providence DT show that we need to get rid of. I'm pretty sure that the show isn't sold out yet, but I hope that if any of you are planning on getting tickets, you will ask me first. I just want the Strawberry's ticket price of $13.50 each. I'm in Boston so it would be easiest if I can find someone around here that wants them. E-mail, please. Adios, Allen K. akarger@bu.edu
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Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 22:28:59 PST From: Mark Smeets <msmeets@ibm.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Tonight on the Ytse-News at 6 Message-ID: <199612100533.FAA161214@smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net>
** Reply to note from ytsejam@ax.com 12/09/96 5:50pm -0800
>To all that were on IRC just as madsman left... > ><Stranger0>"tonight on the 6pm news, Madsman was arrested this >earlier after trying to skin and eat his dog, foo foo" ><ryan> haha ><Stranger0>this one is going on the jam ><Stranger0>brb ><Pellaz> "trying"? He was therefore a Foo Fighter
--You bastards! The dog's name is EMMA! Not FOO FOO!!!!
ok..in that case
>To all that were on IRC just as madsman left... > ><Stranger0>"tonight on the 6pm news, Madsman was arrested this >earlier after trying to skin and eat his dog, EMMA! ><ryan> haha ><Stranger0>this one is going on the jam ><Stranger0>brb ><Pellaz> "trying"? He went down biting on a milkbone
Mark/Stranger0
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\| I stand at the promised land with Fire In my Eyes! WASP-The Crimson Idol msmeets@ibm.net or msmeets@smartt.com http://www.smartt.com/~jsmeets/stranger/INDEX.HTM
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Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 00:40:48 -0500 (EST) From: Jeremy Kube <j-kube@nh.ultranet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Providence Show, I have questions. Message-ID: <199612100540.AAA10728@hammurabi.nh.ultra.net>
Hey jammers, A couple of things:
1. I heard that the show was all ages? Is that true? Not that I'm worried, it's just that I have someone in my "group" that is only 16. If someone could answer this question I would be extremely extatic. 2. I heard a rumor of 2 opening acts? Is that true? I would love to know. Tell me. 3. I prefer spoilers. Does anyone have a setlist for the Poukeepsie show? 4. Is there a pre-show gathering? What time should I be there? 5. Is the show definately sold-out or are there tickets at the door? I have a friend that is very interested in going but can't get a ticket through NEXT. I was wondering if someone could SUPER-Express one to me? If that person can please e mail me @ j-kube@nh.ultranet.com or e mail the person who needs the ticket direct @ doland@rpi.edu !!!!!!!!!!!
See you there man!!!! Jammers: Rick Tony Jeremy John
PS: If you have the ticket I will pay all shipping fees, plus of course price of the ticket. (up to $17.25) I will find some way of sending you the money right away. J
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Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 23:43:46 -0600 From: Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Message-ID: <2.2.32.19961210054346.006e4b40@enteract.com>
>From: matt rosin <msr7146@unix.tamu.edu> >Subject: the great hair-cut controversy
>musical talent is not contingent upon hair style or length, and hair length >does not determine musical talent. some of you need to be a little less >shallow about stupid things like a hair-cut.
I disagree. How can you possibly play your musical instrument with short hair? I am only now beginning to be able to shred like John Petrucci now that my hair is getting long. I think hair is important to any musician's repertoire.
-Barfu Ptacek
:P
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Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 03:03:49 -0500 From: augustl@lithuania-c.it.earthlink.net (Heath Augustover) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Long Islander needing some help Message-ID: <v01510100aed2c8fb2680@[153.35.27.59]>
Hey guys, what's up? I just want to see if anyone here in the NYC/Long Island area can either drive me to Birch Hill or would need a lift there. I don't feel like making a trip like this by myself from Long Island to NJ, considering that I'm 19 and have never driven that far before in my life by myself, and think it would be real cool if someone wanted to come along with me or can drive me around...REply ASAP to me if anyone wants to come along or can drive me.
Thanks!
Heath Augustover
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Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 02:19:07 +0000 From: "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@MO.NET> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DTIFC Message-ID: <199612100816.CAA06259@Walden.MO.NET>
Yeah, I sent my check in a couple (few?) weeks ago (don't know if the check cleared yet), but haven't gotten anything yet. I am anxious, but I am/was expecting it to take a little while anyway, so I just hope I got it in on time for the surprise. Remember, if anyone wants to go see I Mother Earth this Wednesday, in St. Louis, let me know and we'll hook up. Cheers.
Dale R. Newberry http://walden.mo.net/~mjnewb/dood.html
"I speak jive." -Barbara Billingsley
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Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 04:54:33 EST From: tallufo@juno.com (Tall UFO Productions) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Tourniquet, Vai, Beer for Dolphins, Petrucci Sega Saturn game? Message-ID: <19961210.015511.10406.0.tallufo@juno.com>
First of all, I HATE ALL OF YOU WHO GET TO SEE DT AND I DON'T!!!!!!! Sorry, just had to vent for a second....I don't really hate you...just envy you all to hell.
It's also good to see some other people that are into Tourniquet. I thought they were about the least known prog metal band in the world. Well...perhaps they are. They're totally killer, though, IMO. For that person who was wondering which album to buy, I'd go with Pathogenic, because that album just soars above Psycho Surgery.
I have a question...did anyone else who has seen Vai on his recent tour find the show tremendously inspirational? I mean...I'm a drummer, and I found this show inspirational for two reasons. 1) Mike Maggini kicks ass. There's no other way to put it. Did he do that four-way independence thing during his solo at the show everyone else was at? When I saw him solo, he did a thing where with his left foot, he was playing two, his right foot playing three, his left hand playing five, and his right hand playing seven, all with matching 1's. Totally amazing. 2) Steve is so good at guitar, it makes me want to practice 12 hours a day every day at drums to get to that level. Too bad I'm so busy.... On a similar note, did anyone get Mike Keneally's solo album? If not, you should have. I haven't seen it in any record stores. But, if anyone's interested in picking it up, hit this address: http://www.moosenet.com/keneally
Now...what's the deal with this Petrucci video game? Does this mean, being the die-hard fan that I am, that I now have to go out and buy a Sega Saturn just to own this game and appreciate it for all its worth? <sigh..> Sounds good. I was thinking about getting a new video game system anyways.
And, since someone asked everyone's ages, I'm 19.
-Nate
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