YTSEJAM Digest 2112
Today's Topics:
1) Re: keyboards
by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
2) Re: NEIL!
by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
3) The Solar Federation goes down tonight!!!
by RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
4) Heir of Pointlessness
by Ben Laussade <laussade@sprynet.com>
5) jam #2112?
by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2107
by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
7) It's the epitamy of indulgence...right here
by Phillip <pkish@sprynet.com>
8) smile dammit
by "Andrew Miller" <subtlerage@avalon.net>
9) CDs
by nigelb@thehub.com.au (Nigel Bridgeman)
10) Birch Hill
by Heather Powers <ladydragon@serbia-c.it.earthlink.net>
11) Re: smile dammit
by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
12) Birch Hill Sucks But not as bad as u say
by Heather Powers <ladydragon@serbia-c.it.earthlink.net>
13) Birch Hill from the blind's pont of view
by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
14) RE: YTSEJAM digest 2106
by "SchuBert" <H.M.Peeters@stud.tue.nl>
15) Background vocals
by Coop42@aol.com
16) a show
by saveur <saveur@cais.cais.com>
17) no surrounded
by "Jan-Michael Souter" <jmichael@airmail.net>
18) DT-notation
by Oeyvind Bratland <Oeyvind.Bratland@idt.ntnu.no>
19) Ivanhoe
by "Jan-Michael Souter" <jmichael@airmail.net>
20) BH
by John Mastin <johnny@psa.pencom.com>
21) Prolific composer
by Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
22) Re: moody blues is prog? (and other stuff)
by William T Bajzek <wb2a+@andrew.cmu.edu>
23) oops
by William T Bajzek <wb2a+@andrew.cmu.edu>
24) I wanna be in 2112
by Jason Breitweg <jbreitwe@hep.physics.wisc.edu>
25) Loud?
by Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 96 4:01:43 EST
From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: keyboards
Message-ID: <9612150901.AA06144@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
yeah, but there is such a thing as rediscovery. Hopefully, one day, somebody
will rediscover true musical ability and we can stop this mindless top 40
alternative stuff. Let's think. Can we honestly say that there are major
stars of the 90s? Pearl Jam, and STP, maybe, but if the music changes
tomorrow, will these guys last? Will they be able to adapt? Probably not. So,
where are the long-term careers? Record companies don't care about long term.
They want their money now. Screw long term. This is why we have the crap we
have now. There is no long term anymore. The days of the rock star suddenly
are dead. Unless things change, we will see more artist turnover than ever in
rock's brief history. Let's stop the madness. Learn to play your instrument
and screw the image already.
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 96 4:05:58 EST
From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: NEIL!
Message-ID: <9612150905.AA04590@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
wow. Is this a consensus. The jam was better when I was away? ouch. That
hurt. I've been told some shitty things in my time, but that one stung. Slap
me in the face a little harder, why don't ya. You haven't knocked out all my
teeth yet!
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 03:05:57 -0600
From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: The Solar Federation goes down tonight!!!
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19961215090557.00756060@mail.inlink.com>
i cant believe its already jam #2112... from all the times months and months
ago when the talk of this day, and even long ago when itchy's post about
future jam dates was there, i still never knew it'd come and pass so soon...
so much happens here, its such a cool place... a lot of what i do is in
ricochet to this place.. hell, most of the presents i bought this year were
for jammers! its one of the coolest environments to experience, stuff you
wont find in face to face conversations with people.. a totally new world
and mindframe, and a very cool one at that. i'll keep it short and sweet...
Keep ROCKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
~Rip
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 01:10:13 -0800
From: Ben Laussade <laussade@sprynet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Heir of Pointlessness
Message-ID: <199612150910.BAA25164@m5.sprynet.com>
HAHAHAHAH! I HAVE POSTED IN JAM 2112! I MUST BE COOL!
Ben Laussade
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 04:22:48 -0500 (EST)
From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
To: Yitz-see-jam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: jam #2112?
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.91.961215042228.26492A-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
.i have assumed control.
.i have assumed control.
.i have assumed control.
:)
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"..666 is no longer alone.
he's getting out the marrow in your backbone,
and the seven trumpets blowing sweet rock and roll
gonna blow right down inside your soul.
pythagoras with the looking-glass, reflect the full moon.
in blood, he's writing the lyrics to a brand new tune.."
* * * * * * * * * *
mike ostrich email: syrinx@dreamt.org / syrinx@astro.ocis.temple.edu
(c) 1996 happy fun ball, inc. all rights reserved.
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 96 4:28:31 EST
From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2107
Message-ID: <9612150928.AA27987@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
OK, OK, OK.
On this whole Richie Sambora thing (spelling), yeah, I've never heard his
solo stuff. I am sorry, I am going by the things I heard in Bonjovi, which to
me just sounded like everybody else. To me, he was a copycat guitarist. I was
never really aware of his solo work. I take it back.
could it be? I am making enemies? OK, I have fallen. I'm beaten. I've done
wrong. I used to be so loved. I thought I was cool. Asshole? No, ask most
people who know me for longer than a few months. Ask the guys I talk to on
IRC. I think they'll aruge that asshole comment, or will they? Hey, so I
slipped. so I lost my cool for a minute. doesn't everybody have their weak
moments? I just happen to be the dick of the month. I am not going to bore
the Jam with what my life has become. But hey, if you all want me to
disappear again that badly, that can be arranged.
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 03:22:39 +0000
From: Phillip <pkish@sprynet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: It's the epitamy of indulgence...right here
Message-ID: <32B36EFF.2B64@sprynet.com>
HI everyone!!
I just got 2111 in and felt I should make the effort for 2112 since
everyone's made such a big deal and such.
Sorry for the totally useless post...
later
Phillip
cool cd of the day: Conception "Parallel Minds"
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 03:35:41 +0000
From: "Andrew Miller" <subtlerage@avalon.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: smile dammit
Message-ID: <199612150935.JAA10085@avalon.net>
> YOU JUST CANT COMPARE THE INSTRUMENTS, THEY SERVE FOR DIFFERENT THINGS...
hi. there's this cute little key on your keyboard that has "caps
lock" on it. it's located to the left... there ya go. try using it.
about the whole keyboard/guitar thing... if you're uptight about
getting respect, you might as well quit. music isn't about respect,
it's about doing what you love. but if you think, for example, that
keyboards are overshadowed, then do something about it; start a band
that emphasizes the keys more. but to be honest, i've been a
keyboard player all my life and the relatively minimal popularity of
them in rock music never bothered me. i can't understand why it
would bother anyone else.
i haven't posted for a while, and i'm sorry if this post seems a tad
negative, but there's just been alot of arguements on the jam lately
that, if you really think about it in the grand scheme of life,
really aren't all that important. when you're laying on your death
bed, i imagine the last thing that'll enter your mind is that one
thread on the jam... anyway, i'd just like to see this place
lighten up a bit.
what i'm trying to say is... everyone smile dammit! :-)
-Andrew
Andrew Miller - keyboardist/vocalist - subtlerage
http://www.avalon.net/~subtlerage - subtlerage@avalon.net
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 19:34:03 +1000
From: nigelb@thehub.com.au (Nigel Bridgeman)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: CDs
Message-ID: <199612150934.TAA23130@smople.thehub.com.au>
Got some cds on Thursday, pretty dang good...
Including my first Fates Warning cd!
Bout bloody time, too...
And TSO, very cool...
Well, that's about all...
Did i make 2112????
Spiff
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 02:59:19 -0800
From: Heather Powers <ladydragon@serbia-c.it.earthlink.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Birch Hill
Message-ID: <BMSMTP8506471380ladydragon@mail.earthlink.net>
Hiya...I am hoping for the first jam from Birch Hill. Although I am strange,
this is what I have noticed:
1. Whenever James reaches for a high screach, he touches his tongue outside of
the front of his mouth.
2. Derek should stop tripping over his stool. (it's a joke, I know your
Snapple was much more important..............and Quazel's breasts!)
3. Who the fuck cares?
Lady Dragon
PS For those of you that went to the WRONG TGIF, it's not my fault!!! At
least I tried!!! I did this under protest. I love you
all............um.....we had a table didn't we?
click, click, click, chunk, gobble, gobble, ouch!
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 96 4:55:02 EST
From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: smile dammit
Message-ID: <9612150955.AA08848@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
Subtlrage, you, my friend, are right, of course. I don't know why I am
suddenly worried about being respected. I should go back to not giving a shit
like I used to. Maybe that's what having a girlfriend has done to me. :)
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 04:50:49 -0800
From: Heather Powers <ladydragon@serbia-c.it.earthlink.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Birch Hill Sucks But not as bad as u say
Message-ID: <BMSMTP8506538600ladydragon@mail.earthlink.net>
Firstly....I started at the furthest point from the stage...IE on the back
ledge...
Half way thru the set I decided to try for the front...thanx to Quazel( Who
Mr.Portnoy seems to love) I was front and center for the rest of the show..
If You weren't...don't blame me..I said TGIF's south of BH...I said look for
really red hair....funny...everyone who did....met everyone :P
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 96 5:03:57 EST
From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Birch Hill from the blind's pont of view
Message-ID: <9612151003.AA07669@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
In a word, kick ass.
The Derek interview will be sent to the jam when I have an opportunity to
edit it down. Got to meet MP and JL as well. SOrry I missed JM and JP, but
they threw us out. The BH people were kind of rude, don't you think? Also,
glad to have finally met Wisha, Quazel, one of the Andrews, Ryan, and Big
Swifte. Hope I didn't miss anybody. Wish I could've talked to everybody, even
the DT guys, longer. And Derek still owes me a tour of his keyboard rig,
although I think I was the last thing on his mind tonight. My impression is
that most of DT really didn't care too much that I was on the radio, although
James asked my name when I told him. Then again, they owe me nothing, and I
am nothing specail, just because I play their music on a university radio
station.
The new material is awesome. Lines in the Sand especially, which i found
out is Derek's favorite DT song. Take away my pain is very emotional, and
anybody who disses that will have to answer to me. (Yes, I am on a crusade to
piss every jammer off tonight). The old stuff was cool. I liked everything,
nothing disappointed me, although i wanted to hear Derek more, he got a bit
burried. Even with earplugs in, I am deaf, so now you can call me Tommy,
because I can't talk very well, either. Multiple handicaps suck. BTW,
Metropolis was the most awesome song in existence tonight. And I liked all
the Rush they played at the end of the show. The open act was cool, and being
in radio, I have their CD. The place was too crowded, and the pushing was
kind of nuts. I wonder if anybody heard me scream Please don't go. I wonder
if anybody cared. I heard some of you. Skadz, you bum, you didn't introduce
yourself. I know you had to have seen me.
And the asshole who kept yelling out, "Fuck Kevin more" will die if I ever
get my hands on him. Yeah, I think Derek might be a little bitter about being
compared to KM, but in the same respect, we can't discount KM's contribution
to DT. I defend both guys equally. Deek is cool, KM is cool and if you have a
problem, step up so I can put my can up your anal orephus.
anybody know what James was laughing at all night?
and I realize that I actually can sing tonight, even though i have no voice
left from screaming between songs and trying to match James's high notes. I
hit them well enough, but I don't know how they sounded tonally, and I did
some temporary damage to myself. Oh well, I am now going to go to bed.
Pleasant dreams all, and don't hate me too much. DT rules forever.
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 12:02:45 +0100 (MET)
From: "SchuBert" <H.M.Peeters@stud.tue.nl>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 2106
Message-ID: <43367.H.M.Peeters@stud.tue.nl>
> You're all misunderstanding my original post.
Got us into a great thread, though!
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 06:22:13 -0500
From: Coop42@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Background vocals
Message-ID: <961215062211_641079693@emout15.mail.aol.com>
Hi there!
Several people who were lucky enough to hear some of the new songs mentioned
that JP and MP now sing a few background vocals. I thought this was really
great news *until* I heard the guys' 'interpretation' of Silent Night at the
end of the X-Mas cd... :-)
Take Care!
Andreas Berger
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 06:51:52 -0500
From: saveur <saveur@cais.cais.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: a show
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19961215065150.006d212c@cais.cais.com>
i went to a show last nite. some band called Dream Theater. met some kool
ppl. met some really unkool ppl. the band kicked major ass. full trip
review after i get some sleep.
john
j . c h r i s t i a n s a v e u r @ c a i s . c o m
e
n
s h t t p : / / w w w . c a i s . n e t / j j e n s /
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 07:33:47 -0600
From: "Jan-Michael Souter" <jmichael@airmail.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: no surrounded
Message-ID: <m0vZGm1-000FiVE@mail.airmail.net>
>From: Andrew Rittner
>
>Hi! I'm heading out to the Providence show tonight, with a whole carload
>of people. One of them told me today, and I quote: "If DT doesn't play
>Surrounded, there will be blood on the walls". Well, anyway, I have erased
> all the previous 'Jams with the set lists in them. Could someone let me
>know if they're playing Surrounded? I don't remember hearing about it,
>so there will probably be blood on the walls...
>Ah well, what's a concert without some bloodshed?
Well Andrew, looks like there will either be some bloodshed, or it will
be 'put up or shut up' time for your friend(s). haha
Surrounded isn't on the setlist. Hey let us know how it went !
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 14:45:46 +0100 (MET)
From: Oeyvind Bratland <Oeyvind.Bratland@idt.ntnu.no>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT-notation
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.961215144334.8477A-100000@vier.idt.unit.no>
I am looking for keyboard-notation (sheets, dunno what you call it :-) for
the DT albums Awake and IAW. Can anyone help me?
-=D8yvind Bratland
Norwegian University of Technology and Science (NUTS :-)
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 07:42:01 -0600
From: "Jan-Michael Souter" <jmichael@airmail.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Ivanhoe
Message-ID: <m0vZGtz-000FjyE@mail.airmail.net>
Just a quick note about Ivanhoe. I recently traded a DT cd bootleg of mine
for an Ivanhoe cd. I am very pleased with Ivanhoe and here is my take on
it. In MY opinion, if you take Images & Words and Awake, and stick them in
a blender and mix them together, you have Ivanhoe. With a little edge on
Awake since Ivanhoe's guitars are very crunchy yet the whole band is very
melodic. Vocals are very good as well.
So if you folks who haven't heard Ivanhoe like I&W and Awake, you can't go
wrong with this cd!
JM
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 08:36:03 -0600 (CST)
From: John Mastin <johnny@psa.pencom.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: BH
Message-ID: <199612151436.IAA00049@psa.pencom.com>
Wow. The show kicked my worthless butt. :) The whole band was awesome and I
think this was the best I have ever heard James' voice. DT went on early and
played their set with time to spare.
Jammers: I saw a couple of you (Pellaz, Syrinx, Wisha, Augie) while standing in
line outside. I yelled to you but I guess you didn't hear me (or were ignoring
me. :D )
Birch Hill: Or should I call it Birch Chill. Now I know how they got everyone
crammed in there this time without the fire marshall going ballistic. They
opened the "outdoor patio". In December. Come on, BH, did'ja have to leave BOTH
doors open? Again, we were in there like sardines. It is nice to see DT really
pack a place though... :)
I got my fix for '96.
Johnny Motown
______________
John Mastin, Jr. johnny@pencom.com
Pencom Systems Administration
"The best way to live life is to REALIZE that you're living it."
-Mike Bahr
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 09:44:27 -0500 (EST)
From: Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Prolific composer
Message-ID: <199612151444.JAA21227@newman.cris.com>
>>you need to smell the musical coffee and perk-o-late.
>Ahhh... . Musical coffee. One of my favourite flavours. I think
>I'll go brew me a pot right now. of course, is it okay to brew
>musical coffee in a regular drip maker?
Musical coffee....that brings to mind J.S. Bach's "Coffee Cantata". So
*that's* how he wrote so much music! I just wish all the coffee I drink got
me to do more schoolwork. What works for some, doesn't work for everyone.
Uh-oh, is this a theme? ;-)
Rick
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 09:53:31 -0500 (EST)
From: William T Bajzek <wb2a+@andrew.cmu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: moody blues is prog? (and other stuff)
Message-ID: <0mh13f200YUg02HWM0@andrew.cmu.edu>
i saw the boxed set.
i can't believe you, man... yes and elp were underrepresented, and
they wasted space on bands you've never heard of? why the hell would
you want ot buy something like that to get stuff you've either already
got or can get easily? that box set rules, it has *tons* of unheard of
stuff. and i bet you a lot of it is damn good, too
i think i'll add that to my christmas list
williambajzek|wb2a@andrew.cmu.edu|http://phoebe.dws.acs.cmu.edu/~wb2a/
twobirdsonestoneonechanceisthrowndon'tmakemistakestwothievesstrungupon
eknifeonecuttwodoorsoneshutonefightonewayoneroadtotakewestandandwaitfr
omcooltowarmfromdusk'tildawnfromfluxtoformkneelingontheroadtograceland
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 09:54:59 -0500 (EST)
From: William T Bajzek <wb2a+@andrew.cmu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: oops
Message-ID: <0mh153200YUg02HWk0@andrew.cmu.edu>
forgot the other stuff part of that post
a christmas cd from dt? how come you guys are getting it? how can i
get one? do i have to hate you for the rest of my life now?
williambajzek|wb2a@andrew.cmu.edu|http://phoebe.dws.acs.cmu.edu/~wb2a/
twobirdsonestoneonechanceisthrowndon'tmakemistakestwothievesstrungupon
eknifeonecuttwodoorsoneshutonefightonewayoneroadtotakewestandandwaitfr
omcooltowarmfromdusk'tildawnfromfluxtoformkneelingontheroadtograceland
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 09:27:06 -0600
From: Jason Breitweg <jbreitwe@hep.physics.wisc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: I wanna be in 2112
Message-ID: <199612151528.HAA15605@pawn.ax.com>
Providence rocked, but the only reason I sent this is so I can be in
Ytsejam #2112. I hope it worked. Later.....
Jason
-- Jason Breitweg --> jbreitwe@hep.physics.wisc.edu, breitweg@amzeus.desy.de http://lobelia.physics.wisc.edu/jbreitwe, http://www-zeus.desy.de/~breitweg "The Gods Made Heavy Metal And It's Never Gonna Die!" - MANOWAR------------------------------
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 11:36:14 -0500 From: Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Loud? Message-ID: <2.2.32.19961215163614.00675618@ici.net>
>I've said it a billion times and I'll say it again, get some damn earplugs. >People worry about wearing them, think that if they're not manly or >something if they do, but that's just plain stupid. I had those squishy ones >in at this show, and with the exception of the bass drum slamming my chest, >the sound was great. I could actually HEAR everything clearly, even the >words to the songs.
I'd have to personally disagree in this case. I wear earplugs regularly to shows, and I was wearing them at the beginning of this one. About 4 songs in, I took them out because the high end (mostly JP's lead stuff) was lost in a muddle. The difference was striking. Frankly, I just decided that the loudness (and it *was* a little too loud) was something I'd just have to deal with if I wanted to be able to hear everything clearly.
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>Has anyone thought to ask the guys what song they think would be the first >single from the new CD ? That'd be interesting to hear what they would >like to be the single at this point.
I'd have to guess that they'd want to actually *record* some of the material before they worry about those kind of decisions. Of course, I could be wrong. :)
-----
And maybe I'll get on #2112...or not.
________Pat Sullivan__________________________________ E-mail: psull@ici.net WWW: http://www.ici.net/cust_pages/psull/psull.html IRC: DDictator NP: Trans-Siberian Orchestra - "Christmas Eve...."
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