YTSEJAM Digest 2115
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Sherinian, Portnoy
by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2112
by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
3) Re: earpluggs on Ivanhoe..?
by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
4) Re: Jap PPV vid, potty mouth DT?, and Damon
by Ytse-Kurt <calfaro@caribe.net>
5) Liner notes and I&W
by "LRW" <sir@micron.net>
6) what's on the Xmas CD...
by dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld)
7) RARE DT VINYL FOR SALE!!!
by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@infinite.wezl.org>
8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2113
by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
9) Re: Jap PPV vid, potty mouth DT?, and Damon
by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
10) backup vox
by Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
11) AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!
by vanzin@dks.com.br
12) Re: Sherinian, Portnoy
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2114
by gsrockr@en.com (George Sumschidt)
14) TSO Sound Samples
by Sava Web <savaweb@winternet.com>
15) Pothead at the Birch Hill show
by "Fission Chicken" <danbenj@eden.rutgers.edu>
16) re: keys and penises
by William T Bajzek <wb2a+@andrew.cmu.edu>
17) WOOHOO!
by Brian <DreamNDay@dreamt.org>
18) Re: TSO, is there really a TSO???
by COOPSAINT@aol.com
19) In Regards to the Keys vs. Guitars Argument
by Ben Laussade <laussade@sprynet.com>
20) help.
by Drummnstan@aol.com
21) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2114
by William T Bajzek <wb2a+@andrew.cmu.edu>
22) Birch Hill and Bootleg
by HowWee@aol.com
23) stan
by HowWee@aol.com
24) BH boot
by Drummnstan@aol.com
25) Providence...a good one.
by Jeremy Kube <j-kube@nh.ultranet.com>
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 96 18:59:59 EST
From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Sherinian, Portnoy
Message-ID: <9612160000.AA09095@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
Didn't somebody post here not too long ago that Mapex is made by Tama or vice
versa. I think he's back with Tama again, but what do I know?
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 96 19:01:59 EST
From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2112
Message-ID: <9612160001.AA02327@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
they played it on the P.A. DT did not cover Rush at all, they just played
Chronicles at the end of disk 2 or something. But at the end of the encore,
DT kicked into Damage INC. and was there another Metalica song in there, too?
pretty cool. MP must've started that.
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 96 19:04:09 EST
From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: earpluggs on Ivanhoe..?
Message-ID: <9612160004.AA22373@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
OK. I bought those ear filters for about 20 bucks in a music store, and
normally they work wonderfully, but they have this hatred for DT concerts. I
was not even close to the stage at all, and my left ear rings like the
Liberty Bell. I had the plugs in. Maybe I should get better plugs? What do
you guys think. They're not the squishy hunting/shooting foam plugs, they are
meant to filter out loud noises, I bought them in a music store. They should
be good and they usually are, except at DT concerts. Hey, guys, turn the
music down just a little, please next year.
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 19:57:37 -0500
From: Ytse-Kurt <calfaro@caribe.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Jap PPV vid, potty mouth DT?, and Damon
Message-ID: <32B49E80.363F@caribe.net>
LRW wrote:
>
> hey everyone. Excuse my ignorance, but does anybody know which tragedy it
> was that called for the 15 seconds of silence? That vid rocks.
>
It was because of the Kobe earthquake..which had happened like days
before i think..and it killed a lot of people..
>
--
Look around...hear the sounds...
Cherish your life,while you're still around...
<Dream Theater: A Change Of Seasons>
WoWoW! WoWoW! WoWoW! -Mike Portnoy
mailto:calfaro@Caribe.net
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 17:00:27 -0700
From: "LRW" <sir@micron.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Liner notes and I&W
Message-ID: <199612160003.RAA17175@snowden.micron.net>
Can any of you helpful jammers tell me where I might find the liner notes
to Antiquities and/or Dream Out Loud? Also a setlist or info on the Japan
ppv vid? Fernando just traded me these and I would like to have any and all
info about them that I can.
I also forgot in my post about the Christmas CD to mention that the latest
issue of I&W is extremely well done and very informative. I felt that
necessary since no one has mentioned it yet due to the excitement about the
awesome DT CD. Keep 'em coming!!!
woot
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 19:09:04 -0500 (EST)
From: dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: what's on the Xmas CD...
Message-ID: <v01520d00aed9fd0e715c@[207.90.117.70]>
-an opening message from the guys (minus James)
-Red Hill Mining Town (orig. U2)
-Tears (Rush)
-Damage Inc (Metallica)
-Oh Holy Night (with James on vocals)
***awesome!! great sound quality from soundcheck***
-closing message from the guys
Dan
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Dan Temmesfeld - dantemm@erinet.com / s1133627@cedarville.edu
"Home of the Galactic Cowboys Page"
http://www.cedarville.edu/student/s1133627/gcowboys.htm
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 19:12:21 -0500 (EST)
From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@infinite.wezl.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: RARE DT VINYL FOR SALE!!!
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.91.961215190304.26401E-100000@infinite.wezl.org>
Here's the scoop...I'm Way hard up for cash right now and could use some
extra $$$ So...I have the following for sale!!!
1 Actual Vinyl record of the old show METAL SHOP featuring
DREAM THEATER "Pull Me Under" as one of the weeks most valuable Metal!!!
If I recall correctly it was #3 most valuable...The show is no longer in
existance, and the actual records used for airplay are damn near exstinct!
So BEST OFFER GETS THIS ONE!!!
Comes with NO scratches, actual time sheet/playlist of the show, and all
the good stuff like that (including a few army commercials).
ONLY 1 available so start sending in those bids!!! A MUST for Any DT
Collector!
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 96 19:18:02 EST
From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2113
Message-ID: <9612160018.AA03102@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
shit. I just realized. I missed all the fun. In my desire to meet the band
and throw my radio credentials around, which nobody at the club cared about
anyway, I missed meeting ytsejammers and having fun, again. The first year,
last year, I could blame my friend for making me miss the get together last
year, but this year. Oh well, I could blame Derek, but that's not cool, since
he did give me an interview. Oh well. Maybe next year, or will you guys find
some way to avoid me again?
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 96 19:22:25 EST
From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Jap PPV vid, potty mouth DT?, and Damon
Message-ID: <9612160022.AA21200@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
No, for the record, once again, I did not go blind by playing with my weinie.
I repeat. I did not go blind by playing with my weinie. Steve Vai might have,
but I didn't. Thank you, drive through.
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 19:20:43 -0500
From: Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: backup vox
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19961216002043.006750ec@ici.net>
> Who was doing background vocals for Mirror at Bh? When he yelled out
>Hyjpocrite, James just burst into laughter. Kind of ruined the line, but it
>was so funny, I almost pissed myself.
I assume it was Mike Portnoy. At least, that's who did it at the Strand. As
a matter of fact, the whole scene you just described happended in RI: Mike
does the line, James starts laughing, then picks up the line. Must be an
insode joke they just can't avoid. :)
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________Pat Sullivan__________________________________
E-mail: psull@ici.net
WWW: http://www.ici.net/cust_pages/psull/psull.html
IRC: DDictator
NP: Trans-Siberian Orchestra - "Christmas Eve...."
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 22:21:16 -0300
From: vanzin@dks.com.br
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.12.15.-10.21.16.2579404677.470866@dks.com.br>
This post is a total waste of bandwidth, and I know it, and am
sending it cause I'm kinda pissed off (flames privately, please :) )
Dammit... I tried... I got my messages today and the jams were
coming: 2109, 2110, 2111... then it stopped... "Cool, I have a chance to
get in 2112".
Then I wrote that message, and when I reconnected (like, 2
minutes later) to post it, and after I was connected for 1 minute, I
received a announcemente "A messagem from ytsejam@ax.com has just benn
delivered from SMTP". Try to imagine what came to my mind, specially
because my message was the FIRST int ytsejam 2113...
Unlucky []'s
Marcelo Vanzin
Sao Paulo - Brazil
vanzin@dks.com.br vanzin@dreamt.org
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/6308/index.html
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Internet, Gameconection, Games, ShareWare
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 18:02:11 +0000
From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Sherinian, Portnoy
Message-ID: <199612160111.SAA27795@cyberhighway.net>
> Didn't somebody post here not too long ago that Mapex is made by Tama or vice
> versa. I think he's back with Tama again, but what do I know?
Actually, as fara as I know, he's gone back to Tama to play the
StarClassic line that they produce. I guess these are far better
quality than the RockStar and ArtStar, etc. lines they produce.
Mapex, I believe, is now owned by and manufactured by Washburn. Yes,
the guitar company. I'm not sure about this anymore because there is
no more Mapex link on the Washburn website. But last I was informed,
Tama does not own Mapex.
I guess the reason Mike switched back is because he always loved Tama
drums. I guess the reason he signed with Mapex is because they were
the only company to endorse him at that time. You can't blame him,
though. They're nice drums and you oughtta take an endorsment and
run with it. I mean, this is the guy who plays Hot Sticks. :P
Anyway, all of this was information spouted from the mouth of my
drummer, a devout Portnoy worshipper. Besides, you asked. :P
KorgX3 NOT The "Other" Ibanez (anymore)
ibanez@cyberhighway.net
"Well, I try to write music that Indiana Jones would listen to."
--David Arkenstone
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 20:18:58 -0500 (EST)
From: gsrockr@en.com (George Sumschidt)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2114
Message-ID: <199612160118.UAA00482@en.com>
>Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 18:00:57 -0500
>From: "Fred Block" <webmaster@teconline.com>
>To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
>Subject: Neon and TGIF group shot
>Message-ID: <199612152301.PAA23810@pawn.ax.com>
>
>To the guy who flipped his Neon or whatever and did not even know it....In
>the future....I do not recommend you telling that story to someone who just
>met you...made ya look like....well...... kinda weird. :) No offense eh?
>
Uh, that would be me. Lesson to be learned here kiddies... NEVER mix
alcohol and sobriety! What quote is it that comes to mind? Ah yes,
"Instant asshole. Just add alcohol". Fred, I take no offense to your
comment. Point well taken, dude. Perhaps, on recollection, my Neon
story is _very old_. 'Nough said. On with the jam.
P.S. I guessed Saturday at 7 pm) that jam #2112 would be out about 6:15
on Sunday evening. I was wrong! I admit it. Skadz, how could I know that
every jammer that didn't go to the BH show would try and get a post onto #2112?
Oh yeah. One more thing before I go. If you want to see or have the picture
I took outside the TGIF, e-mail me (not the jam) at gsrockr@en.com. I have
to finish out the roll and get it developed. Uh, if you live near Cleveland
and
have a scanner, lemme know so I don't have to bother Buster again with this.
Thank you, please drive through... G.
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 19:22:39 -0600 (CST)
From: Sava Web <savaweb@winternet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com (Ytse Jam)
Subject: TSO Sound Samples
Message-ID: <199612160122.TAA13758@tundra.winternet.com>
Jammers,
TSO Sound Samples are on the Net!!!
http://www.winternet.com/~savaweb/tso
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
savaweb@winternet.com
Savatage Fan Web Pages Trans-Siberian Orchestra Web Pages
www.winternet.com/~savaweb www.winternet.com/~savaweb/tso
W I N A G U I T A R
(see URLs above)
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 20:29:55 -0500
From: "Fission Chicken" <danbenj@eden.rutgers.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Pothead at the Birch Hill show
Message-ID: <9612152029.ZM10926@er6.rutgers.edu>
First off, let me say that this year's show completely kicked my ass.
But there was one thing which *almost* ruined it for me..
The guy standing behind me was smoking pot! Arrrgh!!! You're at a
friggin Dream Theater concert, you don't NEED drugs to be high!
Sheesh. Well, other than that it was great.. new music, old music,
and I was even able to breathe this time. :)
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 20:48:13 -0500 (EST)
From: William T Bajzek <wb2a+@andrew.cmu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: re: keys and penises
Message-ID: <0mh_dR200YUg0UdVw0@andrew.cmu.edu>
>the guitar is phallic. the keys are not. girls who go see bands like
>guys who play with phallic things because they are wholly convinced
>that's how they play with their true phalli. males, ever-wise
>marketers of the good of the world, realize this, and thus push all
>other instruments out of the way.
this is completely false. if this were true, everyone would play the
chapman stick. look at http://clever.net/stick/stickwire/. the stick
is the single most phallic instrument in existence, except possibly
for those flutes that are actually sculpted to look like penes.
how often do you see people playing the stick?
williambajzek|wb2a@andrew.cmu.edu|http://phoebe.dws.acs.cmu.edu/~wb2a/
twobirdsonestoneonechanceisthrowndon'tmakemistakestwothievesstrungupon
eknifeonecuttwodoorsoneshutonefightonewayoneroadtotakewestandandwaitfr
omcooltowarmfromdusk'tildawnfromfluxtoformkneelingontheroadtograceland
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 21:07:27 -0800
From: Brian <DreamNDay@dreamt.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: WOOHOO!
Message-ID: <32B4D90F.2144@dreamt.org>
>Subject: YTSEJAM digest 2112
WOOHOO! Now when are we gonna get to YTSEJAM digest 5150? ;)
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 21:36:47 -0500
From: COOPSAINT@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: TSO, is there really a TSO???
Message-ID: <961215213645_776251209@emout04.mail.aol.com>
Is it really true? has Jon Oliva done a sols album? ii killed me when he
ditched the SAVA lead singing job. If he and O'Neil have gotten together I
need it. Please anyone give me some info. When, Where, How etc.
Thanks, Saint
"TURN THEM ON AGAIN
ONE MORE TIME FOR ME MY FRIEND"
Savatage, When the Crowds are Gone.
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 19:05:44 -0800
From: Ben Laussade <laussade@sprynet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: In Regards to the Keys vs. Guitars Argument
Message-ID: <199612160305.TAA19554@m5.sprynet.com>
Face it, guys. Drummers rule the planet.
Ben Laussade
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 22:10:43 -0500
From: Drummnstan@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: help.
Message-ID: <961215221015_1820007164@emout20.mail.aol.com>
anyone, i repeat anyone on the jame, if you bootlegged the birch hill show
PLEASE< PLEASE<PLEASEPPPPPLEASE let us know as there is probably a great
amount of people who want a cory and would do anything for it.
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 22:19:50 -0500 (EST)
From: William T Bajzek <wb2a+@andrew.cmu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2114
Message-ID: <0mh=zK200YUg0UdWY0@andrew.cmu.edu>
>I was disappointed when I heard that James says "shit" in one of the
>new songs. Not that I don't listen to stuff with naughty words in it,
>but I just always thought DT was above that sort of stuff. DON"T
>STOOP TO RAP'S LEVEL!!!! whoa sorry about that.
pull me undah, biotch
williambajzek|wb2a@andrew.cmu.edu|http://phoebe.dws.acs.cmu.edu/~wb2a/
twobirdsonestoneonechanceisthrowndon'tmakemistakestwothievesstrungupon
eknifeonecuttwodoorsoneshutonefightonewayoneroadtotakewestandandwaitfr
omcooltowarmfromdusk'tildawnfromfluxtoformkneelingontheroadtograceland
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 22:37:30 -0500
From: HowWee@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Birch Hill and Bootleg
Message-ID: <961215223729_67875163@emout12.mail.aol.com>
Hey folks. I finally signed back onto the jam after a long time. anyhow, I
went to the BH show last night and I was suprised that they came on before
midnight. the new material is incredible, esp the song for JP's father (take
the pain away) Peruvian nights and Soul Burning (i think) were great as
well. anyhow, I NEED A BOOT. I must have it. it is a tradition of mine to
get boots of DT shows that I go to. I hear that there is a tree. someone
please email me @ <howwee@aol.com> with a subject BH Boot. plese give the
info i need. thanx so much y'all
later,
Howard
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 22:42:53 -0500
From: HowWee@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: stan
Message-ID: <961215224253_941721969@emout03.mail.aol.com>
The intro to killling hand is normally another hand. however, last night
they used To live forever (instrumentally) as an intro.....JUST LIKE LIVE AT
THE MARQUEE. So, stan, YOU should know your dream theater. you will still
be you tomorrow when you find out that you are WRONG. listen to TLF on
either TSM or Lie single (i forget which one) and you will know what the fuck
I am talking about. how dare you insult me over the jam like
that....ASSHOLE. have a merry fucking x-mas, if that is possible for your
anal retentive, self centered, assanine, stupid self. fuck you very much
too.
Howard
ps- I met Al B at the show and he seemed nice even though there was all that
crap about him before.
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 22:46:14 -0500
From: Drummnstan@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: BH boot
Message-ID: <961215224613_67880205@emout04.mail.aol.com>
please anyone on the jam if you bootlegged the Birch Hill Show, email me and
we can set up something, i really need a tape from this show.
stan
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 22:49:26 -0500 (EST)
From: Jeremy Kube <j-kube@nh.ultranet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Providence...a good one.
Message-ID: <199612160349.WAA14733@hammurabi.nh.ultra.net>
I have been to a great deal of concerts in the past couple months. One of
which was Rush. I have to say that in comparison to Rush, Dream Theater
didn't have much display wise but they were even better when displaying
their talent.
The show began with "ACoS" and after the acoustic section @ the
beginning of "The Crimson Sunrise" was played off the CD the band continued
with the remainder of the song. After that they BURST into Mirror/Lie and
ROCKED the house apart (brief spurts of crowd surfing began, the security
didn't like this much, in fact later in the show @ the end of one of their
songs <can't remember which one, I think it was a new one> one of the crazed
crowd surfers was thrown up on stage and security RiPpEd him off the stage.
When the song ended KJ said in his Canadian accent "Bye-Bye...Bye-Bye" He
later remarked when other crowd surfers were put up on stage, "We've got a
fucking football game up here!" It was so funny the way he said it. I
guess you had to be there to know exactly what I mean.
I have to say the the new material is really HARD edged and perky.
The melodic heavy rythems are awesome! I can't wait. "footsteps in the
sand" is one of those songs. I can't wait until everything is ironed out
and put on the album! It will seriously kick some ass.
I was up for some change but at the same time I wanted to hear the
old stuff off of Awake. They "fooled" around with "Caught in a web" they
really slowed it down. I was looking forward to hearing the beginning of
the song the way they usually play it, but I wasn't disappointed with what
they did with it. It was one of those wierd things that they did that night.
One of the other things they did was kick right into "Pull me under" from
one of the new songs.
Overall, I have to say that my first Dream Theater concert was
un-fucking belivable and if given another opportunity I would definately
attend another one of their shows. The only things I wish that they would
have done was 1. Been able to do their encore, the Strand cut them short.
2. Have had less opening acts. 3. Less time between set changes. But, I
realized that this wasn't really their fault. Oh, well the good definately
outdid the bad.
If you haven't had the opportunity to see Dream Theater yet you are
deprived. Skip work, school or whatever to see them...it is well worth the
risk.. Later...J
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