YTSEJAM Digest 2110
Today's Topics:
1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2107
by "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
2) too damn loud
by acook@tiac.net (acook)
3) Action Figures.
by "Jeremy C. Hallum" <jhallum@bu-ast.bu.edu>
4) Re: too damn loud
by Fernando Ma <fernandm@U.Arizona.EDU>
5) Re: Action Figures
by Stephen Daedalus <Mathew.J.Birskovich@williams.edu>
6) Replacement CD cases
by Fernando Ma <fernandm@U.Arizona.EDU>
7) Parental Jammerz
by Nick Guadagnoli <nguadagn@acme.csusb.edu>
8) DT Christmas CD!!!!
by dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld)
9) Re: Savatage Christmas album
by Sava Web <savaweb@winternet.com>
10) TSO
by RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
11) Re: Please don't go and stretches
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
12) Re: too damn loud
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
13) moody blues is prog?
by Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
14) more fun galore, echolyn question
by RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
15) Re: moody blues is prog?
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
16) Ytsejam Information
by "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
17) New Single?
by "Jan-Michael Souter" <jmichael@airmail.net>
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Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 17:50:29 -0500 (EST)
From: "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2107
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.961214173230.78274A-100000@elk.uvm.edu>
On Fri, 13 Dec 1996 ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
>
But look at all the substandard people who are idolized by
> guitarists. The guy from Bonjovi, for a while when Bonjovi was king, (bleh).
> Sorry, guys, he's not all that. Flame me if you want, Bonjovi fans, but the
> guy just writes cheesey love balads.
Okay, now you're really asking for it. Richie Sambora is one of the best
guitarists out there today. Not because he is the most techincally
proficient, especially when compared to people like Satch and Vai like you
go on to do in your post, and not because he is the most innovative
either. His playing so fluid and fits so well for the song and he does
have alot of technical ability too. Granted, when Bon Jovi first came out,
he was trying to fit in with all the other guitar god types. But in the
last couple of years he has really let his blues influences out and you
can hear that on his solo album "Stranger In This Town," which if you have
the balls to buy you'll find that it debunks the myth that all he can
write are "cheesy love ballads." In fact he is one hell of a song-writer.
> Excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse me? Who's sinking to my level. I happen to think I am on
> a very high level of discussion. Pardon me for having a tough period in my
> life. Pardon me for losing my cool briefly. I'm sorry that I can't be as cool
> as you, Bafu.
[various whining and bitching graciously deleted]
Everyone's got problems dude, not everyone takes them out on total strangers.
> I should just be unsubscribed from Ytsejam without my own
> consent.
All in favor....?
I am such a lowly human being. Here's proof, my under-developed
> retinas.
Listen up. You've got a chip on your shoulder the size of Greyhound bus.
Just because you're blind doesn't give you an excuse to act like an
asshole. Grow up. Have you ever thought that the fact that you are a
keyboard player is not the reason why people are not letting you into
their bands? Maybe they don't want to jam with assholes. I know I sure don't.
Hell, I need some support, too ya know.
>
What you need is a relaxation tape.
Richie
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Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 17:56:11 -0500 (EST)
From: acook@tiac.net (acook)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: too damn loud
Message-ID: <199612142256.RAA12630@zork.tiac.net>
> The
>worst part (and I was right next to the soundboard so there are no excuses)
>was when James would try some of those high wails. Those screeches were
>soooo nasty. They sounded out of tune and the breakup was insane. I
>remain very supportive of James and I really think that this was the fault
>of the sound system/volume level and not James' fault but Jesus, I thought
>that my skin would curl on each one. If you cant play loud cleanly, then
>please turn it down until the sound IS clean.
I've said it a billion times and I'll say it again, get some damn earplugs.
People worry about wearing them, think that if they're not manly or
something if they do, but that's just plain stupid. I had those squishy ones
in at this show, and with the exception of the bass drum slamming my chest,
the sound was great. I could actually HEAR everything clearly, even the
words to the songs.
As far as James' screaming was concerned, he actually wasn't out of tune
most of the night. I think he's lost some of his range though, because he
couldn't hit the late 3 highest notes in that part of Learning To Live
towards the end of the instrumental. Once again, ear plugs do not muffle the
sound, they just turn it down to a safe, comfortable level, and actually
make everything a lot clearer.
Adam Cook acook@tiac.net visit me at, http://www.tiac.net/users/com (hard
hat construction area!)
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Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 18:38:51 -0500 (EST)
From: "Jeremy C. Hallum" <jhallum@bu-ast.bu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Action Figures.
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.961214183025.21151A@bu-ast.bu.edu>
Hey! I got me two of those laughing D-Man figures.... I'll trade
someone for a Richie Rivera one. I need one for my 48 hour roadtrip
playset! I'll even throw in my extra Bafu(with swinging guitar action)
and my Damon (with swinging keyboard action). It's a real DEAL!!!! <g>
-jeremy
OBYJ: Thanks to Andy Keegan for the help with the lyrics to the
verses of TAMP. Hmm.... that acronym don't look too good. Take Away
My Pain. Just need the second verse and the bridges now.
+==========================================================================+
# _ ,/| #grad student, Boston U.#"He's sitting at the edge of the bed #
#'\`o O' # Boston, MA 02134 # staring at the headlines in paper #
# =(_^_)=# Astronomy # He said 'Look at poor Gene Kelly #
# |U| # <*> <*> <*> # I guess he won't be singing in the rain'#
# # Jeremy Hallum # You Took Away All My Heroes #
# # jhallum@bu.edu # Can you Take Away My Pain"-Dream Theater#
+==========================================================================+
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Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 17:20:37 -0700 (MST)
From: Fernando Ma <fernandm@U.Arizona.EDU>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: too damn loud
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95.961214171826.66450A-100000@tortola.u.arizona.edu>
I too am a supporter of earplugs, both when performing and listening. For
me, it cut's out the really high frequencies and helps make the bass stick
out (me being a bass player and all...).
=09=09Fernando Ma
=09=09Materials science & engineering
=09=09University of Arizona
=09=09http://bigdog.engr.arizona.edu/~ma
=09"Chaos is the unb=F3dercurrent of everything we do in life" -
=09Danny Carey, TOOL drummer.
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Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 19:21:33 -0500 (EST)
From: Stephen Daedalus <Mathew.J.Birskovich@williams.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Action Figures
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.961214192032.5194B-100000@colrain.williams.edu>
How 'bout Mike and Irine with huge newly-wed shit-eating grins on their
faces? They'll have to tell us about any classic moments at the wedding.
Be well.
Matt B
"Mary: Why is there evil in the world, Alexandra?
Alexandra: To thicken the plot." (On the Verge, )
"The dead are rarely violent." (Shawn Rosenheim, Asst. Prof. Williams College)
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Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 17:22:15 -0700 (MST)
From: Fernando Ma <fernandm@U.Arizona.EDU>
To: ytsejam list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Replacement CD cases
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95.961214172105.66450B-100000@tortola.u.arizona.edu>
Anyone know where I can get replacement cases for the DT singles-type
cases? The IFC X-mas CD rules.
=09=09Fernando Ma
=09=09Materials science & engineering
=09=09University of Arizona
=09=09http://bigdog.engr.arizona.edu/~ma
=09"Chaos is the unb=F3dercurrent of everything we do in life" -
=09Danny Carey, TOOL drummer.
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Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 16:42:19 -0800 (PST)
From: Nick Guadagnoli <nguadagn@acme.csusb.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Parental Jammerz
Message-ID: <199612150042.QAA12425@acme.csusb.edu>
This is ONE more thing that helps me relate to my dad:
He and I both dig:
DT, Dixie Dregs, Kansas, Frank Zappa, King Crimson, King's X, Queensr˙che,
Genesis and a lot of others. We are the only ones in the family that
don't fight over what radio station to put on, or which CD to play in the
case of my truck.
On another note:
Boy am I glad I went for the loud stereo when I bought a system!! I just
put a new exhaust on my toyota, and I would not have been able to hear LTL
this morning when I was driving. Thank Bob for the little things.
Hasta Luego, y Plácido Domingo,
ProgRockBoy
CD: Yes- "Drama"
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Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 20:17:21 -0500 (EST)
From: dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT Christmas CD!!!!
Message-ID: <v01520d00aed8bb83660e@[207.90.117.105]>
I just got mine today!!! Nice!!!!
What a great band!! They really appreciate their fans, and this shows!!!
I'm really psyched...10 DT CDs in my collection now, and 2 more from Mike
Bahr on within the next few months (hopefully)...
:)
Dan
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Dan Temmesfeld - dantemm@erinet.com / s1133627@cedarville.edu
"Home of the Galactic Cowboys Page"
http://www.cedarville.edu/student/s1133627/gcowboys.htm
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Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 19:55:25 -0600 (CST)
From: Sava Web <savaweb@winternet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Savatage Christmas album
Message-ID: <199612150155.TAA18667@parka.winternet.com>
>
> Does anyone know or have a Savatage Christmas album? A co-worker told me
> about it last night and I'm going to go looking for it after the Xmas rush is
> over.
>
>
Most likely he was reffering to Trans-Siberian Orchestra. A side project
of Paul O'Neill and Jon Oliva.
TSO is getting some air play on Radio and on MTV!!!
Call up and request it!!
Last day to enter the TSO Guitar Give Away is Dec 15th !!! Enter NOW!!!
http://www.winternet.com/~savaweb/tso
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savaweb@winternet.com
Savatage Fan Web Pages Trans-Siberian Orchestra Web Pages
www.winternet.com/~savaweb www.winternet.com/~savaweb/tso
W I N A G U I T A R
(see URLs above)
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Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 20:21:09 -0600
From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: TSO
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19961215022109.00707524@mail.inlink.com>
ah, i let my mom listen to TSO today while she was putting up decor for the
holidays... lets see, this is the what, twelfth time she's played it now?
haha, good thing christmas is only once a year!!! ;)
what an awesome cd though, this one should go down in the books.
~Rip
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Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 22:28:41 -0500
From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Please don't go and stretches
Message-ID: <32B37069.6089@caribe.net>
Stephen Daedalus wrote:
>
> Guys, why do people scream "please don't go" during that section of ACOS?
> Also, fuck yeah!!! I just made it to the first fret with J P's
> stretches without hurting my hand. Raw flexibility, that's me.
> Matt B
Because inthe original Acos,james Screams "please dont go" ..and also
after "he is my only one..now that my time has come..now that my life is
done we look into the ??? sun ..." instead of saying "seize the day and
dont you cry..blah" he starts screaming "dont go..dont gooo pleaseedont
goo dont gooo" ... it sounds really emotional..
>
> "Mary: Why is there evil in the world, Alexandra?
> Alexandra: To thicken the plot." (On the Verge, )
>
> "The dead are rarely violent." (Shawn Rosenheim, Asst. Prof. Williams
> College)
--
Look around...hear the sounds...
Cherish your life,while you're still around...
<Dream Theater: A Change Of Seasons>
WoWoW! WoWoW! WoWoW! -Mike Portnoy
mailto:calfaro@Caribe.net
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Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 22:33:36 -0500
From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: too damn loud
Message-ID: <32B37190.4F5A@caribe.net>
Fernando Ma wrote:
>
> I too am a supporter of earplugs, both when performing and listening. For
> me, it cut's out the really high frequencies and helps make the bass stick
> out (me being a bass player and all...).
>
Even thought i dont use them.. cuz i dont play much live ..or with a
band..as amatter of fact :) ..but when i do ocassionally play with
people and stuff.. dont use em.. i really recomend them for people who
really listen to loud music..and are exposed to it a lot.. a good
example is Eric Johnson (is it him or Steve morse) who developed
tinitus.. which is a really bad hering desease (you hear loud ringin in
the ears constantly i think) ...
--
Look around...hear the sounds...
Cherish your life,while you're still around...
<Dream Theater: A Change Of Seasons>
WoWoW! WoWoW! WoWoW! -Mike Portnoy
mailto:calfaro@Caribe.net
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Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 21:51:14 -0500 (EST)
From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: moody blues is prog?
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.961214214824.18627A-100000@tempest.rs.itd.umich.edu>
saw a story about all the bx sets coming out in time for christmas season,
and there was one for "the progressive era of rock and roll" or something
like that.......said it limited bands to only two songs, tops, so yes and
elp were underrepresented....and wasted space on some other bands i'd
never heard of.....then it said it also included the moody
blues.....wha??? sure, they got the orchestration stuff happening, but
are they really considered prog?
and, has anyone plunked down the $60 to get this, or heard any of it? I
ain't gonna be buying it, but I'd love to know if whoever put it out did a
good jonb representing prog......
partha
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Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 20:53:34 -0600
From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: more fun galore, echolyn question
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19961215025334.00739a68@mail.inlink.com>
well, i finished up ALLLL my x-mas shopping today :) WOOHOO! anyways, does
anyone know how many copies were originally made of Echolyn's first cd and
even of the EP? since it's long gone now and i'm just getting into them i'm
just wondering how many are floting around :) thanks!
~Rip
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Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 23:00:07 -0500
From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: moody blues is prog?
Message-ID: <32B377C7.A2D@caribe.net>
Partha Mukhopadhyay wrote:
>
> saw a story about all the bx sets coming out in time for christmas season,
> and there was one for "the progressive era of rock and roll" or something
>
> and, has anyone plunked down the $60 to get this, or heard any of it? I
> ain't gonna be buying it, but I'd love to know if whoever put it out did a
> good jonb representing prog......
> partha
Whos featured on it!!?!?!?
Look around...hear the sounds...
Cherish your life,while you're still around...
<Dream Theater: A Change Of Seasons>
WoWoW! WoWoW! WoWoW! -Mike Portnoy
mailto:calfaro@Caribe.net
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 00:00:02 -0500
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To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Ytsejam Information
Message-ID: <199612150500.AAA25621@wicked.stigmata.org>
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Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 22:43:54 -0600
From: "Jan-Michael Souter" <jmichael@airmail.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: New Single?
Message-ID: <m0vZ8uA-000FxEE@mail.airmail.net>
Has anyone thought to ask the guys what song they think would be the first
single from the new CD ? That'd be interesting to hear what they would
like to be the single at this point.
JM
pink! pink! pink! :>
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