YTSEJAM Digest 2099
Today's Topics:
1) A lot of stuff
by Marcel Coenen <mcoenen@cobweb.nl>
2) The X-Mas Surprise
by "Bruce D. Duesterhoeft" <bduesterhoeft@enter.net>
3) Re: trent reznor
by matt rosin <msr7146@unix.tamu.edu>
4) A FAQ question
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
5) Megadeth, Heavy stuff, DT-shirts
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
6) Birch.
by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
7) Charlotte Rush show
by Jeremy Lemmon <JRLEMMO@VM.SC.EDU>
8) Keyboards in rock music (kinda long)
by "NEVANS.US.ORACLE.COM" <NEVANS@us.oracle.com>
9) more providence help
by Anton Max <madmax@andrew.cmu.edu>
10) Re: apology and key-boardists
by Stephen Daedalus <Mathew.J.Birskovich@williams.edu>
11) Re: keyboards, etc.
by "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
12) Truce?
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
13) Re: keyboards, etc.
by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
14) Cleaning CD's, skipping, etc...
by "Matthew A. Schnoor" <schnoor@cs.pdx.edu>
15) Cleaning CD players, etc.
by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
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Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 00:03:44 +0200
From: Marcel Coenen <mcoenen@cobweb.nl>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: A lot of stuff
Message-ID: <199612112203.AAA19681@spider01.cobweb.nl>
Hi Jammerz,
Here is Marcel from Lemur Voice.
At first a few comments about powerchord guitarists, it is everyone's own
choice to play what he wants to play, if you want to shred, you have to
practise a lot for that, there are a lot of people who don't want to
practise that much, so they become a good rhythm player, that also takes a
lot of feel and a good right hand.
About keyboardplayers, I morely like keyboardplayers who also play
powerchords, it really sounds great when you play that with a fat sound,
like a hammond with some distortion or whatever.
The statement that a keyboardplayer is better than a guitarist sucks, it's
just bullshit. It are two very different instruments, every instrument has
it's own sound and style.
This one is for Bernd from Superior, I hear a lot of your band, will you
please E-mail me privately, maybe we can chat a little about music.
About our Lemur Voice website: it has a few new features, there is a
newspage now, and for all guitarists out there, it has Lemur Voice
Tabulature !!!
For now just one song is transcribed (including Guitarsolo), it is "Akasha
Chronicles" so for all guitarists, it is quite a challenge to play that
(also still for myself, haha). I transcribed it myself, so it has no
mistakes and it are the good transcriptions.
More songs will be added in the future, I am busy to transcribe all our songs.
Please fill in our guestbook for more comments, it really helps me to get
our page the most up to date, there will be pictures added in the future, as
fast as I can get hold of a good scanner.
Traders, watch this:
I will put my up to date trading list as soon as possible on the Lemur Voice
website when you click on my name.
I have a lot of video's, tapes, demo's, CD-recordings and more to trade.
I am searching for a lot of good sounding stuff, so If someone is
interested, please E-mail me personally or watch our website in a few weeks.
For Video's I use the european system PAL and VHS 240 minutes tapes.
For cassettes I only trade on Maxell XLII tapes. They just sound the best.
I am looking for guitarstuff, performances from all kind of guitarists,
clinics on video, etc.
I have a lot to trade.
Okay, take care all of you and don't forget to visit our website.
Marcel Coenen
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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 18:07:37 -0500
From: "Bruce D. Duesterhoeft" <bduesterhoeft@enter.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: The X-Mas Surprise
Message-ID: <32AF3EB9.2C03@enter.net>
I recieved my DT Christmas Present today in the mail. And what a
wonderful present it is. It's a shame all the non-fan clubers can get
it, although DT might do again next year so I'd be signing up!!!!
BTW the time at Birch Hill is almost here. I ready, but all I can say
is that it better not be raining Saturday night. They're calling for
rain and I'll be more than a pissed camper, I'll be a wet one too.
CYA'll Satuday!
Bruce
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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 17:07:51 -0600 (CST)
From: matt rosin <msr7146@unix.tamu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: trent reznor
Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19961211162102.22dfda8c@tam2000.tamu.edu>
> While I am not a big fan, Trent Resner has done a lot for keyboardists,
>although I wonder if the guy can play a keyboard solo besides creating weird
>sounds.
yes, he can. trent reznor is classically trained in piano. he is a very
talented piano player. that is just not the style he wishes to pursue,
which is fine with me, since i love his music.
-matt.
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m a t t r o s i n / imagescape@tamu.edu
S U R R E A L I T Y / http://http.tamu.edu:8000/~msr7146/imagescape/
dark ethereal music / SURREALITY III COMING SOON.
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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 18:08:50 -0500 (EST)
From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: A FAQ question
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9612111818.G16211-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
Yes, a Frequently Asked Question question. :) Someone has told me that,
contrary to answer 3.5, the symbol in LatM is *not* an alceringa. Is
there anyone out there that can authoritatively say, one way or another?
Any and all help will be greatly appreciated. Mail me if you have any
thoughts. Thanks.
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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 16:14:02 -0700
From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Megadeth, Heavy stuff, DT-shirts
Message-ID: <199612112314.QAA76100@kitts.u.arizona.edu>
>Megadeth's guitarist
>extraordinare is Marty Friedman.
>
>Dan
>
Let's not forget Mr. Mustaine, now! It's not like he's never done a lead
break before. Some of my favorite MD stuff has that "dueling guitar" stuff
in it (ala "Hangar 18", "Go to Hell", "Ashes in Your Mouth", etc.). He's
pretty awesome too. Up until "Youthanasia" they never really defined guitar
roles of "lead" and "rhythm".
Oh yeah, I picked up a few new CDs today. If you don't like the heavy
stuff, read no further.
One is an Italian Pantera bootleg called "Walk on the Wild Side".
It's really good quality. If you like the first two Pantera albums
(non-glam, I mean the major ones) this is a great CD to have.
The other CD is "Soul of a New Machine" by Fear Factory. All I can
say is that this sucker is HEAVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVYYYYYYYYYYYY. I thought their
"Demanufacture" CD was hard, the drummer must have a third leg or something.
I can't believe how fast he is!!
If you're into the heavy stuff I definitely recommend both these
CDs. ...And to think I was out to buy some jazz and blues. :)
Like I said yesterday, if you can pick up an extra DT shirt or two
at one of these east coast gigs I'd really appreciate it. Thanks.
Peace be with you and God bless.
~Vince
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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 18:21:57 -0500 (EST)
From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
To: Yitz-see-jam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Birch.
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.91.961211182038.19280A-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
Hiya, gang. Quick question for you.
Last year, we all know how the Birch Hill show went: doors open
8:30. opening act: 10:30. dt = midnight. is this year gonna be the same
thing? i HATED waiting in line like we did and i'm not particulary
interested in doing it again.
so, with that in mind, does anyone what time dt is playin'?
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"..666 is no longer alone. he's getting out the marrow in your backbone,
and the seven trumpets blowing sweet rock and roll
gonna blow right down inside your soul.
pythagoras with the looking-glass, reflect the full moon.
in blood, he's writing the lyrics to a brand new tune.."
* * * * * * * * * *
mike ostrich email: syrinx@dreamt.org / syrinx@astro.ocis.temple.edu
(c) 1996 happy fun ball, inc. all rights reserved.
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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 96 18:35:27 EST
From: Jeremy Lemmon <JRLEMMO@VM.SC.EDU>
To: DT mailing list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Charlotte Rush show
Message-ID: <199612112339.PAA24164@pawn.ax.com>
If anybody needs a ticket to the Charlotte Rush show tomorrow (Thurs)
night show, I have an extra (it's a pretty good seat, too). Also, is
anybody going from around Columbia, SC that maybe I could ride with or
that could ride with me. Most of my friends have finals on Friday and
can't go. E-mail me privately if anybody's interested.
-Jeremy
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* FINALS WEEK = * | JEREMY R. LEMMON |
* * | (JEREMY@SC.EDU) |
* DAIN BRAMAGE * | USC BOX 80510 |
* * | COLUMBIA SC 29225-0112|
* * | (803)544-0409 |
********************************************* |_________________________|
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Date: 11 Dec 96 15:03:32 -0800
From: "NEVANS.US.ORACLE.COM" <NEVANS@us.oracle.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Keyboards in rock music (kinda long)
Message-ID: <199612120024.QAA26998@mailsun3-fddi.us.oracle.com>
I've got to throw a few comments into the ring about this whole keyboard
issue...
First off, the essence of rock and roll music, especially hard rock/metal, is
the sound of a distorted guitar. Sure, it wasn't always that way (rock began
before distortion), but that's the way it is now. Does this mean that
guitarists should always be featured and that keyboardists are of no import?
Of course not.
What it DOES mean is that there are a shitload more rock guitarists out there
than rock keyboardists, and that there is a higher demand for rock guitarists.
Well, those of you acquainted with the population outside the jam will
realize that, for the most part, "the common man" is not the most impressive
beast ever spewed forth by the machinations of evolution. There are more
crappy, no-talent guitarists than keyboardists out there because there are
more guitarists out there. Do the math. If the keyboard was the featured
instrument in rock bands, then there would be more keyboard players out there,
and hence more crappy ones. But, really, there are enough shitty musicians on
every instrument already.. =)
Also, on the stature of the keyboard as an instrument in rock music.. I
believe that many people, myself included, prefer the sound of a distorted
guitar banging out crunchy riffs to the sound of a keyboard, regardless of the
settings used on the keyboard. There's something about the percussive sound
of a heavy pick smacking into palm-muted strings with force and precision that
you just can't mimic with a keyboard. Guitar is not the center of rock music
because it's easy to fake your way with power chords. It goes far beyond
that. Again, if the keyboard was the center of rock then there would be
common chord/riff figures that would be used on it, which would be exactly
analoguous to the power chords of the guitar, and which alterna-freaks
everywhere would bang out repeatedly while shrieking their braindead lyrics
out of key to the delight of hosts of mindless like-minded moronic
pseudo-intellectual too-many-orifices-because-of-all-that-body-piercing human
chaff.. phew! Sorry about that.
So the point of all this is that the majority of "musicians" out there suck,
and they would suck whether they were playing guitar OR keyboard. And just to
be fair, I'll define "sucking" as not having much technical proficiency.
Finally, I'll finish with a hugely biased guitarist's opinion which will
surely enrage all the key-heads out there.. I believe that the guitar is a
far more expressive instrument than the keyboard. There is much more direct
contact between the actions of the fingers and the ultimate sound produced.
Every slight nuance of pressure is channelled to the listener: string bends,
vibrato styles, the many, many types of pick and finger attacks, slides,
hammers, the whole legato technique, natural harmonics, artificial and tapped
harmonics, using a slide, different string tensions - there are a billion
variations that combine to give every guitarist a totally unique sound,
whether he wants one or not. Even the damn wood that the neck and body are
made of make a difference. I don't care how much you practice, you will never
ever pick up a guitar, play through Erotomania (or any other song), and
*really* sound like JP. It won't happen. But I wager there are talented
keyboardists out there who could play Wait For Sleep or Surrounded or Eve and
make it sound pretty much exactly the way KevMo sounds. To me, there are FAR
fewer of these variations inherent in the keyboard as an instrument. Sure,
keys can be sensitive to how hard you press them, and you've got a pitch
bender to create bends, but there isn't a whole lot else, except the various
tones that you can use.
As something of a musical purist, the non-digital activity of causing strings
to vibrate in certain ways brings me much closer to the music than pressing
keys to produce digital impulses which can be shaped in many creative ways
into keyboard sounds. And if you want to argue about acoustic pianos, think
about something: the hammer striking the string is the only way to sound that
instrument. With a guitar you have greater control over everything, including
the process of setting the string in motion. Just my $0.69 or so..
Neil Evans - guitarist, air drummer, music lover, and soon to be: kindling =).
PS - I LIKE keyboards! Really! I even plan on teaching myself to play..
PPS - Regarding Damon's comment about people respecting Clapton more than Vai:
see tirade above about "the common man". People are followers. Most people
who say Clapton rules know very little about the guitar, and are essentially
repeating things which they have heard from others..
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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 19:33:46 -0500 (EST)
From: Anton Max <madmax@andrew.cmu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: more providence help
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95L.961211192422.6281A-100000@unix21.andrew.cmu.edu>
Okay, taken care of how to get there (bus)
however I have an odd request...
Is there anyone who's going to be at the show, lives
nearby, and will have access to e-mail after the show?
I have a final screenplay to write that I'll be composing
on a laptop on the bus, and I need to get it to a friend
of mine by friday morning (it's due friday at noon).
so if anyone can help me, please write back soon.
otherwise I'll try and find someone at the show...
or maybe i can find one of those coffeeshops
that lets you log in...
thanks a bunch
-max
Anton Max
MadMax+@cmu.edu
http://thunderdome.pc.cs.cmu.edu/aepithex.html
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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 19:40:18 -0500 (EST)
From: Stephen Daedalus <Mathew.J.Birskovich@williams.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: apology and key-boardists
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.961211193815.23100A-100000@colrain.williams.edu>
I think Freddy Mercury, Jerry Lee Louis, Elton John, Billy Jole, Paige
from Phish, etc. are just as revered as most guitarists out there.
MacAlpine is just as renouned a keyboardist as an ax-player too. Sorry
about the insult to Resner. I wish he did play using some of his skill.
FINALS OVER!!!!!!! WOO HOOOOOOO!!!!!
"Mary: Why is there evil in the world, Alexandra?
Alexandra: To thicken the plot." (On the Verge, )
"The dead are rarely violent." (Shawn Rosenheim, Asst. Prof. Williams College)
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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 96 19:20:18 -0600
From: "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: keyboards, etc.
Message-ID: <32af5dd04c13235@mhub1.tc.umn.edu>
> But bass players always will have work because you need that bottom end.
> Drummers will always have work to keep a beat. Vocalists will always have
> work, and in that department, we have some real winners. But why do
> keyboardists have to be expendable?
Um, I can agree with a lot of what you're saying, but vocalists/bass
players/guitarists definitely DON'T always have work. An exceptional vocalist or
guitarist will usually have work, because they are in short supply, but if one
is merely adequate, one will have problems, because there are eight million
others who are just the same. Drum players, even the merely adequate ones (or
even worse), will usually have work, just because there are so few drum players
who don't suck. However, while they'll have work, they usually won't have
stability.
I do, however, agree with you on Clapton. ;-)
-Brian
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/6521
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/3771
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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 18:31:33 +0000
From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Truce?
Message-ID: <199612120141.SAA29548@cyberhighway.net>
> All I have to say is Trent Resner, WHO-da-fuck from Smashing Pumpkins,
> Ambient music, Yani, Who-da-Fuck from Black Crows, Who-da-fuck from Sonic
> Youth, etc. There are just as many shitty keyboardists who can only make
> little sound-effects as shitty guitarists who can only play power chords.
You don't seem to know what your talking about. Don't dis a
keyboard player you've never listened to. It's spelled Yanni. Also
you're being a dick. I know some people on this jam who happen to
like this kind of stuff and if you want to make fun of it here , you
will be severely throttle and castrated with plastic kitchenware.
Also, (correct me if I'm wrong) Trent Reznor I has a (Master's,
Bachelor's?) degree in music education and theory. I'm sure he knows
how to play better stuff, but this is the best way for him to make
money. I'm sure he enjoys doing it. I enjoy his music from time to
time. Don't knock people's talent until you check your own.
I hate to be so harsh but I play both guitar and keyboards so I'm
sitting on the fence. Ripping from either side is truly rediculous.
Damon was only asking that keyboard players get the respect they
deserve. There are obviously some of you against this and I pity
you. This is the closed-mindedness that allows more of the
less-talented bands to acheive the popularity they get in the US.
Just let me ask you to do this. Look through your CD collection and
realize how many of the more talented bands use keyboards. Almost
every progressive band uses them extensively and are/will be using
them in the future if they haven't. Fates Warning is adopting them
on their upcoming album (care of KevMo) and Queensryche has used them
to a degree in the past and will hopefully be doing so in the future.
I will also admit that these progressive bands have some of the most
excellent guitar players that I have had the pleasure of listening
to, but I believe they would all sound bland if the keyboards weren't
there. Bands and musicians have to work as a team regardless of what
instrument they play. This teamwork is what creates the beautiful
strands of aural artwork we weave into wonderful tapestries for the
listener to enjoy.
Let's not let a foolish issue such as this divide us. We're all
here to appreciate the band that encorporates all of these qualities.
Let them be a guide for us to follow, not a wound that tears us
apart.
Peace!
KorgX3 NOT The "Other" Ibanez (anymore)
ibanez@cyberhighway.net
"Well, I try to write music that Indiana Jones would listen to."
--David Arkenstone
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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 96 20:54:12 EST
From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: keyboards, etc.
Message-ID: <9612120154.AA15360@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
I don't know. I always see want ads for bass and drums, bass and drums,
vocalist, vocalist, female vocalist, etc. and of course the page and a half
of guitar ads. You know what i saw for work for keyboardists? Arranging
children's songs. Come on, people, I am a musician too. Oh well, time to
practice my useless instrument.
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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 17:59:13 -0800 (PST)
From: "Matthew A. Schnoor" <schnoor@cs.pdx.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Cleaning CD's, skipping, etc...
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.961211174742.11946A-100000@sarin.cs.pdx.edu>
Addressed to Chris Merlo, but applicable to all:
When your CD player starts doing that to otherwise perfect-looking CD's,
I'd start wondering if the CD player isn't the source of the problem.
You might want to look into getting a Laser Head cleaner (uh huh huh huh,
I said "head") and run that a time or three.
Those little Laser Cleaners come built onto a dummy CD, that you just
stick into the drive and press PLAY. It should clean off the lens and
give you better tracking. If that doesn't help, it's probably time for
an adjustment or a replacement, if it's out of warranty or too expensive
to repair.
However, if your CD's are dirty/scratched/dusty and you want to clean
them, i recommend you get a bottle of isopropyl alcohol, pour some into a
clean spray bottle and water it down. Then, find a very soft terrycloth
towel, free of dust or lint, and clean that CD. Spray a light coat of the
mix, then use a flat portion of the towel and wipe from center to edge,
slowly and lightly. Work your way around the CD until you wipe all the
dirt off, and until there aren't any streak marks.
Soft chamois pads will work better than a towel any day. However, stay
away from corduroy, sponges, and steel wool (obviously :).
If this still leaves scratches, I'd recommend a very light-duty wax, such
as a very thin Turtle Wax or something. This, or other compounds
designed to hide scratches, will effectively fill in the gaps caused by
the scratches and give your CD player a better chance to read the CD
accurately.
If you've got a deep enough scratch, I recommend you find a very mild
abrasive like, say, plain toothpaste, or a better polish like "Meguiar's
Lacquer/Guitar Polish" (Available from Luthier shops, such as
Stewart-Macdonald) and work that way. Be very careful with these
abrasives, as they will replace one big scratch with thousands of tiny
ones. Use a terrycloth towel or an old sock (not TOO dirty, eh Chris?)
and gently rub the abrasive to and from the center of the CD.
In all cases, avoid swirling an abrasive/cleaner or creating scratches
parallel to the direction the laser reads the CD... this will only
complicate problems further. CD player lasers generally deal better
with scratches going to/from the center.
Hope this helps. If worst comes to worst, replace the CD. :)
My first post in months, and I've waited to post something useful! WOO!
Apologies for lack of DTC... oh, and by the way, all you priviliged few
who live on the East Coast, hours away from the shows... you all suck! ;)
See ya,
[ Matthew A. Schnoor ] [M-Bone@ytsejam@irc.dreamt.org:2112 ]
[ schnoor@cs.pdx.edu ] [http://www.cs.pdx.edu/~schnoor/index.html ]
[ schnoor@spiritone.com ] [Portland, OR - clean water and good beer! ]
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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 96 18:32:15 PST
From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Cleaning CD players, etc.
Message-ID: <9612120232.AA07393@tengs1>
>Hey, gang. Dammit, where's Hairball when you need him?
Yeah, I miss that guy *sniff*.
>Anyway, my CD player has become very temperamental. CDs that have
>no scratches, no lint, no nothin' have started to skip and even grind
>to a halt, almost always on track 7 for some reason, though occasionally
>6 or 9. What if 6... oh, never mind. These discs, incidentally, work
>just fine in my other CD players. So, if I buy one of those expensice
>CD-Player Cleaning Kits, will that help? Is there a cheaper solution,
>like alcohol and Q-Tips for tape players?
I kept getting error readouts on my car system (Pioneer Supertuner IV).
CDs seemed to skip at the slightest jolt or turn. Some wouldn't
even play. I did one thing where I pulled the body out of the CD chassis
and turned it sideways---- sometimes this would allow certain CDs to
track. Thus, I thought it was the anti-roll mechanism or something
related, since I had cleaned the lens a month or so beforehand. Not
wanting to take it back the the shop and be musicless for two weeks,
I said 'what the hell' and pulled the damn thing out and cleaned *really*
thoroughly this time. Yes, if you are careful, Q-tips and Isopropyl
(I have access to industrial grade stuff here at work) are fine. I
cleaned the dust from last summer from the plastic gears and everywhere
else I could get at--- careful not to move anything manually too much.
I was especially careful in cleaning the lens. such a small amount of
solvent evaporates really fast, so I had a few dry q-tips I held in my
mouth so I could wipe it quickly. Now the player works fine. I am going
to take it in for "preventative maintenance" soon though (I'm sure they
lubricate moving parts with graphite, as well), since some of the
switches are getting worn, I'm sure they'll do a better job cleaning
it than I did, but it works for now. I've done this twice in the past
1.5 years.
Now, if it's not a cleanliness problem, I had a problem similar to
yours with my standalone unit five or six years ago. I took off the
cover and worked the moving parts around a little and I've had no
problems with it since! Good performance for a little $100 circa~ '91
CD player. Note: you should be careful what you touch--- you might
get zapped if you touch the output from a capacitor (not bad on
something so small). *Or* you could fry an integrated circuit. If you
have access to a grounding wriststrap (protects a device against ESD,
or electrical stress damage) that you get when you buy a computer,
then all the better.
good luck,
Zach
(going to the mailbox to check for the fanclub package)
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