YTSEJAM Digest 2096
Today's Topics:
1) images and words
by RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
2) Re: Kevin
by William T Bajzek <wb2a+@andrew.cmu.edu>
3) Re: The Secret, Learning To Live
by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
4) Re: Steve Vai at Birch Hill
by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
5) One
by Jennifer <jenibear@gvn.net>
6) Shirt orders...
by Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu>
7) Re: the great hair-cut controversy
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
8) Age restrictions and I need a left to Birch hill
by augustl@cyprus-c.it.earthlink.net (Heath Augustover)
9) DTIFC Christmas present
by Big.Swifty@twav.com
10) PLease- Quick!
by m_washke@acad.lvc.edu (Michael Washkevich)
11) TSO sound clips?
by "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
12) Stuff for sale at DT shows?
by "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
13) The innocence of greed breeds two names and a squirrel named "ganary"
by Phillip <pkish@sprynet.com>
14) Pianists vs. Guitarists.
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
15) RE: new prog
by trevorw@ms.kallback.com
16) Re: Superior Airplay
by Bernd Basmer <basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de>
17) Ooh! and Aha!
by nigelb@thehub.com.au (Nigel Bridgeman)
18) TD, not DT
by akyuz@ltp.dmx.epfl.ch
19) Shameless waste of bandwidth...
by "Ollila Marko" <marko.ollila@metsaserla.fi>
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Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 21:23:24 -0600
From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: images and words
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19961211032324.006fcf08@mail.inlink.com>
>Hair doesn't make the musician, it
>just adds to the image.
>
image is nothing (but it can be fun:), thirst is everything. musical
thirst that is :)
anyways, what about the words? ;)
~Rip
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Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 22:31:29 -0500 (EST)
From: William T Bajzek <wb2a+@andrew.cmu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Kevin
Message-ID: <0mfWgF200YUg0TQbo0@andrew.cmu.edu>
> His music, and now his persona, seems (IMHO)
> to be going against what DT is about.
this is why Kevin is no longer in DT. FYI
williambajzek|wb2a@andrew.cmu.edu|http://phoebe.dws.acs.cmu.edu/~wb2a/
twobirdsonestoneonechanceisthrowndon'tmakemistakestwothievesstrungupon
eknifeonecuttwodoorsoneshutonefightonewayoneroadtotakewestandandwaitfr
omcooltowarmfromdusk'tildawnfromfluxtoformkneelingontheroadtograceland
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Date: Tue, 10 Dec 96 23:28:31 EST
From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: The Secret, Learning To Live
Message-ID: <9612110428.AA02150@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
Hey, Bafu. Keyboard players slow? Well, buddy, let me tell you something.
You're just jealous. All you guitar players are. Because overall, keyboard
players are better musicians. Yeah, there are your exceptional guitarists
like Vai and JP, but for the most part, guitarists can learn three power
chords and become millionaires. Hey, look at Nirvana. Power chord central.
But try to get a keyboardist to play power chords. Sounds crappy. We're
forced to be good because keyboardists can't fake it. You guitarists can fake
it better than women can. Therefore, you're losers.
Flame away if you must, but the keyboard bashing will come to an end today. I
am bdeclaring war.
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Date: Tue, 10 Dec 96 23:39:54 EST
From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Steve Vai at Birch Hill
Message-ID: <9612110439.AA11260@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
Bill, I might be there, depends on if the music director of the radio station
can get me in. I can't afford to pay for a ticket.
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Date: Tue, 10 Dec 96 21:03:48 -0000
From: Jennifer <jenibear@gvn.net>
To: "Ytsejam Mailing List" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: One
Message-ID: <199612110503.VAA10299@pawn.ax.com>
Henrick stated the following about _Johnny Got His Gun_ in Ytsejam #2089:
>I read this book some five years ago, in just a couple of days, and I still
>have most of it in clear memory. So this is my gift to all of you for
>Cristmas. Go read it! It's a bestseller.
While it is a thought provoking book (the idea of what cost for democracy
and liberty occurs again and again, for example), I would forewarn people
in saying that it is *extremely* depressing.
Jen
o.-.o For millions of years mankind lived just like animals.
((^)) Then something happened which unleashed the power of our
O) _ (O imagination...we learned to talk. (Steven Hawking)
O/ \O
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Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 21:02:09 -0600 (CST)
From: Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu>
To: ThE NuGgeTjAm <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Shirt orders...
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.95.961210205715.14682A-100000@indy21.gclab.missouri.edu>
Ok, by this point it's too late to get an order in for Christmas, and I
just found out that I'm moving to a new room (I got my single!) next
semester. Now, I trust Campus Mail Service to forward my old mail to the
right address like my Jewish neighbors trust Hitler to babysit their
children, so please don't send in any orders to the old (537) address. I
will post my new address here when I get back and settled in (about the
middle of January) and you can send orders there, but for the time being
no more orders will be filled until the end of January. If you sent an
order in already, don't worry about it, I should get it. Remember that
your checks won't be cashed until just before your shirt goes out, so
don't worry about getting screwed.
There probably won't be an update for quite some time (I hate finals), but
just hang tight and everything should be back inline early next year...
Thanks... Later all...
=20
h t t p : / / w w w . m i s s o u r i . e d u / ~ c 6 7 5 3 1 1 /
| Pat Griffin Reality=B2 Design |
| c675311@showme.missouri.edu c675311@cclabs.missouri.edu |
h t t p : / / w w w . m i s s o u r i . e d u / ~ c 6 7 5 3 1 1 /
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Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 22:32:59 +0000
From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: the great hair-cut controversy
Message-ID: <199612110543.WAA25373@cyberhighway.net>
Alot of things were going on in the last couple of days and I got
behind. I did fulfill my ambition of the last 3 years though. I
finally got my own 2CD copy of Dance of Eternity. I am in heaven!
> get a life.
I I had one I wouldn't be writing this. :)
> musical talent is not contingent upon hair style or length, and hair length
> does not determine musical talent. some of you need to be a little less
> shallow about stupid things like a hair-cut.
Heheh... I have 3 words for that picture...
Run! Forrest! Run!
I could just picture little kevvy wunning across the field in his
legbraces right now. :)
Can't say much though, my drummer Matt shaved his head and looks alot
like the Gumpster now, too, and he still rokz nadz on the drums and
likes DT.
>Never mind, 'cos when I saw it, a manical grin spread across my
>face :). It's brilliant, and if you're not expecting to get it,
>then you'll be kicking yourself until eternity.
You guys suck. I hope I get mine soon, I sent off for it
pre-Thanksgiving. :) I'm either expecting John Myung to pop out of
the box, or at least a box of DT condoms. :P This'd better be good.
:)
>Also there may be a separate one in Anaheim with Eddie Van Halen
Bah! Fuck him. He probably gets paid for this shit. I'd go see the
Steve Vai and Joe Satch one though is I could. Eddie's great but this
latest contraversy in the band leaves me wondering if he's the greedy
bastard or whether or not Sammy and Dave were. Next...
>Flame away if you must, but the keyboard bashing will come to an end
>today. I am bdeclaring war.
Damon! You're my hero! (I play guitars, too, though, but i can see
you're point) Keyboard players get bashed alot for being wussy.
just the mention of a keyboard player brings "wussy" whoughts into
people's minds about a band. All I can say is that when I go into a
place and start playing people look at me funny. A pissed off
looking, cussing, long-haired dude playing piano is an unexpected
phenomenon around here. It's kinda kewl. :)
Laterz!
KorgX3 NOT The "Other" Ibanez (anymore)
ibanez@cyberhighway.net
"Well, I try to write music that Indiana Jones would listen to."
--David Arkenstone
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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 02:07:52 -0500
From: augustl@cyprus-c.it.earthlink.net (Heath Augustover)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Age restrictions and I need a left to Birch hill
Message-ID: <v01510100aed40d409895@[153.35.26.246]>
I have my Birch Hill ticket right next to me and on it, it clearly says
"All Ages/21 to drink". So, I really think anyone under 18 should stop
worrying. It shouldn't be a problem at this conert.
I posted about this yesterday and didn't get a response, so trying again.
I would really appreciate it if someone could either drive me to Birch Hill
or would want to come along with me there. I'm from Long Island and would
pick up anyone from the area if needed and/or would really appreciate if
someone can pick me up. The 2-3 hour trip is just too long of one to make
by myself! I need some company! :)
Heath Augustover
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Date: 11 Dec 1996 00:59:40 CDT
From: Big.Swifty@twav.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DTIFC Christmas present
Message-ID: <199612110600.WAA10999@pawn.ax.com>
OMIGOD! This Christmas present is the greatest! And I'm gonna tell all
you losers that didn't join what it is, just so you can stew in your own
juices for not joining!
It's a piece of toilet paper THAT WAS USED BY JOHN PETRUCCI!!!!! WIPE
FROM PETRUCCI'S ASS!!!! He is SO great - the lighter and darker shades
of brown move me so much when I look at them. Really! It's got a certificate
and everything! I'm framing this thing tomorrow! Maybe he'll autograph it after
the show at Birch Hill...
Mark Peters
big.swifty@twav.com
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Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 22:03:16 -0800 (PST)
From: m_washke@acad.lvc.edu (Michael Washkevich)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: PLease- Quick!
Message-ID: <199612110603.WAA11009@pawn.ax.com>
Someone please e-mail me privately letting me know who the opening band is
going to be at the Birch Hill, and what time Dream Theater is "supposed" to
be going on stage. Even if you know these are unknown to anybody, then
please let me know that. Write back quick. I'm going home for Christmas
break on Friday, so I wont be here much longer.
Thanks,
Mike Washkevich
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Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 22:37:33 -0500 (EST)
From: "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: TSO sound clips?
Message-ID: <199612110337.WAA21130@umbc10.umbc.edu>
My brother just told me that he saw a video by the TRANS-SIBERIAN ORCHESTRA
on MTV and it kicked his ass. Are there any sound clips of this
project on the net anywhere?
THanks!
-- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \ / / L. Jason Hartman "And I'll smile and I'll learn to pretend \ \ lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu And I'll never be open again / / And I'll have no more dreams to defend \ \ Univ. Of Maryland, And I'll never be open again " / / Baltimore County - Kevin Moore : Dream Theater \ \ / / "Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot." \ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/------------------------------
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 22:35:45 -0500 (EST) From: "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Stuff for sale at DT shows? Message-ID: <199612110335.WAA21060@umbc10.umbc.edu>
Can someone tell me what little DT goodies (t-shirts, posters, etc.)were for sale at the DT shows? I gotta know how much cash to bring! :)
-- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \ / / L. Jason Hartman "And I'll smile and I'll learn to pretend \ \ lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu And I'll never be open again / / And I'll have no more dreams to defend \ \ Univ. Of Maryland, And I'll never be open again " / / Baltimore County - Kevin Moore : Dream Theater \ \ / / "Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot." \ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 00:00:06 +0000 From: Phillip <pkish@sprynet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: The innocence of greed breeds two names and a squirrel named "ganary" Message-ID: <32ADF986.518@sprynet.com>
Hi there gang!!!
I am a poor college student currently emersed in finals and I am kindly begging SOMEONE to reveal the secret to me!!! you can send it private e-mail if you don't want to spoil it for the others!!!
Please be a merry soul and oblige me!!
Phillip
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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 00:01:43 -0700 From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Pianists vs. Guitarists. Message-ID: <199612110701.AAA69058@mustique.u.arizona.edu>
DISCLAIMER: Not a flame. All the rips are meant in good fun. :)
At 08:32 PM 12/10/96 -0800, you wrote: >Hey, Bafu. Keyboard players slow? Well, buddy, let me tell you something. >You're just jealous. All you guitar players are.
Hey, that's a little harsh there, don't you think? To say that ALL guitar players are jealous of pianists (have a field day w/ this one, Bafu ;)) is truly asinine. Did you mean it that way? I, myself, strive to be a good guitarist and I try to remain disciplined about it. I could give a fuck how "fast" a keyboardist plays.
>Because overall, keyboard players are better musicians. Yeah, there are your >exceptional guitarists >like Vai and JP, but for the most part, guitarists can learn three power >chords and become millionaires.
No. Not for the mostpart. Three-chord rock is what's popular now, but that doesn't mean that "most" guitarists play only three-chord rock. I've actually found them to be in quite a minority. Besides, do you really consider bands like Green Day, Nirvana, PUSA, or Bush to really have guitarists? I don't. Those guys aren't musicians. They suck IMHO. I don't even classify them as guitarists. I could play that shit a week after I started learning to play.
Now can you say that Elton John is better than Marty Friedman? How about Derek Sherinian being better than Gary Hoey? John Tesh being better than James Hetfield? Billy Joel better than Stevie Ray Vaughn? Of course not. Each plays a different style of music than the other and each is excellent in their own right (except for Tesh--he's an alien, you know ;)~ ).
>Hey, look at Nirvana. Power chord central.
Hey, look at Dream Theater. Unless you can play everything that Petrucci can play, note for note, go home and keep playing with yourself while saying lightly, "All guitarists suck, all guitarists suck." ;)~
>But try to get a keyboardist to play power chords. Sounds crappy.
Maybe that's just you. Sounds good when a **real** keyboardist plays it.
>We're >forced to be good because keyboardists can't fake it. You guitarists can fake >it better than women can.
Don't know about that. No woman's ever had to fake it w/ me. Once again, this is a problem pertaining only to you.
>Therefore, you're losers.
Don't assume what you don't know. For all you know, I could be a nuclear physicist making $10,000,000 a year, perfectly healthy, great family, and close to God. Remember, when you ASSUME, you make an ASS out of U and ME.
>...the keyboard bashing will come to an end today.
Not if you're Trent Reznor. All he does is "bash" away at the keyboard. (No NIN flame war, please. I've had one too many of those.)
>I am bdeclaring war.
Why are you "bdeclaring" war? On the same topic, what is "bdeclaring" anyway, hmm?
Aren't we all in music for similar reasons? It's an art form to a real musician, plain and simple. If you don't like someone else's art, "Don't buy it, don't hear it, don't read it. And don't say yout opinion's right (you fucking whores)" By stereotyping other people and bashing them you just come across sounding dorky IMHfukin'O. But hey, that's all a part of LEARNING TO LIVE, right?
I don't send this sig file often because it's pretty big, but this is the perfect time for it...
Peace be with you and God bless,
_/\ || \ || \ || \ || \ || \ || \ ||________/ \_//\o\o\o\ \\\=====\ \\\ V \ \\\ I \ \\\ N \ \\\ C \ \\\ E \ \\\ \ \\\ L \ \\\ U \ \\\ P \ \\\ O \ ///| \\\ N \ ///\ /// | \\\\ E \ \\\ \\ ||| \\ \\\\\\ \ \\\ \\ \\\\ \ \\\\\\\////// \\\ \ \\\\ \\\\\\ \____\\/ | \\\ ========= | \\\ \ \ / \\ \========= | || --------- | || \\\\\\\\\ \ || ========== \ || \ /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Then God made Heavy Metal and He saw that is was good! He told us to play it louder than Hell, we promised that we would! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 00:04:31 -0800 From: trevorw@ms.kallback.com Subject: RE: new prog Message-ID: <199612110804.AAA00153@ms.kallback.com>
For Christian Prog try Kerry Livgren's project "A.D" ----------
anyone ever hear of a band called "kingsmen"? supposed to be christian-progly or something like that.
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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 08:37:13 +0100 From: Bernd Basmer <basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Superior Airplay Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19961211073713.006c84f0@krzsun.med-rz.uni-sb.de>
Hi jamlings!
From: blane@nla.gov.au
>>Am I the first Ytsejammer in whose country Superior has gotten airplay? :) >Noper. I got _The Truth Aint Kind_ and _Why?_ played on my local >station about 1 month ago, it was my CD 8) Hehe, it's a cool feeling if you hear your own band in the radio. :) And it's even cooler if you know that it is played in other countries too. :) Hmm. Maybe we should do a Tekkno song... then we would be on the radio in Germany too... :)
Bye.
Bernd.
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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 18:10:05 +1000 From: nigelb@thehub.com.au (Nigel Bridgeman) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Ooh! and Aha! Message-ID: <199612110810.SAA26359@smople.thehub.com.au>
Hiyis
Last night, i was listening to Counterparts (by Rush, natch) and when i finished, i turned my stereo off. It has a little digital display that shows the time when the stereo is turned off (the rest of the time it shows the timer for the cds) and what did it show but 21:12!
I thought it was pretty cool, having just listened to Rush and all...
Ah well, guess you had to be there... the first thing i thought was, "Gotta post this to the jam!"
The 'Aha!' bit:
I'm not a member of the Fan Club, but I've guessed what the pressie is:
SPOILER! SPOILER! SPOILER!
*ahem*
The pressie is...
The new album!
Yep, the band are releasing it just to fan club members, and the rest of us have to wait until early summer for it (well, it's early summer in Australia already, so I'm keeping an eye out for it).
You fan club members sure are lucky...
Well, it would make a cool present anyway...
Just ignore me...
Spiff
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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 09:21:10 +0100 From: akyuz@ltp.dmx.epfl.ch To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: TD, not DT Message-ID: <v03007800aed41ed9b7ae@[128.178.99.38]>
Hi, Someone was recently mentioning Tangerine Dream a while ago. If i'm right, they did the sountrack for "Risky Business". I remember the music was real cool.
Cheers, Dave King
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Date: 11 Dec 96 10:43:24 +0200 From: "Ollila Marko" <marko.ollila@metsaserla.fi> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Shameless waste of bandwidth... Message-ID: <9612111043.aa24@tppalv2.metsaserla.fi>
Greetings ye jamanoids of the outer cyberspace...
Andy Steinitz wrote: >Please take me off your mailing list.
What? Too much valid DT info lately?
Dale R. Newberry said: >Oh man, I opened up my mail box today to find, you guessed it, the >DTIFC package. man, the surprise is worth it. Totally rad. Thanks, >man. WOO HOO!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, hell. Quit that already! Is someone going to open his verbal chest (like in a treasure chest, wiseasses) and tell us what's in the package... I know I'm gonna kick my arse from here to eternity once I know it, but nevertheless...
Jason Skewes said: >Heads or Tales - "Eternity Becomes a Lie" >I believe these guys are also from Sweden. Their music is heavier than >World of Silence. Haven't had a chance to listen to it much - but after >one listen, I'd definitely recommend it!
Yup, they're Swedes all right. Heads or Tales is the closest DT emulation I've heard this far. Even closer to DT's style than Ivanhoe on their best moments. Definitely worth checking out. Everyone's not going to like the vocalist, though...
>fave song of under a minute in length?
That would be Nuclear Assault's "Art" off "Something Wicked". S.O.D.'s "Ballad of Jimi Hendrix" in distasteful enough to be humorous, too. :)
D-man said: >Someone should design and make a Ytsejam keychain.
True. I, for one would surely buy one. Pat Griffin, any interest in this? Any of the other jammers who know how to organize things?
Grim88 (Ryan Beall) told us about the DTIFC surprise: >OK, I know what it is, and I didn't get one. Is there any way to still get >it? If I signed up this week would I get it? I want one....
Dangit! YOU will tell me what it is, won't you? If you don't, my pet will make you a soprano! Ask any Finnish mailman about this...
So, Superior's had airplay in Finland and Australia. Any others? Bernd, will there be a Superior video in the works anytime soon? I'm not talking about a full feature home video, but one for MTV/VIVA etc.? It'd be a blast to see a Superior clip on MTV...
D-Man's havin a "Fave CD of '96" Poll. VOTE, dammit! I think I'm off to do just that. Cya.
_Mape_
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