YTSEJAM Digest 2135
Today's Topics:
1) Whee!
by Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
2) MARCEL BERKHOUT A THIEF?
by cronos@worldaccess.nl (Richard Karsmakers)
3) Jason Becker news (NDTC)
by cronos@worldaccess.nl (Richard Karsmakers)
4) Dream Theater Pin
by Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
5) stupid goddamn server
by Brian <DreamNDay@dreamt.org>
6) Re: *Another* post from Ol' Man Henderson!
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
7) AWake shirt
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
8) A Worthy Cause
by btomko@glasscity.net
9) Happy Holidays, New tunage (ndtc)
by Cliff & Pam Wheaton <cwheaton@micron.net>
10) and a blow job with a pear tree
by WildKoba@aol.com
11) FW INSIDE OUT faves
by Steven Thum <sthum@sunflowr.usd.edu>
12) The wrong guy
by Scott Luttringer <95fa467@dvc.edu>
13) Ytsejam Information
by "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
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Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 02:19:03 -0800
From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Whee!
Message-ID: <199612221019.CAA28036@darkstar.ucsc.edu.>
Happy birthday to me
Happy Birthday to me
I'm now twenty-four
But I was twenty-three. :)
Jaz drives are cool.
Um .. for some minorly-related content, bought Signals and TSO. Signals is
cool, haven't given TSO a good listen yet.
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Date: Sun, 22 Dec 96 11:44:04 GMT
From: cronos@worldaccess.nl (Richard Karsmakers)
To: ytsejam@ax.com (Ytsejam Mailing List)
Subject: MARCEL BERKHOUT A THIEF?
Message-ID: <M.122296.124404.60@wxs2-3.worldaccess.nl>
Say, guys, I need to throw in a good word for Marcel "Carpe Diem CD" Berkhout
here. As far as I know his CD writer is having problems (although, granted,
they are taking a long time to get fixed) and I know for a fact that he at
least never *intended* all this to go terribly wrong. I am quite sure he
intends to ship every single one of them, but I haven't been in touch with him
since I got my "Carpe Diem", somewhere around June or July. The shitty thing is
that he appears to have lost email access, although he told me back then that
he sometimes lurks on the 'Jam using another guy's account.
Just my 2 Dutch cents.
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Date: Sun, 22 Dec 96 11:44:12 GMT
From: cronos@worldaccess.nl (Richard Karsmakers)
To: jason@guitarists.com, ytsejam@ax.com (Ytsejam Mailing List)
Subject: Jason Becker news (NDTC)
Message-ID: <M.122296.124412.57@wxs2-3.worldaccess.nl>
Two things to mention in connection with Jason Becker.
First of all, about a week ago I got contacted by Wim Backhuys, owner of
Killer Whale Records. For those who know, he does Blind Justice distribution
over here, and Barend Courbois. He is extending the business side of things and
will be distributing the new Tony MacAlpine, the new Jennifer Batten (she's in
a band now, and I forgot that name) and, yes, Jason's "Perspective" in the
Netherlands. He told me he'd visited Jason in October and that he'd gone to the
Jason Becker benefit thing in Chicago. Jason can only barely move his tongue
these days; Wim said he had to get his mom use a toothpick to get rid of a bit
of a Snickers bars that was stuck between this teeth. He 'communicates' through
his parents by movements of his fingers and eyes. Wim has plans to do a Jason
Becker tribute gig over here in the Netherlands, with Barend Courbois, Jan
Akkerman and possibly Cyril Whistler and Adrian Vandenberg, and with more
others. None of this has been confirmed yet, it's all tentative, so don't email
me for details, all you Dutch 'Jammers. I'll post details when they become
available.
A percentage of every copy of "Perspective" sold will be donated to a Dutch
muscle disease foundation. Good stuff.
On a slightly more trivial note, I had a dream with Jason Becker in it last
night. I dreamed I visited his place, only it was some kind of hall where a lot
of fans had gathered, waiting for Jason to be wheeled in. All I know is that,
in the dream, I cried every time I imagined what Jason'd be like when finally
appearing. I woke up before he finally did. That kind of sucked. I can't afford
to visit Jason although I'd surely like to, and this dream would at least have
been *something*. I always feel like writing him a letter after such dreams -
they have happened a few times over the last couple of years, and each time
they leave me heavily affected, saddened. But what to write?
The Dutch "Aardschok" (biggest metal magazine here) has a page and a half
feature article on Jason, largely culled from his "Open Letter" to Guitar
magazine, with more recent info supplied by Wim Backhuys. It has a picture of
Jason in a wheel chair, held by Eddie van Halen. Tears welled to my eyes when I
saw it - Jason so helpless but seemingly happy, and Eddie, well, being cool.
This message is too long already, and maybe too soppy.
Maybe all you guys out there should send a X-mas card to Jason at P.O. Box
5109, Richmond, CA 94805, USA. I am sure he'd appreciate it. And for those who
have not yet checked out his music, send an SAE to get info on his
"Perspective" album, which is a must-have and, I think, the finest album to
have been released in over a year.
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Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 06:25:49 -0800
From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Dream Theater Pin
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19961222062546.00689640@cats.ucsc.edu>
Did you know that Rocktoys has a majesty logo pin? It's $6.00
I ordered a Japanese ACOS shirt from him/them a while back and everything
came through fine, so it's legit. THere's even a picture of it on the
webpage.
http://sonic.net/~rocktoys/index.htm for the main menu or
http://www.sonic.net/~rocktoys/928.htm for the pin's page directly.
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Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 10:08:45 -0800
From: Brian <DreamNDay@dreamt.org>
To: Bcmj@catskill.net
Subject: stupid goddamn server
Message-ID: <32BD792D.61C3@dreamt.org>
Since the freaking dreamt.org is down again, if you want to mail me,
send all mail to BCarroll@catskill.net until further notice. Also, If
you sent me any mail over the weekend, please send it again to be safe.
Happy Holidays!
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Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 11:52:46 -0500
From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: *Another* post from Ol' Man Henderson!
Message-ID: <32BD675E.668C@caribe.net>
robert.henderson@ICDC.COM wrote:
> Something else that's bugging me (throw-back to my last complaint, er,
> post):
> This kid, Carlos, who happens to be Puerto-Rican, brought
> in for his selection, some Garth Brooks song. The majority of the class
> moaned and groaned and made comments, including this one from BJ Bowdin,
> who is black. (Note: I'm not exaggerating the speech of this quote. He
> *actually* talks like this.) "Yo, you're Puerto-Rican, yo! What you be
> listnin' to *country* for?!" Is there some rule as to what people of
> certain nationalities/ethic groups *have* to listen to? I'm sure our PR
> 'Jammers would object to the notion that they HAVE to listen to rap.
> Rebel (rebel, you've torn your dress...)! Rage against the
> stereotype-machine! ...augggh, I'll stop.
actually yes.. EVERYONE here in PR listens to country music... also some
dutch folk music...j/k!
well.. some of the people here ( lots) listen to american rap.. and
also pr- rap..which is like dancehall reggae but in spanish.. and well
it sucks.. but theres also A LOT of alternative heads,metal heads, and
other people who listen to spanish college rock.. which is cool.. and
theres some prog heads too.. theres even a "progressive rock
association" ...called "the roundtable".. and its cool..and theres a lot
of people in it.. thats one of the reasons we think DT or Rush could
play a succesfull gig here.. PPL will go.. hehe you dont have to listen
to anything..
Seize the day, I heard him say :
"Life will not always be this way,
Look around...hear the sounds...
Cherish your life,while you're still around... "
<Dream Theater: A Change Of Seasons>
WoWoW! WoWoW! WoWoW! -Mike Portnoy
mailto:calfaro@Caribe.net
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Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 11:55:17 -0500
From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: AWake shirt
Message-ID: <32BD67F5.6EF9@caribe.net>
Does anyone know where (online) that i can order an awake tshirt
.other than rocktoys ..cuz i need to pay with credit card.. and do it
online..or something..and rocktoys dont take credit cards..
--
Seize the day, I heard him say :
"Life will not always be this way,
Look around...hear the sounds...
Cherish your life,while you're still around... "
<Dream Theater: A Change Of Seasons>
WoWoW! WoWoW! WoWoW! -Mike Portnoy
mailto:calfaro@Caribe.net
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Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 11:41:03 -0500
From: btomko@glasscity.net
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: A Worthy Cause
Message-ID: <B0000325914@home.glasscity.net>
You may have already seen this...
>To: stickwire-l@netcom.com
>Subject: A Worthy Cause
>Please send an E-mail and circulate to everyone you know with E-mail.
>
>>> Subject:Books 4 kids, this'll take 2 secs (fwd)
>>>
>>> The Houghton-Mifflin publishing co. is giving books to
>>> children's hospitals; how many books they give depends
>>> on how many emails they receive from people around the
>>> world. For every 25 emails they receive, they give one
>>> book. All you have to do is email "share@hmco.com".
>>> Hope you can spare the seconds...and let your friends
>>> know. So far they only have 3,400 messages...last
>>> year they reached 23,000.
>>>
>>
>
Mark
aka
God With Cool Hair
spector@dreamt.org
Mark Tomko-Keeper of The Website at the End of the Universe
http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/8243/index.html
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Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 09:51:19 -0700
From: Cliff & Pam Wheaton <cwheaton@micron.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Happy Holidays, New tunage (ndtc)
Message-ID: <32BD6707.4674@micron.net>
Hi everyone!!
Out of lurk mode again!!
First of all, a happy holidays to all!! Take cabs when drinking-it's
cheaper than a DUI!!! Get home safe!!!
New Tunage for me!!!
A friend just turned me on to Eloy!! Great stuff! They're dubbed as the
"German Pink Floyd" . Very nice!! I was handed these on tape:
"Performance" , "Metromania" , "Floating", "Inside", "Ocean" and
"Colours" The other one is "Hawklords-25 years" (Hawkwind). Good one
too!!
Can anyone tell me abour "Spocks Beard" ? I'm curious.
D-Man-Where in the hell are my tapes???
A wonderful Holiday season to all!!
Keep rockin'
Pam
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Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 13:04:40 -0500
From: WildKoba@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: and a blow job with a pear tree
Message-ID: <961222130440_1087911520@emout11.mail.aol.com>
not even a destroyed hard drive can keep me off. hahahaha.
well, being that most of you are probably going away and the ytsejam will be
less popular, merry christmas, and nappy yew hear, to all those considering
themselves ytsejammers and friends. may the holiday be safe, and enjoyable
and all that............
while we're off toasting ourselves and getting piss drunk on new year's, do
take time to remember those who have passed away that meant dearly to us-
friends, family, and musicians we all love and respect. we can't forget kevin
gilbert, nor can we forget ella.
and we can't forget mr. becker, who is still alive, and i'm sure needs all
the prayers and whatnot we can give him.
to damon:
re: keyboardists
in case you haven't discovered these guys yet, the keys playing here should
put some cheer in you (better than a bottle of cuervo would):
renaissance- anything, esp. "scheherazade", "turn of the cards" and
"prologue"
dave brubeck 4tet- "time out" and "time further out". the birth of prog jazz
ok, enough. yadda yadda yadda
the ytsegoon returns
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david kobayashi
wildkoba@aol.com
bd91014@binghamton.edu
"energy, intensity, eclecticism" - robert fripp
"the present-day composer refuses to die." -e. varese
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Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 13:11:09 -0800
From: Steven Thum <sthum@sunflowr.usd.edu>
To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: FW INSIDE OUT faves
Message-ID: <32BDA3ED.690F@sunflowr.usd.edu>
Thanks to all who e-mail me their suggestion of FATES WARNING CDs to
pick up. I will look for them.
For those who missed my earlier posting, let me recap.
I was browsing thru the local used CD store, when I spotted some FATES
WARNING CDs. After hearing some many good things about FW on the 'Jam,
I decided to get "Inside Out." I have listened to this over & over
again for the last week.
The songs that really stand out are "Outside Looking In," "Monument,"
"Island In The Stream," and "Pale Fire." Though I must say that EVERY
song on this CD is great.
Every time I listen to "Face Of Fear", I can't help but think of the WCW
Tag Team THE FACES OF FEAR (Meng & The Barbarian). But the song is
great.
Any good WWW Sites for FATES WARNING?
Also, when is a new release expected?
Thanx again to all on the 'Jam, and MERRY CHRISTMAS.
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Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 10:37:16 -0800 (PST)
From: Scott Luttringer <95fa467@dvc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: The wrong guy
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.961222102750.7135B-100000@viking.dvc.edu>
>
> Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 01:56:44 +0000
> From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
> To: ytsejam@ax.com
> Subject: Re: Do *I* feel sheepish!/Carpe Diem CD
> Message-ID: <199612220906.CAA14125@cyberhighway.net>
>
> > PS. DON'T BUY CARPE DIEM! MARCEL BERKHOUT IS A THIEF! I'VE WAITED FOR ALMOST
> > A FUCKING YEAR FOR MY CD AND NOTHING HAS HAPPENED! I've even posted to the
> > jam for him to email on more than one occasion and he NEVER returns my
> > emails. Maybe he could take a lesson in ethics from Mike Bahr.
>
> Not to mention international mail can screw one's delivery system up.
> I think you might chill on Marcel, jeez, it's not like he hasn't been
> busy writing and recording an album and touring it or anything. :P
> I've heard that he's actually good on his word, but it takes time.
> Anyway... you better tag and bag this one Marcel. :)
>
Umm... I think you are confused. As far as I know, Marcel Berkhout
hasn't written, recorded and toured for an album. I think you got him
confused with Marcel Coenen of Lemur Voice, who is in no way related to
this CD in any way. BTW, Scott has every right to be pissed about
waiting for so long to receive his CD, as well as many other jammers who
are still waiting to receive theirs also. Not to mention he hasn't been
in contact with the jam for quite some time now. I for one have actually
recieved mine, and I can say to all of you thinking about getting one, forget
it! The only good thing about this CD is the ten page color booklet, with
some good photograaphs. The sound quality is the worst I've heard on any
of my bootlegs, which number about 20, and I'm usually not too picky when
it comes to quality, its just that you can hardly hear the songs with the
stereo cranked up all the way...
-Scott
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"For the first time in a long time...everything was right in my
world...and then I woke up." Dream Theater "A Fortune In Lies"
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Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 00:00:03 -0500
From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Ytsejam Information
Message-ID: <199612220500.AAA29701@wicked.stigmata.org>
(IF THIS IS THE FIRST TIME YOU ARE SEEING THIS POST, PLEASE
READ IT THROUGH COMPLETELY, THERE IS ALOT OF IMPORTANT INFORMATION)
Hey All ....
Here is my new weekly posting about how to get the most
(or least if you don't like us) out of the ytsejam. This will
be coming out weekly (hopefully) at least for a while since we are
quickly gaining subscribers since school is now back in session.
I may post it less often after a while, but for now, it will be
weekly.
To get on to the Dream Theater Mailing List:
Send mail to ytsejam-request@ax.com
For the subject of the message put:
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In the body of the message put:
subscribe ytsejam Your Name
replace Your Name with your real name (eg: Ryan Skadberg).
You should recieve a confirmation letter in the your
mailbox within 24 hours. If you do not, mail
ytsejam-owner@ax.com and I will help you out as soon
as possible.
To change the mode you recieve the Dream Theater Mailing List in:
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contains 15-20 emails each. The other is ack mode, which means
you recieve each piece of mail as it comes through. To do this:
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For the subject of the message put:
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In the body of the message put:
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If you don't, once again, please mail ytsejam-owner@ax.com
and I will help you out as soon as I can.
To recieve files from the Dream Theater Mailing List:
There are many files kept by the mailing list server.
The biggest group are old issues of the jam. It is
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earlier than that, please mail ytsejam-owner@ax.com and
I will see what I can do. There are also other files
kept on the server. These include Mike Bahr CD Updates,
The "UnOfficial" Dream Theater SongBook and some others.
Any time I add something I usually send a post to the
jam so everyone knows about it. To get a list of the
files available from the server:
Send mail to ytsejam-request@ax.com
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index ytsejam
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the server. To retrieve one of these files:
Send mail to ytsejam-request@ax.com
For the subject of the message put:
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In the body of the message put:
get ytsejam filename
In place of filename, put the name of the file you
want.
Basic Rules:
There are some basic rules to the jam which make everyone's
reading alot more pleasant. Please try and follow them as
closely as possible. I will send out warnings to people
who blatantly disobey these. You get one warning, a second
offense will get your jam priviledges taken away.
1. Do not post just for the sake of posting. There is already
a lot of valid traffic on this list, we don't need unnecessary
posts which are a waste of everyone's time. The basic rule
you should all try to follow is to think before you post.
2. No Top Ten (Five, Twenty, Thirty, etc) lists. These lists
are a waste. They take up alot of bandwidth and fill up
everyone's mailbox much faster than they would like it filled
up. If you want to know everyone's top somethings, please ask
for ALL responses to be mailed directly to you. This has been
done with the end results posted to the jam and it was very very
nice.
3. Do not start / participate in / complain about long off-topic
discussions. These have gotten WAY out of hand in the past.
If one starts, I will post once saying to stop and take it to
private email, anyone continuing the discussion will
recieve a warning. These include such topics as God, NIN, Blind
Melon, bands selling out, etc.
4. Private E-Mail is a wonderful thing. Use it when you think it
may be more useful than posting to the jam.
5. Last, but not least, this is YOUR ytsejam. I am around,
and I do administrative work, but I do not say what can/cannot
be talked about (most of the time) or moderate in any real way.
I am the Ytsejam Administrator more than Moderator. Don't complain
if the jam seems to be going downhill, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
Basically, that is all the basic info. As always, if you have any
problems feel free to mail me. I get ALOT of mail on a daily basis,
so it sometimes takes me a while to get back to you, but 99% of the
time, I will get back to you eventually.
Thanks for Reading and Enjoy the List!!!
Skadz
Ytsejam Moderator
skadz@dreamt.org
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