YTSEJAM Digest 2140
Today's Topics:
1) meery xmas n all that
by Tim Spear <Veilmaya@dircon.co.uk>
2) What do you think?
by trevorw@ms.kallback.com
3) Re: HMMMMMM.............
by Drummnstan@aol.com
4) Me a thief?
by v932407@si.hhs.nl
5) Enchant, quick news!
by sw0101@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de (Steffen Barabasch)
6) starship trooper, the movie
by WildKoba@aol.com
7) opinions are all contradiction
by <raitz@guvatrak.ee> "Raivo Hool"
8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2139
by curth@execpc.com
9) Re: Enchant, quick news!
by drkhoe@gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2139
by Drummnstan@aol.com
11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2139
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
12) Re: Enchant, quick news!
by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@infinite.wezl.org>
13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2139
by BeaureA@lskmp002.atsc.allied.com (Beauregard, Adam)
14) Iron Maiden
by vanzin@dks.com.br
15) Uncovered gig Questions
by Scott Luttringer <95fa467@dvc.edu>
16) Re: Enchant, quick news!
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
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Date: Wed, 25 Dec 96 12:33:18 +0000
From: Tim Spear <Veilmaya@dircon.co.uk>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: meery xmas n all that
Message-ID: <199612251234.AA07186@felix.dircon.co.uk>
just a quick post to say two things...
(sorry, no DT content )
1. Merry xmas from the UK to all the jammers... cheers lads!
2. a belated cheers to all the jammers I met at Ytsecon, especially jonny
motown and rachel "wisha" for helping me out gettin to and from the con!
ok hope you all have a good un....
Tim Spear
Veilmaya@dircon.co.uk
http://www.users.dircon.co.uk/~veilmaya/
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Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 06:05:12 -0800
From: trevorw@ms.kallback.com
Subject: What do you think?
Message-ID: <199612251405.GAA00145@ms.kallback.com>
6:00 on a Christmas Morning!
Really!
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
or is that
MCaaHNY!
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Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 11:37:29 -0500
From: Drummnstan@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: HMMMMMM.............
Message-ID: <961225113728_1390163915@emout17.mail.aol.com>
In a message dated 12/25/96 12:48:49 AM, you wrote:
<<
There are different types of movies that could be made and there's probably
one that could be perfect to have DT put one of their songs on it. Who
knows?
>>
cant you just hear a DT song blaring from the surround sound system at a
theater, ive always thought that the beginning couple of minutes of innocence
faded and lifting shadows off a dream would rock in a movie. think about it,
cant you just see a wide shot of NY city from a helicopter circling the roof
top of a building to innocence faded. lifting shadows, well thats music for
either the opening or closing credits.
laterz,
stan
and happy holidays to all
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Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 17:43:44 +0100 (MET)
From: v932407@si.hhs.nl
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Me a thief?
Message-ID: <199612251643.RAA05632@belder.si.hhs.nl>
Hi there,
Just for info, I just received a new check from Mike Bahr, with 14 new orders,
some of them Have been waiting a long time, I know that!
Ok, I know I should have posted more often, but, well I don't know why I didn't
do that. Maybe 'cause I didn't have anything to say about the situation with
my cd writer. I didn't want to say the same thing every time (well guys, my
cd writer is still not repaired).
Just for the record : I have shipped 95% of my Carpe Diem orders, and those 14
are the last I will do.
So, don't call me a thief! This whole situation, was just as shitty for me as
it was for you all.
Marcel
v932407@si.hhs.nl
ps. I only lost e-mail access from 15th agust - 5 september, you can always
reach me at : v932407@si.hhs.nl
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Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 18:15:13 +0100 (MEZ)
From: sw0101@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de (Steffen Barabasch)
To: ytsejam@ax.com (Ytsejam - the Dream Theater mailing list)
Subject: Enchant, quick news!
Message-ID: <9612251715.AA87540@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de>
Hello!
Quick note:
Just spoke with Enchant's manager/German label boss. He told me that Wounded,
their new album, will be released by Magna Carta - at last. He knows that
there are some people who want the new CD, just some more patience!
Ok, merry christmas, BTW...
Later,
Steffen
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Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 13:08:50 -0500
From: WildKoba@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: starship trooper, the movie
Message-ID: <961225130849_169895211@emout12.mail.aol.com>
yo! merry merries again.
to those who saw "mars attacks":
anyone else notice the preview for the movie "starship trooper"? for someone
that doesn't go to the movies too often, that looked rather nifty.
i hope santa fondled you all very nicely.
ytsegoon
****************************************************************
david kobayashi
wildkoba@aol.com
bd91014@binghamton.edu
the new york rangers and the new york knicks: both teams contain what we call
"goons" or "thugs". both teams are doing VERY WELL right now. is it a MERE
COINCIDENCE that i am a diehard fan of both these teams?
hmmmmm...............
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Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 21:40:58 +0200
From: <raitz@guvatrak.ee> "Raivo Hool"
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: opinions are all contradiction
Message-ID: <199612251940.VAA17846@pepe.online.ee>
> I think Lars Ulrich said it best when he was asked if Metallica
> sold out, "Yeah, we 'sell-out' every arena we play."
Sean Malone said something similar to that too. "I don't think they
sold out, I'd say they cashed in."
R.
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Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 14:31:48 -0600 (CST)
From: curth@execpc.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2139
Message-ID: <199612252031.OAA20706@mail.execpc.com>
One of apparently many Ytse-Scotts wrote:
>>PS Anyone else notice the severe influx of "Scott"'s on the Jam lately?<<
I haven't noticed, but I'll keep my eyes open from now on. ;)
DTC: Since there's a large number of "Scott"s on the list, how many actually
have their middle name "Scott" and first name Ronnie?
Adam (I believe another common Ytsename) wrote:
>>By the way, I know this is a common topic, but since I just joined,is there
an update on when the new CD is coming out?<<
Originally planned on being out Feb of 97, but it's been pushed back to the
summer (early fall?) of 97 now. Kevin Gilbert was to produce, but he died and
they haven't found the producer they want yet. I guess if there's a silver
lining to our ytse-starvation (lack of new DT), it seems like they'll be
continuing to write new material until they find
Mr. Right-Producer.
Scott Hansen
curth@execpc.com
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Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 12:57:13 -0800
From: drkhoe@gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Enchant, quick news!
Message-ID: <199612252057.MAA07409@ gmsnet.com>
On the Eve of Destruction, Steffen Barabasch said:
>Hello!
>
>Quick note:
>
>Just spoke with Enchant's manager/German label boss. He told me that Wounded,
>their new album, will be released by Magna Carta - at last. He knows that
>there are some people who want the new CD, just some more patience!
>
>Ok, merry christmas, BTW...
>
>Later,
>
>Steffen
That's the best Christmas news I've heard yet!!
-The Doc
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Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 17:31:30 -0500 From: Drummnstan@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2139 Message-ID: <961225173129_69249893@emout10.mail.aol.com>
In a message dated 96-12-25 15:34:53 EST, you write:
<< they haven't found the producer they want yet. I guess if there's a silver lining to our ytse-starvation (lack of new DT), it seems like they'll be continuing to write new material until they find Mr. Right-Producer. >>
or hone the new material that they already have written till its ytse-perfect. Even thought the songs that they played at birch hill were near perfect, any improvement for the better is always welcome.
laterz, stan
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Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 20:22:23 -0500 From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2139 Message-ID: <32C1D34F.5BA3@caribe.net>
Kevin Gilbert was to produce, but he died and > they haven't found the producer they want yet. I guess if there's a silver > lining to our ytse-starvation (lack of new DT), it seems like they'll be > continuing to write new material until they find > Mr. Right-Producer. > > Scott Hansen curth@execpc.com
Ok this made me remember a question that Ive had for a long time and always forget to post.. why dont they use the guys who produced awake? I mean they all seemed happy with the sound they got (the clear drums,cool guitars,audible bass,keys were there althou a little low) many bands use the same producer over and over..why not use the guys from awake
Seize the day, I heard him say : "Life will not always be this way, Look around...hear the sounds... Cherish your life,while you're still around... " <Dream Theater: A Change Of Seasons> WoWoW! WoWoW! WoWoW! -Mike Portnoy mailto:calfaro@Caribe.net mailto:ytsekurt@geocities.com
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Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 20:25:44 -0500 (EST) From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@infinite.wezl.org> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Enchant, quick news! Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.961225202333.23154B-100000@infinite.wezl.org>
Is Enchant anything like Shadow Gallery and Lemur Voice??? BTW I just picked up Lemur Voice's "Insights" and THEY TOTALLY KICK ASS!!! Them and Shadow Gallery seem to be the ONLY two bands who've managed to seriously impress me since I first heard DT...so if anyone can enlighten me to more bands Along THIS realm...PLEASE help out! Oh yeah...MERRY CHRISTMAS Fellow JAMMERZ!!!
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Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 20:27:01 -0500 From: BeaureA@lskmp002.atsc.allied.com (Beauregard, Adam) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2139 Message-ID: <1996Dec25.202400.1122.640207@thorin.atsc.allied.com>
>>By the way, I know this is a common topic, but since I just joined,is there an update on when the new CD is coming out?<<
>Originally planned on being out Feb of 97, but it's been pushed back to the >summer (early fall?) of 97 now. Kevin Gilbert was to produce, but he died >and they haven't found the producer they want yet. *
Is that producer the same one that did Awake? That was a good album. They did a very good job recording it. Where is the new album being recorded, anyway? It's too bad that DT doesn't make the news much. Nobody ever reports on their whereabouts. All the other big-name bands get good PA, but not DT.
Adam
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Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 23:28:46 -0300 From: vanzin@dks.com.br To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Iron Maiden Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.12.25.-9.28.46.2579404677.492640@dks.com.br>
Hey Jammerz,
I just came up with this question today: in the X Factor album, "Man on the Edge" is obviously based on the movie "Falling Down" (nice movie, btw). Thinking this way, can "The Sign of the Cross" be some way related to the movie "The Name of the Rose", or maybe in Umberto Eco's book on which the movie is based?
Sorry for the NDTC.
And I wish you a Merry X-Mas (wow, 32 minutes more and it would have been too late :) ) and a very happy new year (if all goes right, with a new DT album coming!).
See ya. []'s Marcelo Vanzin Sao Paulo - Brazil vanzin@dks.com.br vanzin@dreamt.org http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/6308/index.html MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
DarkStar Multimidia BBs Telnet: dks.com.br Fone +55 011 870-1888 Internet, Gameconection, Games, ShareWare
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Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 22:11:47 -0800 (PST) From: Scott Luttringer <95fa467@dvc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Uncovered gig Questions Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.961225220400.3359A-100000@viking.dvc.edu>
Hello everyone,
I've got a couple of questions regarding the Ronnie Scott's gig of last year. The first is, has anyone else noticed that the fan club CD seemed to have been remastered from the original performance? I have a tape of the entire concert, and though the quality is not as good, I noticed that some of the vocals seemed to be redone on the fanclub cd. The second question is: What is going on right before Red Hill Mining Town? They started it up, and then James says Oh no.. I don't think so... We just learned about this gig four hours ago..." something to that effect, like he might be talking to someone in the audience. Then they stop, and then start it over. I was confused by this, so I was wondering if anyone who was actually there or knows what happened could help me out. Of course, this is not on the fanclub version, only on the tape of the concert. Ig anyone could help me out I would really appreciate it.. Thanks.
Scott
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Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 23:06:52 +0000 From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Enchant, quick news! Message-ID: <199612260616.XAA09184@cyberhighway.net>
> Is Enchant anything like Shadow Gallery and Lemur Voice??? BTW I just > picked up Lemur Voice's "Insights" and THEY TOTALLY KICK ASS!!! Them and > Shadow Gallery seem to be the ONLY two bands who've managed to seriously > impress me since I first heard DT...so if anyone can enlighten me to more > bands Along THIS realm...PLEASE help out! Oh yeah...MERRY CHRISTMAS Fellow > JAMMERZ!!!
OK, imagine that you tooke Steve Rothery (Marillion) and threw him into Fates Warning in place of Frank Aresti (whos' gone now anyway, or was it Matheos? Whatever...) Add some lyrics that concentrate about conquering self-doubt and reaching for your dreams, and there you go. The singer for these guys rokz. I think the drummer is the cymbal king. The guitar player is likely the next Steve Rothery. The bass player has his moments, and the keyboard player... well, he basically fills the cracks in... (Not as good as he could be, but what the F***?) Anyway, I recommend Blueprint highly. The news aboutt he Magna Carta release is great. I can't wait. :)
Laterz! (6:00 on a Christmas Mourning (Red Water)...) KorgX3 NOT The "Other" Ibanez (anymore) ibanez@cyberhighway.net "Well, I try to write music that Indiana Jones would listen to." --David Arkenstone
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