YTSEJAM Digest 2139
Today's Topics:
1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2137
by Madelaine <maddy@enteract.com>
2) NDTC - Tori Amos
by Eddy M <edrock@connexus.apana.org.au>
3) DT covers/A time to be thankful
by Answering to the name of Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov>
4) Theater, the Movie
by Answering to the name of Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov>
5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2138
by Dan <drussell@thunder.ocis.temple.edu>
6) sweet dreams are made of these
by WildKoba@aol.com
7) Merry Xmas! Attn Canadian esp. Toronto 'Jammers!
by "Greg R. Lee" <greg@aix.can.ibm.com>
8) re: hmmmm
by jsj@ix.netcom.com (J. E. James)
9) new cds
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
10) Re: question
by Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.or.jp (Keiji Nishihara)
11) Re: Tull
by Brian Hayden <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
12) Re: question (korean cds)
by Tymoteusz Altman <altman@sfu.ca>
13) DT's fanclub
by curth@execpc.com
14) Re: christmas is cowl
by Scott Holthausen <smh@ldg.com>
15) Re: Carpe Diem
by Wronskian <polzin@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu>
16) 6:00 on a Christmas Morning...
by dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld)
17) happy ytseholidays to all
by Drummnstan@aol.com
18) Re: HMMMMMM.............
by "Robert Quezada" <rquezada@monmouth.com>
19) TSO!!!!!
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
20) 6:00 on a Xmas morning!!!!
by Rpupkin514@aol.com
21) First message
by BeaureA@lskmp002.atsc.allied.com (Beauregard, Adam)
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Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 09:21:02 -0600
From: Madelaine <maddy@enteract.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2137
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19961224152102.006ac3e8@enteract.com>
>From: nigelb@thehub.com.au (Nigel Bridgeman)
>Subject: Queensryche CD
>I saw a copy of 'Acoustic Live & Rarities', or something to that effect, by
>Queensryche today.
>
>Can anyone tell me what it's like, and if it's worth buying?
Well, is it "Unplugged and Other Stories"? I have that one...it's a pretty
good bootleg. It has the songs QR did on MTV Unplugged...has a bit of
background hiss, but pretty decent sound. It also has two (?) sets of shows
from Tokyo from the 1980's...the sound quality on those tracks is
lower...you can tell that someone used a tape recorder either to record or
to copy those tracks...
Hope this helps!
-Maddy
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Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 01:34:57 -0800
From: Eddy M <edrock@connexus.apana.org.au>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: NDTC - Tori Amos
Message-ID: <32C0F541.6959@connexus.apana.org.au>
Can anyone help ??
A mate is after the Y-Cant-Tori-Read album from 89/90. What's is the
going price for this on vinyl and/or cd. Private email is fine.
Any help would be greatly appreciated
Eddy "the Ytse clogger" M
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Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 15:46:15 +0000
From: Answering to the name of Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov>
To: YtseSpirit <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: DT covers/A time to be thankful
Message-ID: <32BFFAC7.60AC@mailstorm.dot.gov>
> From: "Bruce D. Duesterhoeft" <bduesterhoeft@enter.net>
> Subject: DT Covers
> ELP: Tarkus
Good tune for showing off Derek's talent and how he and Mike play off
each other. Does John have enough cheese 'n crackers on the amp to get
through it? :)
> From: Andrew Forcier <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com>
> Subject: Rush, covers, etc.
> 1) Rush - Xanadu
Great tune to cover! John should be all over that one.
> From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
> Subject: christmas is cowl
> so, kick back these next few days, appreciate a bit, have some fun,
> and get some cool presents ;)
Here's two cool gifts I got for Chanukah: TfE and VH's Greatest Hits.
Life IS good!
Regards,
Jon
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| Jon Parmet | jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov | 617-494-2851 |
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Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 16:27:05 +0000
From: Answering to the name of Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Theater, the Movie
Message-ID: <32C00459.7288@mailstorm.dot.gov>
> From: vgl@u.arizona.edu (Vincent LuPone)
> Subject: Re: Re: HMMMMMM.............
> Do you really want to see DT on a movie soundtrack?
If it's done right? YES!
The Who among others pulled it off pretty well...
-- *------------*------------------------*--------------* | Jon Parmet | jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov | 617-494-2851 | *------------*------------------------*--------------*------------------------------
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 12:06:26 -0500 (EST) From: Dan <drussell@thunder.ocis.temple.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2138 Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.961224120245.2910A-100000@thunder.ocis.temple.edu>
I heard that DT did Damage Inc on the fan club cd. DId this happen to have vocals to it as well or is it just an instrumental version??? My brother is a huge Mettalica fan....he thinks Dream Theater sucks because they have a "faggot singer" Just because James LaBrie's voice is high and he actually has a huge range doesn't mean he is a faggot. James Hetfield's voice actually sucks im my opinion. Deam Theater could blow Metallica off the stage at any time...also DT could play any Metallica tune with ease...but I would bet a million dollars that Metallica could never play ANY Dt tune if their life depended on it.....reply to me about this!!!!! Later.
Dan
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Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 12:13:07 -0500 From: WildKoba@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: sweet dreams are made of these Message-ID: <961224121102_1490050385@emout06.mail.aol.com>
korg x3 (btw, i actually own an x2, which is just as funky):
it wasn't annie lennox. it's annie haslam who sang for renaissance. that was funny as hell when i read that post of yours, though. as interesting as that may have been, no, it wasn't lennox. but i'm going to have to keep that in mind from now on.
and someone tell me why am i actually listening to wdadu? i was actually listening to the ORIGINAL ytsejam! yikes. what's wrong with me.
as for elegant dt covers, i think that tool song where the german guy goes off would be a good start.
but more seriously, here's some ideas: "trip to the fair" -renaissance "secret world" -peter gabriel "purple rain" -prince. i think jp would jizz on his panties soloing over that (and he DOES wear panties- he's the true homo of the band- he told me), and if DAVID GILMOUR did it........ "revealing science of god" -yes "suite sister mary"- ryche
speaking of gilmour, does ANYONE IN THE WORLD (or the ytsejam) know about this special where he did "purple rain". i swear to god, i ran into this about 2 years ago on VH1, and it was like some special or something, and david gilmour was jamming on "purple rain". i almost lost it. and then they went to commercial and then it was over, and i have no clue who did it or what it was about. ANYONE who can tell me about, or has a copy of it, or knows someone will get a HANDSOME REWARD for this.
anyways, enough. yadda yadda yadda
ytsegoon
**************************************************************** david kobayashi wildkoba@aol.com bd91014@binghamton.edu
the new york rangers and the new york knicks: both teams contain what we call "goons" or "thugs". both teams are doing VERY WELL right now. is it a MERE COINCIDENCE that i a************
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Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 12:26:25 -0500 (EST) From: "Greg R. Lee" <greg@aix.can.ibm.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Merry Xmas! Attn Canadian esp. Toronto 'Jammers! Message-ID: <199612241726.MAA33022@slash.toraix.can.ibm.com>
Twas the night before Christmas and all thru the house, not a creature was stirring, not even a mouse...BULLSHIT!!! I just got my TSO CD and I found Working Man at the HMV superstore in Toronto...The mice have left the building...it is going to be a rockin' Xmas!!!
The TSO CD is cool, but not quite what I expected...Working Man is great! I guess getting Working Man in Canada is not a problem anymore...
Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good night.
Greg, Toronto!
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Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 09:46:22 -0800 From: jsj@ix.netcom.com (J. E. James) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: re: hmmmm Message-ID: <199612241746.JAA19033@dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com>
>They almost maxed out a CD with Awake and with Metallica's load lasting >78:59, there's probably a mastering plant that can get near 90. Or maybe >they can get a song or two on a movie soundtrack or something.
I believe that 78:59 is the max time on a cd. The last song on Load, The Outlaw Torn, slowly fades out until the last possible second.
Justin the High Cleric of Lickalick
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Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 13:05:55 -0500 (EST) From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com> To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: new cds Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.961224130206.14933A@bdmserver>
I got these cds over the past weekend:
Tempest: Turn of the Wheel-Basically Irish/Celtic rock. Has a very few heavy prog moments. Great stuff if you like that kind of music.
Trans-Siberian Orchestra-This cd rocks! Best Christmas cd I have ever heard. Just listening to the music and it feels like Dead Winter Dead Pt 2. Chris Caferty jams on this. Great concept album.
Speaking of TSO. A couple of minutes ago in my car I flipped to a top 40 station and low and behold Christmas Eve/Sarajevo was on. I was amazed. I never thought I would ever hear Savatage in the DC/VA/MD area.
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------| | Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com | |=======================================================================| | "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater | | "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------|
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Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 03:07:07 +0900 From: Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.or.jp (Keiji Nishihara) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: question Message-ID: <199612241807.DAA02474@ma1.seikyou.or.jp>
At 6:22 AM 96.12.24 -0800, Albert Balkiewicz wrote: > I just got a "When Dream and Day Unite" CD at a place called > Tunes here in Hoboken. The spine on the CD is in an Asian > language, and inside, there is a piece of paper with the lyrics > and all in the same language..... > > I was just wondering....is this Korean? It didn't seem to be > Japanese or Chinese, but I could be absolutely out of my mind.
I think it's a Japanese version,I've never heard about Korean version of WDADU. Considering the music scene in Korea,it wouldn't happen. Asian music scene(Korea,Hong Kong,Singapore) have been becoming huge. There'll be big market there in the near future.
WDADU thing...Please check the writing of record company name out. I think you can find MCA Victor on it. This album was originally released from Warner Pioneer,but Matusita(Panasonic) bought MCA so MCA back catalogues were re-released from new company (at that time) MCA Victor in Japan.
I hope this message will help you.
Happy Hollidays
Latest spinning discs in my CD player 1.Steve Perry--Missing You(CDS) 2.Junkyard--Sixes,Sevens&Nines 3.Tigertailz--Bezerk
Am I stoned in the 80s? -Keiji Nishihara Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.or.jp tq0139@mail.doshisha.ac.jp
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Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 12:32:55 -0600 From: Brian Hayden <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Tull Message-ID: <32C021D7.7894@tc.umn.edu>
Iommi joined Tull after their original guitarist left. He stayed for a little while (not more than a few months - I don't remember off hand exactly how long), and then quit, saying that he thought they really sucked and he couldn't stand their music. He never recorded anything with them.
Personally, I like JT a lot, but many people don't, I guess. I saw them in concert a few months ago with ELP and they were really good - heavier than I expected. Their guitar player, Martin Barre, was a madman! That guy is good. Check out any of his solo CD's to really get an idea of what he can do.
-Brian
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Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 13:18:29 -0800 (PST) From: Tymoteusz Altman <altman@sfu.ca> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: question (korean cds) Message-ID: <199612242118.NAA21272@fraser>
> > At 6:22 AM 96.12.24 -0800, Albert Balkiewicz wrote: > > I just got a "When Dream and Day Unite" CD at a place called > > Tunes here in Hoboken. The spine on the CD is in an Asian > > language, and inside, there is a piece of paper with the lyrics > > and all in the same language..... > > > > I was just wondering....is this Korean? It didn't seem to be > > Japanese or Chinese, but I could be absolutely out of my mind. > > I think it's a Japanese version,I've never heard about Korean version of > WDADU. Considering the music scene in Korea,it wouldn't happen. Asian music > scene(Korea,Hong Kong,Singapore) have been becoming huge. There'll be big > market there in the near future. > i'm not sure if it's korean or not, but i DO know that it is a possibility because i know that there is a label in korea that has released quite a few prog albums recently. a friend of mine just ordered a bunch of cds from there.
tim
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Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 17:20:50 -0600 (CST) From: curth@execpc.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT's fanclub Message-ID: <199612242320.RAA16875@mail.execpc.com>
>I am assuming here that this is refering to the 'old' fan club set-up that >I took over from in April last year? Which I have to agree was in an >absolutely disgraceful state. I hope that people who are members have seen >a vast improvement in things over the last 8 months, and that they are >getting their stuff through? It has taken time to sort this shit out and >set things straight, but we are getting there, so hold tight.
I was never a part of the old fanclub, but I have been a subscriber to the I&W fanzine since issue number 5 (and since subscribing to I&W is part of the new fanclub, I'm in the fanclub now). Anyway, I just wanted to say that getting I&W is very cool. It provides interviews with the band and gives you the most up-to-date info on the progress of the band, that is unless you have one of the band member's phone numbers. I highly recommend signing up to the fan club, just for the fanzine (let alone the CD) - if you love DT, I'm sure you'll love the fanzine. And just to let everyone know, I'm in no way connected to Neil - just a happy subscriber. BTW, I never did mention it, so "Thanx DT and Neil for the cool CD!!"
Scott Hansen curth@execpc.com
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Date: Tue, 24 Dec 96 23:27:50 -0500 (EST) From: Scott Holthausen <smh@ldg.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: christmas is cowl Message-ID: <199612242341.PAA12374@pawn.ax.com>
> <snippy> >.. people always take things for granite, > <snip,snip> > ~Rip
I always took things for limestone. . . . . ;->
Merry Christmas!!
Scott Holthausen -smh@ldg.com
PS Anyone else notice the severe influx of "Scott"'s on the Jam lately?
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Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 20:24:36 -0600 (CST) From: Wronskian <polzin@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Carpe Diem Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.961224202415.24785B-100000@eehpx43.cen.uiuc.edu>
I've noticed that the check that i sent mike just went through this month. Progress?
Ed
Chat with: talk polzin@isr1165.urh.uiuc.edu WWW: http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~polzin/ BOOTLEGS: http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~polzin/boots/boots.html ------------------------------------------------------------ - Duct Tape is like The Force: It has a Dark Side, it - - has a light side, and it holds the Universe together. - ------------------------------------------------------------
On Mon, 23 Dec 1996, Pat Daugherty wrote:
> Scott wrote: > >PS. DON'T BUY CARPE DIEM! MARCEL BERKHOUT IS A THIEF! I'VE WAITED FOR ALMOST > >A FUCKING YEAR FOR MY CD AND NOTHING HAS HAPPENED! I've even posted to the > >jam for him to email on more than one occasion and he NEVER returns my > >emails. Maybe he could take a lesson in ethics from Mike Bahr. > > I've been waiting a really long time as well. I sent Mike Bahr the money > months ago after not wanting to mess with international money orders. > Mike is/was collecting money to send to Marcel in one big chunk. Marcel > still has not proof that I paid and said he is expecting something from > Mike soon. Hopefully somewhere I will get my cd... Even though I have > paid I haven't received a confirmation yet. > > Scott I dont know if you paid Marcel directly or through Mike Bahr. > > I plan on waiting and hoping I get my cd... > > > Also I dont think this Marcel is the one in Lemur Voice. > > |-----------------------------------------------------------------------| > | Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com | > |=======================================================================| > | "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater | > | "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files | > |-----------------------------------------------------------------------| > > >
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Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 22:18:45 -0500 (EST) From: dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: 6:00 on a Christmas Morning... Message-ID: <v01520d00aee607426e65@[207.90.116.124]>
Well, I'm not planning on waking up early enough to send this on the "correct" time, but I just thought I'd wish everyone on here a very happy...
6:00 on a Christmas morning... :)
Dan
---+ +--- Dan Temmesfeld - dantemm@erinet.com / s1133627@cedarville.edu "Home of the Galactic Cowboys Page" http://www.cedarville.edu/student/s1133627/gcowboys.htm ---+ +---
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Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 23:18:44 -0500 From: Drummnstan@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: happy ytseholidays to all Message-ID: <961224231843_710419123@emout19.mail.aol.com>
happy holidays to everyone on the jam
laterz, stan
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Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 00:42:58 -0500 From: "Robert Quezada" <rquezada@monmouth.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: HMMMMMM............. Message-ID: <199612250546.VAA14235@dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com>
> There are CDs that go over the 80 minute (approx.) limit, but those > CDs cost a lot of money. I remember an interview w/ Kirk Hammett of > Metallica somewhere where he said that they tried to put one more song on > Load or extend a song or something, but it turned out to be about 82 minutes > or so total. That would've made them use the different type of CDs, but > that those CDs cost about $100 a piece. He said that he know's Metallica > fans are loyal, but making them pay $100 for an extra 3 minutes of metal was > kinda rediculous. No shit, Kirk. When this thread was either here or on a usenet group I read, some people had some CDs that were over 80 minutes. There were greatest hits CDs that went about 82 minutes. I don't think they paid $100 a piece for the CD. Maybe the $100 referred to the mastering cost of the CD masters or something.
> > Do you really want to see DT on a movie soundtrack? No, actually I want to hear them on a soundtrack. :)
Seriously, IMO, it would be good to see a song of theirs on a movie soundtrack. It couldn't hurt.
There are different types of movies that could be made and there's probably one that could be perfect to have DT put one of their songs on it. Who knows?
rq
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Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 04:24:58 -0500 From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: TSO!!!!! Message-ID: <32C0F2EA.5BB1@caribe.net>
Argghghghg!!! I just saw TSO on MTv!!!!!!!!! Damn it rocks!! and its beautiful!! Damn now i HAVE to get this CD -- Seize the day, I heard him say : "Life will not always be this way, Look around...hear the sounds... Cherish your life,while you're still around... " <Dream Theater: A Change Of Seasons> WoWoW! WoWoW! WoWoW! -Mike Portnoy mailto:calfaro@Caribe.net mailto:ytsekurt@geocities.com
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Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 04:12:56 -0500 From: Rpupkin514@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: 6:00 on a Xmas morning!!!! Message-ID: <961225041255_1854965925@emout01.mail.aol.com>
6:00 ON A XMAS MORNING!!!!!!!! (almost!) Happy Holidays!
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Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 05:33:32 -0500 From: BeaureA@lskmp002.atsc.allied.com (Beauregard, Adam) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: First message Message-ID: <1996Dec25.053000.1122.640060@thorin.atsc.allied.com>
Hey guys, this is my first message to this listserve. I've been hanging out on the Megadeth one for a while. It's time to broaden my horizons. Actually, I've been listening to DT for a number of years. I must say, everytime I listen to the band play, I'm impressed. The complexity of their music is amazing. I can't imagine many other bands that could duplicate it. Especially Mike Portnoy's drumming. Man, I played drums for about 4 years, and I KNOW that his music is some of the hardest on the planet. In some songs, he's playing in a different time signature on each hand and foot! I would love to see it live.
By the way, I know this is a common topic, but since I just joined,is there an update on when the new CD is coming out?
Later,
Adam
P.S.: FYI, a new Megadeth CD is due out early Spring '97. It's in the mastering stage now...)
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