YTSEJAM Digest 2143
Today's Topics:
1) CRAIG WUTHRICH
by WildKoba@aol.com
2) Purdell & Baron
by "Jonathan Dery" <metropolis@net1plus.com>
3) need help deciding...
by al682@osfn.rhilinet.gov (Dan Abosso)
4) hmm
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
5) howdy :) u2 question
by RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
6) the silent jam
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
7) MY PAGE!!
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
8) Ytsejam Information
by "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
9) As the Ytse-Jam Turns
by Mark Smeets <msmeets@ibm.net>
10) DT the poor man's Rush? Surely you jest.
by Phil Carter <carter@negia.net>
11) Poor man's Rush (?);producer;assorted crap (well, maybe not, *assorted* as such)
by Younis Youssef Hilal <yhilal@uclink.berkeley.edu>
12) Subject: Subject: Subject: Subject:
by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
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Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 14:26:58 -0500
From: WildKoba@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: CRAIG WUTHRICH
Message-ID: <961228142656_1654859061@emout04.mail.aol.com>
craig- if you're still out there, email me. we have to talk. kinda important.
thanks.
ytsegoon
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david kobayashi
wildkoba@aol.com
bd91014@binghamton.edu
"energy, intensity, eclecticism" - robert fripp
"the present-day composer refuses to die." -e. varese
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Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 14:26:14 -0500
From: "Jonathan Dery" <metropolis@net1plus.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Purdell & Baron
Message-ID: <32C57456.26D8@net1plus.com>
I am pretty sure that the reason for DT NOT choosing John
Purdell and Duane Baron again is because they want to keep moving
forward. They don't want to record Awake part 2. They probably want
each album to take on its own unique identity. Awake is my favorite
album, but I want the new one to sound fresh and not rehashed. Hopefully
the boys feel the same way.
- Jon Dery
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Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 16:43:59 -0500 (EST)
From: al682@osfn.rhilinet.gov (Dan Abosso)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: need help deciding...
Message-ID: <199612282143.QAA23563@osfn.org>
Hello... recently, I was at the local music store and I found two DT
imports.
One was "Mind Control", for 40 dollars (2-cd set) and the other one I didn't
quite catch the name. It had the "flaming heart" logo with the word "Classic"
on the top. I am a bit short of cash, so I can't buy two.. Could someone
please enlighten me as to what quality each is, and which one I should
perhaps spend my money on. Thanks.
- Dan
-- An echo of a distant time..------------------------------
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 20:41:02 -0500 From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: hmm Message-ID: <32C5CC2E.561F@caribe.net>
the jam sure is quiet!!! eheheh :) -- Seize the day, I heard him say : "Life will not always be this way, Look around...hear the sounds... Cherish your life,while you're still around... " <Dream Theater: A Change Of Seasons> WoWoW! WoWoW! WoWoW! -Mike Portnoy mailto:calfaro@Caribe.net mailto:ytsekurt@geocities.com
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Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 19:36:46 -0600 From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org> To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: howdy :) u2 question Message-ID: <2.2.32.19961229013646.0072d3c8@mail.inlink.com>
yep, carlos, its damn quiet around here. hehe, even i havent found anything much to post about..
anyways, i just dug out u2s zooropa, and i really wanna check out some other stuff from them..i know the joshua tree and war and all that, but can anyone request one of the less-well-known albums? thanks :) ~Rip
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Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 21:55:58 -0500 From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: the silent jam Message-ID: <32C5DDBE.C11@caribe.net>
hmm.. when its not christmas the jam is awake.. blabhla here lies the silent jam.. hehe
-- Seize the day, I heard him say : "Life will not always be this way, Look around...hear the sounds... Cherish your life,while you're still around... " <Dream Theater: A Change Of Seasons> WoWoW! WoWoW! WoWoW! -Mike Portnoy mailto:calfaro@Caribe.net mailto:ytsekurt@geocities.com
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Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 22:20:40 -0500 From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: MY PAGE!! Message-ID: <32C5E388.2222@caribe.net>
people..visit my page.. i didt it ..finally.. hehe its kinda lame..cuz i havent taken enough time on it.. youll find some familiar stuff.. hehe :) hope you like it.. please email me comments..
-- Seize the day, I heard him say : "Life will not always be this way, Look around...hear the sounds... Cherish your life,while you're still around... " <Dream Theater: A Change Of Seasons> WoWoW! WoWoW! WoWoW! -Mike Portnoy mailto:calfaro@Caribe.net mailto:ytsekurt@geocities.com http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro
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Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 00:00:03 -0500 From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Ytsejam Information Message-ID: <199612290500.AAA00641@wicked.stigmata.org>
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Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 01:23:58 PST From: Mark Smeets <msmeets@ibm.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: As the Ytse-Jam Turns Message-ID: <199612290829.IAA202425@smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net>
** Reply to note from ytsejam@ax.com 10/14/96 09:41am -0700
After the last broadcast of the irc happeneings, shortly after, it seems that Pellaz was making a pass at the head honcho's spot. skadz!
<Pellaz> See, the DAT that Eric has might be their only one. The guy who was doing their stuff moved to Calif. <Skadz> ack <Skadz> ummmm > what band paul? <Pellaz> Bonedance. Who else? :) > ahh ok <DerrickC> I like the mad russinas christmas though > never heard 'em <Pellaz> www.crl.com/~vanyel/bonedance.html <DerrickC> some cool shit near the begining <Kash> Derrick, I love that song!! > got a wav. file on there? <Pellaz> Not yet. <Pellaz> --Damnit. <Skadz> ok <SHANNAN> hi > when? <Skadz> muzt sleep <Pellaz> Skadz, make one for me, honey. :) <Skadz> paul - email me when you get infoz <Skadz> :) <Kash> Seeya Skadz! <Pellaz> ok
Could Skadz' days be numbered? Will Paul get what he wants or will both parties play hard to get...tune in tomorrow to find out :)
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Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 05:00:15 -0500 From: Phil Carter <carter@negia.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT the poor man's Rush? Surely you jest. Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19961229100015.3e8f0056@pop.negia.net>
Greetings, ye 'jamanoids (tm)...
Raf says [regarding DT's show at Toad's, and the friend he told about it]:
>So he's like "Ohhh no NOT Dream Theater. We call them the poor man's Rush..." > I'm like WHAT? WHY? and who's this WE. He goes, "all of us on the Rush >list...""...and, they are trying so hard to be like Rush and are too fancy" >But he didn't think that Rush was fancy. After introducing him to the term >"Progressive Rock" and convincing him that DT is NOT TRYING to be like Rush I >asked him if he has even heard DT's music. He owns Awake and Change of >Seasons. But not I&M. and here's the funny part. I get into an even BIGGER >argument over WDADU 'cause he insisted that I&M was their first release. >Before it got too ugly I just walked away.
"all of us on the Rush list"?? I don't think so. If this guy means the NMS (National Midnight Star for the uninitiated) there is a bit of discussion there about DT but most of it is friendly. I don't usually speak for others, but I know that Paul Cashman, who hangs out both here and on the NMS, has made numerous DT-favorable comments on the NMS, and I have as well.
If this guy is stupid enough to argue about something when proof is staring him right in the face (tell him to go look at any Media Play in the DT section), then his opinion isn't worth the time it takes you to listen to it. :) :)
>Have any of you heard of DT being described by a Rush fan as "A poor man's >Rush"? I know for a fact that many Rush fans ARE DT fans. And at the Nassau >and Meadowlands Rush shows I saw a handfull of "Fix for '96" T-shirts.
I personally haven't seen ANYBODY (on the NMS, at least, unless things changed in a hurry when I went out of town for Christmas) calling them that. Most real Rush fans are openminded sorts anyway and wouldn't pigeonhole a band like that, especially a talented band like DT. Generalizing, yes, but keep in mind I said "real" Rush fans...
Happy New Year, all.
Cheers, Phil ========================================================= Phil Carter -- carter@negia.net * Millennium * Frasier * Star Wars* * Glass Hammer * Dream Theater * Rush * David Arkenstone * Joe Satriani * "Music is enough for a whole lifetime -- but a lifetime is not enough for music." -- Rachmaninoff * Detective Comics * Leave it to Chance * Cerebus * Astro City * Azrael * * Dreaming of a White Xmas. Extra snow? Send it here! Happy Holidays! * =========================================================
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Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 01:03:39 -0800 (PST) From: Younis Youssef Hilal <yhilal@uclink.berkeley.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Poor man's Rush (?);producer;assorted crap (well, maybe not, *assorted* as such) Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.93.961229002150.11753A-100000@uclink.berkeley.edu>
On Sat, 28 Dec 1996 ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
> From: Ryan_Rafaloff@tanagraphics.com (Ryan Rafaloff) > Subject: DT is a poor man's Rush > > Have any of you heard of DT being described by a Rush fan as "A poor man's > Rush"? I know for a fact that many Rush fans ARE DT fans. And at the Nassau > and Meadowlands Rush shows I saw a handfull of "Fix for '96" T-shirts. I don't know what the hell that's all about, man. "Poor man's Rush?" WTF? What the hell does that mean anyway? That Rush fans can't afford Rush concerts but they can afford DT's concerts, so they might as well go to DT concerts? As for DT's connection to Rush, it's been cited literally hundreds (maybe thousands) of times on this list because it's so strong. Not only have DT's members repeatedly cited Rush as among their bigger influences, but DT fans also point out strong similarities between DT's and Rush's music. So I really don't have a problem with the guy claiming DT sounds a lot like Rush, but I wonder about the way he put it. > ------------------------------ > From: durnik <durnik@goodnet.com> > > weren't supposed to SAY anything about it (grunt, nudge, nudge), I might > as well confirm that DT were working on getting Paul Northfield to produce > the new album. He did the mixing on Rush's "Moving Pictures". Whether or > not he will indeed produce the new DT album is not known at this time. > > just in the way of rumour control... I'm not sure this one qualifies as a rumor. The first I heard of it was Paul (forgot your last name, sorry!) passing on what James Labrie told him right after the BH show a couple of weeks back.
Anyway, folks, now you got TWO reliable sources saying DT definitely has somebody on their candidate list!!!! At this rate, this album should be out next week:).
> ------------------------------ > From: "Beavis (Wes Foll)" <wfoll@america.net> > It's also comparing apples and oranges like you said...kinda like saying, Well, maybe it is... > "Slayer would kick Mariah Carey's ass any day of the fucking week!" hehe But they would!!!:) > ------------------------------ > From: Mark Smeets <msmeets@ibm.net> > > for that matter has even heard a few of their songs. I was > lucky enough to get one of their cd's yesterday really cheap > (normally 30$) and let me put it this way, Imagine DT..and > then imagine DT 10times more intense...add some Deep Purple, > Queen, Maiden, Fates Warning and Queensyrche and Gamma Ray > (alive '95) in..and you have Angra. > > The cd I got was called Holy Land...son of a bitch, these guys > are the most amazing band I have ever heard. There's alot of > percussion, veryu operatic vocals, a REALLY good keyboardist > and keyboard sound. Mike Portnoy has met his match as far as > this drummer goes, same with Myung and Petrucci, like I said, > way more intense than DT and if you think DT are amazing > musicians, these guys blow them out of the water. The > arrangments are amazing as well. If you get the chance, listen > to them and just buy it. If I get the chance I'll make a wav > file of some of the songs. Goddam!!! Talk about a favorable review! All right, I'm sold. But I'm warning you, with all this hype, they better be good:).
> ------------------------------ > From: William Kinsley <wkinsley@winthrop.slic.com> > I have been receiving mail on a daily basis. Please cancel future mailings!! Yeah, right, more like on a BI-daily basis. Speak the truth, you DT-hating heathen!!!!
(Are you sure you still wanna unsubscribe?:))
Younis Hilal-------------------------------yhilal@uclink.berkeley.edu
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Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 04:17:37 -0500 (EST) From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org> To: Yitz-say-jam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Subject: Subject: Subject: Subject: Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.91.961229041158.13251A-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
Hello, Kids.
So, it's the 29th of december. only 2 more days of ytseyear 1996.
HAS YOUR VOICE BEEN HEARD?
HAVE YOU VOTED IN THE YTSEPOLL OF THE DECADE?
if you have, great.
but, if you haven't...
WHY HAVEN'T YOU VOTED???@!@?!?@?!?
As we all know by now, i'm conducting this year's ytsepoll. want the hard-to-read-print? well, here it is@!
1) Send Mike (aka syrinx) your top 5 cd's of 1996. a) This means that the albums MUST BE COMMERCIALLY RELEASED IN 1996. 1) re-releases (like superior) do not count. 2) These cd's in order must be sent to: 1) syrinx@dreamt.org 2) syrinx@astro.ocis.temple.edu
<wow. that was alot of hard-to-read print@!>
the contest ends on December 31st, so you still have time. LET YOUR VOICE BE HEARD!@ VOTE IN THE YTSEPOLL OF THE DECADE!@!#!@!@!
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