YTSEJAM Digest 1262
Today's Topics:
1) Chin' Tib
by Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
2) Mike P. CD
by Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
3) the new 'serv!@
by "blim." <syrinx@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
4) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 02/16/96 - 05:15:49" <response@ibmmail.com>
5) The NEW Jam!!!
by mojoman@pointblank.com
6) Subject: Subject:
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
7) .ARC
by "Scott D. Duren" <103430.227@compuserve.com>
8) I forgot something
by FNGX01A@prodigy.com (MR JOHN CAHILLJR)
9) Finally!!
by augie@unix.asb.com (Heath)
10) Gandalf speaks
by FNGX01A@prodigy.com (MR JOHN CAHILLJR)
11) Old DT show
by Kevin Rios <krios@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
12) Items if inconsequence (VRTDTC)
by Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
13) Dixie Dregs...
by KTYA28B@prodigy.com (MS DEBBIE M VESTAL)
14) Re: tape tree?
by drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh)
15) Re: Extreme fan?
by BERTAPELLE ADAM RAYE <bertapel@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 21:59:28 -0700
From: Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Chin' Tib
Message-ID: <199602160459.VAA25884@maple.enet.net>
Why?
Why?
The darkness seeps in
It troubles me
the absence of light
It was supposed to be better now
but nothing
has changed
It is OVER
It isn't though.
It troubled me
To think about it
I get nervous
When I see her
A thousand pounds were lifted from my chest
but the weight is still there like a sinister afterthought
Why?
Is it always someone else that gets it.
Never
Never
Never me.
I'm a ghost...there, but not there. They laugh..stare, but in the end it
all just passes right through
me.
I feel so much
I have to do
But I won't.
WHY
I wrote that. If you're really confused, ask me about it.
The name's Ben....Ytse Ben.
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 22:03:20 -0700
From: Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mike P. CD
Message-ID: <199602160503.WAA26042@maple.enet.net>
Greetings.
I was looking through the new issue of Modern Drummer and I came
upon an ad for "Lessons From The Greats", a CD/Book thing. Among the people
giving lessons are Mike Portnoy, Neil Peart and Tim "Herb" Alexander of
Primus. Just thought I'd share that with you. Yes, I'm going to order it.
Hmmm...what to say, what to say.
Don't you hate when there's something you really want to do, but you
can't bring yourself to do it? And, you feel this twinge of longing every
time you see it? Hell, I guess I'm almost getting used to it. But it's
still so frustrating. I mean, there's nothing stopping me except me. Oh well.
The name's Ben....Ytse Ben.
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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 00:03:29 -0500 (EST)
From: "blim." <syrinx@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
To: "Ytsejam!@" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: the new 'serv!@
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.91.960216000118.18400A-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
'allo, all you jammers!@
i had a chance to listen to "subsciousious" (however the hell
it's spelled), and i noticed how different ACOS is from the recorded
version. It is me, or does the recorded version kicks the old one's ass?
I mean, this one is structured better, and i'd even go to say that Derek
has really improved the song.
but i could be wrong.
Syrinx
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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 00:16:28 EST
From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 02/16/96 - 05:15:49" <response@ibmmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mail Item Format Warning
Message-ID: <199602160517.VAA13607@mindcrime.ax.com>
The mail item that you sent at 05:16:22 GMT on 16 Feb 1996 has been delivered.
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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 00:36:38 -0500
From: mojoman@pointblank.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: The NEW Jam!!!
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.2.16.0.36.38.2377490627.1210866@pointblank.com>
Hey guys....
Let me begin, by saying I'm glad to be in on the new Jam...
Welcome new Jammers and old Jammers...
Since this is my first post to the new jam, I wanna say a few
things...
Thanx to all the IRC buds out there...(Bafu, Skadz, D-man, Wisha,
BigMan, E-Man, Sinista, Chambers, Augie) you make my evenings a little
more interesting...
Now onto business.....
1) Since a good deal of us live on Long Island...I was thinking
of having some get togethers for the L.I. Jammers...
I wouldn't exactly call em 'cons' but we should all get together
some friday night...meet somewhere...and hang out....We could
We could call it a Mini-Con....or whatever....
Anyone Interested???? Email me at MojoMan@Pointblank.com
or
MojoMan@Dreamt.org
2) My original band is looking for a singer...anyone interested
or know someone???? I wouldn't describe us as having that much
Dream Theater (even though my playing is growing increasingly
JP-Like) in us....I would say we're influenced by VH, Journey,
Rush, DT, (and someof the earlier writing has Digital Man as a
co-writer)....we really need someone who is gonna be a frontman
as well as a singer....we rehearse on LI...we were Semi-finalists
in the LI Music Festival...we have a demo (that Digital Man also
played on)......
If anyone is interested....again, email me....
MojoMan@Pointblank.com
or
MojoMan@Dreamt.org
Anyway, thats all for now....
L8r,
The One, The Only, MojoMan
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 21:42:45 -0800 (PST)
From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Subject: Subject:
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91j.960215214026.11855A-100000@homer08.u.washington.edu>
That's Subject:^3 for all you algeblasters.
Whoah, this is like...the "new" Ytsejam... A Ytsejam of reckless abandon,
throwing caution and patience to the wind. Chaos walks through the door,
and moderation flies out the window. A mailing list without fear, and
hopefully sometimes without logic, because arguments are always more fun
when the participants can't speak a common language. I mean, most of the
people here choose to speak English, but who says they have to? Maybe one
of these days we'll see some intrepid, free will-choosing soul do a flame
entirely in morse code.
And why are there no semaphore keys on my keyboard? After all, de
antwoorden zijn altijd al aanwezig. And binnen al kwestie, for that
matter...
So since it's a new mailing list, do we all get to re-introduce ourselves?
Hello, I'm Bafu Vai. Pleased to meet you. Of course I'm a Ytsejammer, you
don't need to see my identification. Move along.
Speaking of new lists, do we all get new .sigs too? Can I flame people
now? Make fun of Ken Bibb and Ryan Skadberg and Mike Bahr ALL at the same
time? What's that? AND praise Dream Theater? Hey, sounds like a good deal.
How many digests do you think it'll take before people stop saying "since
this is a new list we should blah blah blah" or "let's not start out the
new list by blah blah blah" or "what do you mean WHO is he? he's blah blah
blah." I give it ten, maybe fifteen digests. Odds are 4 to 1 against me.
(Hold yourself back, Augie.)
(Silly obligatory last-minute reminder to new eyes: there may not be
moderation on this list, but the one established yet unspoken intolerance
here is the force-feeding of opinions. Flooders, preachers, and avid
complainers will promptly be refused smiley faces. We don't mean to be
rude, d00d, but if you don't like what you see here, nobody wants to take
you prisoner.)
---- > From: Brad Kane <jc309@columbia.edu> > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1257 > > I read the last post on the arastar ytsejam mailing list, it brought out a > few tears (sniff), and I think that this list is something beyond a bunch > of people who like Dream Theater (okay, I'm getting too sentimental, I'd > better stop now!)Awwwww... (passes the kleenex)
> Okay, so maybe I won't do that, but I can still post meaningless posts > like this one! > > Long live Bafu, and find all you need in your mind if you Take the Time!
"Long live Bafu?" It doesn't get much more meaningless than that, Jeff. :)
> Yours, > Jeff =) > (Greg Chew's brother)
Who's Greg Chew? :)
---- > From: DreamNDay@aol.com > Subject: The end of Arastar > > Bafu, that was beautiful. It (sniff sniff) brought a tear to my eye. You > ARE Ytsejam. BTW, IY Doont No Wut Yu R tawKEENg ABowt width crAZEE Pepul. > LaetuR-------------Brian
d00d, yR pHrEEkN mEE oWt!! (passes the kleenex again)
---- > From: Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net> > Subject: Ahh.... > > Ytse-Ben shakes that restraining moderation off of his back...
Nope, no more moderation. Everyone receives 40 megabytes and a mouse. Though I hear that the Jam is trying to secede from the Ytse...
> Ytse-Ben screams, for BafuVai is in the shower singing a mangled version > of Metropolis.
Oh, just because YOU'RE not allergic to water, you automatically assume that everyone else is the same way? How narrow-minded and judgmental...
> WELCOME TO OUR NEW HOME! MESS WITH ME, AND I'LL FLUSH YOUR TOILET! > MUWAHAHAHAHAHAH! :-) :-) > > The name's Ben....Ytse Ben.
To anyone who's never been on #ytsejam, this fellow is Ben Laussade. He designs hacker-plumbing software that allows the user to wire into a city's main water control-grid. He doesn't mess with reservoirs, just individual homes. He can set your hot water heater to "off," or he can just make your toilet flush continuously for hours on end. He can pinpoint places up to 1400 miles away with just his modem, so be careful about directly pissing him off.
Should you get on his bad side, don't be surprised if your shower spews out the water from your recently-flushed toilet the next time you bathe (assuming you aren't allergic to water).
---- > From: Mark Smeets <msmeets@ibm.net> > Subject: Iron Maiden and DT > > I wanted to say something to the absolute idiot on here who posted about > Maiden's new album.
Cool, so now we have not only a Fucking Idiot, but an Absolute Idiot as well! Welcome aboard, brother. You'll get used to the title... I did. ;)
(quotes from that other guy) > -But the main problem of "X-factor" (the X means > -Blaze, Steve Harris said) is the cheap song quality.
No, the main problem with X-Factor is that those metal wings would really weigh Archangel down. They're not feathers, after all.
> What drugs are you on you fool? Blaze was never MEANT to be a fill in > for Bruce, he was the man REPLACING Bruce..BIG difference. How can he > clone Bruce if his voice range is totally different? Hey, they cloned Peter Parker. Anything is possible.
> You are truly fucked up. It's "Lord of the Flies" If you had the cd > you'd actually know that. As for these insert into the powerslave > era...your truly losing it, how drunk are you at this point? Guess he's an Absolut Idiot now... > I Highly doubt you went to the concert you idiot. They haven't come > your way yet, god you are so stupid. Yeah, I know what you mean. It's a shame I couldn't enjoy those DT holiday shows out in New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut, what with me living in Seattle and all...
> Its idiots like you that destry Maiden, get a life and get lost. You > have no clue what your talking about and probably don't even know the > name of the other guitarist in Maiden.
Yeah, you destructive idiot! Stop criticizing Dream Theater! Wait, you're not talking about Dream Theater...
Okay, someone help me out. Which of these two guys is at fault here? Who's the fool, the fool or the fool who follows him?
> -I hope that your doubts are cleared and I wait for your opinions. > -Bye > > My doubts are clear, clear that your an idiot.
My doubts are idiotic, idiotic that you are clear. Your idiotic clarity is doubtful, too...
Bafu Vai
(new extended .sig)
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Date: 16 Feb 96 00:44:29 EST From: "Scott D. Duren" <103430.227@compuserve.com> To: New Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: .ARC Message-ID: <960216054428_103430.227_JHM121-1@CompuServe.COM>
I download some .ARC'ed DT files the other day, and though I have PKUNZIP, I do not have an un-.ARC utility program to extract these files. Would anyone out there know of an Internet site, Compuserve forum, etc. that might have a downloadable un-.ARC prog? Any help appreciated. Thanx! :-)
-Scott D. Duren (103430.227@compuserve.com)
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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 00:01:41 EST From: FNGX01A@prodigy.com (MR JOHN CAHILLJR) To: Ytsejam@ax.com Subject: I forgot something Message-ID: <096.01311715.FNGX01A@prodigy.com>
A few posts ago someone asked about DT posters, well I have several from the WDADU days. A local Record shop was giving them away with the purchase of the album when it came out, and I scammed four of them. I also recieved one of the I&W posters from Kenny Myung. Hey heres an idea, I should get Kenny to subscribe to the jam. Then he would hate me for life fo getting his mailbox filled with alot of useless stuff. What do you think? After all He graduated with a Comp Sci degree from Stony Brook.
Elen sila lumenn omentilmo, Gandalf
P.S. The digital man still can't play any DT or Rush on bass
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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 00:51:15 -0500 From: augie@unix.asb.com (Heath) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Finally!! Message-ID: <v01510100ad49c814255a@[165.254.128.42]>
Hello jammers!!! This is my first post in what has to be at least a month now. I got really sick of the moderated jam and decided not to even post. Anyway, I love the jam so far. This is the way ytsejam should of always been, unmoderated!
I'm listening to the Malibu show from the Christmas shows right now and at this moment DT is playing the instrumental meledy. Wouldn't it be cool at a concert that instead of playing covers in an instrumental medley to rest Labrie that they should just play one of their instrumental songs? How about ytsejam?? I think that would fit great and I know that everyone hear would love it. Are you reading this Mike Portnoy? I hope you are. We all know that this song is your favorite off WDADU and since it's rereleased it's a good advertisement for sales. Please consider this on your next go around on tour and especially here in the NY area.
What the heck, I haven't posted in awhile so I may as well continue blabbering. I really want to see more of your faces in the irc channel that Skadz set up for us. It really rules!! We've had as many as 16 people there at one time! There are times when there is no one in there. If you do show up and no one is in there, just stay in there and wait. Normally within 10-15 minutes someone will show up. Once one person is in there, a chain reaction starts and people flock in, in bunches. Anyway, I hope to see everyone in the server irc.dreamt.org 2112 really soon. I'll be there under the name Augie.
The Electric Version of The Silent Man Rules!!!!!!! Please Portnoy or anyone else from DT reading this, rerecord the song but play it the way you did at the concerts. It ruled! That song would be wonders for you. It has huge potential for a pop song.
I've had enough for now. I hope everyone is doing alright. I'll speak to you all soon in here again. And I'll hopefully see you guys in irc really soon.
Later
Heath Augustover
P.S. BAFU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 23:50:13 EST From: FNGX01A@prodigy.com (MR JOHN CAHILLJR) To: Ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Gandalf speaks Message-ID: <096.01310749.FNGX01A@prodigy.com>
What's up fellow jammers? My first post on the new jam and there is so much to say. First things first. It's late Thursday night in New York and I just finished watching E.R. During commercials I turned on the Ranger game ( relax I'm really an Islander fan ) and what do I hear over the Garden's P.A. but " The Mirror ". I could not believe my ears. The TV audience could not hear it well but I'm sure the crowd heard it just fine. Who knows maybe it will inspire some new fans. I think that all sporting events should play DT at sometime or another. I just thought some of you might find that kind of cool, I did. The digital man ( or boy as he is known to me and the Mojoman ) still should be stuffed into a box and made to listen to songs such as " Life to lead, Kick it over ( which the drumming was incredible on ) and Page 32 " , then maybe he will appreciate what I did for him by getting him into Dream Theater.
Lastly I would like to comment on Iron Maiden. They were a great band who influenced a great many people, but as they say " All good things come to an end " and " they " were correct. Unfortunate for us Maiden came to an end when Adrian Smith left the band. Nicko still rules though, and I owe the fact that I play drums to him and him alone.
Elen sila lumenn omentilmo, Gandalf
P.S. I think Mark Zonder is still with Fates Warning. If I'm wrong please correct me.
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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 00:58:22 -0500 (EST) From: Kevin Rios <krios@suffolk.lib.ny.us> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Old DT show Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960216004614.17041A-100000@scls1>
Hello all, Does anyone have a recording of an old Sundance (R.I.P.) show from June 9th 1990, When Dream Theater opened up for Marillion? My brother saw the show and said that someone came on stage and sang a few songs with the band (at the time they were touring instrumental). I would really like to know who the singer was and if there is a tape avaliable. To all the people who have been fans since the begining (I'm sure that's the majority of you) you can understand how much I want to get my hands on this tape (if it exists). It's great to see how many people out there appreciate the music that I do. Keep it up.
Kev
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 22:03:50 -0800 From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Items if inconsequence (VRTDTC) Message-ID: <199602160603.WAA06630@cats.ucsc.edu>
>Men: have you ever encountered DT-lust in women?
Erm, well, I made out once to NIN The Downward Spiral followed by Awake, and it got her into DT. Things didn't work out, tho as she has a boyfriend and I'm not too into being "the other guy" -- even if it is an "open" relationship.
Thanks for letting me share that. I feel closer to you all now. :)
And, I saw Frank Aresti Lust at the DT/FW show in SF... :) (hi folks!)
>>BTW, even if they do drugs, so what? some of the greatest musicians do rugs. > ^^^^ >What?!?! I'm not even gonna go there! :^)
I did nome NyQuil (I love you, you big fucking Q) the other night, and now I have a hangover. :P I felt like I was doing the rug, the ceiling, my bed, etc.
P.S. Ytse-Ben is nuts, and Bafu is Bafu.
P.P.S. ( = Vaguely Related To Dream Theater Content) __ /\ __ __\/__\/__ \_||_/ ~Chris /__||__\ // \ | \\ \|
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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 00:15:26 EST From: KTYA28B@prodigy.com (MS DEBBIE M VESTAL) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Dixie Dregs... Message-ID: <096.01312710.KTYA28B@prodigy.com>
>Does anyone know what Steve Morse is doing now? I SECOND THAT MOTION!!!!!
>Do Dixie Dregs still exist?What's their good albums? As far as I know, they broke up years ago...though I would love to find out I'm wrong!!! I think that NIGHT OF THE LIVING DREGS is a classic...it might also be the easiest to find.
Cat
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 22:09:13 PST From: drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: tape tree? Message-ID: <199602160609.WAA07092@netcom2.netcom.com>
On the Eve of Destruction, Brian Cox said: >i just wanted to encourage those of you that have recieved your >12/29/95 tape to post reviews, good, bad, ugly, or otherwise. i >welcome all critiques of the recording, the means by which it was >distributed, how the tape tree thing can be improved, etc. i am >planning on doing another one of the shows next, so helpful criticism >might make the next one run more smoothly. > >
Man, one word... it fuckin sucks!!! NO... just kidding... heheheh :)
The recording is good... sounds like Core Sounds alright... The tapes came out fast... cool... It'll be interesting to hear the other shows...
-The Doc
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 23:14:01 -0700 (MST) From: BERTAPELLE ADAM RAYE <bertapel@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Extreme fan? Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960215231151.10495B-100000@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
Speaking of Extreme (yes, I am a HUGE fan!), does anybody out there collect Extreme bootlegs? I have very few, but would love to trade to expand my Extreme collection. BTW- I saw them on the III Sides tour (with the Heavy Metal Horn Section) and most recently on the Puchline tour. The new drummer is AWESOME!!! Ranks up there with Mike Portnoy IMHO (yea! Some DT content! -adam
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