YTSEJAM Digest 1265
Today's Topics:
1) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 02/16/96 - 17:15:52" <response@ibmmail.com>
2) fanzine and stuff
by Maraya007@aol.com
3) malibu
by kristopher long <long16@matrix.newpaltz.edu>
4) DT sex symbols
by "E. Waldron" <EWALDRON@RGSPS.WPO.UKANS.EDU>
5) Re: DT sex symbols
by "Greg \"Big Brother\" Lee" <greg@aix.can.ibm.com>
6) Japan PPV and other things
by psifire@netcom.com (Mathew W. Yee)
7) other bands
by aar1@cornell.edu (Alexis A. Ramos)
8) DT as sex symbols
by Ernesto Schnack <ernie@ns1.pananet.com>
9) saga
by "mike.krimmer" <we0373@wepco.com>
10) Paradise Lost and other bullspit
by Antti Nyrhinen <antnyr@opal.tnkpub.utu.fi>
11) Sad Story
by bda109@psu.edu (Brian Anderson)
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1263
by "Ytse' Jim" <jlutz@hartford.edu>
13) wdatu and sexual desire for members of dt
by WildKoba@aol.com
14) A Kick Into A Dream
by BIORDI Bruno <biorb@donald.interpac.be>
15) ATTN: Leaves on Scott Cook's limb
by Skooc@aol.com
16) Lord of the Fries
by Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
17) no more emails please
by andy@missiontech.com (Andy Chen)
18) Birch Hill tapes
by m_washke@acad.lvc.edu
19) XFactor comments
by "Ryan D. Eschauzier" <rdesc@conncoll.edu>
20) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1263
by Ernesto Schnack <ernie@ns1.pananet.com>
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 12:16:32 EST
From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 02/16/96 - 17:15:52" <response@ibmmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mail Item Format Warning
Message-ID: <199602161717.JAA24516@mindcrime.ax.com>
The mail item that you sent at 17:16:05 GMT on 16 Feb 1996 has been delivered.
However, it has been necessary to convert this item into a
format that is acceptable to the recipient, FITIPMOL at IBMMAIL.
Information beyond column 79 in the mail item will have been wrapped.
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 12:40:45 -0500
From: Maraya007@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: fanzine and stuff
Message-ID: <960216124044_223777259@emout05.mail.aol.com>
Yes, I've been down incognito for a while, but the Dragon has resurfaced, if
only temporarily. Sometimes I feel like I'm living at a bar that has a
$17,000 cover charge. ;)
The fanzine is kinda sorta on hiatus. For one, I haven't been getting many
submissions, and I'm not going to print a five-page issue for my second
anniversary, which is about all I've got right now. Secondly, my ^$#!@&
printer needs a new cartridge, and black inkjet cartridges are practically
nonexistent in all of Hampton Roads, as I discovered the last time I ran out.
So, until I get a new one and until a few more of you take pity on me and
send me some cool stuff to print, it's on hold. Hopefully for not much
longer...
For the benefit of the new blood who have no idea what the hell I'm talking
about, I publish a Dream Theater/prog/power metal fanzine, I've got sanction
from the band and all that fun stuff - they all get copies (and they DO get
them and read them, I assure you!), so here's your chance to put your
writings for them to see. :D I'm pretty liberal as to what I put in the
'zine - photos (.jpgs of the band and whatnot are MOST welcome!), CD and live
show reviews, criticisms, grovellings, you name it - about not only DT, but
any cool underground prog/power metal bands, and I do like to emphasize the
underground. If you've got ideas or anything you want to contribute, email
me, puh-LEEZE! If you're concerned about being a bad speller or something
like that, don't worry - I'm an editor, that's my job. ;)
Jaime the Dragon, the BONA FIDE Absolut Idiot (esp. Cintron) - everyone else
is a fake. <G>
"parched with thirst am I and dying
nay, drink of me, the ever-flowing spring..."
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 13:13:25 -0500 (EST)
From: kristopher long <long16@matrix.newpaltz.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: malibu
Message-ID: <199602161813.NAA10031@matrix.newpaltz.edu>
does anybody know how I can get a bootleg of the Malibu show? I want to see
if I can hear myself screaming because I was right next to Mike Bahr when he
was recording it. the more i listen to space dye vest the more i think that
the other voice might be andy richter. at first i didn't think so but now i
think it might be. maybe it's that big ostrich or the nbc peacock, those
guys rule. about that cigarette business, if i remember correctly derek had
a butt in his mouth as he was playing at the malibu show. tune in tomorrow,
same ytse-time, same ytse-channel.
---Kris Long
"Apology accepted, Captain Needa."
---Darth Vader
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 12:14:21 -0600
From: "E. Waldron" <EWALDRON@RGSPS.WPO.UKANS.EDU>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT sex symbols
Message-ID: <s1247536.019@POBOX.CC.UKANS.EDU>
in response to Scott's post about women being attracted to the men in DT,
well yes. personally i think John P is HOT, but he's married and has 2
kids, in other words DON'T TOUCH. But finding someone attractive and
actually doing something about it are two different things. Yes i find
some of them attractive, but i would never do anything about it especially
since they're taken already. But as for them "being above" being seen as
sex symbols, are you nuts? Being that talented makes them more attractive,
not less attractive.
Just my opinion, i by no means speak for the rest of the women on the 'jam.
elise
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 13:31:30 -0500 (EST)
From: "Greg \"Big Brother\" Lee" <greg@aix.can.ibm.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: DT sex symbols
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.960216132549.54082A@hal.mkm.aix.can.ibm.com>
Well, my fiancee thinks that James looks like a goof trying to look
sexy in photos or videos.
James, if you are watching...I have to agree...just look mean and cool!
You are married and have no reason to impress any other woman with anything
but your amazing vocal talent!
Actually, she thought the only one with reasonable looks was Kevin, and now
he is gone...I'm okay with that though, 'cause DT still rocks like no
other...
Greg.
P.S...If James LaBrie wants to swill a few brewski's back with a Toronto
local...let me know! -- Yeah, as if eh?
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 11:32:58 -0800
From: psifire@netcom.com (Mathew W. Yee)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Japan PPV and other things
Message-ID: <199602161932.LAA17684@netcom10.netcom.com>
[Lurking device off]
First off, I wanna thank Scott Cook for getting a copy of the Japan PPV
show to me. It's an incredible show, and the tape has full Dolby
surround sound on it. In a word, awesome. :)
Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu> writes:
>How about a Ytsedesign "Space-Dye Vest?
I thought that this was sold a while back in a LL Bean catalog. Someone
mentioned running across a "Space-Dye" shirt, or some such item.
Scott Daugherty <SRDAUGZ2@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU> writes:
>>BTW, even if they do drugs, so what? some of the greatest musicians do rugs.
> ^^^^
>What?!?! I'm not even gonna go there! :^)
Hehehe.....chicken. ;)
>From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 02/16/96 - 05:15:49" <response@ibmmail.com>
To the powers that be: strip this address out of the list. It was funny
once, but sucks now.
--
!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#
^
Mathew W. Yee & "Love is not just a passing word
* It's a state of heart that goes on forever."
psifire@netcom.com !
@ _A Change of Season_
CAA E-mail Administrator # Dream Theater
$
!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 15:26:11 +0100
From: aar1@cornell.edu (Alexis A. Ramos)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: other bands
Message-ID: <v02120001ad4a41838da6@[132.236.176.64]>
I just got the CDs "Streets- a rock opera" by Savatage and "Damn the
Machine" by DTM and I just wanted to say that my expectations for these
were totally the opposite of what I thought. Damn the Machine is DAMN GOOD
when I thought that it was going to suck. I expected a lot more from
Savatage, but it didn't turn out to be as progressive (at least relative to
my opinion of progressive) as I thought it would be. Is Dead Winter Dead
similar to Streets? Does Damn the Machine have any other CDs? Oh, and
could anybody describe for me what King's X sounds like? I've only heard
one of their songs ("Black Flag", b/c I've seen the video), and I didn't
like it that much (this was a long time ago, too). C-ya.
"Hey baby, wanna wrestle?" Butthead
Alexis
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 96 20:38:36 +0000 (GMT)
From: Ernesto Schnack <ernie@ns1.pananet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT as sex symbols
Message-ID: <199602162034.MAA27428@mindcrime.ax.com>
>Cliff's Notes version:
>Women: do you see anyone DT as sexy?
>Men: have you ever encountered DT-lust in women?
>
>
Well besides the fact that my friends and I joke around that LaBrie is
Fabio's long lost twin, a girl once told me that she fell in love w/
LaBrie's voice after hearing AD... that's the closest I've seen a girl to
finding DT as sex symbols...
PROCRASTINATION: It's a way of life!
This message brought to you by the PTP foundation(Proud to Procrastinate). A
non- profit organization dedicated to waiting for tomorrow to support
procrastination.
Ernie ernie@mail.pananet.com
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 14:48:40 -0600 (CST)
From: "mike.krimmer" <we0373@wepco.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: saga
Message-ID: <199602162048.OAA27604@wepco.com>
Hello fellow jammers I read on the saga homepage that they were going to
be touring with dt starting in February. If anyone has any imfo on this
could you write me /or put it on the list.
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 22:55:52 +0200 (GMT+0200)
From: Antti Nyrhinen <antnyr@opal.tnkpub.utu.fi>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Paradise Lost and other bullspit
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.91.960216224802.259A-100000@opal.tnkpub.utu.fi>
Ok, time for MY first post on the new 'jam. Save this one for the
recordbooks.
First of all, there has been discussion on Paradise Lost lately
and I decided to give my two cents on the subject..
Karri got the discography correct, except that Gothic was their
second and Shades of God third, not the other way around.
I have Gothic, Shades of God, and Icon. My order of preference
is the same. I didn't bother to buy the new Draconian Times since
for me they are like Metallica, and they've sold out after making
some excellent music.
Gothic has a relatively sucky production, the vocals are growling
spiced with female singing every now and then. Shades of God isn't
as solemn but it has a couple of great tracks. Icon has catchy
tunes but as a whole it is disappointing.
I saw them live last summer, they weren't very good.
So, I like Gothic but that's just me, I assume death metal doesn't
have too many fans on the list.. I listen to it a lot, and
lately I've gotten interested in the Norwegian black metal scene too.
Not for the message, but for the music. It's quite extreme, but
it has beautiful Northern qualities :)
Now for something completely different..
I want to express my deepest condolences to Mike Bahr for the loss
of his cat. I've got two cats, they're entertaining and lovable
little furballs.
Later all,
Antti (now listening to Burzum)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Antti Nyrhinen Amiraalistonkatu 5 C 7
antnyr@opal.utu.fi (preferred) 20100 Turku
nyrhinen@netti.fi Finland
-<>- Habs-Dream Theater-Pantera-Sentenced-Carcass-TPS-Floorball -<>-
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 15:03:47 -0500
From: bda109@psu.edu (Brian Anderson)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Sad Story
Message-ID: <199602162104.QAA123288@r05n01.cac.psu.edu>
Hello to the new jam,
Had to tell somebody . . .
My car was broken into last weekend. I lost about $2000 worth of
stereo equipment. And
you know what the worst part was? My Acoustic Dreams
(#200something) was in my CD changer at the time. Needless
to say, I was a little upset about losing everything, especially
the AD. Did I mention my car had an alarm on it? Oh well, I
should be able to replace most
of the stuff with insurance money . . . except the AD. sniff,
sniff. [Bafu, got any tissues left?]
-Brian
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 16:46:16 -0500 (EST)
From: "Ytse' Jim" <jlutz@hartford.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1263
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960216163615.11487C@morpheus>
The italian guy said (in re: Mark)(in re: Iron Maiden):
>I'm Italian and,of course, my mother tongue is Italian not English! This is
>real --racism--!!!
It's racism because you don't speak english very well?
I don't think he ever mentioned anything about your race..
>I really invite the Ytsejam owner to exclude him from the Jam for always cos
>these people are exactly opposite to the Ytsejam principles and very very
>close minded.
I think it would be closed minded to kick him off for voicing his opinion.
(although it WAS kinda harsh). Should we kick YOU off for bringing up
an irrelevant topic and then continuing the thread?
Just get over it, people will say some pretty nasty things...it doesn't
mean you have to listen.(or read in this case)
Another Reminder:
Dream Theater IRC :
irc.dreamt.org 2112
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
; Ytse' Jim : Kickstart and turn me over, ;
; YtseJim@dreamt.org : Punchdrunk, but I'm still sober, ;
; lutz@uhavax.hartford.edu : Fourteen years and a whole lot bolder, ;
; jlutz@morpheus.hartford.edu : And I don't flinch.... ;
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 17:59:52 -0500
From: WildKoba@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: wdatu and sexual desire for members of dt
Message-ID: <960216175951_424452902@mail06.mail.aol.com>
hello there, it's THE WILD KOBA.
a tip of the hat in salutation to masters benenati (mojoman) and cahill, jr.
ahh, how i wish i had a vintage dt poster to boot. lucky bastard.
anyways, some observations i'd like to say about some things said around here
lately.
well, i'm sitting here listening to wdatu (it's been about 3 weeks), and i
realize that i have gained a new appreciation for these songs. and am i the
only fool who likes the "status seeker" on this cd?? i like how they
transposed it to c# minor (from d minor). nice open chords, and just real fun
to play. and kevin's solo at the beginning.......
that's a topic for later!
but yeah, it is way cool, and once again, mr. bahr, thank you again.
now, about that other topic.....
yeah, i get so hot when john myung plays that bass, that i masturbate
furiously against a stucco wall for 3 days.
NO!!!!! WAIT!!!!!!! WHAT AM I SAYING??
jeez- watch, now i get questions of my sexuality soon. anyways, what i MEANT
to say was that i find it bizarre that there are folks seriously (or as much
as possible) the possibility of dt members as objects of sexual desire. face
it, they're ugly!! the only thing that makes petrucci so attractive is that
guitar. and what about mike porntoy?? who would ever want to kiss a bearded,
uncouth individual like THAT??
my, my- what ever happened to the days when CC DEVILLE was a boy toy?? or
MILLI VANILLI (anyone hear the latest news on one of them- arrested for
attempted carjacking; "attenpted" because the owner of the car clocked him
with a baseball bat!), for that matter? why doesn;t anyone think FRANK ZAPPA
is beautiful??
AHH, I HATE YOU ALL!
<<disclaimer- no, i am not homosexual, nor do i hate anyone here (yet), nor
am i making fun of anyone talking this. i just find it humorous and decided
to take some liberty and some cracks at it. also, i should point that the
only thing that makes ME beautiful is a guitar wrapped around me, and i have
the "abraham lincoln" look going on my face. also, frank zappa is also an
ugly motherfucker.
BUT, that myung thing.......oops. kidding.
so like, peace out, y'all and check ya later.
love, and visions of bafu vai as the nude guy shot out of the water on the
cover of the pink floyd box set,
david, the thousandth lawyer kobayashi
ps- eat fish twice a week!
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 01:15:25 +0100 (MET)
From: BIORDI Bruno <biorb@donald.interpac.be>
To: YTSEJAM@ax.com
Subject: A Kick Into A Dream
Message-ID: <199602170015.BAA03201@donald.interpac.be>
Hi YtseFriends,
Just a non-DT question : YtseJam is GR8T, but is there others
reviews (exept METROPOLIS) on internet about EXTREME, MEGADETH, or MALMSTEEN
by example ? Can ya gimme the way to receive them ?
Okey, I've a lot of DT Interview in French. I've already posted some
of them on the jam (last one on the digest 1258). But some of them are old !
Do you want to read them anyway ? Leave me mail if you're interested at
biorb@mail.interpac.be
I'm listening a very cool Bootleg : DREAM THEATER 'A Kick Into A
Dream' in 2CD. ref: Produced by WHY NOT ? s.r.l. on the METAL CRASH label
(Italy) No MECD2186. It's captured alive at the Manhattan Center, New York
City on october the 28th, 1994.
Here's the track list : CD 1 : Intro/Pull Me Under, 6.00 , Take The Time,
Caugh In A Web (+ the famous Portnoy's Solo 'ohhhhhhhhhhh, let's get ready
to...'), Lifting Shadows Off A Dream, The Ones Who Help To Set The Sun.
CD 2 : The Mirror, Lies, Another Day, Erotomania,
Voices, The Silent Man, Metropolis.
The quality is good, not like the 'Skyway of nightmares' by exemple !
OKey, Now it's time to say goodbye !
Bruno (biorb@mail.interpac.be)
P.S: Have fun with :
Dave 'The Snake' SABO from SKID ROW : MrSnake16@aol.com
Sebastian BACH from SKID ROW : BACHOFFB4@aol.com
Dave MUSTAINE from MEGADETH : robgraves@aol.com
Tommy LEE from MOTLEY CREW : TBONEOO@aol.com
Nikki SIX from MOTLEY CREW : SIXXDOG@aol.com
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 19:22:32 -0500
From: Skooc@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: ATTN: Leaves on Scott Cook's limb
Message-ID: <960216192231_424518858@emout08.mail.aol.com>
I got an email from teh person who is doing my dub of the 12-29 Birch Hill
show. He said I should have my tapes in about two weeks. The sooner I get
your tapes the sooner I'll be able to get them back to you. This was posted
to the jam because I don't have a list of the people I'm doing dubs for (Oh,
I forgot the Furher isn't moderating so I don't need to justify my posts).
Hope to hear from y'all soon.
Scott Cook
"P-A-R-T-WHY? Because I GOTTA ! ! !"
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 17:56:54 -0700
From: Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Lord of the Fries
Message-ID: <199602170056.RAA02424@maple.enet.net>
>> Look, we're on our own here. Sort of like _Lord of the Flies_.
>
>So pass the conch already. Who's going to keep the signal-fire going?
>
/me puts a pigs head on a stick and puts it in the ground next to a dark cave.
The name's Ben....Ytse Ben.
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 96 18:46 PST
From: andy@missiontech.com (Andy Chen)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: no more emails please
Message-ID: <m0tncez-000UyzC@mailhub.cts.com>
Please take my name off distribution list.
andy@missiontech.com and andy@cts.com
thanks
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 19:14:32 -0800
From: m_washke@acad.lvc.edu
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Birch Hill tapes
Message-ID: <199602170314.TAA01121@mindcrime.ax.com>
I don't post often, but since I received my copies of the Birch Hill
show, I figured I would give my opinion. They sound very good for an
audience recording, but it is bass heavy like someone else posted. That's
understandable though because of the recording environment. I am quite happy
with the results. In fact, I am dubbing them for the tree and ACOS is just
ending now. Someone had complained about the extensive audience noise but I
think its great. I still laugh when I hear James ask "why the fuck did I
come?" when he could not sing over the crowd in Take The Time. I was
fortunate enough to be there and I remember killing my throat to sing as
loud as possible with everyone else. It ruled! My only suggestion is for
Brian to send the j-cards along instead of us pulling them off the net. Its
a pain in the ass when I am as computer iliterate as I am. we could just
pass them along and photo copy them.
Anyway, the new list rules, and when I get a chance to catch up on
the posts, I'm having a blast reading them. I am also still anxiously
awaiting my YtseJam shirt and Antiquities. Call me impatient. I have key
access to where our mail here in my dorm is stored when it first comes in,
and I have been looking for my stuff in it before its sorted. Oh yeah-
there's been alot of talk about Extreme recently and I think thats great. I
happen to be subscribed to their list, but its nowhere near as cool as the
jam. If you are interested in the address to subscribe, just let me know.
Anyone here fans of Al DiMeola, Michael Hedges, Return to Forever, or Into
Another? Write or post and let me know.
Mike Washkevich
"I never saw a U-haul being pulled behind a hearse." Extreme
Whoever posted about death metal should check out an album called Dimensions
by Believer. They are on Roadrunner. They are very progressive (in fact its
the most progressive death I've ever heard) but they are also Christian, and
they have a string section and a soprano playing with them. Its worth
checking out.
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 22:20:18 -0500 (EST)
From: "Ryan D. Eschauzier" <rdesc@conncoll.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: XFactor comments
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9602162229.A2768-0100000@dsys.cc.conncoll.edu>
I think it is really annoying when people go quoting everyone and then
picking apart their every word....but I can skip through it, like I hope
most of us do, because insulting one another certainly does not help us
further our knowledge of progressive rock/metal in any way.
2112 * 2112 * 2112 * 2112 * 2112 * 2112 * 2112 * 2112 * 2112 * 2112 * 2112 *
******************************************************************************
"A Bridge is not a high place "Stealthily Attacking
The fifty second floor By-Tor slays his foe
Icarus would know The men are free to run now
A mountain isn't far to fall In the labyrinth below"
When you've fallen from the moon."
-Steve Hogarth -Neil Peart
******************************************************************************
rdesc@conncoll.edu Ryan Eschauzier '97 (860) 439-4085
Connecticut College
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 96 04:29:05 +0000 (GMT)
From: Ernesto Schnack <ernie@ns1.pananet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1263
Message-ID: <199602170425.UAA01730@mindcrime.ax.com>
>
>Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 01:48:00 -0500
>From: myung@DREAM.THEATER.com
>Message-ID: <199602160648.BAA08380@andrew.cmu.edu>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Hmmmmmmmmm....odd isn't it?
PROCRASTINATION: It's a way of life!
This message brought to you by the PTP foundation(Proud to Procrastinate). A
non- profit organization dedicated to waiting for tomorrow to support
procrastination.
Ernie ernie@mail.pananet.com
------------------------------
End of YTSEJAM Digest 1265
**************************
This archive was generated by hypermail 2b30 : Thu Apr 01 2004 - 17:55:15 EST