YTSEJAM Digest 1280
Today's Topics:
1) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 02/21/96 - 04:04:41" <response@ibmmail.com>
2) tape tree URL & misc comments
by John Jens <jjens@portal.gmu.edu>
3) Hmm... What's wrong with this picture?
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
4) READ THIS!!!
by "The Doctor" <MICHAEL-RAY@Augustana.edu> (by way of rhsalsa <rhsalsa@mail.mcn.org>)
5) Mike's feet
by FNGX01A@prodigy.com (MR JOHN CAHILLJR)
6) WARNING!!
by John Cummings <cummings@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca>
7) IRON MAIDEN (NYC show).....Amazing!!!!
by fates@ix.netcom.com (Carlo D'Angelo )
8) Covering Dream Theater bit by bit...
by "The Great Wally Llama." <wdlehmku@hilltop.ic.edu>
9) birch hill tapes distribution
by Brian Cox <lerxst@metronet.com>
10) Re: Glass Hammer
by SIONELL463@aol.com
11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1279
by Dave <buster@ee.net>
12) stuff
by WildKoba@aol.com
13) Re: Hmm... What's wrong with this picture?
by Elliott Kim <ekim01@fiu.edu>
14) Re: Mike's feet
by drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh)
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 23:05:17 EST
From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 02/21/96 - 04:04:41" <response@ibmmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mail Item Format Warning
Message-ID: <199602210405.UAA17510@mindcrime.ax.com>
The mail item that you sent at 04:05:11 GMT on 21 Feb 1996 has been delivered.
However, it has been necessary to convert this item into a
format that is acceptable to the recipient, FITIPMOL at IBMMAIL.
Information beyond column 79 in the mail item will have been wrapped.
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 23:11:23 -0500 (EST)
From: John Jens <jjens@portal.gmu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: tape tree URL & misc comments
Message-ID: <199602210411.XAA16500@reactor.site.gmu.edu>
howdy 'Jammers!
i feel like a virgin again...posting for the first time to the new list :)
anyway, what was the URL for the Birch Hill tape tree thingy? disk
crash------->lost all my shit--->sux bigtime--->oh well
DT openin for Rush: i never got into Rush (yes, blasphemy, i know).
ummm...hmmm...the Actifed is kickin' in real good now %) everything's
starting to blur together. who knew having a cold could be so much fun? hehehe
ok, i'm done now b4 i get too weird.
-john
j o h n j j e n s @ g m u . e d u
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s h t t p : / / w w w . s i t e . g m u . e d u / ~ j j e n s /
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 23:19:35 -0500 (EST)
From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Hmm... What's wrong with this picture?
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9602202347.A24410-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
First was...
> From: kurt@fgallery.com
> Subject: YO
>
> Hey..i would just like to say that Puerto Rico Sucks because ill mever
> be able to se Dream Theater Live .(even thou were US territory) (and
> believe me ..theres a decent Dt following here..also i would like to say
..and then...
> From: kurt@fgallery.com
> Subject: Hello (Hola)
>
> Hey..i read your post on the jam..cool..we both have the Same
> problem..you live in Panama,i live in Puerto Rico,well never get to see
> Dream Theater live..and you say your first real concert experience was
Anyone else see something, er, weird going on here?
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 20:59:10 -0800 (PST)
From: "The Doctor" <MICHAEL-RAY@Augustana.edu> (by way of rhsalsa <rhsalsa@mail.mcn.org>)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: READ THIS!!!
Message-ID: <199602210459.UAA28902@mail.mcn.org>
To whoever may read this,
This is not a typical chain letter, in that by passing it on to as
many people as you can, you are taking part in what may yet become
the world's biggest practical joke. The U.S. Government has recently
passed an act which enforces censorship on the internet. A group of
internet users has now come together to kick back at this
oppression, and have a bit of fun at the same time. The aim of this
exercise is to re-establish the United States as "The land of the
Free", not a fascist state where freedom of speech and thought are
curtailed. Communist Russia fell as a result of such limits being
placed upon the minds of the general populus. On receiving this
letter, please pass it on to as many friends or E-mail lists as you
can. We predict that if everybody copies the letter to 5 other
addresses, by February 29th 1996, this letter should have reached in
excess of 2 million people. That's when the fun begins........ On
February 29th, please send the message:
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Dear Mr. President,
Do you remember this:
And afterwards enclose the pre-typed copy of the Bill of rights. By
sending the letter on the date above, you will contribute to either
one huge petition for freedom, or else lead to a crash of the
whitehouse server.Send all letters to:
President@Whitehouse.gov
Remember that solidarity is the key to success
THE BILL OF RIGHTS
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 00:10:09 EST
From: FNGX01A@prodigy.com (MR JOHN CAHILLJR)
To: Ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mike's feet
Message-ID: <096.01702603.FNGX01A@prodigy.com>
While I tend to agree that Mike is an incredible drummer, he is
human. His " incredible Hi Hat technique " can not be done without
the use of his 3 sets of hats. I know, I've tried. As for the person
that said that Nicko could not hold a candle to Mike ( IMO ) It is
like comparing apple's and oranges. Mike is a twin kick user. Nicko
is not. Mike is a schooled musician who has a very good idea as to
what he is playing at all times. Nicko plays what he feels. Listen to
any IM song and you'll notice the beat has a tendency to flow ( no
click track here ). Mike is more of a machine, but not in a bad way.
I love them both and it's not a fair comparison, different strokes
for different folks. Neil Peart did the tribute album's to Buddy Rich,
and while the idea was great, his playing was not ( IMO ) He is not
a swing type of player at all. He needs disciplined time like Mike.
That is a sacrifice you make when you play that type of Music.
Funny story of the day. I grew up a HUUUGGGEEE Maiden fan.
My parents hated it. Tuesday afternoon on the New Jersey TNPK they
stop at a rest stop and who do they have the gall to meet? Yeah, you
guessed it, Iron Maiden. Of all the cruel injustices in the world.
P.S. Thanks to the people who responded to my request for help on
My J.R.R Tolkien trivia book. Anyone else who wants to help, feel
free to e-mail me.
Elen sila lumenn omentilmo, Gandalf
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 22:21:46 -0700 (MST)
From: John Cummings <cummings@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: WARNING!!
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.960220220335.78422C-100000@gpu4.srv.ualberta.ca>
I just read my email after 5 days... 15 Jams?
I only got through about 9 of them before my eyes got so blurry I
couldn't see anymore (or type for that matter).
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== WARNING!! ==
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== After extensive research and testing ==
== upon engineering physics students at ==
== the University of Alberta, it has been ==
== concluded that reading more than five ==
== 'jams per day while under the influence==
== of Dream Theater's music may be harmful==
== for your health and sanity. ==
== Most notably affected: ==
== 1) Forehead from smashing into CRT ==
== screen from laughing. ==
== 2) Liver from testing out various ==
== posts ==
== Any other effects should be mailed ==
== without hesitation to the above ==
== address. ==
=============================================
== Please proceed with extreme caution. ==
=============================================
P.S. Are there many other DT fans at the U of A?
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 21:21:31 -0800
From: fates@ix.netcom.com (Carlo D'Angelo )
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: IRON MAIDEN (NYC show).....Amazing!!!!
Message-ID: <199602210521.VAA27347@ix12.ix.netcom.com>
Being that this was my first time seeing Maiden. I've been into em
since '89 but couldnt see them cause the show was on a school night or
some stupid shit like that. ANYWAY.....Maiden totally kicked ass in
NYC!!!!!!! Blaze totally impressed the hell out of me (also a nice
touch when he mentioned how diehard fans like us could sellout the
venue in a blizzard without the support of radio or TV airplay!) ..much
better than the album and a GREAT frontman..pointed to me in the front
row of the upper balcony and I made this psychotic face while pumping
my hands and he gave me a thumbs up..COOL!!!!
Was it me but did Nicko add tons of double bass here and there along
wwith awesome ride patterns I've never noticed...everything was so
crisp live.....Nicko never sounded so good...totally blew my ass away.
Especially when he added all that double bass to the last half of "Iron
Maiden"...FUCKING AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dave and Steve were on top of everything...totally clean playing with
great chops..Steve's little intro solo was amazing (seemed faster
too...and NO PICK!) Didnt notice Janick's playing too much cause he
went a little overboard with the stage antics..but hey..its Maiden and
there's no stopping em!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All I have to say is DO NOT MISS THIS TOUR......show your support so
these dumbass promoters will allow them to play bigger venues so we can
have a visit from Eddie!!!!
cheers,
Carlo
UP THE IRONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
-- | [] | |] | ******* ** | [] | |] | "For one flickering moment, he seemed to catch | [| an image, one he found both exciting and disturbing: | [] | |] | an enormous tower constructed of dark and sooty ****** ** ** stone, standing in a field of red roses. Slit ** **** ** windows twisted up its sides in a brooding spiral." |] | | [| | [] | "Go then, there are other worlds than these." |] | ** *** *** ** --Stephen King ** **** **** (The Gunslinger: Dark Tower series)------------------------------
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 23:27:36 -0600 (CST) From: "The Great Wally Llama." <wdlehmku@hilltop.ic.edu> To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Covering Dream Theater bit by bit... Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.960220232648.20680B-100000@hilltop.ic.edu>
Someone (was it you, Ben L.?) posted about a drummer recording MP's parts and then shipping them to someone else for guitar,etc....This is very possible! We could do like a tribute compilation to DT! All you need is the drive to do it! You see, I'm also on the Van Halen Digest (although I do keep my feelings to myself when I hear the acheivements of EVH get belittled) and "we" are doing something similar to what you have suggested. First of all, I must say that we are doing everything legal, and I hope it's nobody's intent to use this info in a destructive manner. In fact, you can check out the details of "The God Forsaken Magic Frog's" web page at http://www.geopages.com/Paris/1549 Anyway, I'd love to do something like this for DT, maybe even make a copy for the boys.....You do need someone with a lot of time on their hands and the will to organize it, I have limited time(college) but am more than willing to help with organizing and getting the ball rolling. We would also need things like an ADAT machine or maybe even free (or cheap) studio access to help with mixing and sound quality. Personally, Van Halen has got wind of the project and think it is very flattering(as the VH fans boast with pride); so I'm pretty sure it wouldn't offend DT.... Please e-mail me if you are interested, I'll take a headcount and if we get enough interest then I'll start getting it underway.
Include in your post something like...
Name: Devon Lehmkuhl E-mail: wdlehmku@hilltop.ic.edu Instrument: Drums Recording: 4-track, 8-track, DAT machine (what you have access to)
It doesn't really matter what you record on as long as you achieve your desired sound!
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 23:30:31 -0600 (CST) From: Brian Cox <lerxst@metronet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: birch hill tapes distribution Message-ID: <199602210530.AA21640@metronet.com>
i have had people ask me if it is ok to copy the birch hill tapes for other people or to make their own custom j-cards to send to people. i dont care. it is a bootleg tape, it's not like i have any right to say what people do with it :)
if people ask you for a copy, do whatever you want, just if you sell it remember that bad karma will be coming your way :)
<><><><><><><><><> Brian V. Cox (lerxst@metronet.com) <><><><><><><><><> <>Rush|Dream Theater|Queensryche|King's X|Echolyn|King Crimson|Voivod><>
"You have to systematically create confusion - it sets creativity free. Everything that is contradictory creates life." -Salvador Dali, 1980
<><><><><><><><><>DAT Taper/Trader - Email me for list<><><><><><><><><> <><><><><><><><><>< http://www.metronet.com/~lerxst/ ><><><><><><><><><>
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 00:46:02 -0500 From: SIONELL463@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Glass Hammer Message-ID: <960221004601_227418578@mail02.mail.aol.com>
::: de-lurking :) :::
Ryan writes:
> If you've been keeping up on your Progressive Trivia, some of >you should have heard of a group called Glass Hammer. I still >have yet to hear them, much less find a cd of theirs in the store, >so I want to know HOW TO FIND THEM! They have 2 cd's out, >Journey of the Dunadan (I think that's correct) and Perelandra. >Their web page was great, but I don't believe it's up and running >any more. If anyony has anyinformation, post for all to see. > I'm super curious about this band. Thanks.
I got _Journey of the Dunadan_ from Firebird Music (800) 752-0494
It's pretty cool... the sound reminds me a little of Yes (though there's a lot of spoken word on it... ).
And their _Rivendell_ doesn't sound anything like Rush's song of the same name... If you like somewhat mellow stuff (or Lord of the Rings :), definitely check it out!
Regarding _Perelandra_: it's not listed in the Firebird catalog, but mine's about a year old, so who knows...
Anna
"Life is no more assuring than love"
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 00:51:11 -0500 From: Dave <buster@ee.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1279 Message-ID: <199602210551.AAA23874@mail.ee.net>
ate: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 22:54:24 -0400 >From: kurt@fgallery.com >To: ytsejam@ax.com >Subject: Hello (Hola)
.and you say your first real concert experience was >Soda Stereo..well mine is going to be Mana. :) ive seen bands here..but >only in pubs and in hard rock cafe..i hope i can ever see DT! kick asss. >some cool bands come here..like metallica (once) and Aerosmith..but i >guess Dream Theater never will ): If you speak Spanish (i guess you do) >tell me.. Dt fans are like few..but proud!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > Carlos > --- --- --- kurt@fgallery.com > - | | | -
I can't believe Soda Stereo is actually mentioned in a post on the Jam! I used to play/tour in a band with Pappo Nopalitano from Argentina. Do you know who I'm talking about? Anyway, that's how I met Soda Stereo....when I was out in LA recording with Pappo, Soda Stereo came up to visit and do a special show at the Palace in Hollywood. I was back stage with Jack Leavitt (Avalon Attractions) and Pappo, and thats when we all hooked up. We took the guys in Soda Stereo to a Denny's for breakfast after a long night of playing and partying. It was hysterical! Here were all these musicians and producers (like 15 of us), only half of us speaking english, all crammed into booths at Denny's in Hollywood at like 3a.m.!! A couple weeks after that we did our last gig in Hollywood at the Troubador (Paul Gilbert and Eric Martin actually went on stage before us!), and flew down to tour in Argentina for a few months. I met up with Soda Stereo once more while down there in Buenos Aires, but at the time I still didn't know much spanish so not much was said:) I was just surpised to see them mentioned here!
Peace, buster@ee.net
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 01:04:01 -0500 From: WildKoba@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: stuff Message-ID: <960221010400_149554204@emout10.mail.aol.com>
man, that scott guy gave me a run for my money with his response about thr tori list.
good work!
dk.
ps- anyone notice that bafu's been really quiet lately???
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 01:31:30 -0500 (EST) From: Elliott Kim <ekim01@fiu.edu> To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Hmm... What's wrong with this picture? Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960221012107.25601C-100000@solix>
> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 23:19:35 -0500 (EST) > From: Christopher R. Merlo <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu> > To: ytsejam@ax.com > Subject: Hmm... What's wrong with this picture? > > First was... > > > From: kurt@fgallery.com > > Subject: YO > > > > Hey..i would just like to say that Puerto Rico Sucks because ill mever > > be able to se Dream Theater Live .(even thou were US territory) (and > > believe me ..theres a decent Dt following here..also i would like to say > > ...and then... > > > From: kurt@fgallery.com > > Subject: Hello (Hola) > > > > Hey..i read your post on the jam..cool..we both have the Same > > problem..you live in Panama,i live in Puerto Rico,well never get to see > > Dream Theater live..and you say your first real concert experience was > > Anyone else see something, er, weird going on here? > Hmmm... The first guy said he was from Puerto Rico. Then the second guy says "i read your post...you live in Panama, i live in Puerto Rico..."
I definitely see something wierd going on here. Time to call the YIA (Ytsejam Intelligence Agency) to investigate...
Elliott Kim Florida International University ekim01@fiu.edu ekim01@servax.fiu.edu
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 22:46:30 PST From: drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Mike's feet Message-ID: <199602210646.WAA26733@netcom22.netcom.com>
Actually... MP does tend to drift on his rhythm timing quite a bit... if you want to hear a machine, listen to any Mark Zonder live recording of Fates Warning... now... that man is a metronome!!!
-The Doc
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