YTSEJAM Digest 1278
Today's Topics:
1) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 02/20/96 - 22:30:01" <response@ibmmail.com>
2) Birch Hill Show!!!
by Kevin Rios <krios@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
3) Japanese ACOS, VAI CD for trade, Kotzen review
by Michael.Bradley@mail.cc.trincoll.edu (Michael Bradley)
4) Eloquency and you.
by Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
5) MacAlpine!
by dneff@maaco.com (David Neff)
6) Kotzenique
by szucseue@saber.udayton.edu
7) another ASU person
by YAP <auhcy@asu.edu>
8) The Tori list, minimal DTC
by Scotch <anthem@virginia.edu>
9) FW, QR and me!
by "Devil's Plaything" <papined@pr.erau.edu>
10) Yes I smoke Crack
by World Wide Web User <www@columbia.edu>
11) Re: FYI
by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
12) Re: another ASU person
by The One Who Helps to Set the Sun <polzin@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu>
13) Re: Yes I smoke Crack
by The One Who Helps to Set the Sun <polzin@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu>
14) Re: Lookin for some drummers to chat with
by david ahlert <ahlert84@matrix.newpaltz.edu>
15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1277
by Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com>
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 18:02:52 -0500 (EST)
From: Kevin Rios <krios@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Birch Hill Show!!!
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960220175854.25636A-100000@scls1>
Hey all, I hear alot of talk about the Birch Hill show tapes. I was
lucky enough to see this show (even though all I could see was Mike P.
due to the many fans) and would like to get my hands on a tape. If anyone
can help me please respond. Oh, did anyone else see the guys from Shadow
Gallery at the show? They were waiting on line in front of me.
-Kevin
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 18:06:52 -0500
From: Michael.Bradley@mail.cc.trincoll.edu (Michael Bradley)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Japanese ACOS, VAI CD for trade, Kotzen review
Message-ID: <v01520d00ad5000303102@[157.252.65.110]>
Hey guys!
First, to the guy who posted the review of the new Richie Kotzen
album, I can't agree more! Few instrumental guitar albums have knocked me
on my ass in the past couple years, but this one is SCARY! It's very
Holdsworth-esque with Richie's usual array of killer Tele sounds. At the
end he sings a beautiful acoustic ballad with a stunning guitar break. This
album will make you appreciate Richie Kotzen as one of THE greats out there
today. It's too bad he's never really settled with a band, but I guess
that's what happens when you sleep with band-mates' girlfriends and then
marry them:)
ALSO...I lost several e-mail messages, some of which pertained to
my extra copy of Steve Vai's "Alien Love Secrets." So...one more time...if
anyone is interested in trading DT/Rush stuff for a BRAND NEW, UNOPENED
copy of "Alien Love Secrets" let me know. My terms will be such, so that
you will get a much better deal than if you were to buy the CD.
Okay...DT content. This is a tough request, so listen up. I'm
looking for the Japanese CD single that came with the limited edition of
ACOS. I believe it was "Tears" and I heard that the CD singles have been
mailed out now, so if ANYONE knows where I can get this, I'd be greatly
appreciative. I'm also looking to buy a Japanese ACOS and/or a Japanese
LATM, so if anyone can help me with any of this, PLEASE DON'T GO..uh..I
mean, PLEASE HELP!! :) Later all!
-Mike Bradley
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 16:07:23 -0700
From: Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Eloquency and you.
Message-ID: <199602202307.QAA27918@maple.enet.net>
>They call me Mr. Knowitall, I am so eloquent
>Perfection is my middle name and whatever rhymes with eloquent
Didn't I have that in my .sig once upon a time?
Anywho...I think that there is the TAB for ACoS in some magazine! I
met a person at school who says he has it (he also says that he can play the
whole song...God, I hope he can, so I can finally have someone to be in a
band with. :-). He also asked to borrow some DT stuff. I think we have a
new fan in the makings, folks!
/me headbangs to Bombay Vindaloo.
I thought of a good idea...but I haven't a clue if it'll work. Let's
hypothesize. (Hypothetically) It would be cool if we could get a drummer
from the Jam to record himself playing a few DT songs. Then, send the tape
to a guitarist to layer the guitar part over it...then send it to bass,
keys, vocals...then we have a full recording. Then we could make a tape
tree. We could do that any number of times, with different line-ups. Of
course...I have no idea if that is possible. Can you record tracks over
tracks on tapes like that? This is serious, btw. I think it would be nifty
doodle if it worked.
/me headbangs some more to Bombay Vindaloo.
>I have to say that the the DT opening for Rush possibility would be
>awesome... first of all, even though it would lose the intimacy , I think
>DT's music is more appropriate for larger venues because it's
>so...so...so.... GRANDOISE!
Yeah, I guess...but I think it would be mr grandiose than grandoise. :-)
I myself would rather go to two concerts and see 120 minute sets by
each, instead of 60 minute sets. I want my first concert-going experience
to be a good one.
>JP: Alex man your like the best guitar in the world.
>Al: Thanxs man
>JP: No I really mean it... you made me the guitarist I am today..
>AL: Aw SHUCKS John, don't say that...
JP: No I mean it...I LOVE you, man!
AL: You're not getting my Bud Light, Johnny!
Jason Breitwig wrote that...I was looking through the Blind Guardian
homepage Guestbook. Heh....he put something like: Blind Guardian is good,
but Dream Theater is still the best!!!
Now THAT is true fandom! Anywho, I got some BG sounds samples...the
music is great, but that guy's voice rivals Chucky D.'s (and I mean that in
a bad way. :-) ^^^^^^^^^
Take a swig!
>well, i've been checking out a couple of mailing lists, namely the one for
>alanis morissette and tori amos, and lemme tell ya, the ytsejam is a lot
>better than those other jams.
Those are mailing lists, not jams. There can be only ONE.
>i won't even get into the alanis thing. that just sucked left sweaty
>testicle.
Okay...that's a little more information than I needed.
>this "rock pop and soul" class i'm ta'ing made my day today. they had to
>submit a list of their top 5 bands, and we compiled them up. of course, the
>beatles won, followed by the usuals like zeppelin, floyd, pearl jam, u2, dave
>matthews (gimme a break!)
What??? DMB is awesome!
>Well Mark, I am no Mike Portnoy,
Well, who is? :-)
but I've been playing drums and guitar for
>years. I think I have somewhat of an answer to your question:
>One point I'd like to bring up here...MP's HI HAT technique. If you listen
>closely, Portnoy is CONSTANTLY using incredible hi hat cymbal technique,
>closing and opening it by switching his left foot from bass pedal to hi hat
>pedal. When you are listening to Mikes left foot on the 2nd bass drum, also
>listen for what it.s doing on the hi hat. In fact it almost seems that he is
>doing with just his left foot, what many drummers need both for!
Could you give me an example of this? I'm not disagreeing, just wondering
where and in what song this takes place.
Judging by
>the speed and accuracy he displays with that, I would say MP could keep the
>beat going with the small toe of his right foot if he had to. :) I don't
>think he has to "rely" on double bass at all, but he DOES know how to use
>the double bass to it's optimum potential.
I dunno....I don't think his toes are that big. Ever tried doing any of the
tom tom
kick kick (etc.)
fills with only one foot? They is a bitch. That's what Double bass drum
pedals are for, though.
>This is something I've been wondering for the longest time. When
>James gets so high (or any male singer for that matter) is he singing
>in falsetto? In Another Day on Acoustic Dreams it's pretty apparent
>he's singing falsetto there, but I'm not too sure about on all the
>other songs. I'm guessing it isn't falsetto...
>
Nah...just lungs the size of hot air balloons.
>Anyway, I wasa just wondering, as I often do, how many of you
>ytsejammerz are professionals, and how many of you still dream of
>becoming something greater than the reality in which you are currently
>residing in, much like drunk old me.
>
> I mean, How many of you are content with who you are, and how many
>think you can be so much more? I fall in the catagory(?) of the latter.
I'm in the category of: I don't know yet...I'm only 14.
> And for all you who are better, oh well, don't read this.
>
Whoops...too late. :-)
I would...but I can get arrested for that kind of thing.
>I also think MP has two hi-hats... so does Nicko, so when he's switching
>his footing, he uses the hi-hat which is set tight already... the other
>is an open hi-hat...
He's got three! One on the left, set up like a regular hi-hat...one on the
right closed tightly...and another on the right, set partway closed for that
sloshy sound.
>"Love is the Dance of Eternity"
>
> ---From "Surrounded" by Dream Theater
>
Hey....wait a sec.....
BTW! I'm wearing my new DT Home For the Holidays Shirt.
Harold of the Rocks
Go buy yourself some Bombay Vindaloo, play the Ytsejam Drinking game then
stay till 6:00 puking your guts out!!!!
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 18:59:50 -0500
From: dneff@maaco.com (David Neff)
To: ytsejam@ax.com ('on-line "Ytse-Jammers"')
Subject: MacAlpine!
Message-ID: <1996Feb20.184500.1059.3281@smtp.maaco.com>
Hey All,
My first post on the new Jam! (everyone drink, see below)
Darren Redick said in YJ1277:
>Hey! Has anyone heard or seen Tony MacAlpine play? He's unbelievable!
I couldn't agree with you more! Not only is he a guitarist on par with
Yngwie, but he plays keys equally well. Alas, I've never seen him live,
but based on "Maximum Security", he is truly great. (IMO)
And Kris Claerhout is on tour with him!? Swine!! :)
There's another guy named Alex Gregory who's a guitar hero, but I
don't know a thing about him. Anybody?
One more for the Ytsebar: 1/2 Rumpleminze, 1/2 Wild Spirit.
(I think Wild Spirit tastes and smells like Godiva chocolate liqueur, but
it's clear and 105 proof. Wheee!)
And while I'm here... if you're an Iron Maiden fan and they're coming
to your town, keep your ears open for them showing up at a record
store to sign "X-Factor"...
Carpe diem,
Dave (dneff@maaco.com)
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 19:08:18 -0500
From: szucseue@saber.udayton.edu
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Kotzenique
Message-ID: <96022019081840@saber.udayton.edu>
Richie is probably the most versatile legato player out there;
his instructional video is most impressive. The guy can literally
play one song with about two pick strokes. FREAKY!!
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 17:18:00 -0700 (MST)
From: YAP <auhcy@asu.edu>
To: YtseJam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: another ASU person
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960220171347.8505A-100000@email1.asu.edu>
I just read on the last ytsejam that there's another fan at ASU. Hi
uncle dave.
I saw in BMG this month that they have all three DT albums (I&W, AWAKE,
and ACoS). They even gave DT a 1/5 room on their "metal" page.
The picture is pretty decent too.
Hui-Chi
auhcy@asu.edu
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 11:00:53 -0500
From: Scotch <anthem@virginia.edu>
To: Funkytown <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: The Tori list, minimal DTC
Message-ID: <v01540b00ad4f97cbb22b@bootp-234-126.bootp.virginia.edu>
WildKoba sez:
> well, i've been checking out a couple of mailing lists, namely the one for
> alanis morissette and tori amos, and lemme tell ya, the ytsejam is a lot
> better than those other jams.
[snip]
> i never really cared as to who tori last fucked. apparently, someone who
> transcribed a new interview of hers did care. i didn't dig it. i don't really
> care if she belives in god or is afraid of failure. they did.
>
> it's nice that here we can talk about MUSIC. and not about who derek fucks
> (or james, johns, or mike).
Dave, I don't know which particular Tori mailing list you checked out, but
I'm on Really Deep Thoughts (the only one I know of) and I haven't seen
anything about "who Tori last fucked," as you so eloquently put it. Unless
you were referring to the Spin article that someone just posted. True,
there's a lot of speculation and varying interpretations about the lyrics
on the new album, and yes, a lot of them are sexually-oriented, but that's
how she writes... but it's not like Tori's some nympho slut; and it's not
like everyone's digging up dirt on her. Maybe you were on
rec.music.tori-amos; that's a noisy place.
And as for your comment that the Ytsejam is better than the Tori list (I
can't comment about the Alanis list, nor would I care to), I'd have to say
that it's really apples to oranges. The people are way different, and the
content is way different. Here on the 'jam, we have a lot of metal and
progressive fans, many of whom are musicians, and we talk about the
technical aspects of the music and the lyrics, and boots, etc. And there's
kind of a general contempt for a large amount of non-DT content, probably
due to the high volume of the list.
The Tori list (RDT) is just a whole different ballgame. It's much more
open-- people write in with non-Tori content like they're writing to
friends, when they need to blow off steam, when they feel like being silly,
when they need advice, when they're feeling like shit and need some
support. There was a girl whose parents put her on medication to control
her depression, and she was considering suicide, and she wrote in like a
3-page post to the list, telling all... it was really heavy; but she got a
lot of letters of support. You'll NEVER see anything like that here on the
'jam-- I know a lot of you would see that sort of thing as wimpy or overly
melodramatic. But people need that, and RDT is a place for it. There's a
lot of emotional traffic on the Tori list, and a lot of it is written in
its own odd style, but that's what you get in Tori Amos circles. It's a
really close-knit group. And yes, there is Tori discussion, a whole lot
now that Boys For Pele is out-- and not a lot of it is about what time
signature she's playing at x:xx in a given song. That's not really the
issue.
OK, on to something else.
> Well Mark, I am no Mike Portnoy, but I've been playing drums and guitar for
> years. I think I have somewhat of an answer to your question:
> One point I'd like to bring up here...MP's HI HAT technique.
Does MP have 2 hi-hats? On several songs on Awake (esp. Erotomania), I
hear the hi-hat switch channels-- first right, then left. That's pretty
cool.
> One last question: How many of you (Mike B) have ever submitted a post
> to the jam drunk and made a fool of yourself?
Actually, yes... after UVA beat Florida State last fall, I got 'faced and
posted this stupid one-line thing to the 'jam about our victory... and some
pissed-off FSU jammer wrote to me like "So the fuck what?"
Scott.
anthem@virginia.edu
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 17:33:11 -0700 (MST)
From: "Devil's Plaything" <papined@pr.erau.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: FW, QR and me!
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960220172915.23106A-100000@moon>
I just recently picked up the Fates Warning CD "Chasing Time" For those
who don't know what it is, its like a compilation of FW's best stuff, and
some unreleased songs and remixes.
Anyway, for me it's my first FW listen...and I think its F'n awesome.
I'm definately gonna pick up more by these guys soon. I highly recommend
their stuff.
Also, same day I picked up Queensryche's "Bridge" single. It has on it
the full band version of "Someone Else" which happens to be some of the
finest QR music I've heard in a long time. It rolls in at about 7 1/2
minutes, even though the CD says its like 4:22 or so. Its a must buy for
any QR fans out there!!
L8r
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
<><><><><><><><><><><><> THE DEVIL'S PLAYTHING ><><><><><><><><><><><><>
<><><><><><><><> David Papineau - papined@pr.erau.edu <><><><><><><><><>
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 19:45:32 -0500 (EST)
From: World Wide Web User <www@columbia.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Yes I smoke Crack
Message-ID: <199602210045.TAA07463@zivijo.cc.columbia.edu>
Hey ytse-Dudes,
There has been alot of talk on the jam as to whether I or any other member of Dream Theater use drugs. Well of course we do. How the fuck do you think we play so damn fast. I personally smoke three viles of crack before each show. Mike snorts about ten lines. and John M. Shoots up a shitload of heroin. That's how he stays so layed back when he plays those outragous bass lines during ytsejam. Also I would like to ask that Mike Bahr please stop making Boots of us. YOU ARE STEALING OUR RECORD SALES. Well I got to go....I have a Kilo of weed with my name on it.
Later,
John Pettrucci
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 96 19:58:12 EST
From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: FYI
Message-ID: <9602210058.AA12899@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
Once had 20/1200? Last check, I think I still have 20/1200, unless I made one
of my famous typoes.
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 19:29:14 -0600 (CST)
From: The One Who Helps to Set the Sun <polzin@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: another ASU person
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.960220192743.4324B-100000@eehpx7.cen.uiuc.edu>
>
> I saw in BMG this month that they have all three DT albums (I&W, AWAKE,
> and ACoS). They even gave DT a 1/5 room on their "metal" page.
> The picture is pretty decent too.
>
I know. I got another copy of IAW and AWAKE. :)
Ed
[31mWWW: http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~polzin/
[34mDT: http://isr0939.urh.uiuc.edu/dt/dt.htm
[35mBOOTLEGS: http://isr0939.urh.uiuc.edu/boots.htm
[35m------------------------------------------
[37mYou walk into a room to find only a
[37m dead man, shot through the head, a
[37m table, and fifty-three bicycles on
[37m the floor. What happened?
[35m------------------------------------------
[35m- finger polzin@students.uiuc.edu -
[35m- for the answer -
[35m------------------------------------------
[37m
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 19:30:38 -0600 (CST)
From: The One Who Helps to Set the Sun <polzin@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Yes I smoke Crack
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.960220192958.4324C-100000@eehpx7.cen.uiuc.edu>
Damnit. It's been up one day and someone is already abusing this.
Ed
[31mWWW: http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~polzin/
[34mDT: http://isr0939.urh.uiuc.edu/dt/dt.htm
[35mBOOTLEGS: http://isr0939.urh.uiuc.edu/boots.htm
[35m------------------------------------------
[37mYou walk into a room to find only a
[37m dead man, shot through the head, a
[37m table, and fifty-three bicycles on
[37m the floor. What happened?
[35m------------------------------------------
[35m- finger polzin@students.uiuc.edu -
[35m- for the answer -
[35m------------------------------------------
[37m
[0m
On Tue, 20 Feb 1996, World Wide Web User wrote:
> Hey ytse-Dudes,
> There has been alot of talk on the jam as to whether I or any other member of Dream Theater use drugs. Well of course we do. How the fuck do you think we play so damn fast. I personally smoke three viles of crack before each show. Mike snorts about ten lines. and John M. Shoots up a shitload of heroin. That's how he stays so layed back when he plays those outragous bass lines during ytsejam. Also I would like to ask that Mike Bahr please stop making Boots of us. YOU ARE STEALING OUR RECORD SALES. Well I got to go....I have a Kilo of weed with my name on it.
> Later,
> John Pettrucci
>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 20:37:18 -0500 (EST)
From: david ahlert <ahlert84@matrix.newpaltz.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Lookin for some drummers to chat with
Message-ID: <199602210137.UAA19735@matrix.newpaltz.edu>
This is my first post so I hope I get it right. I'm a drummer who worships
Portnoy as God(as does any drummer with half a brain). I'm lookin for some
drummers to chat with about M.P. and other drummers such as: Smith, Bozzio,
Morgenstein, Beauford, Famularo, Rock, Paul, etc. I'm lookin for any kind of
talk about drums.
Dave Ahlert-Suny at New Paltz
ahlert84@matrix.newpaltz.edu
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 19:09:10 -0700 (MST)
From: Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1277
Message-ID: <199602210209.TAA03869@bud.indirect.com>
> From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
> Subject: Re: Drinking Game Re-visited
>
> Well, just for the record, ...
> I don't think I could be better, I know I could be better. Some of you know
> this feeling. You don't want to be in college. You want to get out and start
> your life. But the parental units are threatening to make you homeless if you
> drop out, so ... you stay in your miserable surroundings. That's me. And the
I know it's hard, and it can be touch and go for a long time
(believe me, I know this from experience) but sometimes you just have to
call their bluff and leave. As soon as a person reaches college age, most
parents decide they can threaten to kick that person out if they so much
as sneeze wrong. That's been my only major complaint about my own
parents... they went above and beyond the call in most other ways.
Think about DT... they went (most of them) to Berklee, and that's
no free ticket. They probably went through the same crap we do.
> From: richard@capitale.qc.ca (Richard James)
> Subject: re:james singing falsetto
>
> on this song (another day on acoustic dream) it isn't james who singing
the song The song is interpreted by mike bahr's group
> please mike would you confirm that to all the "jam"
I'm afraid I cannot confirm this because it isn't true. That's
James and John on that recording. It's from an Oklahoma City radio
interview & session. Hard to believe, eh?
The reason that and Silent Man (I think) were credited to DT was
to eliminate possible legal trouble. The entire CD is DT performing.
> Of course I want more! Bigger! Better! Louder! Faster! More DT
> content! More alcohol content! More Bafu Vai posts! More Mike Bahr CDs!
Cool! I agree, let's all bug Mike about this.
> From: Charone Frankel <96sp211@dvc.edu>
> Subject: FYI
>
> I really cannot believe I am doing this, but....I'm drunk, yeah,
YEAH!! Chicks who drink, like, put out, right Butthead? (kidding!)
> 20/20 vision means that you can see from 20 feet what the average
> person can see from 20 feet. Damon said that he once had 12/1200 vision,
> which means that he can see from 12 feet what the average person can see
> from 1200 feet.
Really? Wow! I have 20/375 and 20/425 vision (left/right) and
most of you who've met me might have noticed how damn poorly I see
without contact lenses. I'm just lucky contacts are sufficient. That's
right, Jammers, your CDs are being made by a guy who can hardly see! And
if I watch enough TV from a distance of a few inches, I can catch up with
Damon in a matter of months. :)
> I haven't post in a while and decided to write after listening to WDATU #425
I wanted to mention something to the net.. I'm up to the 300's in
mailing; Hui-Chi got her copy #425 by picking it up in person. I guess
being a local has SOME benefits. :) So I'm not doing special favours,
just trying to accomodate everyone.
> From: BERTAPELLE ADAM RAYE <bertapel@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
> Subject: Re: LaBrie's best shows...
>
> I believe that James' best show was in June '93 at the Warfield in San
> Francisco. He was flawless...except for when he introduced "To Live
> Forever" ....."And this next one is a new one we've been working
> on..It's called Learning...to...remember the title of the song! It's
> called To Live Forever." I was at that show (2nd of my DT career) and
> have a very good audience video recording of it. There ya go!
That show was decent, but James still hadn't mastered (at that
time) making his voice last near-flawlessly through the length of a
concert. He's come a long way. At those Xmas shows, even though he had
bronchitis, he was hitting notes that would have torn a hole in my neck,
and he still had his range when it was time for the encore. I think the
best show ever was the Birch Hill 12/29/95 show.
> From: Uncle.Dave@asu.edu
> Subject: do you know?
>
> i was wondering if anyone knew how i could get my hands on acoustic
> dreams and what the term "progressive rock" means. also, is the group
> _saga_ a prog group?
As far as I've been able to tell, it's near impossible to get
ahold of Acoustic Dreams, but somewhere, people are selling it.
The reason I know this is because I get e-mails of the JTP Net
Collectibles Price Guide, which is a listing that is written by a program
that automatically goes through every *.marketplace post and collates
information based on the criteria of net availability. I don't know how
he did it, but it's incredible the amount of info this thing makes. A
similar program written by the Cloister guy does this for all the card
collecting newsgroups.
In any case, the last time I checked the NCPG with a search for
DT in it, it read the following:
Subconscious 1995 OOP 25 140 35 113
Acoustic Dreams 1995 OOP 25 100 25 76
When Dream And Today Un 1995 IP 25 25 25 25
Antiquities 1996 IP 25 25 25 25
Scenes From A Memory 1996 IP 25 25 25 25
Also under Rush:
Cygnus: A Tribute To Th 1995 OOP 25 43 18 35
The columns work like this in the listing, which is fucking
enormous (I have certain sections forwarded to me):
Title, Date released, Out Of Print or In Print, Original Price,
Highest Price Seen, Lowest Price Seen, Average Price
Since the info collated also takes auctions into the data pool,
the prices trend a bit low. I REALLY want to know what sort of rich
person decided to pay some of those high prices!!
> does anyone know when dt is coming to arizona? l8r
Not for a while. I'm from here in Chandler, and I speak with
management when it's possible, and they won't tour again until the fall
at the earliest. Expect them to start in the Southeast and work their way
west if they open for Rush, otherwise they'll start in New York and work
their way west.
Final notes... I have an overflowing mailbox with corrections to
the Antiquities number list... I'm trying to get to those ASAP. Don't
panic if you don't hear from me right away. Feel free to e-mail me if you
need to know something, even if it might take time before I reply.
Please help orders for WDATU and Antiquities and Scenes... it's
starting a bit slower than the orders for Acoustic Dreams did, and we all
remember what happened with THAT release!!
MTFBWY! Mike Bahr, durnik@indirect.com/mikebahr@dreamt.org
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