YTSEJAM digest 1292

From: ytsejam@ax.com
Date: Sun Feb 25 1996 - 18:15:02 EST

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 1292

    Today's Topics:

      1) Mail Item Format Warning
     by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 02/25/96 - 12:57:22" <response@ibmmail.com>
      2) Thanks...
     by nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop)
      3) CD dubs of Mike Bahr's SUBCONSCIOUS
     by JamesArin@aol.com
      4) Fanzine
     by borlangw <borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk>
      5) Superior (fwd)
     by "Dave D'Uva" <dduva@freenet.npiec.on.ca>
      6) Drinking game
     by Brad Kane <jc309@columbia.edu>
      7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1291
     by Dave <buster@ee.net>
      8) Woo hoo!
     by Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
      9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1291
     by alex@cts.com (Steve Alexander)
     10) recording covers
     by m_washke@acad.lvc.edu
     11) DOOMO!!!
     by ytsejammer <belhai@drew.edu>
     12) Tori Amos...
     by mojoman@pointblank.com
     13) Maiden and stuff...
     by SEEGED73@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU
     14) For those of you who are waiting.......DT HATS.
     by market@clubmet.metrobbs.com
     15) For those of you who are waiting.......DT HATS.
     by market@clubmet.metrobbs.com
     16) Oh, just some stuff
     by Scott Daugherty <SRDAUGZ2@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU>
     17) Killing Hand, IRC, John Petrucci Sr.
     by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>

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    Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 07:58:14 EST
    From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 02/25/96 - 12:57:22" <response@ibmmail.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Mail Item Format Warning
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    Date: Sun, 25 Feb 96 15:06:58 +0100
    From: nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop)
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Cc: nga@server3.software-ag.de
    Subject: Thanks...
    Message-ID: <9602251406.AA00260@sundoc13.software-ag.de>

    Hi all

    just a quick note to say thanks to everybody who sent info about how to get the
    Superior CD (special thanks to Bernd). I guess it won't be long until the CD is
    in my grubby little hands.

    And now: The Strange Effects of Dream Theater on Cats, part 1. I am currently
    house- and cat-sitting for some friends who are diving in Belize (lucky
    bastards). Anyway, these people have a fantasic stereo, so when I moved in, a
    large part of my cd collection went with me. Last night I was playing AWAKE
    at a volume calculated to annoy the neighbours two streets away, while I was in
    the kitchen. When the CD had finished, I went back to the lounge to put some-
    thing else on, and - horror of horrors - I found that one of the cats had been
    using the big Infinity speakers as a scratching post! That cat soon learned
    about the joy of flying (with the aid of my size 12 foot up its butt). The
    question is, why did it do that? Was it trying to get to the little men in the
    speaker, or was John Myung's bass upsetting its kitty digestion? What do I tell
    these people? Perhaps I could nail the cats to the speakers next time.

    stay safe and happy listening
    Neil Gallop
    (nga@software-ag.de)

    Currently playing: Skyclad - The Silent Whales of Lunar Sea

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    Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 09:36:03 -0500
    From: JamesArin@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@ax.com, metropolis@arastar.com
    Subject: CD dubs of Mike Bahr's SUBCONSCIOUS
    Message-ID: <960225093602_152918486@mail04.mail.aol.com>

         Fellow YTSEJAMMERS sit down before you hurt yourselves. Yes it is true
    I can make you a copy of SUBCONSCIOUS on CD. Now before you mess yourself
    understand that this is a COPY and it is not an original from some secret
    stock pile.
         
         It WILL sound exactly the same as the original.
         It WILL NOT look exactly the same as the original.
         It WILL cost the same as the original. $25 U.S.

         I have received permission from Mike to do this and my intent is not to
    compete with him. I am doing this because I realize that there are a number
    of Jammers that missed out on SUBCONSCIOUS and I would like to help.

            A note from Mike:
            Hi everyone! I can't make any more, you're all well aware of
    that. It seems like what Jim's doing here is a decent enough project... I
    don't even know how he's going to cover costs because I barely did when I
    was using much less expensive recording media. If you missed out on
    Subconscious, this is your chance to at least get a CD copy of it. It
    won't be the original, numbered, valuable collectible, but it will be the
    same music on CD and that sure beats cassettes! :) For the record, as the
    original creator of Subconscious, I give my blessing for this project to
    go forward, and he might do Acoustic Dreams later; who knows!

    MTFBWY! Mike Bahr, durnik@indirect.com/mikebahr@dreamt.org

         Here is how I would like to work it. If you would like to order please
    copy and paste this into a reply with your info:

             SUBCONSCIOUS ORDER
             NAME:
             E-MAIL:
             # of COPIES:

         I will e-mail the first 25 people and ask that they send a money order
    in $U.S. I will accept a check but I must wait untill it clears the bank, so
    this means your order will take longer to get to you. When I finish with
    these I will move on to the next 25 and so on. This way you don't have to
    part with your hard earned money so far in advance of receiving your
    shipment. If you don't have the money now you may ask to be put on the WAIT
    order list. What this means is I will WAIT for you to e-mail me when you are
    able to send the money and I will then put you in the next block. I ask that
    people do this so I know in advance how many blank CD's I need to purchase.

    To serve and to PROGRESS (If you need Protection you must buy your own. He!
    He! :^)
                Jim Colberg
                JamesArin@aol.com

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    Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 16:22:14 GMT
    From: borlangw <borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Fanzine
    Message-ID: <9602251622.AA04364@jason.dcs.gla.ac.uk>

    Neil really has excelled himself with issue #9 of I&W.

    It's full of great stuff, and the quality of the photos is amazing! I have
    to admit, I was expecting the Dream Theater to be slightly larger :-) (the
    actual building, not the photos!)

    Lots of respect to Howard Portnoy too :-)

    Graham B.
     ____________________________________________________________________________
    | |
    | Graham Borland, borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk, http://www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~borlangw |::
    |____________________________________________________________________________|::
      ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

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    Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 12:39:17 -0500 (EST)
    From: "Dave D'Uva" <dduva@freenet.npiec.on.ca>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Superior (fwd)
    Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9602251220.B21270-0100000@freenet>

    (I sent this message a while ago to the old ytsejam, but it never got
    posted for some reason)

    Hi everyone, I just got Superior's CD, "behind" (thanks Jason Skewes!).
    All I can say is that if you haven't already checked them out, do it
    NOW! You owe it to yourself to be exposed to such awesome music. Every
    member of the band is excellent on his instrument. So take my advice,
    people, and support an amazing progressive band.

    ----dave
    --dduva@freenet.npiec.on.ca
    ......
    A wise man said to know thyself
    'cause in the end there's no one else
    Just the solace of you
            --Living Colour, "Solace Of You"

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    Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 12:58:44 -0500 (EST)
    From: Brad Kane <jc309@columbia.edu>
    To: BafuJam <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Drinking game
    Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960225125748.1740A-100000@bonjour.cc.columbia.edu>

    Dear Jammers,

    Hey, what's up? I have an addition to the Ytsejam Drinking Game:

    Take a chug if...

    Someone complains about the drinking games on the list.

    Yours,
    Jeff =)

            <*> Jeff Chew <*> jc309@columbia.edu <*> (212) 853-6952 <*>
                       <*> http://www.columbia.edu/~jc309 <*>
        <*> Lifting Shadows : http://www.columbia.edu/~jc309/dreamt.html <*>

          "Lifting Shadows Off a Dream once broken, she can turn a drop of
                 water into an ocean" -- John Myung, Dream Theater

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    Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 12:55:53 -0500
    From: Dave <buster@ee.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1291
    Message-ID: <199602251755.MAA09416@mail.ee.net>

    >Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 11:34:30 +0900
    >From: allison.eng3@uwcr.edu (Allison Eng)
    >To: allison.eng3@uwcr.edu
    >Subject: ===>> FREE 1 yr. Magazine Sub sent worldwide- 295+ Popular USA Titles

    excerpts from a post:

    >Hi fellow 'netters,
    >
    >My name is Allison Eng and I recently started using a magazine subscription
    >club in the USA that has a FREE 1 yr. magazine subscription deal with your
    >
    >Please do not email me as I am just a happy customer and a *busy* student.
    >I don't have time to even complete my thesis in time, let alone run my

    WTF??? Would anyone besides me consider this 50 paragraph post about
    ordering magazines to be annoying to see on the jam? If you read it, you
    know what I'm talking about...to top it off, there are so many rules to it
    that it seems more of a hassle than it's worth. Be a lot easier in the long
    run to just go to the store and buy one!

    She states here not to email her because she has no time! REALLY?? She had
    enough time to post a 5 page sales pitch! She's getting email from me:)

    buster

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    Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 12:04:49 -0700
    From: Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Woo hoo!
    Message-ID: <199602251904.MAA26028@maple.enet.net>

    Ya member when I was writin' those short stories influenced by listening to
    a certain Dream Theater (sip) song? Well, remember the one for Under a
    Glass Moon? Well, I just realized that I was right as to what the meaning
    was....in a way.

            The Killing Hand is an awesome song.
            Bombaay Vindaloo is too.
            There's only one A in Bombay.
            Whoops.

            What's an ADAT XT?
            If you ever find yourself coming to Las Vegas, come visit me, dammit!
            Umm...whatever.

    Ben Laussade

    "Ya know, if you stand back a few yards and squint, he looks almost normal."

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    Date: Sun, 25 Feb 96 11:34 PST
    From: alex@cts.com (Steve Alexander)
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1291
    Message-ID: <m0tqmDT-0000cKC@crash.cts.com>

    I ASK YOU AGAIN -- PLEASE STOP SENDING ME THESE MESSAGES. REMOVE ME FROM
    YOUR LIST. I DO NOT WISH TO GET EMAIL FROM YOU. I HAVE NO INTEREST IN ANY OF
    THE MESSAGES YOU HAVE SENT TO ME. STOP STOP STOP

    > YTSEJAM Digest 1291
    >
    >Today's Topics:
    >
    > 1) covering dt
    > by Ernesto Schnack <ernie@ns1.pananet.com>
    > 2) Mail Item Format Warning
    > by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 02/25/96 - 03:25:13"
    ---------------------------------------------------
    Steve Alexander - San Diego - 619-622-0515
    Pick consulting, manufacturing, data conversion
    Whatever you resist will persist.
    Whatever you pursue will allude you.
    ---------------------------------------------------

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    Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 11:49:38 -0800
    From: m_washke@acad.lvc.edu
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: recording covers
    Message-ID: <199602251949.LAA16031@mindcrime.ax.com>

            The whole idea of recording covers of dt is a damn good one. It
    sounds like quite a bit of fun. However, the idea of sending someone five
    tapes of different performances would be next to impossible to pull off.
    That would require multiple synced decks. I don't know how many people on
    the jam are fortunate enough to own a Digital Multi Track recorder, or
    mutiple decks for that matter. If someone happens to own this equipment,
    odds are that it is paying someone's bills in their studio right now and
    they don't have time to mix anything for free. Now, if it is to all be put
    down on one tape (VHS or Hi8) and sent to someone with some gear and free
    time, It may come out half decent, and this scenerio is a bit more
    plausible. I don't personally have the time to work up my chops to play
    guitar or drums on this, but I could help engineer someone recording it, if
    a Hi8 format is being used. If anyone living in the central PA area is
    interested (or someone willing to travel) I could help. I could also mix if
    that is what is prefered. I can not help out however if it is done on ADAT.
    However, if anyone is willing to move back into the stone ages and record
    onto 1/2 inch 8 track analog I can help then too. Also, there is the
    possibility that I could help if anyone can do analog 24 track. If that is
    possible, it sure to come out better, just because of all the additional
    control over the drums since they wont have to be mixed down to a stereo
    pair. Just make sure not to follow the bright idea of whoever it was that
    said to record bass first. I am fortunate enough to have access to this
    equipment because I am a recording student. So, if whoever is in charge of
    this is interested in my help, just e-mail me and we could figure out what
    is going on. BUT- MAKE IT QUICK! This semester is just about half way over,
    and I can't work past May 15.

    Mike Washkevich

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    Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 15:02:44 -0500 (EST)
    From: ytsejammer <belhai@drew.edu>
    To: ytse farmers <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: DOOMO!!!
    Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.91.960225145910.578966910C-100000@drew.edu>

    Just a correction on some other jammers post...

    Someone posted (I forget who you are) and said that Derek said "doomo" in
    the pay-per-view video. And that Derek thought that "doomo" meant "thanks"
    when it really meant "a lot."

    I take Japanese and "doomo" means "thanks." But it is very informal. So
    Derek knew what he was saying.

                                       ...Brandon

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    Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 15:46:38 -0500
    From: mojoman@pointblank.com
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Tori Amos...
    Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.2.25.15.46.38.2377490627.1224967@pointblank.com>

           It really angers me...

           MY OPINION!!! MY FUCKING OPINION....My interest in exploding
    the reason why Tori Amos is so famous is MY OPINION....

       to Who ever happened to say something concerning me being worthless
    to this Jam.....?

           (Your name is not very important to me, because I dont care for
            your insignificantly dull comentary)

           Your threats about posting shit on the Tori Amos newsgroup is
    what makes you a silly, immature looser!!! People are NOT going to like
    the same fucking music you do.....for certain no one likes the same shit
    I do, yet I dont flame someone for every little fucking post the make
    about my interests...
           What bothers and concerns me the most is the fact that the same
    reason you flame me for stating an opinion....It merely makes you more
    of a piece of shit for responding....
           Every God-Damned fucking Jam I recieve is loaded with shit that
    is going to piss me off...I dont respond to each and every one of
    them...I dont care...

           IN response to your silly claim that I am doing this for
    attention????? 3 words....Go Fuck Yourself!! Tori amos may be a good
    musician, have a good voice....

           (But have you listened to the radio lately???? 97% of your
    musicians making megabucks are talentless)

          (But she uses sex to sell her music...its a gimick that makes her
    stand out....)

           I am going to state opinions...If you dont like
    them....again...Go Fuck Yourself.....

           Formal warning....back off man....

    MojoMan

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    Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 15:40:23 -0600 (CST)
    From: SEEGED73@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Maiden and stuff...
    Message-ID: <01I1MVL7VMGI00275P@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU>

    Date sent: 25-FEB-1996 15:29:07

    Just listened to X Factor for the first time, and I have mixed feelings.
    Still sounds like Maiden, but Blaze Bayley sounds like Bruce Dickinson with
    a kick in the balls and no heart. Why did he have to leave? I think Joey
    Belladonna should've been the new singer if Bruce had to leave. Oh well,
    in 6 days till their Milwaukee show...

    What's all the fuss about the drinking game? I thought it was cool. The
    complainer just doesn't get half the stuff, that's the problem...

    And to the guy who said, in almost exact words, "ther person who lays down
    HIS tracks first (probably the bass player.....)" Do you think all bass
    players are guys? hThey're not.

     And anyway, I can almost guarantee that sending a tape around wouldn't
    work.
     If you don't record live you'll probably need the bass AND drums to
    record at the same time and then do the overdubs of everything else.
    Something to take into consideration, kids...
      

    ________________________________________________________________________________
    Debbie Seeger seeged73@vaxa.cis.uwosh.edu
    University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh
    Music Major (Recording Technology emphasis)

    "Don't jump off the deep end of the pool without your water wings."
                                    - John Harmon
    ________________________________________________________________________________

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    Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 16:31:36 -0500
    From: market@clubmet.metrobbs.com
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: For those of you who are waiting.......DT HATS.
    Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.2.25.-16.31.36.5063.13638@clubmet.metrobbs.com>

            UPDATE HAT UPDATE HAT UPDATE HAT UPDATE HAT UPDATE
           ----------------------------------------------------

           I just wanted to write a quick Thank you note to
           all those Jamers who have been soooo patient with
           the DT embrodered hats. The first batch of hats
           sold out, and I am getting another small batch
           on Tuesday 27th, 1996. For those of you who
           have a DT hat on backorder, they will be mailed
           out Tuesday 27th! Thanks again for your patients.

           If you would like to check the DT (embrodered) hats
           out then:

                   http://www.dreamt.org

           -----------------------------------------------------

                            market@clubmet.com

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    Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 16:32:06 -0500
    From: market@clubmet.metrobbs.com
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: For those of you who are waiting.......DT HATS.
    Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.2.25.-16.32.6.7265.17584@clubmet.metrobbs.com>

            UPDATE HAT UPDATE HAT UPDATE HAT UPDATE HAT UPDATE
           ----------------------------------------------------

           I just wanted to write a quick Thank you note to
           all those Jamers who have been soooo patient with
           the DT embrodered hats. The first batch of hats
           sold out, and I am getting another small batch
           on Tuesday 27th, 1996. For those of you who
           have a DT hat on backorder, they will be mailed
           out Tuesday 27th! Thanks again for your patients.

           If you would like to check the DT (embrodered) hats
           out then:

                   http://www.dreamt.org

           -----------------------------------------------------

                            market@clubmet.com

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    Date: Sun, 25 Feb 96 17:39:24 EST
    From: Scott Daugherty <SRDAUGZ2@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU>
    To: Da Jam <YTSEJAM@AX.COM>
    Subject: Oh, just some stuff
    Message-ID: <960225.175123.EST.SRDAUGZ2@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU>

     Hey everybody!

        This is my first post to the new jam! (I'm lying)
        Hey, what's wrong with moderation? (I'm lying)
        Can anybody tell me where I can get Subcon and AD? (Are you getting tired
        of these too?)

     Seriously, if anyone out there is interested, the Japanese composer Toru
     Takemitsu died last Wednesday, he was 66. R.I.P.

     Another thing: I'm grateful to the fellow who is willing to make copies of
     Subconcious, but since the copy won't include the cover art or liner notes,
     etc., shouldn't it be a little cheaper?

     See ya,

        Scott Daugherty

     Oh yeah, by the way, I'm writing this in falsetto. :)

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    Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 14:59:56 -0800 (PST)
    From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
    To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Killing Hand, IRC, John Petrucci Sr.
    Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91j.960225143944.99629C-100000@homer12.u.washington.edu>

    > From: "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
    > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1280
    >
    > Hey gang, whats up?

    KILLING HAND!! KILLING HAND!!

    > Did I miss anything good in the last two weeks or did we just go back to
    > Ytsejam of old were everybody flamed everybody else and spoke of
    > everything BUT Dream Theater?

    That's basically it...but you did miss a really cooool drinking game.

    > I guess I'll make a new sig to celebrate the new mailing list. :)

    Hey, that's what I did! And it looks so much better than the old one!

    ----
    > IBcQABAAAAFgAAAAG6/zoSYC0IfphqkBHPpkRERVNUAAAAAB4AHgwBAAAAAwAAAE1TAAAeAB8M
    > AAABQAAABXaW5kb3dzL1N0ZXZlL1N0ZXZlAAMABhBiQlaaAwAHEA4FAAAeAAgQAQAAAGUAAABU
    > RIRU1BSk9STU9ST05XSE9QT1NURURUSElTT05USEVKQU0oIzEyNzgpLS1KVVNUV0hBVFRIRUZS
    > FLSVNZT1VSUFJPQkxFTT9JU0lUVEhBVFlPVUhPUEVUSEVZRE9EUlVHAAAAAAIBCRABAAAAjgUA
    > bFAACUBwAATFpGdSbuWR3/AAoBDwIVAqgF6wKDAFAC8gkCAGNoCsBzZXQyNwYABsMCgzIDxQIA
    > JCcRHic3RlbQKDM/cC5AcTAoB9CoAIzwnZAoAHCoENsQtgbmcxMDMPFFALChRRC/EgVG8gUHRo
    > AAwGoFsk9AUk9OIHdoGXBw2m8TwWQZgQQAIAIgGYMASmFtICgjMTIANzgpIC0tIGo2dRPAGoFh
    

    YES Derek Sherinian is in Wayne's World. In the part with Alice Cooper, you can see him standing around with rest of the band. It's right around Wayne and Garth bowing down with the "we're not worthy" routine.

    ---- > From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu> > Subject: The #ytsejam IRC Drinking Game > > Okay folx, due to the popularity of the Ytsejam Drinking Game, E-Man and > I thought we'd hop on the bandwidthwagon and respond with: > > The #ytsejam IRC Drinking Game

    I think DT did a song about this. "Only A Matter Of Time."

    ---- > From: John Hough <srvrip@qualcomm.com> > Subject: Please, Dear god! > > BRING BACK THE MODERATION!

    God's taking requests? Cool...

    Hey God, BRING BACK CARGO PANTS!! BRING BACK THE HELICOPTER AND THE CLOCK AND GLIDING!! BRING BACK THE IRON SHEIK!! BRING BACK HYPERCOLOR FABRIC!! BRING BACK MADBALLS!! BRING BACK SNAP-TITE MODELS!! BRING BACK THE MAP!! RETURN THE MAP!! RETUUUURN WHAT YOU HAVE STOLEN FROM MEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!

    ---- > From: augie@unix.asb.com (Heath) > Subject: Really Bad News!! :( > > JOHN PETRUCCI, FOUNDER OF COMPUTER SOFTWARE FIRM

    I wonder if DT will ever play "Another Day" again...

    > John, my heart is with you and I'm sure all the other jammers hearts are > also. We hope that you can stay strong through this tough time.

    Agreed.

    > Please everyone when you read this give ten seconds of silence for the > memory of John Edward Petrucci, I very special guy.

    ;( . . . .

    Bafu Vai

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