YTSEJAM Digest 1291
Today's Topics:
1) covering dt
by Ernesto Schnack <ernie@ns1.pananet.com>
2) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 02/25/96 - 03:25:13" <response@ibmmail.com>
3) Internet Music notation
by Ernesto Schnack <ernie@ns1.pananet.com>
4) Ytsejammers and Cow Outfits
by "Ryan Whitaker" <godfther@netcom.com>
5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1290
by Michael.Bradley@mail.cc.trincoll.edu (Michael Bradley)
6) Birch-hill
by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@freenet.scri.fsu.edu>
7) DT Compilation/Tribute thingy.
by Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
8) Re: Drinking Game
by drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh)
9) Re: Drink.
by drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh)
10) Nicko's drum gear
by Mark Smeets <msmeets@ibm.net>
11) Tori Amos and the jam
by ytsejammer <belhai@drew.edu>
12) ===>> FREE 1 yr. Magazine Sub sent worldwide- 295+ Popular USA Titles
by allison.eng3@uwcr.edu (Allison Eng)
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Date: Sun, 25 Feb 96 03:17:35 +0000 (GMT)
From: Ernesto Schnack <ernie@ns1.pananet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: covering dt
Message-ID: <199602250316.TAA04834@mindcrime.ax.com>
>least been rehearsed, and PMU and TTT have been played live by us. But to
>put together studio versions, even with a 4-track, the chances of a
>quality tape coming out of the other end is pretty dern slim unless we're
>using 8-track digital or something to that effect.
>
I can see your point, but IMHO I think what the whole point of it is that
it'll be done exclusively by ytsejammers...who cares about the quality... i
find the idea og getting a tape w/ certain stuff on it and then adding my
own part and sending i off to somebody else rather fun... I don't know,
Ijust like that kind stuff...ALTHOUGH I'm sure my band would love to record
'The YtseJam', or PMU...or maybe even AFiL...
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"We're on a mission from Rod. BUUUUURRPP!!"
Ernie ernie@mail.pananet.com
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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 22:25:47 EST
From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 02/25/96 - 03:25:13" <response@ibmmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mail Item Format Warning
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Date: Sun, 25 Feb 96 04:04:32 +0000 (GMT)
From: Ernesto Schnack <ernie@ns1.pananet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Internet Music notation
Message-ID: <199602250402.UAA05997@mindcrime.ax.com>
I found something on the web that might interest all you musician
jammers...it's a standard for writing musical notation thru the
internet...this way you can send transcriptions for piano or other
instruments besides guitar or bass over the internet.
It was developed by some guy and now they're trying to get people to use it
and for programmers to make software that can edit it or change it to a
graphic version of it in real notation...
you can find the info on how it works at:
http://www.dur.ac.uk/~d20u6s/imsspec.txt
in case I got it wrong you can get there thru Yahoo(music/sheet music/products)
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"We're on a mission from Rod. BUUUUURRPP!!"
Ernie ernie@mail.pananet.com
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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 22:09:03 +0000
From: "Ryan Whitaker" <godfther@netcom.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Ytsejammers and Cow Outfits
Message-ID: <199602250406.UAA28087@netcom10.netcom.com>
I had one cool dream last night.
I was at a school assembly (me being a senior in high school) and out
of nowhere, a group of about 20 guys pour in wearing really baggy,
black and white cow-spotted-looking clothes, with "Dream Theater" printed
all over them. I was thinking, wtf? I asked what they were doing and
they all said "Dream Theater's here man!" and I about flipped out.
Then I remember asking, "Wait, are any of you ytsejammers?" and they
all said they were and whatever. This was just too cool. Dream
Theater just started playing right during the assembly and I remember
looking over at the stage and there were five cow ytsejammers just
laying down on the stage, looking at DT. There was a huge mosh pit
there, and I remember looking at one of my friends and I was like,
"THIS is Dream Theater, aren't they cool!"
Hey Jason Giles, how about making some of those cow outfits for us
instead of tank tops? Then we could really make a name for
ourselves.. =)
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Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 00:23:21 -0500
From: Michael.Bradley@mail.cc.trincoll.edu (Michael Bradley)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1290
Message-ID: <v01520d01ad559f80905d@[157.252.65.110]>
Hey guys,
I rarely flame people, but the guy who wrote this is WAY out of line...
" I think Derek has a lot of talent. Me and my friends
just have this feeling that he's gay. If you watch the Awake in japan video,
to me it sounds like when James introduces Derek, that guy in the crowd is
shouting "I like men", and hten they put the camera on Derek, he raises his
arm, and if you read his lips, it looks like he's saying "I'm a homo". Just a
thought."
First of all, you're an idiot. Secondly, Derek was probably saying "Domo,"
which I think means basically "lots" in Japanese. "Domo Arigato" means
"Thank you very much," but Derek probably thought that "Domo" meant
"Thanks" and "Arigato" meant "Very Much"--a logical mistake for an
American.
This guy's other point...
" I'm not wondering if he will fit in. I never thought he did. He doesn't
have the look, and how old is he?
FLAME AWAY!"
With pleasure. Derek looks younger than James LaBrie, and probably is.
Also, WHAT is "the look?" Long permed hair? Would that make him a better
keyboard player? For your information, that's what Derek used to look like.
Check out Wayne's World. Image is bullshit, and I'd be ashamed to be part
of a list where people think that Derek doesn't fit in because he dresses
differently! Fortunately, I know most Jammers totally disagree with putting
value on image. If we did, we'd all be listening to grunge, wouldn't we?
Find a new mailing list! Might I suggest the Yngwie Malmsteen page? HIS
keyboardist still has long hair.
Sorry this is so strong guys...it's only directed to the guy who wrote the
post. Later!
-Mike Bradley
P.S.--Still desperately looking for a copy of "Subconcious" or LatM.
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Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 00:51:43 -0500 (EST)
From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@freenet.scri.fsu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Birch-hill
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.960225004906.14711A-100000@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu>
Just got the Birch-Hill show tapes and all I hafta say is a BIG Thank-you
to Brian for his work, time, and money spent to do this (equipment is
expensive) and Big thanks to Doug Merrell <sp?> who personally brought me
the tapes. This show Rocks!!!!! I just wish I could've afforded to have
been there on the 29th. *Sigh* Oh well...hopefully there's more tapes to
come in the future! For those who don't have their tapes yet...This is
WELL worth the wait! C-ya guys later!
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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 23:19:05 -0700
From: Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT Compilation/Tribute thingy.
Message-ID: <199602250619.XAA09419@maple.enet.net>
>A solution of this is to have player #1 (probably bass) lay down his track,
>send it to player #2 (probably percussion) listen and add, but put his
track on
>a separate tape. Send them to the keys guy and put his part on another tape
>and keep sending them until the vocals guy has 5 tapes. Then send all 5 tapes
>to a mixer person who will do a very conservative mix including all parts in
>reasonable compliment to each other.
Good idea! We have Ryan Redfern who has access to a "ADAT XT! Woo-Hoo
DIGITAL!!!". I have no idea what that means, but he sounded pretty excited
about it, dontcha think? :-) :-)
>What if we all just recorded instruments of our choice
>along with the Cd or something, then we could send the tapes into one
>mixing guy, and he could do the rest from there? I think it would be
>cool & fun!
Yeah...but if somebody's CD player is slow, we have a bunch of different
tempos to deal with. I still think if we wait till summer, we may be able
to actually get a few people in a studio to play together. That would kick
ass...huh-huhCOOL!huhuhu... :-) Of course, there's been a bunch of
different ideas of what to do....why not do them ALL, being that there's no
time limit?
>You're giving the 'Jam a very bad name. Especially by not saying anything.
No...he's giving himSELF a bad name. What does the Jam have to prove to anyone?
>>Ahh...that's an easy one! I'd like to hear you pronounce MY name! :-)
>
>LAW-SAYD :)
BZZ!!!! Wrong.
>P.S. Vote Ben Laussade for Rolling Stone's Best Drummer!
Wait a sec...I never drummed for the Rolling Stones! :-)
GUESS WHAT!!!!!!!!
I made it into the Academy of Performing Arts!!!!! (high school) WOO
freaking HOO!!!!!!!
Ben Lau...ah....ahh....CHOO!!!! sade
My head won't leave my head alone.
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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 22:54:31 PST
From: drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Drinking Game
Message-ID: <199602250654.WAA16799@netcom3.netcom.com>
What? People complaining about too many posts about the drinking game?
What?? You thought this was a progressive music list dedicated to Dream
Theater??? Nooo... it's the Bafu, Drinking Game list...
ytsejam is what happens when you play music drunk...
-The Doc
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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 22:57:21 PST From: drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Drink. Message-ID: <199602250657.WAA17310@netcom3.netcom.com>
On the Eve of Destruction, DreamNDay@aol.com said: >This is just because I had to post one more to make it five in a row. So >drink up. >later--------------Brian
Hey man, shut-up!!! People are complaining about the drinks...
:)
(as I grab a margarita)
back to the magaritajam...
-The Doc
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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 23:26:34 PST From: Mark Smeets <msmeets@ibm.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Nicko's drum gear Message-ID: <199602250731.HAA25186@pop01.ny.us.ibm.net>
** Reply to note from ytsejam@ax.com 02/24/96 7:11pm -0800
ok guys, this is McBrains drum gear from the last tour, Nicko doesn't change his rig much. What he does do is change the position of his drum set every gig, clive burr did the same thing too.
Nicko McBrain - Sonor custom kit: 24" x 18" Bass drum with Ludwig Speed King foot pedal, 18" x 19" floor tom, 6.5" x 14" Bell Bronze custom snare, 6", 8", 12", 13", 14", 15" and 16" hanging toms, 9-ply beechwood custom shelves Paiste Signature series cymbals: 13" heavy bell, 16", 17", 19" and 20" power crash, 20" full crash, 22" crash, two 18" heavy china, 22" power ride, 1 pair 15" Sound Edge hi-hats Nicko McBrain Signature Series sticks by Shawstix Beyer Dynamic mics
YOu can get more info from the Maiden FAQ which can be reached through my page, which is in my sig. As you can see, no double bass peddle and I doubt he'd ever switch to one. Speaking of which, does MP ever change his drum set up around during gigs, like, have his toms in other places?
I still think Maiden/DT/Fates WArning tour is in order
Mark
/---------------http://140.141.22.35/stranger/stranger.htm-------------------------------------------\ How the hell did Jannick go from good to shit? He played great on Bruce's Tattooed Millionaire cd but he plays shitty live with Maiden...Whats the deal?
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Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 03:06:40 -0500 (EST) From: ytsejammer <belhai@drew.edu> To: ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Tori Amos and the jam Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.91.960225030401.578955102B-100000@drew.edu>
It just makes me wonder...
The ytsejam talk about Tori, but wouldn't be cool if the Tori Amos digest mentioned Dream Theater every so often. I don't know if they do or not, I'm just assuming that they do not.
...Brandon
P.S. To anyone on this list that goes to Drew. Speak up! I feel like I'm the only one here on the entire campus with "subconscious", "AD" and other DT shit.
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