YTSEJAM digest 1295

From: ytsejam@ax.com
Date: Tue Feb 27 1996 - 02:19:15 EST

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    Today's Topics:

      1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1292
     by babs@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu (Barb Battaglia)
      2) Interesting reviews
     by nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop)
      3) Birch Hill Show....
     by Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
      4) tour dates
     by "James Wiseman (Mr Who?)" <ma5jw@bath.ac.uk>
      5) DT covers
     by "matt" <meg147@psu.edu>
      6) Subscibe
     by Sniper <marc_pe@alcor.concordia.ca>
      7) DTrib!
     by "The Great Wally Llama." <wdlehmku@hilltop.ic.edu>
      8) general stuff
     by BILL HUSTON <HUSTON@IOMEGA.COM>
      9) Formal appologies...
     by mojoman@pointblank.com
     10) JP's classy vid
     by KOPCSODA@vaxvmsx.babson.edu
     11) Censorship protest
     by "Close your eyes and see what you're doing to me? -Kevin Moore,
     12) Re: John Petrucci Workshops in Germany!
     by jbako01 <jbako01@barney.poly.edu>
     13) replies
     by scheponi@etf6.ctc.com (Scheponik, Kristoffer)
     14) I rule
     by World Wide Web User <www@columbia.edu>
     15) WANTED
     by Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
     16) Facade
     by STEVE <STEVE@kandu.com>
     17) HELP! HELP! HELP!
     by BERTAPELLE ADAM RAYE <bertapel@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>

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    Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 08:46:31 -0500 (EST)
    From: babs@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu (Barb Battaglia)
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1292
    Message-ID: <v01510102ad5723f88336@[137.238.26.12]>

    Hello everyone. I wanted to take a few minutes and write something serious
    (unusual for me, I know).

    I know that we all have been enjoying the freedom of the revised 'jam, but
    I am really kind of bothered about a couple issues. I don't really feel
    that it's important to discuss whether or not the band members have ever
    been under the influence of drugs, etc. and I don't feel that it's
    important to have a big discussion on Derek's sexual
    preferences/orientation. I feel that we are getting farther and farther
    away from the music. I'll be honest with you, I've had similar questions
    that I've asked people - just out of curiousity or wanting to know a little
    bit more about them as a band, but the idea of spilling it all out into the
    'jam just isn't right. Think of how you would feel if it were you being
    put under the microscope?

    "See my diary on the newsstand, seems we've lost the truth to quicksand..."

    Think about that line for a little bit.

    -BABS

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    Date: Mon, 26 Feb 96 15:01:04 +0100
    From: nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop)
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Cc: nga@server3.software-ag.de
    Subject: Interesting reviews
    Message-ID: <9602261401.AA00296@sundoc13.software-ag.de>

    Hi all

    I'm in a generous mood today (my first pay rise for 2 1/2 years just came in),
    so I want to share something good with you.

    This morning, I was digging around the web looking for information about the
    amazing English band SKYCLAD, and I came across a review of one of their albums
    in something calling itself 'The War Against Silence'. This is a weekly music
    review, and it contains some of the best album reviews that I have read for a
    long time. It is intelligent, witty and well written. There is also a band index
    available, together with an archive of back issues. The review of ACoS is by
    far the best I have read. If you want to check it out (and I recommend you do)
    here is the address

    http://metaverse.com/vibe/twas/

    Don't be disappointed if there is nothing about one of your favourite bands in
    there: the guy who writes the reviews does it in his spare time and for free,
    even if he does get a little confused at times, or did you know that JAMES
    Petrucci plays guitar for Dream Theater? If anybody actually bothers to check
    this stuff out, I would be interested to hear what you think of it.

    While I'm rattling on about SKYCLAD, I can only urge you all to get an earful
    of this band. There are already a few other jammers who are into them, but it
    would be shame for the rest of you to miss a band this good.

    Enough for today. I'm off to see Silverchair tonight (yes, it is possible to
    like Dream Theater *and* Silverchair), so I'm knocking off work early.

    stay safe and happy listening
    Neil Gallop
    (nga@software-ag.de)

    Currently playing: Skyclad - Irrational Anthems

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    Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 09:03:25 -0500 (EST)
    From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Birch Hill Show....
    Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960226090023.9559B-100000@choplifter.rs.itd.umich.edu>

    Hey all, got a question about the Birc Hill show that I'll be getting in
    the mail shortly.....anybody come up with a "boot"-name for it?

    Second, Lars H....they also played Satriani over the intros for the (hockey)
    All-Star game the next day....did you catch that? (Or was I the ONLY one?)

                    partha mukhopadhyay

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    Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 12:35:58 +0000 (GMT)
    From: "James Wiseman (Mr Who?)" <ma5jw@bath.ac.uk>
    To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: tour dates
    Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960226123515.11053E-100000@slc-27>

            Can anyone tell me a site on the net where I can find Dream Theater
    tour dates??

            Jimbob

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    Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 10:32:13 -0500 (EST)
    From: "matt" <meg147@psu.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: DT covers
    Message-ID: <37946.meg147@email.psu.edu>

    As far as the covers are concerned, would it be cool to do an entire song by
    myself. I would like to try my hand at "The Ytsejam". But, I have to get my
    hands on some TABS. If anyone can help me out I would really appreciate it.
    Thanks a lot.

    ****************************************************************************
    DAYBREAK AT THE BOTTOM OF A LAKE, IT'S A HUNDRED DEGEES I CAN'T BREATH...
                                                                   Dream Theater
    ****************************************************************************

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    Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 11:29:55 -0500 (EST)
    From: Sniper <marc_pe@alcor.concordia.ca>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Subscibe
    Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.960226112702.808A-100000@alcor.concordia.ca>

            Hi my name is Marco Perrotta. I'm a huge Dream Theater fan and
    would like to be part of the fan mailing list.

    Thanks
    Marco.
    E-mail address: marc_pe@alcor.concordia.ca

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    Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 11:04:00 -0600 (CST)
    From: "The Great Wally Llama." <wdlehmku@hilltop.ic.edu>
    To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: DTrib!
    Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.960226105443.21221A-100000@hilltop.ic.edu>

    I'd just like to post that it is not all that difficult doing things bit
    by bit! Sound quality remains good if not great because everything can
    go in direct. Recording the songs and parts depends on the situation,
    some might have to trust their partners to mix as they go(in VHS or even
    reg. 2track audio). As for the support of the project, we now have
    about 10 people who are willing. some problems will arise over the
    summer because some (like me ) won't have an e-mail account except at
    work, which means it gets a little expensive. There is no deadline on
    this project so far, so people who want to do it over the summer have the
    time to do so, communications to and from guys like me will have to be
    snail-mail or by phone, which is still no big prob. Also, it can be
    surprising how much fun it is to play something with a totally new cast!
    I'm recording stuff now with a guy from France!(I live in IL.) Also,
    I've never had the opportunity to play along with keyboards, and thru
    this type of project I got to do so!! Give the project a chance if you
    have musical talent, you could be pleasantly surprised!!!

    Peace out!

    ***********************************************************

    "Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most."

    ***********************************************************

    -Dev #17-

    wdlehmku@hilltop.ic.edu

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    Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 10:08:26 -0700
    From: BILL HUSTON <HUSTON@IOMEGA.COM>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: general stuff
    Message-ID: <s13185be.063@IOMEGA.COM>

    'Lo jammers
      Lately I've seen several things on the jam I want to respond to:
     To Jill: You mentioned that females are usually introduced to
    mellower music and classical more often than men. Hey, this should
    give women an advantage to listening to prog rock. This is by far the
    most challenging type of music to listen to. I, with you, am
    surprised that there aren't more female prog jammers just because of
    this.
      Scott Cook: Fired AO HELL eh? Good move.
       My condolences to the Petrucci family. John Sr. must have been a
    good father in that we see and hear the final product John Jr. that
    he mentored (not necessarily musically).
       IVANHOE: I've seen a lot mentioned about Symbols Of Time. I have
    both CD's, and personally, I like Visions and Reality more because it
    is a little more progressive. The singing is not as refined on this
    one but it isn't offensive at all-just different. I got mine through
    Lasercd@aol.com.
      Am awaiting my copy of Superior from Jason Skewes. With all the
    hype about this band, I just had to order it, sound unheard. It
    worked for Ivanhoe so why not this?
      My cockatiels just hatched 2 babies. I have named them Bafu Vai and
    Ytse-Ben. Now I'll be up every two hours to feed them. You have to do
    this as they relentlessly screech for attention-hence, the names. ;>
    Their parents are named Mutt and Gizmo.
       Well that's enough rambling and if anyone was able to drink cuz of
    what I said, GOOD!

    Later,
    Wilmo

    ====================================================================
    .. you can cover up your guts, but when you cover up your nuts,
    you're admitting that there must be something wrong.
    .. It all looks fine to the naked eye, but it don't really happen
    that way at all. John Entwistle "Naked Eye"
    ====================================================================

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    Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 12:26:04 -0500
    From: mojoman@pointblank.com
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Formal appologies...
    Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.2.26.12.26.4.2377490627.1226178@pointblank.com>

           I want to send appologies out to all the people I responded to
    in relation to the Tori Amos thing...

           I know this is no excuse, but I had a bad weekend...and seeing
    the flaming, pissed me off, beyond excuse.

           I got mad, I had a right to get mad, what I should not have done
    is publically start my flaming into the Jam itself...

                           M O J O M A N

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    Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 12:26:59 -0500 (EST)
    From: KOPCSODA@vaxvmsx.babson.edu
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: JP's classy vid
    Message-ID: <01I1O3CBBQ3M8X0O9C@vaxvmsx.babson.edu>

    Has anyone checked out JP's guitar video? Holy Shit! It was incredible.
    Best vid from any guitarist yet. (Shawn Lane and Al Petrelli came close.)
    DO NOT get the last Steve Vai-what a piece of dingos kidneys. Every guitarist
    should get JP's-unbelievable.
    P.S.--anybody know when the release date on Fates Warning's new record is?
    Shemp

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    Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 13:31:51 EST
    From: "Close your eyes and see what you're doing to me? -Kevin Moore,
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Censorship protest
    Message-ID: <0099E7D7.3FFD9A60.86@bigvax.alfred.edu>

    > >_____________________________________________________________________
    > >To whoever may read this,
    > >This is not a typical chain letter, in that by passing it on to as
    > >many people as you can, you are taking part in what may yet become
    > >the world's biggest practical joke. The U.S. Government has recently
    > >passed an act which enforces censorship on the internet. A group of
    > >internet users has now come together to kick back at this oppression,
    > >and have a bit of fun at the same time.
    > >The aim of this exercise is to re-establish the United States as "The
    > >land of the Free", not a fascist state where freedom of speech and
    > >thought are curtailed.
    > >On receiving this letter, please pass it on to as many friends or
    > >E-mail lists as you can. We predict that if everybody copies the
    > >letter to 5 other addresses, by February 29th 1996, this letter
    > >should have reached in excess of 2 million people. That's when the
    > >fun begins........
    > >On February 29th, please send the message:

    > >Dear Mr. President,
    > >Do you remember this:
    > >
    > >And afterwards enclose the pre-typed copy of the Bill of rights. By
    > >sending the letter on the date above, you will contribute to
    > >one huge petition for freedom (which may lead to an unintended crash of
    > >the whitehouse server...). Send all letters to:
    > >President@Whitehouse.gov
    > >
    > >Remember that solidarity is the key to success
    > > THE BILL OF RIGHTS
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Amendment I
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
    > > prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of
    > > speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to
    > > assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Amendment II
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free
    > > state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be
    > > infringed.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Amendment III
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without
    > > the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be
    > > prescribed by law.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Amendment IV
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers,
    > > and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
    > > violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause,
    > > supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the
    > > place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Amendment V
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous
    > > crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except
    > > in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when
    > > in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any
    > > person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of
    > > life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a
    > > witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or
    > > property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be
    > > taken for public use, without just compensation.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Amendment VI
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a
    > > speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and
    > > district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district
    > > shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of
    > > the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the
    > > witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining
    > > witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his
    > > defense.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Amendment VII
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed
    > > twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no
    > > fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any court of
    > > the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Amendment VIII
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor
    > > cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Amendment IX
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be
    > > construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Amendment X
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
    > > prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states
    > > respectively, or to the people.
    > >
    > > -------------------------------------

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    Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 18:55:57 -0500 (EST)
    From: jbako01 <jbako01@barney.poly.edu>
    To: Ties Goebel <goebel@inf.fu-berlin.de>
    Subject: Re: John Petrucci Workshops in Germany!
    Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960224185333.16506A-100000@barney>

    On Sat, 24 Feb 1996, Ties Goebel wrote:

    > Hi 'jammers!
    > Good news for those of you who live in Germany or not too far away!
    > John Petrucci and Mike Portnoy will be at the Frankfurter Musikmesse
    > (March 13-17) and John Petrucci will be going on a workshop tour after that,
    > I don't know about Portnoy...
    > Here are the dates:
    > March 20, Musikproduktiv Six, Four & More, Ibbenbueren
    > March 21, Musik Aktiv, Paderborn
    > March 22, Musikfachgeschaeft Landry, Saarbruecken
    > March 23, Roadstar Music Dreamland, Eisingen
    > March 25, Session Musik, Walldorf
    > March 26, Purple Guitars, Kulmbach
    > March 27, Guitar-Shop, Berlin :) :) :)
    > March 28, Musikhaus Keller, Kiel

    With all these clinic dates, not to mention the passing of Petrucci, Sr.
    (my condolences John, if you read this), does anyone wonder if we will
    ever see a DT album released within 1996? Somehow, that September release
    date seems like only a dream (pun intended :))

    Later,

    James Bako "Don't tell me you wanted me
    jbako01@barney.poly.edu Don't tell me you thought of me
    Polytechnic University I won't, I swear I won't
    Brooklyn, New York I'll try, I swear I'll try"
                                          Dream Theater - "Lie"

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    Date: 26 Feb 96 16:32:54 EST
    From: scheponi@etf6.ctc.com (Scheponik, Kristoffer)
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: replies
    Message-ID: <B6F02C51018B1B76@-SMF->

    Thanks to Ed Ballinger & Sean Haider for the info.

    Someone said they're sick of certain questions being asked over and over.
     Oh well, sorry 'bout this one: How can I get a copy of WDATU? I
    haven't found WDADU yet, but the majority of the posts I've seen recently
    favor LaBrie of Chuckie D. I'd at least like to check both of them out,
    anyways.

    To Ernesto Schnack: Whether it's WDADU or WDATU, I imbibed my share of
    alcohol this past weekend to make up for any that I owe.

    To K.W. Madden:

              Where is Overkill playing in DC? I'd rather see them in Pittsburgh
    (much closer and I'm more familiar with Pitt. -- haven't heard anything
    about them coming, though) but I may be able to make a road trip. I
    haven't seen them since The Years of Decay tour -- but it was one helluva
    show!! If anyone else out there is thinking of going to see them, make
    sure you do!!

    Someone posted something about Sepultura (Roots). I haven't heard it
    yet, but there's another group you do not want to miss on tour!! I saw
    them with Pantera last year -- damn good!

    I just saw that Iron Maiden re-released a lot of old shit with extra
    tracks included. Killers has a live version of "Phantom of the Opera" on
    it. Does anyone know if Bruce sings on this track? My guess is that
    it's the same track that was on the Live After Death tape, but omitted
    from the CD (Boy did that piss me off!!) Can anyone confirm that?

    Kris

    Who are you? The New Number Two
    Who is Number One? You are Number Six
    I am not a number, I am a free man!!!

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

                          

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    Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 15:45:22 -0500 (EST)
    From: World Wide Web User <www@columbia.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: I rule
    Message-ID: <199602262045.PAA06683@kwaziwai.cc.columbia.edu>

    Hey d00dz! gIvE Me WaReZ NoW.!

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    Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 15:07:00 -0700
    From: Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: WANTED
    Message-ID: <199602262207.PAA14339@maple.enet.net>

    Greetings:

            There is another idea spawned from my DT cover tree thingy (Seth
    Hatlelid's idea). It's a rather large thing, but we're going to attempt to
    write Metropolis Pt. II. So far, we have drums, guitars and bass....so if
    you play keys or sing, let me know!!!!!! After writing it, the plan is to
    (somehow) get together and record it in an actual studio. Also, if you want
    to pitch in with lyrics, let me know too. I think the first step is to come
    up with a title. Metropolis Pt. 2: The something something something....or
    something. DO NOT send ideas by themselves to the Jam. Add one to a post,
    or send them to me, but not to the Jam by itself. We don't want to start
    another Top 5 thing. Welp, thazall!!!!!!!!!

    Ben Laussade

    "Ya know, if you stand back a few yards and squint, he looks almost normal."

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    Date: Mon, 26 Feb 96 11:16:39
    From: STEVE <STEVE@kandu.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Facade
    Message-ID: <4872C62F01810F00@kandu.com>

    hi people - i hope you don't mind a little shameless self-promotion...

    my band, Facade, has a new CD due out March 21. we are a progressive
    HR/HM band with influences ranging from DT, FW, Kansas, Saga, Pearl
    Jam, Rush, and even Hootie & Blowfish (well, sort of).

    anyway, check out:

    http://www.kandu.com/dreg/facade.html

    and find out more and download some song samples.

    If there's anyone whose support i can rely on, it is the dedicated
    readers of the 'jam and supporters of the progressive music
    movement...

    -steve / FACADE

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    Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 15:55:05 -0700 (MST)
    From: BERTAPELLE ADAM RAYE <bertapel@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: HELP! HELP! HELP!
    Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960226155218.20175A-100000@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>

    I was (suposedly) dubbing the Kevin Moore Demos for a trade I have
    together, and I put the tapes in the wrong tape deck....erased side 1 of
    the demos!!! DOOT!! Would anybody be willing to let me send them my
    tape with return postage so they can re-record side 1 of the demos? I
    would greatly appreciate it. I'm such an idiot!!! Thanks in advance!
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    ->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->
    Adam R. Bertapelle "If there's a pensive fear, a wasted year
    bertapel@ucsu.colorado.edu a man must learn to cope
                                    If his obsession's real, supression that he
    Ask for my bootleg list! feels must turn to hope."
                                    Dream Theater, "Take The Time"
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