YTSEJAM Digest 1299
Today's Topics:
1) YtseShirts Update
by "Trey (T-Stretch) Allen" <tallen@junix.ju.edu>
2) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 02/28/96 - 00:25:01" <response@ibmmail.com>
3) Mape....
by "Jill M. Lentchner" <jmlentch@mailbox.syr.edu>
4) Peart, DT's future
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
5) What the hell?
by Jeff Stewart <stewaj01@condor.stcloud.msus.edu>
6) Stuff
by "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@moose.uvm.edu>
7) Tape thingie
by kretschmer@bdt.com (Jon Kretschmer)
8) Bruce Dickinson
by borlangw <borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk>
9) Re:10 years later....
by bflynn@sps.edu (Ben Flynn)
10) Thunder's moronic statement
by curth@execpc.com
11)
by Paul Mc Clelland <clelland@ecn.purdue.edu>
12) Letterman, Content, Progressiveness of Music, Progressive Metal List
by Michael Backof <mbacko1@gl.umbc.edu>
13) Ytse-Ben...
by Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu>
14)
by WildKoba@aol.com
15) Peart gay?
by constabl@postoffice.ptd.net
16) Yeah right.
by Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
17) Re: DT's future
by KTYA28B@prodigy.com (MS DEBBIE M VESTAL)
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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 96 19:24:52 -0500
From: "Trey (T-Stretch) Allen" <tallen@junix.ju.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: YtseShirts Update
Message-ID: <9602280024.AA15771@junix.ju.edu>
Well I know its about time but the ytsejam shirts should finally be reaching
your homes soon. I have sent mnost all of them and plan to finish them all
by Thurs or Fri. I have had nothing but Excellent comments from those who
recieved them and will definately be doing more fairly soon. There have
been many requests for more so if you want them, let me know. I also have a
fair number of extra tees so if you want one go ahead and let me know. I
will post a full "leftover" list at the end of this week. Thanks everyone!!
Bye!
=="Tonight I'll still be lying here surrounded in all the light." - Dream
Theater==
Trey Allen (T-Stretch) 904-721-1362 Jacksonvile Fl.
tallen@junix.ju.edu
=========== http://www.ju.edu/UsrWebPages/tallen/home.html ============
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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 19:25:54 EST
From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 02/28/96 - 00:25:01" <response@ibmmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mail Item Format Warning
Message-ID: <199602280026.QAA12391@mindcrime.ax.com>
The mail item that you sent at 00:25:44 GMT on 28 Feb 1996 has been delivered.
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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 19:31:58 -0500 (EST)
From: "Jill M. Lentchner" <jmlentch@mailbox.syr.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mape....
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960227192309.1873C-100000@forbin.syr.edu>
This is just a quick response to Mape. I wish I could help you out on
your little female troubles but I am drawing a blank. The only thing I
can come up with is an excuse but I am sure you would have seen it if
that was all. I can honestly say that I don't understand ninety percent
of women, especially when it comes to music.
DT content, anyone? Does anyone actually know how many of us
there are (I know someone said something before but I can't remember) and
what sex we all are? Just curious. I hate to continue the whole Derek
thing but I have to put in my two cents that I think he is a great
addition being that Kevin was a loss that could never actually be
replaced. I do not think that his sexuality means anything unless you
want to tell him to keep doing what he is doing because it is going quite
well!!!
Have a good day all. Plato: music of the universe.
Jill
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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 19:47:30 -0500 (EST)
From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Peart, DT's future
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9602271905.A19499-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
> From: thunder@UFCC.UFL.EDU
> Subject: The "John Petrucci" Sound
>
> On a different note, whats the bullshit about Sherinian sexuality, who
> gives a fuck!, Ive been listening to Rush for years, even though Peart is gay.
What? Does his wife know?
----> From: KTYA28B@prodigy.com (MS DEBBIE M VESTAL) > Subject: 10 years later.... > > I agree in part...but I just have a feeling that the !@$#$ idiots in > radio programming have it in for prog rock...and will have it in for it > until and unless progressive groups sell out to the 4 minute format. 20 > minute masterpieces don't leave much room for commercials, doncha' know.
Yeah, but people were saying the same things about REM ten years ago, and Nirvana/Pearl Jam/etc five years ago. Don't give up hope on that one.
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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 19:09:14 -0600 (CST) From: Jeff Stewart <stewaj01@condor.stcloud.msus.edu> To: Ytsejam Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: What the hell? Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.91.960227190252.7642A-100000@condor.stcloud.msus.edu>
>Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 15:19:14 EST >From: thunder@UFCC.UFL.EDU > > On a different note, whats the bullshit about Sherinian sexuality, who >gives a fuck!, Ive been listening to Rush for years, even though Peart is gay. ^^^^^^^^^^^^
What the hell, dude? Where did you get this from? Correct me if I'm wrong, but Neil has a wife. Does he not? Just because he wrote a song like "Nobody's Hero" doesn't mean he is gay. In actuality, if you look carefully enough at the lyrics and open your ears, you'll find he was writing about a friend of his. Please get your facts straight before you post next time, ok?
Sorry for the non-DT content...
_____________________________________________________________________________ Jeff Stewart |"Progressive music isn't about being stewaj01@condor.stcloud.msus.edu | cool, it's about being yourself... stewaj01@tigger.stcloud.msus.edu | and most of all, it's ABOUT MUSIC." http://condor.stcloud.msus.edu/~stewaj01| --Steve Borzilleri (BKA Bafu Vai) -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 20:41:48 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@moose.uvm.edu> To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Stuff Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.960227203351.141916A-100000@moose.uvm.edu>
First, John Ruddess (or however you spell it) was NOT playing at the 2nd Awake show, Derek was. I know because I was there. He wasn't too bad, although he was late with a couple of cues. Regardless, he was FAR better than I would have been if I had to step into Portnoy's shoes that late in the game. I'm glad to see that the "is Derek gay"-thing was meant only as a joke. It was a silly topic. Who gives a fuck? Although I am curious if it is true that Peart is gay, as some jammer reported. It doesn't matter, it's just something I wasn't previously aware of. Later.
Richie
currently playing- "Ytsejam" on WDATU. Pretty spooky.
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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 17:22:08 +0800 From: kretschmer@bdt.com (Jon Kretschmer) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Tape thingie Message-ID: <v01510100ad587d9db10c@[206.14.103.54]>
Uh, if you guys need a killer trumpet on that YtseJam tape thing, you know my email address : )
Jon
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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 01:22:22 GMT From: borlangw <borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Bruce Dickinson Message-ID: <9602280122.AA14741@speedwell.dcs.gla.ac.uk>
I was chatting to Bruce Dickinson earlier today, and he completely and utterly failed to comment on my DT t-shirt :-( I was secretly hoping his eyes would light up, and he'd start talking to me about how much he loved singing with them and having them on his radio show, but alas . . .
Anyway, his new "Skunkworks" album is quite nice :-)
Graham B. ____________________________________________________________________________ | | | Graham Borland, borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk, http://www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~borlangw |:: |____________________________________________________________________________|:: ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 21:14:35 -0500 (EST) From: bflynn@sps.edu (Ben Flynn) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re:10 years later.... Message-ID: <v01510100ad5923d01648@[199.95.40.23]>
>I think that about four or five years from now Dream Theater will be what >Nirvana was about four or five years ago. That is to say, everyone will >be "discovering" prog-rock-metal-whatever because EastWest smelled the >coffee and did a little promotion. And what they will be discovering is >the new DT single, much the same way that "Teen Spirit" broke open the >grunge scene. However, I also think that Dream Theater is going to ride >the crest of that wave for a long time and not die out like Nirvana did. >Rather, I see all the prog bands like DT, Fates, Shadow Gallery, etc., >helping each other out. As for us, we'll still be around, 'jamming like >always. Except some of us will probably be teleconferencing, instead of >reading e-mail. And we'll probably be watching the band on this infernal >metal box as well.
Man, I get your point, put don't deface the name of DT by even mentioning such horrible joke bands as Nirvana on the same page. This band and the millions that followed its noisy, untalented lead dragged music into an all time low that we just beginning to recover from. For the life of me I still can't believe anyone in their right mind ever bought one of these albums. (Just my opinion:))
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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 20:46:28 -0600 (CST) From: curth@execpc.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Thunder's moronic statement Message-ID: <199602280246.UAA02147@earth.execpc.com>
thunder@UFCC.UFL.EDU said >>On a different note, whats the bullshit about Sherinian sexuality, who gives a fuck!, Ive been listening to Rush for years, even though Peart is gay. and finally I must ask WHEN ARE DREAM THEATER GOING TO COME TO FLORIDA!!!!!, Ive been waiting for 4 years and I cant seem to catch them........<<
Well, I don't care about Derek's sexuality, but I'll say this - your are gonna get flamed off your ass for that ridiculous statement about Neil you idiot!! Where the hell do you come up with that? Oh that's right, Neil confesses he's gay in Nobody's Hero - read the lyrics you twat! The man has been married since the 70's and has a daughter and has never said anything about screwing guys. Get your facts straight!!
Scott Hansen curth@execpc.com
PS I must add that chances are that Derek is not gay - I'm sure Jason Breitweg (or is that Buttwug? :) ) will attest to Derek's having at least one female on each arm backstage at the Milwaukee (11/4/94) show.
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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 22:40:14 -0500 From: Paul Mc Clelland <clelland@ecn.purdue.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Message-ID: <199602280340.WAA19644@atom.ecn.purdue.edu>
Hey dudes!
>testis, testis, one, two,.....three??? > >Lata > >Thunder >PS excuse my waste of bandwidth.....
Need I even comment? This guy probably likes Coolio!
Had a few responses to my first post, and actually found a nearby jammer! I've got the usual 5 CD's of any DT fan, but I need boots man! Maybe get me a copy or two? Ytsejam is great! And for those of you who still spell it ystejam...get a clue.
Commenting on DT's future, I am wondering what will happen if they do become as popular as Nirvana someday...do you think Weird Al will make a parody of one of their songs, kinda like Pull My Finger? An artist knows they've got it good when he starts spoofing their songs, so we know DT will REALLY have hit the big time. That's my prediction for DT's future...Weird Al will spoof a song, and who knows, maybe even an album cover???
Pauly
---"Because you know, life is like a mop. And sometimes it gets filled with dirt and crud and bugs and hair balls, but you gotta clean it out. You gotta get down and rinse it out, and if that doesn't work, you can't give up. You gotta scrub real good, and if that still doesn't work, you can't give up. You gotta run to a window and yell "THESE FLOORS ARE DIRTY AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANY MORE!!!!!!!!!!"
-Stanley Spadowski (aka Cosmo Kramer) from Weird Al's _UHF_
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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 22:59:46 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Backof <mbacko1@gl.umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Letterman, Content, Progressiveness of Music, Progressive Metal List Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.960227225000.14759A-100000@umbc8.umbc.edu>
Hello Jammers,
re:Letterman
Nope, Dream Theater hasn't been on Letterman, bumped or anything. King Crimson got bumped on Letterman over the summer while Letterman was in England and they later played on Conan O'Brian, so some people may be thinking of them.
re:Content
Well since good old anarchy has returned, Jam content is going into the toilet, go figure. I'll have to hold my breath and see how long I last, if I turn blue by the end of the sixth digest in my box, I'll let you know.
re:Progressiveness
I wouldn't call progressive rock a terribly challenging style of music to listen to on a whole. It is more difficult than a lot of pop, but there is a lot of jazz fusion that is more difficult than prog-rock. Deus Ex Machina's "The Republic" is damn hard to get into.
re:Progresive Metal List (Erik Welty)
Erik's new progressive metal band list is up on my WWW site at
http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~mbacko1/progmetal.txt
It contains an extensive list of progressive metal bands and short reviews. Just got it in my box a few minutes ago, revised 2/27/96. I still haven't HTMLed it yet so it is a text file in alphabetical order.
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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 22:03:17 -0600 (CST) From: Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu> To: Ytsejelly <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Ytse-Ben... Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.960227215819.9138A-100000@indy27.gclab.missouri.edu>
>> Ben is French. His surname is pronounced La-sod, or in english, The >>git. hehe - it's what's for breakfast.
>Ben is foreign, and he has a Portuguese name - Lo Sad. The English >translation is "The Guy Whose Sig Is Not Changed Often Enough".
Uh, pardon me, but I think that Ben is the ultimate authority on what nationality he is. Why don't we ask him? Ben? Care to clear this up?
As for the pronunciation, how 'bout:
"La" (as in "Do Re Mi Fa So La Te Do") + "Sawed" ^^ Could it be coincidence that it sounds so much like the abbreviation of "Lifting Shadows Off a Dream"
And why is "abbreviation" such a long word? h t t p : / / w w w . m i s s o u r i . e d u / ~ c 6 7 5 3 1 1 / | Pat Griffin Reality2 Design | | c675311@showme.missouri.edu c675311@cclabs.missouri.edu | h t t p : / / w w w . m i s s o u r i . e d u / ~ c 6 7 5 3 1 1 /
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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 23:30:53 -0500 From: WildKoba@aol.com Message-ID: <199602280430.XAA22856@emout05.mail.aol.com>
ore about all the shit i've read lately.
anyways, the guy who posted the fight against "dream THEATRE". reminds me of when i went to look for thought industry on those little computer thingys they have at your neighborhood tower records. i was scratching my head cause it wouldn't appear, and then i found it.....under "THOUGH industry."
some people are boneheads.
been getting lucky here. i've been talking to tony massaro of torman maxt (remember them??) for a bit now, on and off, and we discuss little things like the state of prog, what prog is, and so forth...and hey- i got a cd from them today. i haven't heard too much of it yet (cause i have to revise my small ternary form piece and finish my minuet for composition), but the little i heard was interesting.
my vote for ytsejam king of the world. without a doubt, it goes to bafu. anyone who digs the iron shiek, and can hurt as much brains as the next guy just wins.
bafu vai wins.........flawless victory.....fatality.
well, back to my comp work. peace out (gosh, all these people using that line, i should've copyrighted it ;-) ).
check ya later.
david, funky fresh in da house kobayashi
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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 00:48:24 -0500 (EST) From: constabl@postoffice.ptd.net To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Peart gay? Message-ID: <199602280548.AAA04866@ns1.ptd.net>
At 04:14 PM 2/27/96 -0800, you wrote:> > On a different note, whats the bullshit about Sherinian sexuality, who >gives a fuck!, Ive been listening to Rush for years, even though Peart is gay. >and finally I must ask WHEN ARE DREAM THEATER GOING TO COME TO FLORIDA!!!!!, Ive >been waiting for 4 years and I cant seem to catch them........ >
I this is common knowledge forgive me (Peart being gay), is this true??
Marc
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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 23:16:04 -0700 From: Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Yeah right. Message-ID: <199602280616.XAA22832@maple.enet.net>
>Okay, everyone. Its time to elect the KING OF THE YTSEJAM! The two highest >contenders are Bafu and Ben Laussade, but you can write in anyone you want. >Send your vote to me privately with a subject of "vote" and I will announce >the winner on Friday or Saturday (or Sunday). >later-------------Brian
And it's Bafu by a knockout! I wouldn't even bother voting for myself on this one.
>OK, um does it rhyme with Cow fade or plow fed?
Neither. ;-)
>Ben, you're dumb. Probably ate one of my evil black nachos. > No..that's why I feel queasy. Let me reiterate the fact that I know next to nothing about recording, CD Players and such. But, as I recall, there was a thread about someone's CD player seeming "slow".
>Pronunciation of "Laussade": > >Laus + sade > >"laws" + "sharday" > > > > > > (heh) > (Ben, I'm joking; if this -is- the correct pronunciation, shoot me.) >
Well, it's wrong...but I'm still gonna shootcha! :-)
>Ben is French. His surname is pronounced La-sod, or in english, The git. >hehe - it's what's for breakfast.
WTF is a git?
>"See my diary on the newsstand, seems we've lost the truth to quicksand..." > >Think about that line for a little bit. >
Even worse, we're writing his diary FOR him. :-/
>I was (suposedly) dubbing the Kevin Moore Demos for a trade I have >together, and I put the tapes in the wrong tape deck....erased side 1 of >the demos!!! DOOT!! Would anybody be willing to let me send them my >tape with return postage so they can re-record side 1 of the demos? I >would greatly appreciate it. I'm such an idiot!!! Thanks in advance!
Join the club....not only am I the president, but I'm also a client. I just did the same thing....I erased ACoS, WFS and LtL off of TDoE. Doh!
>then.....and IF there ARE any posts on this subject. The Drinking Game and >ongoing debates about Tori's love life are just SO MUCH MORE IMPoTANT(GGG). ^^^^^^^^^ Hey...uh..you spelled "impotent" wrong.
>Edd wrote: > >> Ben is French. His surname is pronounced La-sod, or in english, The git. >> hehe - it's what's for breakfast. > >Ben is foreign, and he has a Portuguese name - Lo Sad. The English >translation is "The Guy Whose Sig Is Not Changed Often Enough". >
I'm not foreign...but, I believe it is Portugese. Used to be Laussado...I think. But yes, that is the correct pronunciation.
>I always thought it was either "Luh-Sawed" or "Luh-Sahhed." How do you >say "Ytse-Ben," anyway?
Well, that's easy.....Nebesty backwards! :-)
>@@@><><><>===<><><>===<><>===<>==<<@@@>>==<>===<><>===<><><>===<><><><@@@ > Gregory Chew -- "In with the ashes, or up with the smoke from the fire?" > grc8@Columbia.edu :):):):):):) -- Kevin Moore, Dream Theater >@@@><><><>===<><><>===<><>===<>==<<@@@>>==<>===<><>===<><><>===<><><><@@@ > >
Hey...do you have a broth----Ah, nevermind.
>On a different note, whats the bullshit about Sherinian sexuality, who >gives a fuck!, Ive been listening to Rush for years, even though Peart is gay. >and finally I must ask WHEN ARE DREAM THEATER GOING TO COME TO FLORIDA!!!!!, Ive >been waiting for 4 years and I cant seem to catch them........ >
Neil Peart is gay? I was not aware of that fact.
>p.s. 10 years later? I'm worried, because at this juncture of time, 10 >years is a hell of a lifetime for a band....we're not talking old >standbys like rolling stones or rush here, we're talking DT, which is shedding >a band member almost every album....maybe my fears stem from the recent >example of echolyn's demise, but I'd actually bet against DT existing in >the year 2006.....and i'm not sure why, either
Well, that's because one of them sounded like a sick parrot and the other one got bored...Now we have a great singer and a keyboardist who can always entertain himself by sorting through his women's underwear collection. :-) :-)
Welp...that's all yolks.
Ben Laussade
" "
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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 01:36:09 EST From: KTYA28B@prodigy.com (MS DEBBIE M VESTAL) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: DT's future Message-ID: <096.02286683.KTYA28B@prodigy.com>
The Digital Man wrote:
>Yeah, but people were saying the same things about REM ten years ago, and >Nirvana/Pearl Jam/etc five years ago. Don't give up hope on that one.
Since when have the likes of REM and Nirvana gotten into 20 minute songs? Their music has always "fit" into programmers schemes...it's just that people lost their minds for awhile. It became popular and it got played:)
AND WHILE I'M AT IT....SOME VENTING OF MY OWN. Hey...will everybody KNOCK IT OFF about the SUPPOSED SEXUALITY of various musicians????? Neil Peart is married. Sherinian is a fine musician and has had enough female groupies to settle the issue of HIS sexuality...so let's drop it! THAT dead horse has been beaten for several days now!!!!
Cat
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~IN GODS WE TRUST......................................... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ALL OTHERS PAY CASH...................... -STEVEN BRUST
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