YTSEJAM digest 1305

From: ytsejam@ax.com
Date: Thu Feb 29 1996 - 17:03:51 EST

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 1305

    Today's Topics:

      1) compilation album
     by STEVE <STEVE@kandu.com>
      2) White Zombie, Tori Amos, and flamers
     by "Devil's Plaything" <papined@pr.erau.edu>
      3) Mainstream topic
     by SEEGED73@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU
      4) Re: DT Mainstream & Son of Misc. Miasma
     by KTYA28B@prodigy.com (MS DEBBIE M VESTAL)
      5) Damn the Machine
     by "Andrew Keith Garinger" <garinger@pilot.msu.edu>
      6) DT/Rush Tour?
     by Sniper <marc_pe@alcor.concordia.ca>
      7) DT on Letterman
     by "matt" <meg147@psu.edu>
      8) BorlangW -- Bruce?
     by YoSammity@aol.com
      9) Re: DT & Metallica
     by YoSammity@aol.com
     10) Mail Item Format Warning
     by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 02/29/96 - 19:18:05" <response@ibmmail.com>
     11) prague/new d.t.
     by Matt Rosin <msr7146@tam2000.tamu.edu>
     12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1304
     by Mason Pokladnik <fmp8157@tam2000.tamu.edu>
     13) YTSEJAM digest 1304
     by "Steven Johnson" <svjohnson@amoco.com>
     14) Bald Anus, See?
     by Elliott Kim <ekim01@fiu.edu>
     15) Derek
     by DreamNDay@aol.com
     16)
     by Timothy Lodge <axe@usa.nai.net>
     17) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1303
     by Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
     18) What's your problem?
     by DreamNDay@aol.com
     19) Lars/John M.
     by DreamNDay@aol.com
     20) Big MST3K & Zappa fan?
     by skooc@ix.netcom.com (Scott Cook)
     21) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1304
     by Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
     22) WDATU Review
     by Paul Holloway <pjhollow@novice.uwaterloo.ca>

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    Date: Thu, 29 Feb 96 12:42:24
    From: STEVE <STEVE@kandu.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: compilation album
    Message-ID: <7E74C62F01810F00@kandu.com>

    hi folks-

    my record label, DREG Records, is planning on releasing a compilation
    CD of unsigned or local Prog HR/HM bands. since there's been some
    talk of this here, i figured i would open it up the the you first,
    and possibly make it entirely bands of the jam ("Yste Bands?!?")

    anyhoo, it will be a professionally done, full length CD with
    appropriate credits, and will retail for around $12.

    if you or your band would be interested, send me email to:
    steve@kandu.com

    i'll post more on this as it starts to take shape.

    -steve
    DREG Records
    http://www.kandu.com/dreg

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    Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 11:02:06 -0700 (MST)
    From: "Devil's Plaything" <papined@pr.erau.edu>
    To: Ytsejam List <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: White Zombie, Tori Amos, and flamers
    Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960229105131.10417B-100000@moon.pr.erau.edu>

    <><><><><><><> "Stop your grinnin' and drop your linen!" <><><><><><><><><><>

    Hey to all the Pheonix jammers, White Zombie's playing at the Compton
    Terrace (sp?) on March 6th. I'll be there, so if any o' you'll be there,
    give me a mail.

    Also, I've seen a lot of stuff about Tori on the jam here. I don't
    really know much about her or her music, but I'm always interested to
    learn. What's it like? I do know two things, though...1) There's an
    article about her in the latest issue of SPIN, more interestingly: My
    sister's band is signed under her (Tori's) label. They (my sister's band
    ==> PET) just spent the past few months in Ireland and England at Tori's
    recording studio doing that recording/mixing stuff. Cool, huh?

    One last thing...regarding the gay issue...try not to use the word
    "flamers" in the same sentence. Even though we know its regarding
    feedback, there's always the issue of tact };]

    <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
    <><><><><><><><><><><><> THE DEVIL'S PLAYTHING ><><><><><><><><><><><><>
    <><><><><><><><> David Papineau - papined@pr.erau.edu <><><><><><><><><>
    <><><><><><><><><><><><><>"You opened fire!"<><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
    <><><><><><><><><><>"And a smile was all I drew"<><><><><><><><><><><><>
    <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>

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    Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 12:11:12 -0600 (CST)
    From: SEEGED73@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Mainstream topic
    Message-ID: <01I1S9HLJ8R80059AF@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU>

    Date sent: 29-FEB-1996 12:01:18

    OK, my good friend Andy Miller brought up quite an interesting topic. I'd
    like to say something...

    If Progressive ever became "mainstream" (can anyone offer a working
    definition?) I could honestly say I probably wouldn't listen to it
    anymore. It would probably get "watered-down" and more "poppy" (or
    "cheesy" as Andy would say.) Take someone like Fates. Most of you
    probably know how different they are now than 10 years ago. It's still
    Fates, but I'd have to say I miss the "Dungeon And Dragons" type lyrics and
    occult referneces from the Arch (hi!) years, not to mention the heavier
    gothic sound. As for DT, I saw major changes as soon as I heard the
    "Awake" album. None of the songs blew me away like they did on IAW. What
    happened? Is there a way progressive bands can make a living with their
    music, but not get discovered by the wrong people? Is there a happy medium
    between struggle and success?

    Think about it...

    ________________________________________________________________________________
    Debbie Seeger seeged73@vaxa.cis.uwosh.edu
    University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh
    Music Major (Recording Technology emphasis)

    Vocabulary Building with Deb:
    CORPORATE PUNK: noun. Green Day (need I say more?!) [Courtesy of Michael
    DeVoe.]
    ________________________________________________________________________________

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    Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 13:32:11 EST
    From: KTYA28B@prodigy.com (MS DEBBIE M VESTAL)
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: DT Mainstream & Son of Misc. Miasma
    Message-ID: <096.02404322.KTYA28B@prodigy.com>

    >The Rolling Stones have had more than one line-up change.
        Yup...you're right. Which illustrates the point I was trying to
    make...bands CAN survive even if they do replace musicians occasionally. I
    guess I should've made that clear. Plus...the Rolling Stones have been
    together since...what....1963-64? IMHO so few replacements in that ammount
    of time is a pretty good track record.

    Gandalf....thanks for the compliment....but I swear on my Spock ears, my
    D&D Miniature collection and my Dragon collection....that I'm still a geek.:)

                                                   Cat

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~IN GODS WE TRUST.........................................
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ALL OTHERS PAY CASH......................
                                                      -STEVEN BRUST

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    Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 13:40:54 -0500 (EST)
    From: "Andrew Keith Garinger" <garinger@pilot.msu.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Damn the Machine
    Message-ID: <199602291840.NAA103055@pilot12.cl.msu.edu>

        I just got ahold of a copy of Damn the Machine's s/t CD. This is some
    really good prog-metal. I knew Chris Poland had some potential from his
    Megadeth days and the solo instrumental CD, but with a band and some vocals,
    he's great! I guess Dave Mustaine with his dominating personality kinda
    repressed Chris. I don't recall if Chris had any writing credits w/ Megadeth,
    but he certainly showed that he can write on this CD! I believe it is out of
    print, but thanks to Alexis Ramos, I picked up a copy from Columbia House, if
    you can believe that! It came in less than a week and at last check, they
    still had copies in stock. It is expensive ($20), but it's worth it. If
    you're interested, mail me. I still have the order # somewhere in my email
    logs.

    Later,
        Andrew

    --
    garinger@pilot.msu.edu
    Zeta Beta Tau-Beta Epsilon Chapter "Ynos"
    ---
    "There's a man who is lonely            There's a girl he's been seeing
     This could change if he'd only         From afar he's been dreaming
     Take a chance and risk stepping        He could have her if he were
        outside himself                        someone else
                           So he silently awaits
                           A major change in fate
                           A change that comes too late" - Enchant "The Thirst"
    "A damn accurate assessment of my love life." - Me
    ---
    DreamTheaterBraindanceALLRushthedroogsThOughtIndustryStabbingWestwardDownbyLaw
    

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    Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 13:46:39 -0500 (EST) From: Sniper <marc_pe@alcor.concordia.ca> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT/Rush Tour? Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.960229134404.11514A-100000@alcor.concordia.ca>

    Hi DT fanz. I just wanted to know your opinions on a possible DT/Rush tour for the fall. Over on the Rush Mailing list, there are mixed reactions. What do you guys think? IMO, this is an excellect idea.

    Later, Marco.

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    Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 14:05:57 -0500 (EST) From: "matt" <meg147@psu.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT on Letterman Message-ID: <50762.meg147@email.psu.edu>

    I just got the CD version of Awake. I had the tape before, but it is missing Scarred. So I had to get the CD. Anyway, I think DT should do scarred in its entirety (sp?) if they get on Letterman. That would take up a lot of the show. They would have to stop in the middle of the song and go to commercial break and then come back and finish it. Just a thought. In reality though I think they should do UAGM if they ever get on Letterman. But, that might be too long also. They could always resort to the video edit of PMU. That would be a good choice I think. Or if they get on just after the release of their new album they could do a song off of it. Anyway, that is just my $.02 on the matter.

    **************************************************************************** DAYBREAK AT THE BOTTOM OF A LAKE, IT'S A HUNDRED DEGREES I CAN'T BREATHE... Dream Theater ****************************************************************************

    PS: Is that better Chris??

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    Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 14:05:00 -0500 From: YoSammity@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: BorlangW -- Bruce? Message-ID: <960229140459_156613909@mail02.mail.aol.com>

    Any word on when Bruce's album will be coming out?

    I haven't heard the release date yet...

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    Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 14:19:19 -0500 From: YoSammity@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: DT & Metallica Message-ID: <960229141917_156623407@emout09.mail.aol.com>

    DT played Metallica's Damage Inc. (I believe) but didn't put it on the ACOS CD because LaBrie didn't sing the track.

    They also played the tune instrumentally as part of a medly at their last show at the Malibu.

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    Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 14:21:39 EST From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 02/29/96 - 19:18:05" <response@ibmmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Mail Item Format Warning Message-ID: <199602291922.LAA02487@mindcrime.ax.com>

    The mail item that you sent at 19:16:24 GMT on 29 Feb 1996 has been delivered.

    However, it has been necessary to convert this item into a format that is acceptable to the recipient, FITIPMOL at IBMMAIL. Information beyond column 79 in the mail item will have been wrapped.

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    Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 13:32:18 -0600 (CST) From: Matt Rosin <msr7146@tam2000.tamu.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: prague/new d.t. Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960229132450.6518A-100000@tam2000.tamu.edu>

    i'm amazed at how many responses i have recieved regarding my prague post. yes, i'm fully aware that this person has so sense of geography. ;) the main point was her ignorance of the genre. that's too bad, that some of the best music is ignored. but hey, just listening to a top-40 radio station will tell you that if it's popular, it's probably not the best music, right? ;)

    speaking of ignorance of good music, i caught some of the grammys last night . . . with the exception of seal getting some awards (like him or not, he's a great song-writer and arranger), the event was largely a farce, as it is every year. believe me, ellen degeneres (or however the hell you spell it) dancing and slapping her thigh is a truly scary sight. yech. (which also sums up my feeling about the grammys in general.)

    btw, does anybody have any idea what the tentative release date (or approximately) for the upcoming d.t. album? thanks. just curious . . .

    <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Matt Rosin * SURREALITY: ambient-experimental PO Box 15315 * IMAGESCAPE: ambient-progressive metal College Station, TX * Matt Rosin: vocals/synths/programming 77841-7315 * http://http.tamu.edu:8000/~msr7146/imagescape msr7146@tam2000.tamu.edu * email: imagescape@tamu.edu <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>

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    Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 13:34:58 -0600 (CST) From: Mason Pokladnik <fmp8157@tam2000.tamu.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1304 Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960229132401.12667I@tam2000.tamu.edu>

    well someone beat me to it but yes Matt you need to inform this girl that prague is in the czech republic. Well since I assume no matter what I write someone somewhere will take offense I will just say whatever I feel like. First being a new DT fan I have to say I am awe struck by john P's technique and attention to detail which brings me to my original reason for making my first post (don't bother drinking it's not that exciting.) All this talk abou the DT tribute album seems to have taken an interesting turn. Everyone is up saying I can play the tamborine or whatever, and neglecting the fact that your trying to pay TRIBUTE to a band who has influenced you. Maybe some of the more serious musicians need to break off and do a technicly well played and produced album. One were people would be able to recognise the songs. and the rest of the people need to go to their garages and have fun. I'm not saying your music is any less a tribute, but I have a feeling it won't be very popular unless for some strange reason people decide to like garage bands. (in which case Matt and I have a whole bunch of tapes for sale!) However you decide to pay tribute feel free to have fun but at least try to make it decent. The guys in DT work very hard to produce clean sounding well played albums and you should not ruin their music by not taking it seriously.

    p.s. if anyone does decide to put a garage tape together I'll add a sax track!

    ------------------------------------ -Mason Pokladnik - -fmp8157@tam2000.tamu.edu - -http://http.tamu.edu:8000/~fmp8157- -http://acs.tamu.edu/~fmp8157 - ------------------------------------

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    Date: 29 Feb 1996 13:33:13 GMT From: "Steven Johnson" <svjohnson@amoco.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: YTSEJAM digest 1304 Message-ID: <199602291946.AA11345@interlock.amoco.com>

    *** Reply to note of 02/29/96 13:03 Concerning the ytsejam brass......add a sax (I actuallylearned clarinet, but w e've got one of those and the fingering is the same as the clarinet's lower register!!). I call dibs on power tenor!Go, 'Trane, go! LATER-

    Steve

    *************************************************************** e v i t c e p s r e p w e n a t e G Steve Johnson, Amoco Media Relations -- svjohnson@amoco.com ***************************************************************

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    Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 14:58:30 -0500 (EST) From: Elliott Kim <ekim01@fiu.edu> To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Bald Anus, See? Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960229143436.1393A-100000@solix>

    Nice subject header - it has nothing to do with what I'm posting about. Come to IRC or ask Ben LSoaD what it means. ;)

    Anyways...

    An old thread with a new twist has surfaced... People come out and wish DT were really big, while the other half of us want them to stay "underground." I'm not complaining about tiring old threads... Some of the pointlessness of them is actually very funny. I hadn't laughed this hard since another Mr. Vai posted last.

    IMHO, DT already has it made. Their situation is an ideal one. They have the mega-success they deserve over in Japan, selling out arenas, being mobbed by fans, and all the trappings of success. That kind of adoration, while financially rewarding, is physically and emotionally taxing. However, they don't have to deal with it on a full-time basis. They split their time between Japan, the US and the rest of the world. In the US, (where they seem to spend a majority of their time) they have a modest degree of success and they can still maintain private lives. Any member of the band could go out in public and probably only run into a few fans (if any), that they'd be more than happy to pause and chat with instead of being mobbed. They get to play smaller, more intimate venues, and have the close interaction with the fans on a level that isn't as demanding as being a multi-platinum act.

    DT has the best of both worlds. They DO have recognition in the States, though they do not have the widespread recognition as the MTV flavor of the month.

    Why bitch and complain that they get no airplay on the radio or MTV? Isn't that why we have CD players and VCRs?

    . . .. Elliott Kim Florida International University .. . ekim01@fiu.edu E-Man@dreamt.org .

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    Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 15:43:16 -0500 From: DreamNDay@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Derek Message-ID: <960229154316_336929210@emout10.mail.aol.com>

    Ok, everyone, the posting about Derek being gay has almost stopped, but now all I see is "Lets stop posting about Derek's sexuality", so lets stop posting about stop posting about Derek's sexuality. BTW, to the person who said

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    Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 16:20:41 -0500 From: Timothy Lodge <axe@usa.nai.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Message-ID: <199602292120.QAA21303@usa.nai.net>

    >I'd love to record a version of "The Silent >Man" and/or "Waiting for Sleep," so take down my name whoever's in charge. >-Mike Bradley

    Not to be a total cynic or anything, but if you're going to put a song on a ytsejam compilation album, don't you think you should get the name of the song right? Its "WAIT FOR SLEEP" not "WAITING FOR SLEEP". Sorry, just a pet peave..kind of like spelling dream Theatre!!!! argh!! :)

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    Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 13:36:42 -0800 From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1303 Message-ID: <199602292136.NAA25345@cats.ucsc.edu>

    >I'm still wondering why the last song on the cd, an instrumental known for >years as "Barfbag," is suddenly called "Showdown." Did DT rename the song, >or did Mike Bahr decide to rename it? And was Mike freestyling some poetry >reminiscent of the "To Live Forever" lyrics in the liner notes? >

    "Showdown" is the working title of one of the songs form the new album. And, those words for TLF are lyrics added for the studio version of TLF from the Silent Man Single.

    Mike: Did you use "Anguished English" for the liner notes or did you get the goofy sayings from another source?

    __ /\ __ __\/__\/__ \_||_/ ~Chris /__||__\ // \ | \\ \|

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    Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 16:45:17 -0500 From: DreamNDay@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: What's your problem? Message-ID: <960229164516_336991695@emout07.mail.aol.com>

    >Hey, Brian, I can't believe I'm wasting my timereplying to your obnoxious >post, Ive gone back and looked at some of your previous posts, and it >confirms my suspicions,you are a troublemaker, and say stupid things >that have no value.

    John, Whats your problem, dude? If you wanted to flame me when I did all that posting about Derek, you shoulda hopped on the bandwagon when everyone else did, BEFORE I HAD APOLOGISED! Why is this post I had obnoxious? If you recal, about 2 or 3 weeks ago when the jam first switched over, the question of whether or not DT were sex symbols was a big topic for a few days. I had nothing to say about it then, but now I did. My post wasn't any more obnoxious than anyone elses posts about this topic.(Which, BTW weren't obnoxious at all!) I don't want to make any Ytse-Enemies after making all of these Ytse-Friends. And me, A TROUBLEMAKER?!?!?!?!?! Buddy, you don't even know me, so don't even say domething like that. All you see is someone who had questions about a band member's personal life that you didn't agree with. later--------------Brian

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    Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 16:45:59 -0500 From: DreamNDay@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Lars/John M. Message-ID: <960229164559_336991730@emout08.mail.aol.com>

    I said that John M wasn't Korean, but a jammer was so kind to e-mail me and say that he thought he was Korean, so will someone fill me in? Please forgive me if I'm wrong. Also, someone on the jam said saying Myung is not Korean as "riddiculous". Why is it riddiculous? I had been misimformed and never really thought about it. A few days ago I was someone who laughed at the Bafu and Ben posts, would think about the "Dancing Turtle" and other misinterpreted lyrics, and get pissed off a the fact that I have to download the jams from AOL. Now I'm someone who everyone hates because I joked around about the sexuality of a certain member of DT. <sniff>. I tried getting my integrity back by holding the elections, but I haven't got to big of a response, and I feel that this is in part because most of you hate me. I hope I have a few people out there that don't want to strangle me. later--------------Brian

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    Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 13:51:34 -0800 From: skooc@ix.netcom.com (Scott Cook) To: ytsejam@ax.com.In.a.previous.jam.someone.mentioned.that.a.Zappa.album.was.spelleax.com.In.a.previous.jam.someone.mentioned.that.a.Zappa.album.was.spelled Subject: Big MST3K & Zappa fan? Message-ID: <199602292151.NAA19242@ix10.ix.netcom.com>

    wrong and that this person knew because he/she was a "big Zappa fan." And then this person pprocedded to spell a FZ lp Wacka Jawacka. Well, I went to the store to check on this and it's "WAKA JAWAKA." Normally I wouldn't bring this up, but it's like saying you're a big Dreem Theatre fan. The moral of this story is - Make sure someone has made a mistake before you correct them or you may be the one who ends up looking foolish.

    Scott Cook

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    Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 13:47:02 -0800 From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1304 Message-ID: <199602292147.NAA27871@cats.ucsc.edu>

    >What if Weird Al spoofed an instrumental? I can hear "Beerotomania" now, >complete with accordion, banjo, sitar, bassoon, mellotron, ukulele, >a (Chapman) Stick (sorry Chris), glockenspiel, and the Ytsejam Big Band >Brass. >

    Yes, but can he play Melancholy Baby on terrier skulls? (extra points to anyone who gets the reference -- I'm not sure if I have it exactly right, tho)

    P.S. Weird Al Rules! :) I've seen him in concert as many times as I've seen DT! (well, it's only one for each...)

    I think we should to Learning To Live using (tree) sticks, rocks, blades of grass, wild howlings into the night, and terrier skulls. Sort of a "Tribal Prog" :) __ /\ __ __\/__\/__ \_||_/ ~Chris /__||__\ // \ | \\ \|

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    Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 16:51:58 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Holloway <pjhollow@novice.uwaterloo.ca> To: YtseJam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: WDATU Review Message-ID: <Pine.3.87.9602291531.B4338-0100000@novice.uwaterloo.ca>

    OK, I got my WDATU #156 about 3 weeks ago, and I think I'm ready to spew my thoughts on it for anyone interested. It's too bad the YtseJam isn't moderated anymore, as alot of people are going to bypass good information as they're skipping past all the useless threads. Here goes:

    OVERALL: Basically a pretty good job all around, although there are a couple of fade outs that could have been done better. Great packaging, and it's nice to have the extra tracks (TLF and Showdown) at the end.

    SONG BY SONG: 1) A Fortune In Lies: Quite clean, a little bit of a crackle, but nothing too imposing. Taken from a show 2 weeks before the 'Live at the Marquee' gig, so as expected, James sounds pretty good. (soundboard) 2) Status Seeker: Taken from 'Dream Out Loud' CD. The version on WDATU actually sounds _worse_ than it's original source! Weird. Some say it runs a little slow, but I didn't realize it right away, so I guess it can't be that bad (maybe a half-tone, but I don't think it's that noticeable). This version is fuzzier than on the 'DoL' disc. (soundboard) 3) YtseJam: Very very clear. This is the focus piece of the CD. Very nice recording, but hardly any audience sound. (soundboard) 4) The Killing Hand: includes the last few moments of Another Hand. Taken from the same source as AFiL. James sounds great (of course :) (soundboard) 5) Light Fuse and Get Away: James has big problems with the lyrics (then again, so do I :), but he sounds decent. The mix is quite muddy, but basically balanced (high gen. tape?) A far cry from the first 4 tracks, but listenable. (audience recording) 6) Mission Impossible/Afterlife: Why was this version used instead of the one from Majestic Harmonies? I realize that one of the objectives of WDATU was to include rare performances, but when an almost identical performance is available on Majestic Harmonies, with _far_ better sound, why bother with where and when it was recorded (go for the quality)? Sound is just ok, not as bad as Light Fuse. 7) TOWHTSTS: From the 'back pain' gig in Toronto, Oct 25/94. I was there, and is probably the only reason why I can stand to listen to this recording. I mean, I love the song, but the sound is the worst on the disc. Very muddy and dull (obviously high gen. tape, or a really bad recording job... maybe someone with a walkman hanging out in the bathroom :) Just as I remember, James sounds great! Should have taken the 'A Kick into a Dream' version instead. (audience recording) 8) Only a Matter of Time/March of the Tyrant (instrumental): Good stuff. About as clear as 'Status Seeker', maybe a bit better (some light fuzz). James sounds decent. If I remember correctly, the keyboard mix fluxuates a bit, but not too badly. This is pretty cool, as I'm sure they didn't do this combination too often. (soundboard) 9) To Live Forever: same source as YtseJam, but a little bit of crackle. Still sounds great though. Crowd noise... hello? (one of the downfalls of a soundboard source) 10) Instrumental stuff: there are some extra instrumental tunes recorded live at the end of the CD, but as their names are in question at the moment (some don't know if it's actually 'Showdown', or if it's 'Moon Bubbles' or whatever), I won't get into detail. They sound quite good though... no Metropolis or Erotomania style riffs here though, more jazz-oriented stuff.

    That's it (whew!)

    . .. . . .. . . . ... ..[pjhollow@novice.uwaterloo.ca] . . .. . . . ... .. . : and here we are again the my perfect life may Paul Holloway yyz : | doors close behind us and deceive me tonight U of Waterloo | | the road goes on and on realize overcast skies Mech. Eng | : jm/fates warning bp/northern pikes Ont. Canada AFiL : . ... . ... . ..... ... . . ... ..... . ... . ..... ... . . ... . ... . ... .

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