YTSEJAM Digest 1308
Today's Topics:
1) Re: DT on Letterman
by rquezada@shell.monmouth.com
2) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 03/01/96 - 04:23:45" <response@ibmmail.com>
3) Re:Fact or Fiction
by Mark Smeets <msmeets@ibm.net>
4) Bald Anus, See? pt. II
by "Andrew Keith Garinger" <garinger@pilot.msu.edu>
5) Move Fastah!!
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
6) Song For The Letterman Show
by Michael Pomerleau <72064.614@compuserve.com>
7) owwww to my brain
by WildKoba@aol.com
8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1304 (fwd)
by Scott Daugherty <SRDAUGZ2@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU>
9) YTSE BIG BAND!!!
by kretschmer@bdt.com (Jon Kretschmer)
10) Gobbledigook.
by Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
11) Awake not Blow Away?
by Dave <buster@ee.net>
12) Poster, Fan Club
by Leandro Gularte <102131.3170@compuserve.com>
13) I doubt it
by rtgood@students.wisc.edu (ryan good)
14) plenty o things to say
by WildKoba@aol.com
15) Ivanhoe, IRC
by Brian Wherry <bwherry@acs.bu.edu>
16) Subcon & Acoustic Dreams; Tori Amos
by John Jens <jjens@portal.gmu.edu>
17) unsigned bands tape
by Matt Rosin <msr7146@tam2000.tamu.edu>
18) Skolnick
by fitipmol@ibmmail.com
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Date: Fri, 01 Mar 1996 04:19:40 GMT
From: rquezada@shell.monmouth.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: DT on Letterman
Message-ID: <3136798b.474902@monmouth.com>
On Thu, 29 Feb 1996 11:19:26 -0800, you wrote:
>break and then come back and finish it. Just a thought. In reality though I
>think they should do UAGM if they ever get on Letterman. But, that might be
>too long also. They could always resort to the video edit of PMU. That would
>be a good choice I think. Or if they get on just after the release of their
>new album they could do a song off of it.
> Anyway, that is just my $.02 on the matter.
>
Not the video edit of PMU. People will think that's the only song of
their's that's any good.
I think they should have them on from Monday through Friday of one
week. They could divide ACOS into 5 different parts and play one each
night. That should make each visit short enough to get on each night.
:)
rq
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Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 23:24:35 EST
From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 03/01/96 - 04:23:45" <response@ibmmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mail Item Format Warning
Message-ID: <199603010424.UAA10268@mindcrime.ax.com>
The mail item that you sent at 04:24:26 GMT on 01 Mar 1996 has been delivered.
However, it has been necessary to convert this item into a
format that is acceptable to the recipient, FITIPMOL at IBMMAIL.
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Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 20:45:37 PST
From: Mark Smeets <msmeets@ibm.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re:Fact or Fiction
Message-ID: <199603010450.EAA17590@pop01.ny.us.ibm.net>
** Reply to note from ytsejam@ax.com 02/29/96 8:13pm -0800
Skolnic in DT....I don't think so. For starters, when my guitarist went
to NAMM he had a chat with skolnic and Mr.S the man, said that he is
playing jazz now and has done enough of metal and those kinds of
musical styles.
He also said he had quite the conversation with Mr.Petrucci which he
has yet to tell me details of.
Mark
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\|
"All men play at 10" manowar
"But our amps go up to 11" Spinal Tap
email me at msmeets@ibm.net or msmeets@smartt.com
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Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 23:56:01 -5300 (EST)
From: "Andrew Keith Garinger" <garinger@pilot.msu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Bald Anus, See? pt. II
Message-ID: <199603010456.XAA89666@pilot14.cl.msu.edu>
Hmmm...Bald Anus, See?...Ben Laussade...see?:) I think anagram generators
are pretty cool.
Later,
Andrew
-- garinger@pilot.msu.edu Zeta Beta Tau-Beta Epsilon Chapter "Ynos" --- "There's a man who is lonely There's a girl he's been seeing This could change if he'd only From afar he's been dreaming Take a chance and risk stepping He could have her if he were outside himself someone else So he silently awaits A major change in fate A change that comes too late" - Enchant "The Thirst" "A damn accurate assessment of my love life." - Me --- DreamTheaterBraindanceALLRushthedroogsThOughtIndustryStabbingWestwardDownbyLaw------------------------------
Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 20:58:50 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu> To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Move Fastah!! Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91j.960229205445.113062B-100000@homer31.u.washington.edu>
(Remo Williams)
> From: Jeffrey David Olson <sinista@netexpress.net> > Subject: YTSE-MAIL FORMAT WARNING > > The mail item that you sent at 06:00:00 GMT on 25 Dec 1996 has been > delivered. > > > BafuVai, Im supprised you didnt come up with somthing similar to this.
Sinista, I'm surprised I read your post juuuust before sending a similar message. This occurence is too psychic and too frightening. I will now promptly withhold my post and fervently pray that you are not stalking me.
Thank you and good evening.
Bafu Vai
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Date: 29 Feb 96 23:56:47 EST From: Michael Pomerleau <72064.614@compuserve.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Song For The Letterman Show Message-ID: <960301045647_72064.614_GHB66-1@CompuServe.COM>
If DT were to do a song for the letterman show, my choice would be To Live Forever. It is simple enough for the crowd to appreciate, and James sounds AWESOME during it.
If we are looking for something more impressive how about playing "TO Live Forever," up until the solos begin, followed by either
a) The solos from "Take The Time"
b) The Freight Train/Keyboard Run from ACOS (followed by...) The BASS Tapping part from Metropolis (followed by...) The Guitar Solo from EROTOMANIA (The BACH followed by the shred thing) Then let Mike P. (No Not ME) do a little drum thingy
That would definitely blow them away. Remember during the Dave Letterman 10th anniversary special Steve Vai played a solo!!!
Is it just me, or does someone else think that DT should put TLF on an album (not a B-side) and release it as a single. I LOVE THAT SONG. Also, that song would be a pretty good theme song for HIGHLANDER, The Series, or the Highlander IV movie (rumor I heard on the Highlander mailing list)
Anyways, enough ramblings from me
Michael Pomerleau 72064.614@Compuserve.com
"GOODBYE" - Mike Portnoy, Dream Theater, "A Change Of Seasons"
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 00:06:16 -0500 From: WildKoba@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: owwww to my brain Message-ID: <960301000616_337472972@mail04.mail.aol.com>
i just had a weird night......
you see, chick corea played here at my school tonight. and i had these great 7th row seats, and i was all looking foward to having a great time.
but of course, because i'm an asshole and people actually need me for theater shows, i got bogged down at a rehearsal for "gorey stories." so, damn, there goes my ticket, for this stupid rehearsal.
9:15, the director tells me i'm done for the day. so i figure, maybe i can try to sneak in at the show and actually catch it.
i go down 3 flights of stairs to the concert theater, and all my friends are crowding around this guy, and my friend jay's all glad i'm there, and then he's like, "oh by the way, that's chick corea."
i shit in my pants.
i told him about my night, and he was like, "well, glad you made it. hope you enjoy it."
so my friend led me to his seat (9th row) and i was treated to the 2nd half of a great show, which featured chick doing an insane piece with mallets and a clave on a piano (yes, he struck the strings with these little toys). his band (sax, bass, drums) were tighter than a baby's ass. i hung around afterwards for about half an hour to try to get an autograph, but that was taking too long.
i know, i know, no dtc. yea, whatever. i thought someone would dig this, if not dt themselves.
oh well, that's all. peace out.
a very happy chicken david "i'm using the chicken to measure it" kobayashi
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Date: Fri, 01 Mar 96 00:03:26 EST From: Scott Daugherty <SRDAUGZ2@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU> To: da jam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1304 (fwd) Message-ID: <960301.001644.EST.SRDAUGZ2@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU>
>>takes to play classical music? I play piano - and there is no way they >>could. The technical, let alone musical concepts are of a completely >>different nature than the stuff Dream Theater puts out.
>Yeah? Last I heard, they ARE classically trained....and at least they >CREATE music. But maybe there IS a difference between a technician and an > artist........IMHO.
Whoa! You're treadin' on shallow ground there. I'm also a classical musician and it is my goal to mate technical ability with expressivity. I hope I just misunderstood what you meant.
About the guys playing Liszt, I agree with the guy above, i.e., that they could not play it. I remember reading an article some time ago where Kevin Moore said that he left Fredonia because he "didn't have what it took to do what those guys do," or something like that. But it doesn't matter, they're rock musicians and have never claimed to be classical musicians.
Also, I wouldn't actually call two semesters of college music study "classically trained," it's damn hard, believe me!
See Ya,
Scott Daugherty
-Go hang a salami, I'm a lasagna hog.
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Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 21:26:59 +0800 From: kretschmer@bdt.com (Jon Kretschmer) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: YTSE BIG BAND!!! Message-ID: <v01510101ad5b59718918@[206.14.103.54]>
Allright folks...
Email me if you have an instrument outside of the DT lineup, and Ill try to write something. I play trumpet, and I figure Ill go for one of the easier songs...You guys have any ideas of a song that might sound good Big Band style?
I play trumpet, but I dont have any kind of sound system, just knowledge of theory and music. So I could try a little something, I just need to know what to write for.
Its a cool idea, glad I thought of it : )
Later folks : )
Jon
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Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 22:27:22 -0700 From: Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Gobbledigook. Message-ID: <199603010527.WAA06664@maple.enet.net>
>What??? Yea right they could play them. Do you have any idea what it takes >to play classical music? I play piano - and there is no way they could. >The technical, let alone musical concepts are of a completely different >nature than the stuff Dream Theater puts out. >
You ig'nant! Just because they DON'T play it doesn't mean they CAN'T play it.
Bald Anus, See? Anagram Generators suck.
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 00:40:20 -0500 From: Dave <buster@ee.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Awake not Blow Away? Message-ID: <199603010540.AAA04355@mail.ee.net>
>gothic sound. As for DT, I saw major changes as soon as I heard the >"Awake" album. None of the songs blew me away like they did on IAW. What >happened?
>Debbie Seeger seeged73@vaxa.cis.uwosh.edu >University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh >Music Major (Recording Technology emphasis)
Dear Deb: EEEK! Please don't take this in any dirogatory way whatsoever, but what are you smoking?:) I guess if awake doesn't move you, it just doesn't, but I have a hard time believing that I&W blew you away and not Awake. To me, although the Cd's are a bit different from each other (IW being as close to mainstream as DT will ever get), the stuff on Awake is still Killer!! It's just in a different frame of mind, and it takes some time to get "involved" in some of the songs. For instance "Voices" can rock me just as "under a Glass Moon" can, but in a different sort of way. To me it depepnds on where you'll allow the music to take you when you listen. I think the music on Awake takes a bit more "focus" to get off on in the same way as I&W's stuff does. The Awake stuff takes a bit longer to get to the punch, therefore requiring an undistracted listener to get the real vibe of it all. The concepts put forth in the lyrics on Awake are intense...it deals a lot with the subconcious self, and portrays a message much like a Dream would to yourself. (in Dreams things hardly ever mean what they look lke they should mean) I guess all I'm trying to say is that I LOVE both albums just the same, and I'm having a hard time believing your dilemma:) Did you try listening to Awake on a long drive with no one else in the car, and a really good stereo system? heheheh
Peace, Dave buster@ee.net
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Date: 29 Feb 96 21:48:33 EST From: Leandro Gularte <102131.3170@compuserve.com> To: "'!ftQB6" <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Poster, Fan Club Message-ID: <960301024832_102131.3170_EHS96-1@CompuServe.COM>
Hi everybody! Well, i am writtig couse i want to know if exist any Dream Theater Fan Club here in Brazil. And I want to know how to get a Dream Theater POSTER???? I will wate for reply. Thank you...
Leandro Pinho Gularte, 102131,3170@compuserve.com
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Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 23:56:17 -0600 From: rtgood@students.wisc.edu (ryan good) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: I doubt it Message-ID: <199603010556.XAA123067@audumla.students.wisc.edu>
Hey....I think there would be no way that Alex Skonlick would ever join Dream Theater. I KNOW for a fact that he is a talented guitarist, but unless Dream Theater NEEDS another guitarist for touring and the like, there's no way they'd hire another guitarist. Alex is good, without a doubt. Oh, yea, by the way. The white streak in his hair is a birthmark, not a dye job. Adios.
By the way....drink one for me!!! ____________________________________
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name - Ryan T. Good e-mail - rtgood@students.wisc.edu phone - 1-(608)-264-2268 what - Madison Student Radio who - Music Staff (Music Stapher) which kind - Progressive Rock/Heavy Metal why - why not?
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 01:12:10 -0500 From: WildKoba@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: plenty o things to say Message-ID: <960301011209_234909644@emout06.mail.aol.com>
yo! still basking in the chick corea glory.
and i got 4658347 jams waiting, so i wanted to respond to some issues that have been thrown around.
on top of keyboards, 7 string, clarinet (which i also play, sort of), i'd be more than glad to throw in a bamboo sax or a bandola. i can hear wfs on the bandola pretty nicely. now i have to get the other 16 strings for it.
speaking of keyboards, the issue of whether or not km and ds can handle the bigboy's shit like liszt or the crackeheaded chopin.
although i think that they are both amazing (particularly km), i don't think i can see them hitting the chopin bong. of course, i can be all wrong, but with km, i think the keyboards are more a channel for his songwriting, and what he plays is what you get from him. now whether kev's stuff is virtuosic is another debate, and i think for what he does, there ain't a lot of guys better nowadays.
derek is a tough nut to crack. i gather that he may have not had an extensive classical training. i think he's very much into the jazz and blues end of the piano, and frankly i'd be scared to see him smokin the liszt bong. kinda like neil peart trying to play buddy rich stuff. of course, peart is amazing (a virtuoso at what he does), but he can't really jazz that well.
jp a virtuoso? he's up there. i hope he really does something funky on the 7 string, because that's an open field, and anyone can do something to make a difference. i hope he does it.
man, derek had a rough ass week on the jam- 1st, people are debating his sexual orientation (?!?!) and now we're debating his musical ability. give the boy a break.
scott daugherty: wow.... (c. david kobayashi productions)??? jeez! that's insane in the brain. check this out, g. i did a listening analysis of barber's hermitage songs. what great shit.
re: dt in 10 years well, i'm glad that SOMEONE agrees with me that they won't be around by then. personally, it might happen even sooner.
new fw cd, one long tune ughhh!!! the only other cd i have that does that is "lovesexy" by prince, and god that is so freakin annoying.
prog and the big cash payoff yo andrew, wassup? long time, no speak. umm...my thoughts about prog going platinum, so to speak...
ummm...............uh-huh, uh-huh.......ummmmmm..................
if it happens, it does. if not, maybe for the better, maybe for the worst. i don't think it'll affect me personally as a listener. prog is too much in my blood now, so it won't be like polyester in the 70s or the iron shiek in the 80s.
i love that little "prague" story. someone once thought i said "frog rock," but i won't get into that.
ben lsd???!?!?!?!
mike portnoy gay? that was hilarious with the "ripe monk toy." i just always thought of him as "porntoy."
so there, done. peace out, and don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.
david the funky koba
speaking of funk- np- parliament- "mothership connection"
ps- i just saw what i submitted to the web pages (kev's keyboard interview). thanks for the crediting. that's way cool.
anyone interested in getting a kevin moore reviewed copy of wfs? email me personally. and to the ones that have it already, how is it????
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 01:47:06 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Wherry <bwherry@acs.bu.edu> To: DT List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Ivanhoe, IRC Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9603010119.B48041-0100000@acs4.bu.edu>
Hey, guys (and gals)! I was at Tower earlier and I saw the Ivanhoe "Symbols of Time" CD there, but in the underground section. So, if you've been looking for this CD and you have a Tower nearby, check the underground section -- you may be pleasantly surprised!! IRC is really cool! I was on the other night and really enjoyed it. I was laughing out loud half the time!! That Bafu Vai..... :) Too bad my roommate picked up the phone and prematurely ended my session.... oh well! But if you haven't gotten on the #ytsejam channel thingy, definitely do!! And if you don't know how to (like I didn't), just email Skadz or Digital Man and I'm sure they'd be happy to sort you out. Later!
Spring Break, here I come! (after the DiffEQ exam, that is -- yikes!)
Brian
--==Brian Wherry==-- --==bwherry@acs.bu.edu==-- "Do. Or do not. There is no try." -Yoda
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 01:57:00 -0500 (EST) From: John Jens <jjens@portal.gmu.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Subcon & Acoustic Dreams; Tori Amos Message-ID: <199603010657.BAA29054@reactor.site.gmu.edu>
howdy folx, i noticed something a couple hours ago while writing my research paper proposal: i skip through most of Subcon, only listening to a few songs but when AD spins into place, i listen to the entire disc. i think AD was better put together; not to knock Subcon, it roolz. i'll let you all know if the pattern of quality continues when i get my WDATU (i'm sure it will ) :]
to the person who said *after one listen* that Tori Amos was "pathetic": if i judged everything on a single listen, i wouldn't be into *any* prog bands. to judge on a single listen screams ignorance. and w/ Tori in particular, i've found that males often "just don't get it" and pass her off as "another female singer". the 'Jam is the largest collection of males that i know who like her (besides Really Deep Thoughts, of which i'm not subscribed).
Tori is someone very special. i think a former member of DT and several 'Jammers would agree with me.
-john
j o h n j j e n s @ g m u . e d u e n s h t t p : / / w w w . s i t e . g m u . e d u / ~ j j e n s /
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 01:07:03 -0600 (CST) From: Matt Rosin <msr7146@tam2000.tamu.edu> To: ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: unsigned bands tape Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960301010436.19644B-100000@tam2000.tamu.edu>
i was wondering about this unsigned bands tape idea that's been circulating. would this just be unsigned prog bands we know of or music from unsigned musicians on the list. i think it would be cool to hear what all the other serious musicians on the list write ands perform. we could all help each other get exposure. i know i can speak for all of us when i say that we can use the exposure. what do you think?
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Date: Fri, 01 Mar 1996 02:23:44 EST From: fitipmol@ibmmail.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Skolnick Message-ID: <199603010724.XAA12480@mindcrime.ax.com>
--- Saapunut 03.MAPE 90-4694432 01-03-96 09.21 -> IBMMAIL.INTERNET IBM IMX Hi. Alex Skolnick joining DT....no good. I've never liked Testament but he did a good job replacing Criss Oliva (RIP) in Savatage. He is a very good axeman, really, but very good isn't enough for DT. I think we all can agree on that. Some of the jokes about RESPONSE (ouch!) at you-know-what are quite funny, but let's give it a rest. AFAIK Skadz is doing everything he can to get rid of the MIFW:s. Mape *************************************************************** * A bus stops at the bus station, * * A train stops at the train station, * * There's a workstation on my desk... * ***************************************************************
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