YTSEJAM digest 1213

From: ytsejam@arastar.com
Date: Tue Jan 02 1996 - 12:46:21 EST

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    Today's Topics:

      1) Dec.27 NL Show
     by "Meghan A. Middleton" <mamid@conncoll.edu>
      2) Medley Tune
     by James Utz 02-Jan-1996 0912 <utz@pcbuoa.ENET.dec.com>
      3) Birch Hill comments......
     by An Angel's Kiss... <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
      4) A YtseMisprint?
     by The Digital Man <cmerlo@moose.uvm.edu>
      5) Dream Theater -- Home for the Holidays **spoilers**
     by Corporate Community Relations <buckley@powdml.ENET.dec.com>
      6) Unsigned and Indie Label Prog Bands WWW PAGE
     by Michael Backof <mbacko1@gl.umbc.edu>
      7) Birchhill --Oh Where do I start-- (YTSEJAM POST) (fwd)
     by John Nguyen <nuprin@wichita.fn.net>
      8) Learning to Drum
     by andy_seyler@smtplink.penril.com
      9) The Christmas Shows
     by brax@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Bracken MacLeod)
     10) SFK poll results!!!
     by John Hough <srvrip@qualcomm.com>
     11) RE: YTSEJAM digest 1212
     by P.McLoughlin@bra0108.wins.icl.co.uk
     12) the 2 El N Gee shows (LONG!) **spoilers**
     by "Chad L. Cook" <ccook@bbn.com>
     13) scary music
     by SEEGED73@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU
     14) uh, like words and stuff
     by mjnewb@MO.NET (Monty Newberry)
     15) Argh!
     by laussade@enet.net (Ktulu)
     16) Perfect Strangers
     by augie@unix.asb.com (Heath)
     17) Censorship Test
     by "mmetzger" <mmetzger@bostech.com>

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    Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 09:22:46 -0500 (EST)
    From: "Meghan A. Middleton" <mamid@conncoll.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Dec.27 NL Show
    Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9601020940.A2944-0100000@dsys.cc.conncoll.edu>

    I just thought I'd respond to some of the people griping about the El 'N'
    Gee. Yes, it did suck that the doors opened late and therefore the
    concert was shorter than it should have been. The reason I heard was
    that they were having technical difficulties during sound check. Rather
    than waiting out in the cold, I simply went one street over to another
    bar and had a drink.

    As for them being booted off the stage at 1am, it was NOT the club
    owners. I have met Scott McGruder, the owner, and he is quite
    cool. It was the police that did it. Did you happen to notice them
    SWARMING around both inside and out as we left?? Connecticut has some
    pretty lame laws, one of them being that bars must close at 1am on
    weeknights! So when the cops come and say it's 1am, everyone gets booted.

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    Date: Tue, 2 Jan 96 09:18:37 EST
    From: James Utz 02-Jan-1996 0912 <utz@pcbuoa.ENET.dec.com>
    To: mail11:;@us4rmc.pko.dec.com@us4rmc.pko.dec.com@digital.com; (@ytsejam)
    Subject: Medley Tune
    Message-ID: <9601021418.AA27911@us4rmc.pko.dec.com>

    I saw someone post a few jams ago about the medley
    that DT played at Birch Hill. The second song,
    that they could not identify, was "Killers" from
    Iron Maiden. I hadn't ever heard them play a
    Maiden song before!

    James

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    Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 09:43:52 -0500 (EST)
    From: An Angel's Kiss... <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Birch Hill comments......
    Message-ID: <m0tX7xa-000061C@crash.cts.com>

            Just a coupla points to make about the Birch Hill show.

            1.) WAY too crowded, but really no moshing, except for 2 or 3
                    drunk people throughout the night - quite impressive.

            2.) Apologies to everyone who was kicked out of the Fantazia -
                    if I had taken Heather's advice, it wouldn't have
                    happened, but I had no idea the manager was to be a prick.
                    Their diner will be bombed shortly :)

            3.) WHOEVER THE BLOND WOMAN WHO ALMOST REAR-ENDED ME BEHIND THE
                    FANTAZIA DINER WAS, AND WHO GOT STUCK AND HAD TO BE PUSHED
                    OUT, E-MAIL ME, I THINK I'M IN LOVE! :)

                            sorry, had to throw that in there....

            4.) The show was phenomenal - the best of the 6 or 7 that I
                    have been to. nothing else I can say, still speechless.

            5.) Kudos to Rudess and Morgenstein, who were both excellent....

            6.) Thanks to my drunk friend John, who made me wait for him in
                    a side room while he got a girl's #. While I waited in the
                    room, I see Derek and a shitload of 'Jammers with
                    aftershow passes around. I was backstage without any
                    passes, money, or anything (except my ACoS liners)

            7.) HELLO to everyone that I had met at the show and beforehand :

                    Trey, Fred, M. Bahr, Bafu, Paul, Buck (Mr. Serious) :P, Skadz,
                    Digital, Brian Cox, Jay Peele, Jason Hartman , Elliot Kim,
                    Hairball, and everyone else..
                     Damn there were so many of you!!!!!!
                    Everyone was very cool........felt good to be a 'Jammer.....

                                            later,

                                            Al Balkiewicz
                                            vocals, Half Naked

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    Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 09:56:12 -0500 (EST)
    From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@moose.uvm.edu>
    To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
    Subject: A YtseMisprint?
    Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.960102095421.71322A-100000@moose.uvm.edu>

    Has anyone ever noticed the misspelling on WDADU? If you don't know what
    I mean, check the songwriting credits on "A Fortune in Lies." I can't
    believe that JP let that one slip past!

    -Chris

     -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
     Hey, Ken! Now there's less stuff to trim! Merry Christmas! -Digital Man
     cmerlo@moose.uvm.edu http://www.uvm.edu/~cmerlo
     -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

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    Date: Tue, 2 Jan 96 09:52:59 EST
    From: Corporate Community Relations <buckley@powdml.ENET.dec.com>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Dream Theater -- Home for the Holidays **spoilers**
    Message-ID: <9601021446.AA19874@us2rmc.zko.dec.com>

    Well, the pilgrimage is over -- I successfully attended all four Dream Theater
    holiday shows. Basically took a week and drove from Boston -> CT -> NY -> NJ
    -> CT -> Boston.
        
    Great shows with very diversified set lists (which was a surprise, as they
    usually play the same sets, ala the Japan shows!). All four shows SOLD OUT.
    Every club was packed to the hilt, and even oversold in terms of tickets.

    All in all, a killer set of shows. All four shows were bootlegged, so live
    tapes should be circulating soon.

    I'm very sorry that the only snag in my plans were that I missed the YtseCon
    II event!! 8^( I *really* wanted to meet some of y'all (Mike Bahr, Bafu,
    etc.). I am glad I ran into some of you in NJ -- Jay Peele (great tape!),
    Al Balkewicz, Brian Wherry, John Mastin, etc. Saw the Chew's from afar at
    the Malibu, and Mike Bahr from afar at Birch Hill -- hope to meet you more
    formally in the future.

    For those on the Jam who keep track of set lists and what not, comprised
    below are the exact sets which were played over the four nights :
        
    EL N GEE -- SHOW #1
    -------------------
        Under a Glass Moon
        The Mirror
        Lie
        Lifting Shadows off a Dream
        Cover Medley:
                The Rover (Led Zeppelin)
                Killers (Iron Maiden)
                Damage, Inc. (Metallica)
                In The Flesh? (Pink Floyd)
                Heart of the Sunrise (Yes)
        A Change of Seasons
        Surrounded
        A Mind Beside Itself
                Voices
                The Silent Man
        Pull Me Under
        
        Encore:
        ------
        None (Police pulled the plug at 1am!)
        
        
    THE MALIBU -- SHOW #2
    ---------------------
        The Mirror
        Lie
        Take The Time
        Lifting Shadows off a Dream
        Scarred
        A Change of Seasons
        Another Day
        Cover Medley:
                The Rover (Led Zeppelin)
                Killers (Iron Maiden)
                Damage, Inc. (Metallica)
                In The Flesh? (Pink Floyd)
                Heart of the Sunrise (Yes)
        A Mind Beside Itself
                Voices
                The Silent Man
        Pull Me Under
        
        Encore:
        ------
        Wait for Sleep
        Perfect Strangers (Deep Purple)
        
        
    BIRCH HILL -- SHOW #3
    ---------------------
        The Mirror (Intro Only!)
        Take The Time
        Lie
        Lifting Shadows off a Dream
        Cover Medley:
                The Rover (Led Zeppelin)
                Killers (Iron Maiden)
                Damage, Inc. (Metallica)
                In The Flesh? (Pink Floyd)
                Heart of the Sunrise (Yes)
        Voices
        A Change of Seasons
        Another Day
        Scarred
        The Silent Man
        Pull Me Under
        
        Encore:
        ------
        Bad (U2)
        Learning To Live
        
        
    EL N GEE -- SHOW #2
    -------------------
        6:00
        Under a Glass Moon
        Caught In a Web
        Lie
        Lifting Shadows off a Dream
        Scarred
        Surrounded
        A Mind Beside Itself
                Erotomania
                Voices
                The Silent Man
        Pull Me Under
        
        Encore:
        ------
        Perfect Strangers (Deep Purple)
        
    Cheers,
    Buck

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    Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:20:26 -0500 (EST)
    From: Michael Backof <mbacko1@gl.umbc.edu>
    To: Gibraltar <gib@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu>
    Cc: Ytsejam Digest <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
    Subject: Unsigned and Indie Label Prog Bands WWW PAGE
    Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.960102110710.8414B-100000@umbc9.umbc.edu>

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    Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 10:13:38 -0600 (CST)
    From: John Nguyen <nuprin@wichita.fn.net>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Birchhill --Oh Where do I start-- (YTSEJAM POST) (fwd)
    Message-ID: <Pine.BSD/.3.91.960102101324.10804A-100000@wichita.fn.net>

    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    > Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 20:11:08 -0500 (EST)
    > From: Dietrick <ytsejam@UDel.Edu>
    > To: "John T. Nguyen" <nuprin@fn.net>
    > Subject: Birchhill --Oh Where do I start-- (YTSEJAM POST)

    To those who met me at the show on Friday, you will notice something.
    This is a forward. A I had mentioned before all my posts are forwarded
    because my address cannot appear with the 'Jam's address in the same
    header. Can you belive that shit, you try to pick a cool fucking address
    (can't get much cooler than YTSEJAM) and this shit happens. Well just
    looks like I am going to have to work harder.

    People I met (all cool) included-- Mike Bahr, Hairball, then two guys you
    know who you are who I can't remember there names. I suck with names too
    because this people where cool and I can't remember there names.

    What seems fun to me is that everybody is on _MY_ Mercy Fuck bandwagon.
    I just remember post after post condemming mine praising that lyric. But
    hey it belongs in the song and James know's it.

    Puppies on Acid-TTT was awesome, Scarred minus one lyrical flaw (can you
    guess it?) was amazing, Bad was cool, fuck the whole show was cool. I
    just needed Metropolis and I would have been set.

    Well hey looks like Because I met all you its time to post a shit load.
    HAve a happy drunk New YEAR.

    Andrew Miller
    ytsejam@UDel.Edu
    --no sig., what's the point with the moderation--

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    Date: Tue, 02 Jan 96 10:27:09 EST
    From: andy_seyler@smtplink.penril.com
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Learning to Drum
    Message-ID: <9600028206.AA820615289@smtplink.penril.com>

         This message is primarily for Marc Respass but applies to
         anyone that wants to begin playing drums.

         Marc, patience will be one of the primary building blocks while
         you pursue drumming. When you first sat down with your bass; I'm
         sure you were not able to copy the bass riffs of Billy Sheehan or
         another "Bass god". Try not to get frustrated when beginning to
         play the drums; you are not going to duplicate Mike Portnoy. I have
         been playing drums for 15 years and I have seen MANY self-proclaimed
         "drummers" who could not think about playing a DT or Rush cover.

         We can take this conversation OFF-LINE to list a detailed beginner's
         drum kit. Feel free to E-mail me directly.

         Andy_Seyler@smtplink.penril.com

         Keep on drummin'!

         Andy "Sy" Seyler

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    Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:15:19 -0700 (MST)
    From: brax@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Bracken MacLeod)
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: The Christmas Shows
    Message-ID: <9601021815.AA117210@lamar.ColoState.EDU>

    Hey all,
            (out of lurker mode) I know that this will probably be one of a
    long list of similar requests, but I can't help it since I read that DT
    played Scarred, does anyone have any of these shows bootlegged? I NEED a
    copy. Seriously. Mike Bahr. Have your fingers alighted upon anything
    of interest related to these shows?
            I hope everyone had an excellent holiday season.

    Slainte mhath,
    Bracken

    "...Without music, life would be an error."
    Nietzsche -Twilight of the Idols-

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    Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 10:24:08 -0800
    From: John Hough <srvrip@qualcomm.com>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: SFK poll results!!!
    Message-ID: <199601021824.KAA02381@tyler.qualcomm.com>

    This is pretty cool.

    This came off the SFK Hard Rock mailing list.
    It is their 1995 Best of poll. Check it out.

    It was responded to by about 650 people!!
    Here it is!!!

    >No real suprises...three bands pretty much dominated the whole thing.>> One
    >gets bigger with every album<<, one just keeps rolling year after year and one
    >is a band that was left for dead back in the 80's only to revive their career
    >in 1995.
    >
    >So enjoy...they're ribbed, for "her" pleasure.
    >
    >Best albums:
    >[1] DREAM THEATER - A Change Of Seasons

    YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    >[2] BON JOVI - These Days
    >[3] VAN HALEN - Balance
    >[4] DOKKEN - Dysfunctional
    >[5] SAVATAGE - Dead Winter Dead
    >[6] SKID ROW - SubHuman Race
    >[7] FAITH NO MORE - King For A Day, Fool For A Lifetime
    >[8] HOOTIE & THE BLOWFISH - Cracked Rear View
    >[9] QUEENSRYCHE - Promised Land
    >[10] SHAW/BLADES - Shaw/Blades
    >
    >Best live act:
    >[1] Dokken
    >[2] Queensryche
    >[3] Van Halen
    >[4] Bon Jovi
    >[5] Dream Theater
    >
    HuH?????? Well 5th is better than nothing at all. Considering also
    their tour ended in the states before the year started!

    Thought some of you would like to see how DT faired in this poll.

    Later

    John Hough - srvrip@qualcomm.com
     "Suddenly in his head he heard David Lee Roth bawling:
     'Oh Iyyyyy...ain't got nobody'...and this time he *did*
     laugh. He couldn't help it." -Stephen King, The Drawing Of The Three

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    Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 18:22:34 +0000
    From: P.McLoughlin@bra0108.wins.icl.co.uk
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 1212
    Message-ID: <"4298*/I=P/S=McLoughlin/OU=bra0108/O=icl/PRMD=icl/ADMD=gold 400/C=GB/"@MHS>

    > I thought DT never played "Another Day" live, it's this just
    > an exeption?

    They played it at The Marquee. It is on the Japanese version of
    LATM. It has been great reading everyone's DT concert reviews,
    glad James was appreciated as he should be.
            Patricia (Excuse Sunday's mistake)

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    Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 10:16:15 -0500 (EST)
    From: "Chad L. Cook" <ccook@bbn.com>
    To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
    Subject: the 2 El N Gee shows (LONG!) **spoilers**
    Message-ID: <Pine.3.07.9601020954.B6211-c100000@achilles.bbn.com>

    Hi All, just got back to work, and wanted to write my bit about the 2 CT
    shows:

    Dec. 27th: We originally got there at 5:50, and they were still unloading
    the truck...So we then went to get some food (was it me, or is there
    NOTHING in new london?)... got back to the El N Gee at about 6:50, where
    we began our frigid wait until 10 or so when they finally opened the doors!
    The owner of the place and the tour manager came out yelling at each
    other a few times, from what I could gather (being near the front) the
    owner and the tour manager were fighting about the length of time for the
    soundcheck or something along those lines... I know at one point I heard
    from the tour manager "Right now I have an unhappy band, and if the band's
    not happy I'm not happy..." Well, once we got in DT played incredibly,
    albeit short, hilights were definitely ACOS, and voices, and Damage Inc (I
    was psyched to finally hear this!).. I think I could feel my feet by the
    time I left, though!

    good: ACOS, Voices, Damage Inc/medley, everything else they played!

    bad: the wait, the tall people who kept blocking my view! (Damn them!
    Damn them all!), the stupid 1am curfew on weeknights in CT, the sound (did
    anyone else think the sound wasn't that good this night?

    Dec 30th: Much less of a wait! We got in around 8:30, but then had to wait
    until 10:30 for DT to come on (at least it was warm!)... once they finally
    came on, they rocked! The sound was way better than the wed. show, it was
    cranked! They played Scarred! It had a cool instrumental intro thing that
    led into it too... too bad it got over at 12:30!

    The good: Everything they played completely rocked... the sound was loud
    *and* clear! (except for the couple times James' microphone dropped out
    on him - looked like he was getting mad too)... some cool DT fanatic named
    Chris that I met- another proud owner of the JPM100! Being like 5 feet
    from JP! (he's a god!.. they're all gods!)
     
    the bad: the wait (ok, I'm an impatient DT fan! :), the shitheads that
    were trying to cut in front of my JP gawking spot!

    the weird: the random kid who suddenly passed out behind us (and he was
    sober!), the blonde dude who decided he wanted to crowd surf using someone
    else as a ladder, and subsequently got dropped on his head...

    The funny: How whenever one of the band member takes a solo spot, the
    entire crowd suddenly stops and stares!

    Chad
    ccook@bbn.com

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    Date: Tue, 02 Jan 1996 14:42:01 -0600 (CST)
    From: SEEGED73@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: scary music
    Message-ID: <01HZJE19EOKU000VTT@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU>

    This is for Ben and whoever else likes scary music.

    Try Sancuary's "Into The Mirror Black," Fates Warning's "The Spectre
    Within" and "Night On Brocken," Mussorgsky's "Night On Bald Mountain," and
    the fifth movement from Berlioz's "Symphony Fantastique" (Dream of a
    Witches Sabbath.) That's all I can think of right now.

    Did I miss anything over the last two weeks (besides Ytsecon?)

    ________________________________________________________________________________
    Debbie Seeger
    University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh
    Music Major (Recording Technology emphasis)
    Internet - seeged73@vaxa.cis.uwosh.edu

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    Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 15:05:46 -0600
    From: mjnewb@MO.NET (Monty Newberry)
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: uh, like words and stuff
    Message-ID: <199601022105.PAA05240@Walden.MO.NET>

            Hey all. Guess what I heard on the radio today? None other than
    "Innocence Faded." Actually, it was only part of it, and it was in the
    background during the Steve and D.C. morning show (no.1 in St. Louis!:), but
    the simple fact that I heard DT on the radio (especially around here) was
    cool enough. It was on this same show a few weeks ago that I heard
    Savatage's "Christmas Eve..." thing (that time, they even said who it was
    playing the song :). Evidently someone there must be into some good prog
    stuff. Too bad it doesn't "fit into the format" of the station (top 40
    alternative/rap/pop/crap). Oh well, as long as they can get some of it on,
    that'll do for now, I guess.
            Hey, with all thgis talk about the shows and the Ytsecon thing, I
    say some of us in the midwest get together whenever DT comes around this
    region of the country next time. I know of plenty of fans here, and I would
    totally dig it if I could meet some of you all. All this talk about the
    stuff has got me pumped for the next show nearby (closer than a thousand
    miles away). I'll se you all there!!! Happy New Year. God bless.

            Dale R. Newberry

    [sig trimmed]
    "Man is the only creature endowed with the power of laughter. Is he
    not also the only one that deserves being laughed at?" -Greville (1554-1628)
            "The news of my impending death came at a very bad time for me."
                                    -Steve Taylor

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    Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 15:19:20 -0700
    From: laussade@enet.net (Ktulu)
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Argh!
    Message-ID: <199601022219.PAA27375@maple.enet.net>

    >does any one hear:
    > "No matter what
    > they take from me
    > they can't take away my dignity!!!"
    > "Because the greatest...."

    Dammit! Now I'm going to think of that everytime I hear AW. :-)

    I have a question:

            I used to have this really crappy Walkman (before I ever heard of
    DT) and I constantly listened to Metallica's "Metallica" on it cuz that was
    the only tape I had. Then I got a new Walkman, and new guitar parts were
    audible, as well as sound effects, stuff like that. Do some Walkmans just
    not pick up all the data? Or was I being deaf for 6 months?

    > Im guessing that the doubling was the choice of David Prater and
    >not James....his voice is too damn good to double....but Prater is
    >making a living so maybe he knows what hes doing....

    Why have the same production through the whole album? Why not change from
    song to song? i.e.,(IMO) most of the songs on I&W would sound somewhat
    better with, for instance with the "live" drum sounds used on Awake, but
    IMOA, LtL really needs the-to quote someone (forgot who!)- "wrath of Zeus
    snare trigger". Why not have different production from song to song? YOu
    might say that it would be impossible to recreate live, but if I am correct,
    live doesn't sound the same as the album anyways. Just a thought...

    Ben "Finally Got His Double Bass Drum Pedal" Laussade
    "Tweet, tweet, tweet!" Some bird, from A Change of Seasons
    Bad spellers of the world UNTIE!!!

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    Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 17:37:40 -0500
    From: augie@unix.asb.com (Heath)
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Perfect Strangers
    Message-ID: <v01510100ad0f5f68ce69@[165.254.128.55]>

    Ben wrote:
    > Am I the only one that thinks Perfect Strangers is a crappy way to
    > end a show? I'd take Learning to Live over PF 8 days of the week (Sundays
    > too!). I mean, gawrsh!

    I was really pissed when DT closed with that song. I don't even know why
    in the world they even played that damn song. It's not like it's their
    song, it's Deep Purple's. At less Dream Theater has some plan that we
    haven't seen and is going to release that song as a single, it was one poor
    song to close with.

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    Date: 2 Jan 1996 18:02:35 U
    From: "mmetzger" <mmetzger@bostech.com>
    To: "YTSEJAM" <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
    Subject: Censorship Test
    Message-ID: <n1391516968.58803@macsmtp>

    Well, maybe it is the devil in me, but my curiosity over the new censorship on
    the YTSEJAM has really gotten the best of me. To satisfy my curiosity (and
    doubtless that of others), I have crafted the following test message to see
    what makes it past our censor. Here goes (note: my original post was 6 parts,
    in case the whole thing gets deep sixed).

    1) Shamelessly Kissing Moderator's ass:

    Ken Bibb is the greatest !! He oversees the best list on the planet. Ken
    rules !!

    2) Dream Theater gushing:

    Dream Theater is the greatest !! What a great band they are to play a few
    dates over the holidays to their best fans. They really seemed tight in their
    performance after a layoff, too.

    3) Dream Theater Member comment:

    James really stepped it up during this last mini tour. His vocals seemed to
    be on (even though they did get a bit lost in the mix) and he really showed
    some emotion and had a really cool stage presence. This lack of emotion had
    kind of dogged him in the past, but he was really into things last week.
    Here's hoping that this was sincere and that it continues. THANKS JAMES !!!!

    [4 was a personal message (I would normally forward); 5 and 6 are on
     topics that I'm asking people to hold off on discussing until the
     other list is set up.--kbibb]

    Later,
    Mark Metzger, five line sig, pushing yet another window:
    [sig trimmed]

    --
    Ken Bibb is cool, line #1
    Ken Bibb is the best, line #2
    Ken Bibb rules, line #3
    Ken Bibb probably has many friends, line #4
    

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