YTSEJAM Digest 1226
Today's Topics:
1) Another UK jammer (Re: YTSEJAM digest 1224)
by dgourley@mltsa.mlm.att.com
2) Re: Dave Mustaine
by borlangw <borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk>
3) Re: Al Pitrelli
by Kris Claerhout <100522.625@compuserve.com>
4) I NEED HELP ! (JPM-100)
by Paggen Christophe <940659@mercure.umh.ac.be>
5) Prater and old songs (Re: YTSEJAM digest 1224)
by Ernesto Schnack <ernie@mail.pananet.com>
6) Same riffs - different songs - different bands
by Christopher Caminiti <ccamin1@zeus.towson.edu>
7) ATTN QR FANS (cd for sale)
by Skooc@aol.com
8) ACOS reservation
by szucseue@saber.udayton.edu
9) Oh!
by laussade@enet.net (Ktulu)
10) Re: Once again (drums, Death, covers)
by borlangw <borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk>
11) Re: Any UK jammers out there?
by borlangw <borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk>
12) Re: ACOS project UPDATE!!
by borlangw <borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk>
13) Mike's Grandmother
by DreamNDay@aol.com
14) 7-string songs (YTSEJAM digest 1224)
by mojoman@pointblank.com
15) WINTERS BANE
by Conrad Chi <uchic00@mcl.ucsb.edu>
16) First time on Ytsejam!
by Alex Sartirana <sartiran@alfieri.alfieri.voghera.pv.it>
17) Re: Portnoy on Rush tribute album
by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
18) I would want news on DT video-live
by pralf@rm3.flashnet.it
19) DT praise
by btomko@main.glasscity.net (brian tomko)
20) Re: Fates Warning
by Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU>
21) question on bootlegs
by The Silent Man <bdon@wam.umd.edu>
22) "Godliness in music"
by dhplotki@students.wisc.edu (Dave Plotkin)
23) To Mike Portnoy: With Sympathy
by YtsejamDT@aol.com
24) What???
by laussade@enet.net (Ktulu)
25) Hello everyone!!! (Torman Maxt)
by TRuder01@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 10:22:03 +0000 (GMT)
From: dgourley@mltsa.mlm.att.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Another UK jammer (Re: YTSEJAM digest 1224)
Message-ID: <9601121022.AA17149@inca.mlm.att.com>
> Patricia wrote:
> > There's me- Patricia in Surrey, there's Graham in Glasgow, Chris
> > in Cambridge.[deleted]
Well, I guess you can add Dave from Bath to the list of UK people (even
though I'm working in Malmesbury!!) Seen DT once (Cardiff St David's Hall
about 2 years ago); have this horrible tendency to be away through
work when they're in the UK :-(
Other favourite bands (of a similar style): Marillion, Arena, Queensryche
and Kings X.
And now back to work....
Dave
[sig trimmed]
David Gourley Telephone: +44-1666 832557
AT&T Network Systems, Swindon Road, Malmesbury, Wiltshire, England.
email: david.gourley@att.com (Internet)
Optimist (n) - One who believes that life cannot get any worse.
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 10:53:01 GMT
From: borlangw <borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Dave Mustaine
Message-ID: <9601111053.AA22111@keppel.dcs.gla.ac.uk>
Ben wrote:
> Me: Hi Dave. Have you ever heard of a band called Dream Theater.
> Dave: A little.
> Me: Did you like what you heard?
> Dave: Yes.
I remember a while ago on the Radio 1 Rock Show, just before 'Awake' was
released, they played '6:00' (it was the first time I got to hear any 'Awake'
material). They were also having a 'session' with Dave Mustaine.
When asked what he thought of the DT song, Dave did a 'snoring' noise. So I
don't actually think he likes them after all :-)
Graham B. [sig trimmed]
| Graham Borland |:: | borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk |::
| Dept. of Computing Science |:: | http://www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~borlangw |::
| Glasgow University |:: | +44 (0)141 357 4033 |::
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Date: 12 Jan 96 10:10:47 EST
From: Kris Claerhout <100522.625@compuserve.com>
To: <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Re: Al Pitrelli
Message-ID: <960112151046_100522.625_JHB48-1@CompuServe.COM>
Al Pitrelli isn't playing anymore in Widowmaker, because they split up and Dee
Snider reformed Twisted Sister...
Kris
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Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 16:34:53 -0100
From: Paggen Christophe <940659@mercure.umh.ac.be>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: I NEED HELP ! (JPM-100)
Message-ID: <9601121530.AA15336@mercure.umh.ac.be>
Hi there ! I really need to know more about the IBANEZ JPM-100 guitar (John
Petrucci's). If anybody knows its technical specs - please mail me. Why ?
Well, I've got a 540S and I'd like to buy a JPM100 but I've never seen it -
even the color ! And it's not pictured in any catalogue I've seen so far...
Thank you for your help - Bye
Paggen Christophe
940659@mercure.umh.ac.be
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Date: Fri, 12 Jan 96 12:51:07 +0000 (GMT)
From: Ernesto Schnack <ernie@mail.pananet.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Prater and old songs (Re: YTSEJAM digest 1224)
Message-ID: 12510753100235@pananet.com
At 09:18 AM 1/12/96 +0000, you wrote:
>I couldn't stand another Prater production with either triggered or rattling
>drums and vocals processed and mixed down to death! Uh... BTW.
I don't think you shoul d worry since after listening to aCoS DT has already
learned more about the studio way and can take charge of their sound...
BTW... you guys know how somebody was talking to Derek(I don't remember who)
and he said that they didnt play any songs from WDADU because they were 8
years old... what if by the year 2000 they stop playing songs from I&W?
spooky thought, huh? I doubt it'll happen, but you never know...
-- If you're ever eating hot coal, swallow it fast or else you'll burn your tongue. DEEP THOUGHTS by Ernie------------------------------
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 13:50:24 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Caminiti <ccamin1@zeus.towson.edu> To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Same riffs - different songs - different bands Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.91.960112134014.1231A-100000@zeus.towson.edu>
Hey there jammers -
I am going absolutely crazy with all this snow on the ground and thought of an interesting new thread. I believe that similar riffs in DT's music has been discussed, but how about same riffs from different bands' music??
I can think of a couple off the bat:
The bass line from Bush's "I don't want to come back down. . . " song & Bon Jovi's "You Give Love a Bad Name" EXACTLY the same (both in B minor)
The opening riff in Styx' "Suite Madame Blue" and Zepplin's "Babe I'm Gonna Leave You" (Styx is in B minor, Zep in A minor)
I have a couple of more, but let's see if anyone get's them. Let's use our imagination too =)
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Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 14:28:34 -0500 From: Skooc@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: ATTN QR FANS (cd for sale) Message-ID: <960112142834_60172430@emout05.mail.aol.com>
Hello jammers
I have a QR cd for sale if anyone is interested. It's a U.S. only promo cd called "Evolution Calling" and is a compilation from 1990 featuring tracks from the EP and first four discs. The track listing is: best i can, i don't believe in love, revolution calling, walk in the shadows, take hold of the flame, queen of the reich, the lady wore black, the warning. All this for the unbelievably low price of $20 including postage. If you are interested please email me privately and don't post to the jam.
Scott Cook <skooc@aol.com>
They call me Mad the Swine, I've come to save you.
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Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 14:42:24 -0500 From: szucseue@saber.udayton.edu To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: ACOS reservation Message-ID: <96011214422432@saber.udayton.edu>
Hey, whoever's got the ACOS cd project, put me down for a copy. I totally forgot your address, but if it's a good quality sounding show, I'm in. Please mail me with details
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 15:31:09 -0700 From: laussade@enet.net (Ktulu) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Oh! Message-ID: <199601112231.PAA21597@maple.enet.net>
>The transition from the recording to the live performance is either real >smooth [deleted]
Thank you Elliott. I was wondering why that sounded so wierd on TDoE. I thought the tape skipped or something. When DT did ACoS at the shows, during Carpe Diem when James sings: "We can learn from the past, but those days are gone" and James holds out the "gone" and over dubs "We can hope for the future but there may not be one" how's he do that? Does he just hold out the "gone" like he does in TDoE and blow off the last line? Or something else?
>he odd measures are quite simple, not as in Learning to Live : I >cant even play the intro along with 'my' drummer
Suggestion: Put on some earmuffs, and/or earplugs so you can't hear the drums, then play straight quarter notes. :-)
>I've just heard that Mike Portnoy's grandmother passed away on January 5th. >She was buried today in the New York area beside her beloved daughter >(Mike's mother). If any of you would like to post messages to him >concerning this, I'm sure that the messages will eventually reach him.
Bummer! Ytse-Ben gives all his sympathy to Mr. Portnoy.
>One more thing, any classical guitarists out there?
My uncle is.
>NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@freenet.scri.fsu.edu>
Nugs! I thought you were dead!
>"And my son's (er sun's) not so bright" >"Breaking delicate winds"
/me laughs hysterically.
Ben "/me" Laussade "Stop the whales!" "Save the madness!"
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Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 18:36:55 GMT From: borlangw <borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Once again (drums, Death, covers) Message-ID: <9601121836.AA04355@bleaker.dcs.gla.ac.uk>
Steffen wrote: > Back to Tama, back to Bear Track, back to Prater, back to IAW?
Therefore, back to surprise hit single with gallons of MTV play :-)
Graham B. [sig trimmed]
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Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 18:26:25 GMT From: borlangw <borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Any UK jammers out there? Message-ID: <9601121826.AA04342@bleaker.dcs.gla.ac.uk>
> > There's me- Patricia in Surrey, there's Graham in Glasgow, Chris > > in Cambridge.
There's also Edd in Stirling (who I met at the Satch gig, where I got a signed drum-skin, YIPPEE!) and Ian in St Andrews who is a lurker :-)
And soon, Neil Elliot (of the fanzine), also in Surrey?
Graham B. [sig trimmed]
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Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 18:30:41 GMT From: borlangw <borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: ACOS project UPDATE!! Message-ID: <9601121830.AA04345@bleaker.dcs.gla.ac.uk>
Marcel wrote: > 2. What is .................. (still looking for a good name, hint!, hint!)
Dream Come True? Maybe that's appropriate, since we were all DESPERATE for them to record and play ACOS . . .
Graham B. [sig trimmed]
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Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 15:23:25 -0500 From: DreamNDay@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Mike's Grandmother Message-ID: <960112152322_60202042@emout05.mail.aol.com>
Dear Mike, I'm sorry to hear about the unfortunate passing of your grandmother. All of your fans are with you right now, and I'm sure all of the jammers will pray for her.
PS. I said we will pray for Mike Portnoys grandmother. Please don't get started on the religion thing again. If you don't believe in God, then forget about that part. later--------------Brian
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Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 14:55:22 -0500 From: mojoman@pointblank.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: 7-string songs (YTSEJAM digest 1224) Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.1.12.14.55.22.2377490627.1149777@pointblank.com>
To the person who brought up the seven string songs on awake.... I would like to offer a correction....
6:00 does not have a seven string....
the seven string songs are 1) CIAW 2) The Mirror 3) Lie L8r, Mojoman
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Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 12:57:29 -0800 (PST) From: Conrad Chi <uchic00@mcl.ucsb.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: WINTERS BANE Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.960112125450.14767A-100000@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu>
Are there any jammers, especially in Ohio, that have heard WINTERS BANE. They have played a few shows with DREAM THEATER so somebody has probably seen them. If anybody knows if the cd is worth getting let me know.
Thanks. Conrad
--By the way, it is a balmy 85 degrees in Santa Barbara!!---
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Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 22:04:32 +0100 From: Alex Sartirana <sartiran@alfieri.alfieri.voghera.pv.it> To: Mailing ytsejam <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: First time on Ytsejam! Message-ID: <30F6CCE0.1456@mbox.alfieri.voghera.pv.it>
Hello ytsejammers! My name is Alessandro, I'm 21 and I'm from Italy. This is the first time I write to ytsejam and I'm very happy for having joined the mailing list. I have received my first digests and, at the beginning, I felt a little "confused"... all those messages!
I listened to DT for the first time in 1992; I bought I&W without knowing nothing about the band and what kind of music they did. What a risk! :) It was a great surprise... I must say it! The music on that CD grabbed me since the first time I listened to it. It was so unusual to me; I had no great knowledge of progressive music and I had never listened to something like I&W before. Amazing!
So I'm here to discuss with you on everything about Dream Theater and I'd like, expecially, to know if there are some Ytsejammers from Italy or from Southern Europe.
If you're out there, why don't you Email me?
I can see much clearer now I'm blind "Ora che ho perso la vista ci vedo di piu'"
DT Rules!
Alessandro
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Date: Fri, 12 Jan 96 13:19:49 PST From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Portnoy on Rush tribute album Message-ID: <9601122119.AA25753@tengs1.teng>
> I just got a confirmation that a Rush tribute album is in the works and
Billy Sheenan and one of the guitarists from Shadow Gallery are also playing on it.
I've heard some negative comments on Magna Carta's other tribute albums. Anyone else care to throw some opinions out about them?
btw, Death's _Symbolic_ is *awesome*. "Sacred Serenity" has some of the most beautiful guitar melodies that I've ever heard (that and "1000 Eyes" are my favorites). I like the death-vocals better than Cynic's, too.
Zach
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Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 22:24:56 +0100 From: pralf@rm3.flashnet.it To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: I would want news on DT video-live Message-ID: <199601122124.WAA01562@ns.rm3.flashnet.it>
hi, I am an Italian fan of the big DREAM THEATER and in special way for James Labrie and Mike Portnoy. I want to have news around a video-live of next exit (announced from the specialized Italian newspapers). I in Rome have seen two concerts of the DREAM THEATER and I would have liked to participate to the concerts that they have performed in December 1995: reading your comments I think that they have been really excellent.
thank you
Roberto Presta (pralf@rm3.flashnet.it)
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Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 18:19:33 -0800 From: btomko@main.glasscity.net (brian tomko) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: DT praise Message-ID: <199601130219.SAA16468@main>
John Myung is practically a bass god, up there with Michael Manring, Jonas Hellborg, Geddy, and Jaco. Check out his line doubling Petrucci at 12:30 into ACoS. Anyone know if he's still using a Tung? My brother swears he can hear Bach influences in Mind Beside Itself, especially Erotomania. I think I can, too. James LaBrie is as good with the vocals as Petrucci and Myung are on guitar and bass. he is the only singer for DT. My condolences go to Mike Portnoy. Mark
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Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 22:09:05 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Re: Fates Warning Message-ID: <Akxm9FW00iWRM81aFb@andrew.cmu.edu>
> > who plays keyboards? that wasn't too bad. > > Boy!!! You must be really disappointed! > You only like the instrument which isn't there!!! > (O.K. "Monument" has some keyboards in it, but there's no key-player in > the band).
Actually, Monument has no keyboards. Those are guitar synths. The keyboardists that do appear are Kevin Moore on At Fates Fingers and Mark Castiglione on Quietus. There might be some more, but those are the most prominent ones.
-Max
Anton Max Keyboards, Aepithex MadMax+@cmu.edu
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Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 02:54:59 -0500 (EST) From: The Silent Man <bdon@wam.umd.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: question on bootlegs Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.91.960113025011.3369A-100000@rac2.wam.umd.edu>
I was just thinking the other day of how serious bootlegs are be taken with respect to the law. I mean, let's say that a cop comes to your house and discovers all your boots from all your favorite bands. Can he seriously do something about it, if he was aware that they were bootlegs?
Bootlegs are illegal, but I want to know how "illegal" they really are. (The example being the possession of them)
...Brandon
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Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 00:18:25 -0700 From: dhplotki@students.wisc.edu (Dave Plotkin) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: "Godliness in music" Message-ID: <v02110100ad1ce5901c7b@[144.92.181.159]>
I'd like to briefly respond to Debbie Seeger's and Dave's (forgot last name) rebuttal to Stefan's post (Digest 1216) regarding how we as listeners should treat rock musicians. Dave, I'm 100% on your side. I couldn't have said it better myself. The way in which DT (along with Rush and Yes for that matter) inspire me is indescribable. Whenever I listen to them, I constantly feel that I have some connection with the music coming out of my speakers. Part of the beauty of any of these bands is that MOST fans are die hard, meaning that we possess that certain fire and passion which moves us in countless ways. We say to ourselves, "How is it that these people can come together and actually compose material with such intricate and definitive patterns and mood swings? How at one moment in a song can there be this nasty hard-edged-sounding section which gets the vital signs going, and yet a minute later something that's so light and airy, almost supernatural that it can move you to tears"? (Take Learning to Live, or The Gates of Delirium by Yes, or The Camera Eye by Rush and you'll see what I mean, Debbie and Stefan) I wouldn't call this behavior childish; more like an extremely undying PASSION which animates us all and spills over into others areas of our lives. So if by chance we should be so lucky indeed to come in contact with anyone in a group who has inspired us in such a way as this, by all means don't feel intimidated to say something like: "Moreso than being able to meet you is the way that your music has reached and inspired me." Something like that. I have no doubt that any successful band member would be pleased to hear such a statement. And, does it really matter what others who may overhear you say such a thing think? Understand; this is your fire, this is the way you feel, so go ahead and express it!! It doesn't imply that these musicians "are better than us," just simply that they've evoked emotions within us that are unparalleled in nature. We're not making them "big-headed ego-maniacs," we just want let them know how we feel, let them know how much their music has gotten across to us. Sure Debbie, obviously I'm not implying that you said this, but if one were to say something like "Mr. X, you're the greatest guitarist ever," or something not terribly meaningful like that, it's possible you'd get some sort of cold response in return. Artists don't really give a damn whether or not you think they're the best; they want constructive feedback which they're actually able to respond to: things such as songwriting, technique, and the like. BTW, comparing Jeffrey Dahmer or O.J. to recognized figures such as musicians or artists?? Not quite. Music has affected me a bit more, personally. Well, thats about it. I'm a bit out of breath considering this is my first post. Hope it's a pleasure to the eye. Later...
Dave Plotkin
"Dreams transport desires, drive you when you're down Dreams transport the ones who need to get out of town." -- Middletown Dreams
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Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 01:43:52 -0500 From: YtsejamDT@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: To Mike Portnoy: With Sympathy Message-ID: <960113014352_40311021@mail04.mail.aol.com>
This is for Mike Portnoy regarding the death of his grandmother:
Mike, I want to offer you my deepest sympathy.
I too lost my grandmother back in October and so I know how it feels (just like another jam member mentioned too). But I know it does help me to think that she's in a better place now and even though she's gone, she'll always stay in my heart and thoughts. I hope that thought will help you too.
Once again, my deepest sympathy. Take care and keep strong.
Sincerely, Irene
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Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 16:15:22 -0700 From: laussade@enet.net (Ktulu) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: What??? Message-ID: <199601122315.QAA00226@maple.enet.net>
>Drummer on "Individual..." and "Symbolic" was Gene Hoglan, >ex-Dark Angel, now ex-Death. He left the band, which was BTW dropped by >Roadrunner. Chuck Schuldiner thinks of waiting one or two years and restarting >with a new sound then. Ok, another one: Anyone heard of Atheist?
Yer SHITtin me! Gene Hoglan rocks! That's a BUMmer.
>Then I tried Rush (once again). I listened to "2112" and "Moving Pictures" and >was bored. [deleted]
You know, I did the same thing. Get Hemispheres. That's the one that I really like. 2112 and MP just don't excite me.
>He's officially signed and will be doing drum clinics for them "in the > distant future".
And Mike, if you read this...COME TO LAS VEGAS!!!!
>Anyone like the Cocteau Twins? Anyway, I live in San Jose, but >I go to school in San Luis Obispo at Cal Poly. I'll let you know if I find >anything out about them coming thru here. Take it easy, Christian ^^^^^^^^^^ Hey! No religious discussion on the Jam! ;-) :-) :-) :-)
>Ben, this is really wierd, cos I heard a radio show when Awake was [deleted] The radio presenter asked him what he thought of Dream Theater >and he slagged them off!
He said that the song he heard was "the one with the video". Maybe he just got insanely jealous of DT's talent. :-)
>The world doesn't stop at Dream Theater.
BULL!
Nothing can stop me now cause I don't care anymore....
Ben "/me" Laussade "Stop the whales!" "Save the madness!"
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Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 00:33:28 -0500 From: TRuder01@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Hello everyone!!! (Torman Maxt) Message-ID: <960113003327_60542874@emout06.mail.aol.com>
Hello Dream Theater fans...My name is Tony Massaro and I play guitar in a band called Torman Maxt. As fellow progressive music fans I'm sure you're probably as sick of the commercialism and lack of artistry in popular music as I am. Bands like Dream Theater, Rush and Queensryche make music really worth listening to and have had a major influence in the development of my song writing style.
I am a bit leery of writing this letter as a form of promoting my own band, but I was hoping for some understanding and sympathy by fellow music fans and musicians who know of the struggle that good bands who don't play mainstream music face. We have an album out now that's called "Just Talking About the Universe...So Far" that was released on our own Mars Hill Records Label. We have received some great reviews world wide as well as some decent mail order sales, but have had almost every "music industry/major label" door slammed shut in our face because we're not commercial and have songs with "too many parts". I was just hoping for a sympathetic ear from some fellow progressive rockers.
If you are interested in checking out our home page, the address is:
http://www.torman-maxt.com/tmaxt E-mail: tmaxt1@aol.com
Also, I would love to hear music written by any of you out there who play in a band, whether you have a CD or a demo, or even just a live garage recording. I know that there are many excellent bands out there that haven't gotten a legitimate chance to show what they can do. I think it would be real cool to start a network of fellow musicians to present ideas and concepts to each other about song writing, lyric writing, recording, manufacturing CD's, etc.
I hope to hear from you soon...
Tony massaro
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