YTSEJAM Digest 1232
Today's Topics:
1) Welcome Back
by Michael.Bradley@mail.trincoll.edu (Michael Bradley)
2) Re: Bombay Vidaloo
by Sean T Gill <stg@csd.uwm.edu>
3) New WWW Page
by Steven Jacobsen <jacobssa@wing.safb.af.mil>
4) Keybd Stuff
by Mr Who? <ma5jw@bath.ac.uk>
5) Re: ACOS Live - The "Outro"
by Andrew Keegan <akeegan@liii.com>
6) Special DT gift? (Re: YTSEJAM digest 1229)
by as129@detroit.freenet.org (Rahiel Elaine Housey)
7) Mustaine
by DreamNDay@aol.com
8) Portnoy Interview, Part 3 (RAISE THE KNIFE)
by BIORDI Bruno <biorb@mail.interpac.be>
9) Re: ACOS Live - The "Outro"
by Damon M. Fibraio <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
10) Effects Processor
by bflynn@sps.edu (Ben Flynn)
11) I'm back & stuff/Re: Synthesizers/Keyboards!
by Bigman <martinah@csd.uwm.edu>
12) People
by GHSrocker@gnn.com (George Szumski)
13) Meteoric Replies
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 14:19:13 -0500
From: Michael.Bradley@mail.trincoll.edu (Michael Bradley)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Welcome Back
Message-ID: <v01520d01ad22f655fdc0@[157.252.65.110]>
Hey guys!
Just wanted to let you all know that I finally have moved back into
school and am back on the net. I have some very brief comments to make
regarding the December shows...
First, I must agree with Mike Bahr(thanks for Cygnus, it kicks)
when he said that the best way to act around DT is basically by not acting at
all--be yourself. The first night in New London, my friends and I were the
first in line and were the only ones outside the El 'n Gee to see the band
come in. Instead of bombarding them with questions etc., we just said hello
to each member as the entered the club. After the show, Derek Sherinian came
out into the bar area and we had a very nice conversation. None of us asked
for autographs. Finally, when the band came out after the show, we asked for
Derek's autograph and he cordially obliged.
In general, I preface "Could you sign this?" with "Sorry to bug you."
We as fans can never tell what kind of mood a band is in, so it's best to
tread lightly.
Well, the same thing happened in Long Island. We got there early and
talked to Derek after the show. By this point, most of the band recognized us.
The last night, in New London, my friend and I gave Mike Portnoy a
bottle of Jagermeister. We also gave John Petrucci twizzlers and gave the
whole band a card thanking them for 4 great shows. After, they thanked us and
seemed genuinely grateful for the gesture.
My point here is the following: I saw a lot of people yelling at
the band members and being very annoying in their methods of geting their
attention. Some guys were yelling at Derek because he wouldn't come out and
sign autographs BEFORE the show.
The way to REALLY get to know a band is to resist the urge to
always ask for autographs in favor of just TALKING to them. Ask how their
drive was, ask about the setlist, etc. Many people who claimed to be huge DT
fans didn't give a shit after they got the band's autograph. These guys
aren't printing presses, they're people. Let's all remember that.
THANK YOU DEREK SHERINIAN! He definately won the prize for friendliest band
member this tour.
Also, it was great to see all the YTSEJAMMERS at the YTSECON II and at the
shows.
One last thing. Does ANYONE have a tape of Space Dye Vest from the
Malibu soundcheck? THEY WERE PLAYING IT!!! Later all!
-Mike Bradley
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 13:56:45 -0600 (CST)
From: Sean T Gill <stg@csd.uwm.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Bombay Vidaloo
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.960117135501.31263A-100000@alpha2.csd.uwm.edu>
The one on Guitar's Practicing Musicians is the same as LatM. That's the
only recording of it that I know about.
TTFN-Sean
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 14:54:01 -0600
From: Steven Jacobsen <jacobssa@wing.safb.af.mil>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: New WWW Page
Message-ID: <s0fd0dee.032@wing.safb.af.mil>
Have just been allocated space for my new web page and am looking for any
DT/QR gifs/jpeg/bmp I can use in the design of my page. Would appreciate any
information that any of you out there can provide. Please e-mail personally
at jacobssa@hqamc.safb.af.mil so as not to clog of the jam. Hate to see all
of Ken's good work go to waste! :)
Steve <jacobssa@wing.safb.af.mil>
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 22:05:14 +0000 (GMT)
From: Mr Who? <ma5jw@bath.ac.uk>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Keybd Stuff
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960117220353.4293B-100000@slc-08>
Does anyone know of any DT keyboard music around?
Thanks Muchly
Jimbo
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 17:07:25 -0500 (EST)
From: Andrew Keegan <akeegan@liii.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Re: ACOS Live - The "Outro"
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960117170456.8432A-100000@oak.liii.com>
On Wed, 17 Jan 1996, mmetzger wrote:
> ACOS, at least live, really needs a loud climax [deleted]
At the summer US shows, they didn't play the outro. I agree that it sounds
better live without the outro.
Did they play the outro at the European summer shows?
Andy
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 17:49:47 -0500
From: as129@detroit.freenet.org (Rahiel Elaine Housey)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Special DT gift? (Re: YTSEJAM digest 1229)
Message-ID: <199601172249.RAA25441@detroit.freenet.org>
Dear YtseJammers
Could anyone point me in the direction of a special DT recording to give as a
special Valentine's Day gift?? Perhaps a "hard-to-find recording" ?
My condolances to Mike Portnoy. I am thinking of you, if you can see this!
Ray
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 19:02:25 -0500
From: DreamNDay@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Mustaine
Message-ID: <960117190221_119671766@mail02.mail.aol.com>
I told Mustane about whats being said on Ytsejam and asked him what he
thought of DT this was my response:
>Should it not matter what you think more than what I think? And I cannot
>deny their talent. This should be the end of this debate.
>
>Mustaine
>
>I will be ending this March 2nd.
>After that you can reach me through the fan club.
[deleted]
>Join the CyberArmy..Megadeth's fanclub
>CyberArmy
>PO Box 883488
>San Francisco, Cal.91488
>thefanclub@aol.com
He seems kinda upset over the whole thing, so let this be the end of the
argument, OK?
later--------------Brian
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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 01:22:27 +0100 (MET)
From: BIORDI Bruno <biorb@mail.interpac.be>
To: YTSEJAM@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Portnoy Interview, Part 3 (RAISE THE KNIFE)
Message-ID: <199601180022.BAA27158@donald.interpac.be>
Hi DT fans,=20
Here is the final part of the Mike PORTNOY's interview, Written in
HARD ROCK Magazine (January 96 Issue).
H.R. : Kevin Moore left Dream Theater to do easier music. Do you understand
his choice and do you yield to the temptation for making easier songs,
like him ?
M.P. : We always liked that kind of music, but Kevin was ONLY intesting by
very basic music. We also like that kind of easy songs, and some of
our songs are easy but we like harder stuffs. Fans of NIRVANA will
find us definitely too technical, but I think there are a lot of
kids who are looking for something more. It's that kind of public we
want to convince. =20
H.R. : What prominence do you give to the lyrics?
M.P. : I confess to you that lyrics seems to be for me the last priority. For
me, the essential is the music. After, I give a lot of importance to
the technique. Then comes the lyrics. Of course, the 3 parts are
indispensable ! If the melody sounds great,but the lyrics suck, all
the song is fake !
H.R. : What are your favorites groups ?
M.P. : RUSH and YES. RUSH is THE group ! As a teenager, they already were my
favorites ones. They are extraordinary musicians, who are able to play
very complex parts with the 'heavy' touch. I also like groups like
QUEENSR=FFCHE and MARILLION.
H.R. : In the category 'Future Big Groups' ?
M.P. : Unhesitatingly FATES WARNING -Unfortunately not considered at their
just values-. There are like us, in their music way. I always think FW
must be liked by our fans. There are also the group ECHOLYN, who
opened for us. That's like GENESIS but adapted to the nineties.
Another group called SPOCKS BEARD -a formation who's working with our
ex manager- and unfortunatey without any contracts. It sounds like a
mixing between YES and KANSAS. Finally, there are groups from Magna
Carta : SHADOW GALLERY and ENCHANT. They make great job !
H.R. : These last groups sound like Dream Theater, no ?
M.P. : Yes, I agree with you because many groups signed on Magna Carta
sounds like us, and I can't tell you if it's good or bad (laugh). It's
fun because Magna Carta was contacting me for the tribute to RUSH. And
I'll make the drum parts with Billy Sheehan on bass guitar. That will
be great !
H.R. : For you, QUEEN & IRON MAIDEN can be called 'progressive groups' ?
M.P. : Absolutely ! IRON MAIDEN isn't so progressive than there are ten
years ago, with their songs of ten minutes, including long
instrumental parts. Queen was progressive, because it's was inventor :
Not necessary by the technique, but by the original sound. Don't
forget DEEP PURPLE, who mixed metal and classic.
H.R. : About DEEP PURPLE, why choosing a title from 1984, and not a much
traditional one ?
M.P. : A the start, we have chosen to play "Child In Time" and we worked on
it. The day before the gig, we were invited for a radio interview at
the BBC. That programme was animated by Bruce Dickinson. It was cool,
and we decided to record a version of "Perfect Strangers" with him. It
sounded so great then we decided to play it at the show.
H.R. : Can you recommend to our readers -much metal than progressive- some CDs?
M.P. : "Awake" from DT, "Images & Words" from DT, "A Change Of Seasons" from
DT... (laugh). No, seriously, my selection is : "Permanent Waves"
& "Hemispheres" from RUSH, "Close To The Edge" & "Fragile" from
YES, "Danger Money" from U.K., "Misplaced Childhood" from
MARILLION, and "Lamb Lies Down On Broadway" from GENESIS! Oops,
I forget "Two For The Show" from KANSAS!
H.R. : Is the song "A Change Of Seasons" most representative of DT?
M.P. : I think we can say that, because it includes a lot of different
parts. But if I play only one song for a man who's discovering DT, I
play "Take The Time" ! It's not so long but it's also complete than
ACOS. But if he can support a 22 minutes track, ACOS is a good
introduction to the DT style, yes !
H.R. : What about the new album ?
M.P. : We just start to work on it and we will compose while 3 or 4 month
again. We have just finished one track, called "Raise The Knife" and
I've just finished to write the lyrics. It's a typical DT song, with a
longer of 12 minutes. I think the new album will be in the same way
that older ones. I think it will be the best DT album because we are
very motivate ! And Derek SHERINIAN brings a lot of fresh air to DT.
H.R. : Soon in France ?
M.P. : I think the new album will be ready for the next summer, but if the
tour doesn't start by Europe, don't expect to see us before 1997.
Interview by Philippe LAGEAT, for HARD ROCK MAGAZINE.
Transcribed from french by Bruno BIORDI.
TanX to Ken Bibb for some corrections of this traduction ;-)
Have a look to :
--------------
SHADOW GALLERY - "Shadow Gallery" 1992
- "Carved In Stone" 1995
MAGELLAN - "Hour Of Restoration" 1991
- "Impending Ascension" 1993
LANDMARQ - "Solitary Witness" 1992
- "Infinity Parade" 1993
- "The Vision Pit" 1995
ARAGON - "The Meeting" 1992
- "Rocking Horse" 1993
- "Mouse" 1995
Bye. Bruno...
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 96 19:48:19 EST
From: Damon M. Fibraio <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: ACOS Live - The "Outro"
Message-ID: <9601180048.AA04156@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
Bag the outro to ACOS? I don't know about that. The outro seems to wrap the
song up nicely. Remember the song is about life, and the band uses the
analogy of the seasons. Well, the old man is dead and all, but there is a new
life and the cycle starts again, so the intro and outro need to be there. I
can't explain it much better than that. It's like saying that once fall is
over, things must stop for an amazing outro. No, winter picks up and the
whole winter/spring/summer/fall thing starts again. If we took the intro to
mean winter and the Crimson Sunset to be the Fall, then the outro starts
Winter again. Don't ask me why I think like this, I've been hit on the head
too many times, but I love the intro and outro. I like little musical
effectsx like those used in ACOS. To strip the outro out of the song in live
settings would leave a hole in the song. I at least would feel like something
were missing. This is my opinion and I am not flaming, so don't get uptight.
I do see your point, but unless they want to change the outro for some
reason, I believe that the song should be kept the way it is on the Cd in a
live performance, unless they want to make those classic DT modifications
they always make to their music.
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 20:20:43 -0500
From: bflynn@sps.edu (Ben Flynn)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Effects Processor
Message-ID: <v01510101ad235034f47a@[199.95.35.19]>
> I'm trying to save up for one of those guitar effects procs [deleted]
Hey,
I just bought an Alesis Midiverb IV- it's a really good unit. Try
it out in the store- its not very expensive either (about 350-400$). Just
thought I'd suggest this. Anyone else have a Midiverb or Quadraverb?
Ben
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 19:35:44 -0600 (CST)
From: Bigman <martinah@csd.uwm.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: I'm back & stuff/Re: Synthesizers/Keyboards!
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.960117191213.25753B-100000@alpha2.csd.uwm.edu>
> From: Andreas Kasper <KASPER@pc-aak.chemie.uni-mainz.de>
>
> My question for you is: is there any synthesizer or keyboard you can
> recommend for progressive rock/metal-type music?
Ummm, I've found that a half-way decent distortion pedal can turn
any keyboard into a wicked guitar. Just a thought I had...
Well, I'm back at a computer after a month of vacation (and an
awesome road trip to Long Island!). Nothing like coming back and finding 20+
jams in your inbox... just finished catching up. I envy all you people that
have computers at home...
It was excellent meeting some of you at YtseCon. Hey Roy Rog...err,
I mean Digital Man, how's it going? :^) Oh, and Bafu--thanks for knighting
me an official "fucking idiot!" :^) Also hello to Brian Wherry, the Chew
Bros., Heath Augustover (sp?), Brian Anderson, Trey, Brandon G., and, of
course, Matt, Ben, and Aaron, my road trip compadres.
Found "Lords of Sound" at a local CD store called Grand Central
Station. WOO-HOO! Finally got to hear "AY FOUNDITSA CAUDAP WIMAAAAYYY!!"
and "squeaaa waaaaah!" *Bigman is a happy camper* I only wish I had
dixcovered DT back then, cuz I was a whole 20 miles from that show. Not only
that, but is was on the radio, too... *sigh* oh, well.
Guess that's about it. Again, it was great finally meeting all of
you that were at YtseCon. Later...
Bigman
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 19:47:10
From: GHSrocker@gnn.com (George Szumski)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: People
Message-ID: <199601180044.TAA25840@mail-e1a.gnn.com>
I was stunned and amazed at the amount of people that heard Dream Theater's
version of Perfect Strangers and couldn't tell the differance between Bruce
Dickinson and James when I played both versions back to back the other day.
Kind of makes you wonder if all the snow here in the Cleveland area is just
a little TOO MUCH for mere mortals.
Speaking of mortals, I agree with Mike Bahr's statement about "just relax
and let the conversation develop" when talking to special people like our
friends in the band.
Talk to all of you soon, George.
If you see me driving sideways...wave.
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 20:11:02 -0800 (PST)
From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Meteoric Replies
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91j.960117194124.112251B-100000@homer10.u.washington.edu>
> From: "Scott D. Duren" <103430.227@compuserve.com>
> Subject: Misc.
>
> #2 - Can anyone give me an explanation behind To Live Forever - the
> source of inspiration and the exact meaning of lyrical content?
Someone discovered several lines of the song a few months ago in a book
called "Catch 22." I've never read it, but I've heard it's about the size
of a dictionary, so anyone planning to find the exact words better set
aside a weekend or two.
As for the lyrical meaning, it could be the same as the book, or it could
be something from Petrucci's mind. After asking him about the meaning of
UAGM, I'm not quite as eager to ponder his lyrical meanings as I once was.
Metropolis is a story, but Glass Moon is a reflection. I can't tell if To
Live Forever is a concrete philosophy of some sort, or a metaphor for part
of Petrucci's life...
If I'd started from the top, and worked my way down, there'd be no
reason to live forever.
To Live Forever.
The starvation has turned me outside-in, and the wind has blown me
halfway 'cross the world...across the world.
Why was I born...in an age of distrust? I'd offer some change for a
photograph. It'll always stay the same. It will always be the same.
Until I show desire for revenge, my hunger will waste me to sleep.
As long as I have to die in the attempt, then there is no reason...
To Live Forever.
I found you where they left you, there. A passing word that's gone
forever, and searching my memory for answers, I saw the words of a
letter you wrote.
She said, "You don't have to live forever, you don't want to live
forever," and everything's changing now...I don't want...
To Live Forever......no...
> #4 - ((excised)) It's disappointing to see that Kevin Moore is getting
> so trendy with his switch to the subgenre of [deleted]
Perhaps a good synopsis would be "cynically jaded?"
---- > From: kretschmer@bdt.com (Jon Kretschmer) > Subject: Dave Mustaine > > Oh, and Kbibb, I like the moderation. Small Jams are great, and there > is a noticeable improvement of quality. Thanks.Actually, it's just that I'm posting less these days. But yes, Ken's moderation seems to be working.
---- > From: WildKoba@aol.com > Subject: juicy things i gotta drool over > > who loves ya? > one and only one, > david the amorous kobayashi
And they say I have a lot of nicknames...
> ps- kaoru?? wherefore art thou, sweet pseudo-sister of mine?
Kaoru is female?
---- > From: Jeremy Lakatos <jeremy@grove.ufl.EDU> > > <*> jeremy@grove.ufl.edu (Beck Depression Inventory: 35) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ "Please Explain." --Isaac Asimov
Bafu Vai
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