YTSEJAM Digest 1239
Today's Topics:
1) ACOS outro
by Tilman Kuendgen <tiku@rz.uni-sb.de>
2) The NAMM show, JP, etc.
by Brian Wherry <bwherry@acs.bu.edu>
3) back in black
by kristopher long <long16@matrix.newpaltz.edu>
4) DT: the inside picture
by edju@scf.usc.edu (Edward Ju)
5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1234
by part@dutccia.tudelft.nl (Gerralt Partiman)
6) Hi all! UPDATE INFO
by Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com>
7) ANNOUNCING: DREAM THEATER DEMO CD SALE!
by Timothy Lodge <axe@usa.nai.net>
8) ACOS project UPDATE!!!
by v932407@si.hhs.nl
9) Prog and Valentine's (Re: YTSEJAM digest 1234)
by as129@detroit.freenet.org (Rahiel Elaine Housey)
10) Help...(plus minimal DT content)
by nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop)
11) new acquisitions
by WildKoba@aol.com
12) re: the wfs transcription
by WildKoba@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 00:06:59 +0100
From: Tilman Kuendgen <tiku@rz.uni-sb.de>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: ACOS outro
Message-ID: <199601222306.AAA22295@sbusol.rz.uni-sb.de>
>Did they play the outro at the European summer shows?
Yes, and I like it better with, if not played as the last song of the set.
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Tilman Kuendgen --- tiku@rz.uni-sb.de
...half human, half mail...
Traders! Check out my music list at: http://stud.uni-sb.de/~tiku
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Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 20:33:21 -0500 (EST)
From: Brian Wherry <bwherry@acs.bu.edu>
To: DT List <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: The NAMM show, JP, etc.
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9601222058.O44059-0100000@acs4.bu.edu>
Hey y'all! I just had a rather pleasant trip out to California to
the National Association of Music Merchants Trade Convention at the Anaheim
Convention Center. It was heaven for a guitar gear-nut like myself! There
were also all kinds of rock stars all over the place, which was pretty neat.
So I bet you guys wanna hear some Dream Theater news, eh?! Well, here's a
little:
John Petrucci was there! Yeehaw! He did an autograph session at the
Hoshino (big-ass company that owns Ibanez, TAMA, Laney, etc.) booth on
Friday, and a couple on Saturday. Judging by the huge crowds he attracted
every time, I'd say he's pretty popular! BTW, there's a new JPM signature
guitar -- well, it's the same as the first one, but the Picasso graphic deal
uses a different color scheme. Also, I don't think that production is going
to be limited to 100 on this one. Gentlemen, (and ladies) open your
wallets! The highlight of the JP-fest was his PERFORMANCE (yup, that's
right, kids) at the Lexicon booth on Saturday. Throughout he was playing
PCM-80 presets and saying how great the Lexicon PCM-80 multi-effects
processor is. Anyway, he played a bunch of things. He started off with this
clean tone "warm-up" thing, which was awfully pleasant. Then he played along
with a DAT from one of their shows from the AWAKE tour -- it was some solo
spot deal -- only Derek accompanying him. Then he played along with a DAT of
Erotomania -- very cool! He was so close that one could actually hear some
sounds coming DIRECTLY from his guitar!! One could even hear when he
switched pickups! And let me say, he played Erotomania totally flawlessly!
(BTW - he attracted quite a huge crowd -- much bigger than when Blues
Saraceno played at the Lexicon booth the day before!) After that (and a
bunch of cheering and clapping from the crowd) he played along with a DAT of
a sequence he did. Some of the drum sounds were techno-sounding, but the
tune was very cool! And then he was done! In between the tunes, he talked
about what patches he was using on the PCM-80 and whatnot -- he also answered
people's questions and stuff. Something that I noticed that kind of made me
worry: JP was wearing a wrist brace on his right wrist. I hope he's not
having major problems or anything. That would suck. Also, he was wearing --
HIS YTSEJAM SHIRT!! Yippie! I took some pictures, if y'all don't believe me.
Well, that's about it! Mike Portnoy was supposed to do an autograph
session deal, but he wasn't there when it said he was going to be there. Oh
well.
Other non-DT information:
Steve Vai has a 10th Anniversary Jem guitar out, that is very slick lookin'.
Also, Ibanez has reissued the Universe 7 string (the black one with the green
pickups and stuff). Andy Timmons has a solo album out, and he was personally
selling them at the show. Guitar players: go get some DR strings. They're
really awesome!
Well, that's all I can think of! Questions? Comments? Feel free!
Jam on!
Brian
ps- No Sara McLachlan. :`( No Marc Bonilla. (sorry Patricia)
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Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 00:03:31 -0500 (EST)
From: kristopher long <long16@matrix.newpaltz.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: back in black
Message-ID: <199601230503.AAA10855@matrix.newpaltz.edu>
Greeting fellow jammers, I have returned to school and I'm back on the jam,
as if you knew I was ever here. This is going to sound really outdated but
the Malibu show kicked ass. I just wish they did Metropolis, oh well, it
ruled anyway. I'm wearing thermal underwear the next time I go to a Malibu
show, waiting outside for that long was quite uncomfortable. New topic,
after hearing so much about Fates Warning on the jam I decided to get a cd
of theirs, I had no idea what to get so I got Inside Out. It was ok, but
nothing to write to granny about. Not quite at the DT level. I'm curious,
who's who? It's got that big picture of them but it doesn't tell you who
they are, it doesn't even tell you who plays what. I'm just curious. All I
know is that one guy looks like a bum in Penn Station. I'm getting outta
here. Later.
---Kris Long
"He doesn't like you. I don't like you either. You better watch yourself,
we're wanted men. I have the death sentence in 12 systems."
"I'll be careful."
"YOU'LL BE DEAD!"
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Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 23:18:59 -0800
From: edju@scf.usc.edu (Edward Ju)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: DT: the inside picture
Message-ID: <199601230716.XAA20770@chaph.usc.edu>
Just talked to a friend who went back to Jersey over the holidays and
I can't believe it when he told me that he hung out with the guys of DT for a
whole day. Turned out that when DT played Jersey, the opening act had ex-
Winger drummer Rod Morgenstein (sp?) on drums and he was working as Rod's
roadie, trying to set up his drums in the 10 minutes DT gave him. Being a
roadie has its perks... he got to watch Rod and the DT guys rehearse.
According to him, James LaBrie did not come in and sing with the guys until the
last 30 minutes while the rest of the band has been jamming for hours, playing
medleys of band favorites, including Zep classics that did not appear on the
ACOS EP. He also said that Derek appears to be the one having the most
problems with his parts and wasn't really fitting in the band's playing too
well (he did not know that Derek replaced Kevin and thought he was with the
band from the beginning).
My friend also mentioned that Mike was the boss who called the shots
througout the rehearsal. That was rather interesting since it paints a
completely different picture from what I've been hearing on the 'jam. People
described Mike as more of a "DT fan" who showed nothing but enthusiasm, but
according to my friend, Mike had a minor attitude and definitely runs the show
as far as dictating the band goes! He also said that John Myung was a very
quiet guy (no surprise there...) and the coolest thing was how he had dinner
with the guys and was able to get me a band photo autographed by everyone... :)
[sig trimmed]
Eddie
/::::::::- Email: edju@scf.usc.edu -::::::::\
\:::::-~ http://www-scf.usc.edu/~edju/ ~-:::::/
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Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 10:59:40 +0100
From: part@dutccia.tudelft.nl (Gerralt Partiman)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1234
Message-ID: <9601230959.AA05193@dutccia.tudelft.nl>
The e-mail address of the lateshow with David Letterman is:
lateshow@pipeline.com
I don't think we should hook DT up with Dave since he is not funny at all.
Regards,
Gerralt.
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Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 15:01:12 -0700 (MST)
From: Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Hi all! UPDATE INFO
Message-ID: <199601222201.PAA12544@bud.indirect.com>
Hi all!
Once again, I've given Jeff Chew a new update to post on his web
page. Here's how to get to it:
EMAIL: send a message only saying:
get ytsejam bahr-update.960122
to ytsejam-request@arastar.com with a subject of "asdf". (Note
^^^^^^^
that the address is NOT ytsejam@arastar.com.)
If you have problems retrieving the file, send email to
ytsejam-owner@arastar.com asking for help.
^^^^^^
WWW: http://www.columbia.edu/~jc309/dreamt.html
When Dream and Today Unite shipments are underway! I had to mail
out a lot of overseas shipments first, which has delayed the domestic
orders a little, because of how long it took to resolve lost-mails with
the overseas orders for AD and Subcon. I've already started depleting the
domestic pile, though.
Ironically, just as the poison control people predicted, that
scorpion gave me venom fever, a strange hybrid of the flu and a head
cold, that normal cold medicines do NOTHING for. It's finally working its
way out of my system today. It didn't interrupt WDATu shipping any, but
it did slow up my work on Antiquities. :( I highly recommend to everybody
NOT to get stung by a scorpion. Thanks to all those who wished me well.
RUSH: LEGENDS/CRITICAL MASS orders: at the risk of sounding like
the Death Star Control Room officer, "Please stand by..." I'm almost
ready to begin accepting orders/reservations for it, but I need youall to
hang tight just for a little bit longer. Trust me. :) I order the CDs in
sort of a cyclical fashion with the CD company, and then do my work in
the pressing room on a schedule, and my being sick plus the original
delay in WDATU set me back a bit on Antiquities, and I don't want to
begin accepting orders for CM until I'm actually _making_ it.
Did anyone else catch Tori Amos on Saturday Night Live... and
what a TERRIBLE episode of SNL huh... I mean, Tori was the only reason
worth keeping the dial on NBC. We started switching to Beavis 'n Butthead
when she wasn't on as the show got duller.
I'm wondering if the shipment of Acoustic Dreams for Japan (to
Kaoru) arrived safely and is in the hands of its owners now? About 2
months ago, I sent it registered-mail and I'm sort of curious to know.
(sucker cost me 50 bucks just to mail!!)
Well, thanks everyone for being so patient with me, I hope your
WDATU arrives soon and may the force be with you.
Mike Bahr, durnik@indirect.com
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Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 18:49:52 -0500
From: Timothy Lodge <axe@usa.nai.net>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: ANNOUNCING: DREAM THEATER DEMO CD SALE!
Message-ID: <199601222346.SAA19227@usa.nai.net>
Due to overwhelming online demand, I am bringing back the following CD's for
sale to the YTSEJAM and the Online Community. The next ordering period will
commence immediately (Jan.22, 1996), and end in about 6-8 weeks. I must give
credit and praise to Mike Bahr for the creation of the "update" system for
online music selling. Here goes:
JANUARY 22, 1996 UPDATE: MAJESTY/INSTRUMENTAL/INSTRUMENTAL 2/RISING POWER CD
SALE.
1. What? DREAM THEATER demo CD's for sale?
Yes, the following CD's are available from me for 1-1000 of you!
a. DREAM THEATER - as MAJESTY: The Official 1986 Demo / 1 CD
Tracks: Another Won, Your Majesty, A Vision, Two Far,
Vital Star, March of the Tyrant.
b. DREAM THEATER - instruMENTAL I : The 1987 Demo Recordings
Tracks: Afterlife, The Ones who help to set the sun,
Ytsejam, Cry for Freedom, The Killing Hand,
Ressurection of Ernie, Drum Solo, Guitar
Player Spotlight: i. indulge in reverie
ii. a. a Late summer's rain b. schizophrenia
c. DREAM THEATER - instruMENTAL II: Our Music, Your brain! *NEW*
Tracks: YYZ (DEMO OF RUSH COVER), METROPOLIS (STUDIO DEMO),
ANOTHER WON (STUDIO BERKLEE DEMO), THE FARANDOLE
(BERKLEE DEMO OF TALAS SONG), A CHANGE OF SEASONS
(STUDIO DEMO), STARS (UNR. DEMO) MISSION IMPOSSIBLE
(DEMO), LIGHT GUITAR PIECE, LONG ISLAND SOUND (1987
STUDIO DEMOS UNRELEASED), GUITAR PLAYER SPOTLIGHT II:
CONFESSIONS OF AN ARTIST, SOMEWHERE UNDER THE
RAINBOW.>
d. RISING POWER - Power to the People: featuring 17 yr old Mike Portnoy!
Tracks: Hello, Adrenalized, Teenage Trauma, This Time, Goddess
of Pleasure and pain, Staring at your face, fast &
furious Master of Illusion, Too Fast to Live, Edge of
Trouble, Gateway to Hell.
2. CD Prices
*****MAJESTY, INSTRUMENTAL I, AND INSTRUMENTAL II ARE ALL $23.99 EACH *****
RISING POWER IS ON SALE AT $12.99
POSTAGE INCLUDED IN PRICE!
3. How Do I get more info?
For Complete Info/Track listing on each CD, Visit my NEW Web Site at:
http://w3.nai.net/~axe
under DT INFO at my main menu!
4. ORDERING INFO
I can accept Money Order, Check, or cash (at your own risk if you have no
other method) I can also accept MASTERCARD OR VISA! using the FIRSTVIRTUAL
(tm) secured transaction system! For more info on obtaining an account
with FirstVirtual go to http://www.fv.com [it's really easy and takes 5 mins.]
To Order Please send email indicating order and payment method to
I will get back to you an ordering address and confirmation asap!
Thanks!!!!!
Tim
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Timothy M. Lodge homepage: http://w3.nai.net/~axe
Quinnipiac College School of Law, Class of 1998.
axe@nai.net the former lodge_tim@ccsu.ctstateu.edu
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Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 13:16:33 +0100 (MET)
From: v932407@si.hhs.nl
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: ACOS project UPDATE!!!
Message-ID: <9601231216.AA21750@burnier.si.hhs.nl>
LIMITED EDITION COMPACT DISCS
Information and Update, Current to 1/23/96
1. Introduction
Dear Ytsejammers, for those who don't know me (hmm... that's most of you),
my name is Marcel Berkhout and I am the second guy (you all know the first
one) on the Ytsejam list to make bootlegs. I'm from Holland, keep that in
mind if you find any typos :)
Like Mike Bahr I'm not out to scam all of you and make huge amounts of money.
I'm really into bootlegs and this is the perfect way for me to broaden (sp?)
my horizons (wow!)
As you can see I took the liberty of copy-ing Mike Bahr's update-style.
I think it's something you all are familiar with and easy to read.
2. What is .................. (still looking for a good name, hint!, hint!)
This was my 4th Dream Theater concert of the year and probably one of the
most memorable 'cause they played ACOS!!
It was recorded on the 8th of July this summer during an outdoors festival
called 'Bospop' (Please don't ask me why it's called that way). Dream Theater
didn't headline the festival, but judging from the amount of people wearing
DT t-shirts most of them came to see DT :)
A friend of mine recorded the show with his portable DAT-recorder and some
great mics, so the quality of the recording is great, especially for an
outdoor show. Aahh hell.... might as well tell you all the truth.... the only
negative thing I can think of is that there are some people (with no vocal
ability whatsoever) can be heard from time to time during the 'easier' and
'slower' songs (LSOAD and Another Day). I hope this doesn't bother to many
people.
Because DT didn't headline the festival they only played for 70 minutes.
The setlist was :
Intro
Under a Glass Moon
Lifting Shadows of a Dream
Voices
A Change of Seasons
Another Day
Pull me Under
[encore]
6:00
The booklet will contain actual pictures from the festival, all FULL color
of course! I have some cool ideas for this :)
3. Possible titles!
Here are some titles people sent me :
"The Inevitable Summer festival"
"The Inevitable Summer"
"LIVE will not always be this way"
"Seasons change"
"Carpe Diem - Seize the Day"
"Carpe diem"
"Seize the day"
"Dreams in the Open Air"
"HOLLAND SUMMER FESTIVAL -95"
"BOSPOP FESTIVAL -95"
"SEASONS OF CHANGES"
"THE SEASONS IN HOLLAND"
"ANOTHER DAY ANOTHER SEASONS"
"6 AM IN WEERT"
"DREAM SEASONS"
"SUMMER SEASONS"
"UNDER A FESTIVAL MOON"
"ON STAGE IN HOLLAND"
"Dreaming of a Changed Season"
"A Dream of Seasons"
"Theater of Changes"
"Mixed Seasonings"
"Dreaming of Dutch"
"Dreaming in Dutch"
"Windmill of dreams"
Let me know what you think!
4. What is the release schedule?
YES! I have reached the magic number of 100 copies! I'm still not sure about
a release date, but I think it will be around April/May or something like
that. I need that much time 'cause I have to start making plans first now. I
have to contact the person who took the photos at the festival, the person
who prints the booklets, etc. etc.
I have gotten a lot of replies from people asking me where to send the money.
When the time comes all the info you need will be in the UPDATE.
I'll post regular updates to the 'Jam with the progress.
5. How much will .......... (fill in name here) cost?
I'm not out to compete with Mike Bahr, so my prices will be exactly the same
as his. ($25 base cost) I'm not sure about the postage yet, but I think that
it won't differ much from Mike's prices.
6. The reservations
[The reservation list would have taken 1/4 of the available digest space
so it has been made available (as part of the original message) via email.
To retrieve it send:
get ytsejam berkhout.960123.txt
to ytsejam-request@arastar.com with a subject of "asdf"]
7. Future products
After this one, I still have two great shows from Utrecht in Holland. The
sound quality is even better (IMHO) than 'Dance of Eternity' both shows are
125 minutes. For that reason a double CD is required (duh!). I hope I can do
one of those before the summer (July).
8. Famous Last Words
To conclude my update I would like to thank everyone who reserved a copy. I
hope that I can manage to get the project rolling fast now, because there's a
lot of work to do for me.
If you have any questions about the project, feel free to e-mail me anytime.
Thanks,
Marcel Berkhout
v932407@si.hhs.nl
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Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 09:19:33 -0500
From: as129@detroit.freenet.org (Rahiel Elaine Housey)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Prog and Valentine's (Re: YTSEJAM digest 1234)
Message-ID: <199601231419.JAA01699@detroit.freenet.org>
Dear YtseJAmmers
I was so glad to find that I am not the only person on earth under 35 who
thinks "New Rock" or "Modern Rock" or whatever you want to call that crap is
awful. I am so glad we have Progressive rock and that there are so many ppl
who can appreciate bands like Dream Theater. Man, if I hear that song about
Breakfast at Tiffany's or any of those songs when I have a baseball bat in
hand, I would gladly smash the radio! Right on Dream Theater!
Rahiel (Ray)
(Still looking for ideas for Valentine's Day DT gifts for my sweetie :-)
Thanks to all who have made suggestions! )
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Date: Tue, 23 Jan 96 16:04:39 +0100
From: nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: donews!nga
Subject: Help...(plus minimal DT content)
Message-ID: <9601231504.AA00595@sundoc13.software-ag.de>
Hi all
I need some information from any Kyuss (RIP) fans that may be on the Jam (I
know there are a few). I am looking for information/tips/CD titles about the
following groups, who can be loosely assigned to the Kyuss 'desert scene':
Solar Feast
Unsound
Zig-Zag Wanderers
Thanks in advance for any help you may be able to offer.
DT content: if anybody in Europe, or preferably Germany, has good quality
audio tapes of any of the Xmas shows, please get in touch with me concerning
dubbing (financial benefits guaranteed).
stay safe and happy listening
Neil Gallop (nga@software-ag.de)
Currently playing: Hawkwind - A Space Ritual
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Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 12:12:46 -0500
From: WildKoba@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: new acquisitions
Message-ID: <960123121245_124817245@mail06.mail.aol.com>
first off, i'd like to thank ken for backing me up on the kaoru thing. see
bafu, you ARE a fucking idiot ;-P
seriously......new tori today. once i am more awake, i'm off to tower. don't
forget, you thought industry fans, new album in 7 days.
picked up some interesting albums yesterday:
1) gentle giant- octopus; just put that on. good so far. i hear echolyon's
influence!! short for a prog rock album (8 songs, about 34 minutes), but it's
the organs blazing and all. not bad.
2) genesis- nursery cryme- i love the cover; weird shit
3) pfunk live- everyone's GOTTA have some funk in them once in a while
4) samuel barber compositions- great stuff
well, that's it, once again
wanting to fuck you all like animals,
david, the magical kobayashi
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Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 12:13:12 -0500
From: WildKoba@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: re: the wfs transcription
Message-ID: <960123121307_124817556@mail06.mail.aol.com>
just wanted to post a short progress report.
i have now received about 6 checks. any future orders i recommend you send me
a self-addressed manila envelope, especially if this picks up.
they are (in the order received, as of 1200 hours 1/24):
001- debbie seeger
002- robert castilone
003- michael pomerleau
004- scott duren
005- andrew miller
006- yitzik
the surprise- thus far, it looks like it may actually work, and that would
make this whole project very worthwhile!!! once i get a response about it, i
will quickly send the music and a form of the surprise (i feel like plato) to
all those.
thanks for waiting. continue
david, the magical kobayashi
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