YTSEJAM Digest 1660
Today's Topics:
1) YtseCon III
by Aladdin <jc309@columbia.edu>
2) More replies (what else is new?)
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
3) My brain is empty...don't know why.
by Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
4) DMB. Go see it, Graham. :-)
by Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
5) NYC Prog night
by Andrew Keegan <akeegan@liii.com>
6) YTSEJAM digest 1659
by UMJG72D@prodigy.com (MS ANNA M STIGLIC)
7) James LaBrie
by Steven Thum <sthum@sunflowr.usd.edu>
8) Sorry if I missed your email..
by market@clubmet.metrobbs.com
9) Q104.3 bites the dust!!!!!
by "Frank Benenati" <mojonet@pb.net>
10) Attn. Jack Theytgi(or however you spell it) :)
by Rob Barker <ibanez@wicked.stigmata.org>
11) Fwd: Sammy Speaks Out... ABC NEWS (fwd)
by skooc@ix.netcom.com (Scott Cook)
12) Fwd:Valerie B's version
by skooc@ix.netcom.com (Scott Cook)
13) Marillion and other recommendations?
by Jennifer <jenibear@gvn.net>
14) Heavy Jam (not a compote)
by rterry@inforamp.net (Rick Terry)
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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 19:35:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: Aladdin <jc309@columbia.edu>
To: The BafuJam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: YtseCon III
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.94L.960701192418.25322A-100000@bonjour.cc.columbia.edu>
Dear Jammers,
Hi there! I just go off the phone with my travel agent, and basically we
have a deadline now for reserving hotel rooms! Here's all the info:
The Dream Theater YtseCon III will be on Saturday, October 12th at the La
Guardia Marriot. We have already spoken to DT management and Dream
Theater already know about the convention, and the chances that they will
be there are EXTREMELY high! Meaning, members of Dream Theater already
told me that they should be there.
The entrance fee for the YtseCon III will be $20 per person. This will
cover the cost of the conference room and various expenses (but mostly the
conference room since the place is a bit classy =) ). If you plan on
going, then contact Chris Merlo at cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu, or you can also
contact me at jc309@columbia.edu, but Chris is doing the head-count for
the YtseCon III.
If you plan on staying at the hotel, I need to know from you immediately!
I am collecting all of the money since I signed a contract with the hotel
already for a 75 room block. The cost will be $100 per room per night, so
I'm sure that you guys would want to crash together and split the cost.
But, if you plan on going, I need to find out from you ASAP! The deadline
for the money I have to send in is August 2nd, so e-mail me at
jc309@columbia.edu to let me know if you need a room.
If you need airfare for the Ytsecon, then you can contact Rich Worldwide
travel at 1-800-431-1130, and tell them that you are going to the Dream
Theater convention.
Well, that's basically it. Again, we need to get the money in soon for
the hotel, so please send in the money soon! Thanks, you guys rock!
Yours,
Jeff =)
<*> Jeff Chew <*> http://www.columbia.edu/~jc309/ <*>
<*> jc309@columbia.edu <*> jeffc@dreamt.org <*> jchew@rsabbs.com <*>
<*> (516) 674-4828 <*> Work (212) 442-0041 <*> Beeper (917) 712-4828 <*>
"Aladdin! You just won the heart of the princess! What are
you gonna do next?" --- Genie, Disney's Aladdin
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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 20:07:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: More replies (what else is new?)
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9607011916.A17402-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
> From: borlangw <borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk>
> Subject: Dave Matthews Band, Space Dye Vest, Converting DT Fans
>
> Another thing . . . converting people to like DT. Well, I've been working
> on my sister for the last 3 years, and so far she's admitted that she likes
> Another Day. She falls for soppy stuff like that :-) She's also admitted that
> Surrounded "could be worse".
>
> Do you think I should keep trying? :-)
No! Find yourself a girl that you're not related to! (But at least
you're after humans these days. :)
----> From: "MojoMan" <mojonet@pb.net> > Subject: Labrie out of Dream Theater.... > > I had a VERY strange dream last night......
Does this surprise any of us? :)
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> From: "John R. Kotzian" <koggie@cyberspace.org> > Subject: More responses... > > > dt news- james labrie is officially out of dt! devon townshend is the new > > singer. > > -No, the position will be shared by Barney Greenway and Jello Biafra.
Whoa! That would be indescribably weird. I can't even imagine the two of them together, let alone in Dream Theater.
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> From: d94-mry@nada.kth.se > Subject: holidayshowdub/myungvid > > 1) What is Critical Mass and why haven't I ordered it?
It's cool, and because you're a procrastinator.
It's Mikey's new Rush boot from the CP tour (yum) - 2 cd's full of the coolest stuff ever. You're still a procrastinator. :)
> Well, when you post once a month you can afford to be lengthy. And BTW, I > like OASIS too. I think they're fab.
So do they. That's the problem. I don't mean to go off on a rant here, but...
Why do so many of today's bands sound/look/act/write like 70s and 80s bands did? I mean, come on! It's been done! That's probably what I like most about DT - it's new. It ain't been done before. The nineties bring new questions, new solutions to be found. I can't erase the image from my mind of all the fucking UVM wannabe-hippies wearing flower print dresses and big nasty plaid shirts and Birkenstocks and bell bottoms. Get something that's yours, for God's sake!!!
Sorry, I'm done now.
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> From: jforte@acl.nyit.edu (Chambers) > Subject: 104.3 > > Unfortuantely, 104.3 has changed formats and is now a classic rock > station(I dont particularly care for Calssic rock that much), did any of the > New York Jammers hear about this, it shocked me. They were one of the only > stations that played a decent amount of Rush, other than that they > pretty much sucked.
Jesus! When did *this* happen? I was just listening to the Q last week! Shit, first all the stations go grunge, now WNEW and the Q have *both* gone classic? WTF?
NY radio sucks. End of story. (I must have had a bad day or something. I'm yelling at everyone today. This fucking bitch cut off the car I was riding in today, and I leaned out the window and swore at her for about two minutes straight. She looked scared as shit! Fucking Vermonters. Sorry, I'm done again.)
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> From: Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com> > Subject: The Triumph of the Nerds.... > > Drive-By Comments from Adam:
/me ducks
> Five Gratuitous CD's: > 1. Metallica -- Load (Yes...I DO like this album) > 2. Dar Williams -- Mortal City > 3. Yes -- The Yes Album > 4. Lost Souls -- Doin' The Modern Mojo
Whoa! Hey, Frank, does Alycia know?
------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ Secretary cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu "@'/ ,. \`@" UVM Comp Sci Student Assn d-man@dreamt.org /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/ He's a digital man" - Peart
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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 17:28:36 -0700 From: Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: My brain is empty...don't know why. Message-ID: <199607020028.RAA29081@maple.enet.net>
Just got back from around. Picked up 311's "311". These guys are pretty damned cool. If I had to describe them, I'd say they were a cross between TRHCP and RatM. They groooooooooove alot. I like 'em.
> >Ben - thanks for an intelligent reply, and I quite like Oasis too.
No problem. :-) You can be my woooonderwaaaaaaaall.
>How could someone who isn't employed be > able to go out and buy CDs from all these bands that we love?
I do. I just do a buttload of chores all the time, and my parents pay me for it.
My ankle is peeling.
>........that i had my first piano lesson. funny how time flies, huh?
Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..CHOMP! <swallow>
Time's fun when you're having flies.
>Bottom line: If you get a dub of a commercial cd and you like it, be >ccol about it and get the CD. I don't mean bands like Rush or Kiss or >Van whoever they are this week. But bands like Superior, Shadow Gallery >and Magellan who aren't muti-millionaires and could use the cash. >
Better yet, get a dub with only a few songs, so it's enough to convince you to buy the CD, and you'll still have some unheard music to listen to.
>Well, I didn't bring this thread up originally, but I think I can give you a >fairly obvious example. Put on "Xanadu" and then follow it up with "Awake >Heavy Jam" (I think that's the one) from _Subconscious_. If you don't see any >musical similarities, might I suggest Q-tips. >
Okay. I don't feel like getting that stuff out right now, but I'll listen to it later and get back to you.
Latah, d00dz.
"Ytse bird! Ytse plane! Yts.." And I listen openly.... Ben Laussade
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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 17:49:15 -0700 From: Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DMB. Go see it, Graham. :-) Message-ID: <199607020049.RAA29790@maple.enet.net>
>But then again, >I know what Ben thinks about Paradise Lost and the new Metallica, so I'm >having second thoughts :-) >
Paradise Lost is wannabe Black Album 'Tallica. Go see DMB, though. You'll be glad you did.
>The thing is, though, I have absolutely no idea what they sound like. Could >someone give me an idea of what I should expect to hear?
Mostly acoustic guitar, funky jazzy stuff. Not heavy. They have a sax player and a violinist. They don't sound anything like DT. Dave is a great guitarist...not a soloist kind of guitarist, though. Amazing funk drummer. They're just coool. And I've heard they improvise a lot live.
>Another thing . . . what does a Space Dye Vest actually look like? I'd be >really grateful if someone could mail me a jpeg, or something :-) Or, even >better, send me a real one! >
It's a rhetorical garment (?!). Space is a vacuum, and you can't dye space...so, it's just a not-possible-but-still-cool thing like that. <grin>
>So when exactly do you leave the realm of the 14 >year olds and join the 15 year olds?
Hmmm....is it that big a difference? Ask E-Man. He knows everything about me. :-)
>-No, the position will be shared by Barney Greenway and Jello Biafra.
No, that wasn't it. Kirk Hammett quit Metallica, and decided that he would start to be gay just to be different, and he bought three more "wah" effects for his guitar, but he got his hands cut off in a fight with Sammy Hagar (he was upset about the whole Dave Roth thing), so now he chopped up James LaBrie and stuffed him in Neil Peart's (wasn't he gay too?) refrigerator, and now he's singing for DT, only he raps.
>I find LSoaD very reminiscent of U2. >
Good call! James does sound a bit like Bono in the first chorus.
>The ACOS production is top notch, sounds a little > rougher and like it was done faster and with less budget. It sounds > very fresh.
ACoS gives me the feeling that it was recorded in a very small, hot, stuffy place.
>If someone mistook my breakfast for a urinal, >I'd be somewhat upset. If that someone was myself, I'd be VERY upset. ;)
Yeah, me too. I hate when I have to kick my ass.
Ta ta. And, the reason I said Simon sounds like Mike is that they both use an excess of polyrhythms. Simon, IMO (damn. I used the hated acronym), is a cross between Neil and Mike, only better.
"Ytse bird! Ytse plane! Yts.." And I listen openly.... Ben Laussade
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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:42:28 -0400 From: Andrew Keegan <akeegan@liii.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: NYC Prog night Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19960701214409.458fc5be@oak.liii.com>
Can someone (Fates?) tell me whether Braindance is playing Prog night in NYC Wednesday. I just received a flyer that said Curious Works was playing. I much rather see Braindance. Either way I'll be there there :)
Andy
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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:25:09, -0500 From: UMJG72D@prodigy.com (MS ANNA M STIGLIC) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: YTSEJAM digest 1659 Message-ID: <199607020125.VAA28774@mime4.prodigy.com>
>Unfortuantely, 104.3 has changed formats and is now a classic rock >station(I dont particularly care for Calssic rock that much), did any of the >New York Jammers hear about this, it shocked me. They were one of the only >stations that played a decent amount of Rush, other than that they pretty much >sucked.
yeah! i went to sleep listening to Pantera and woke up with ancient Led Zep. (no offense intended) that really pisses me off. they were the only decent station that i listened to. now i have it locked to K Rock. (92.3) but they didn't suck. they were just... incredibly mainstream. :)
____ "...the weasel squeaks faster than a seven day week..." - Tori Amos, Marianne
"...every road leads back to my door, every road i will follow, every road leads back to my door, got all your lines crossed..." - Tori Amos, In The Springtime of His Voodoo
Anna:-)
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Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 21:34:10 -0700 From: Steven Thum <sthum@sunflowr.usd.edu> To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: James LaBrie Message-ID: <31D8A6C2.7455@sunflowr.usd.edu>
Ok, I have had enough of the people here (at least some) who have been dumping on James LaBrie, and even starting rumors that he is out of the band.
Personally, I think LaBrie is the perfect vocalist for DT, and I don't think they would be nowhere near as good as they are without him. (yes, I own "When Dream And Day Unite") LaBrie is the best vocalist to come onto the scene in quite some time.
I listened to "Antiquites," and some of the demos from other singers just did not sound right. DT needs James LaBrie. Period.
DT without him would be like Journey without Steve Perry and Foreigner without Lou Gramm. It just would not be the same.
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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:51:34 -0500 From: market@clubmet.metrobbs.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Sorry if I missed your email.. Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.7.1.-11.51.34.974.10167@clubmet.metrobbs.com>
Hey all,
Just wanted you to know that if I do not get back to you or miss via email about the new DT stickers please write again. And yes to answer your question, there is a limited number of stickers in print.
I also have a few of the DT window stickers from last time.
You can soon see a picture, and get all the info in the merchandise section of:
http://WWW.DREAMT.ORG (thx skadz!)
Thx again all.
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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 22:57:35 -0400 From: "Frank Benenati" <mojonet@pb.net> To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com>, "cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu" <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>, Cc: "acregan@amherst.edu" <acregan@amherst.edu> Subject: Q104.3 bites the dust!!!!! Message-ID: <199607020259.TAA26976@mindcrime.ax.com>
Hello fellow Jammers, and others!!
Just to let you know....
NYC based WAXQ...or Q104.3 has gone classic rock!!!!!
Apparently, the presure of the New York market was too great for WAXQ and they chose to play a more open market....(presently, the classic rock market is only being address by WNEW(102.7)...and they seem to be doing a really bad job)
Hopefully, this will be the start of a new thing in the NY radio market. NY listeners can testify to the very conservative radio market lately. I personally have been screaming for a breath of fresh air. Maybe WDRE's (92.7) change back to the format of WLIR made the administration of WAXQ look at their bland contribution to NY radio...and forced them to change a little.
Tune in.....Q 104.3 has become a good station again!
M O J O
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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 23:41:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Rob Barker <ibanez@wicked.stigmata.org> To: ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Attn. Jack Theytgi(or however you spell it) :) Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.91.960701233730.15155C-100000@wicked.stigmata.org>
Sorry to waste jam bandwidth to post this but I did not have Jack's E-mail address. So I appologize to my fellow jammers.:) Jack, did you ever get the pictures from the Akron clinic developed yet? Mail me back and let me know what the deal with those is. I would appreciate it.
Robert Barker(Ibanez)
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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 20:47:11 -0700 From: skooc@ix.netcom.com (Scott Cook) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Fwd: Sammy Speaks Out... ABC NEWS (fwd) Message-ID: <199607020347.UAA28149@dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com>
Hey doodz and doodettes!
This is from the VH list about the breakup with Sammy. At least it's Sammy's side. As Extreme says there's III sides to every story.
Grinder
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 10:21:18 -0500 (EST) From: JAMES <JSPIKER@loyola.edu> To: vanhalen@LISTS.FDT.NET Subject: Sammy Speaks Out... ABC NEWS
I finally heard something directly from one of the boys on ABC News.
Sammy says he didn't leave the band... VH kicked him out! He considered leaving back in *January*, but he decided he could never do that. It was back in January that management "tricked" him into recording a song for the GH album. Sammy said the only reason to do a GH is for the money - and that he's against this. He hoped the GH thing would blow over..
Upon hearing DLR is back with the band, he called the whole situation a "disaster." He mentioned hearing VH will tour with DLR in the Fall.
And finally, Sammy said he plans on touring with a new band.
So, it seems like all of those rumors about leaving due to his new family were bullshit.
-James jspiker@loyola.edu
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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 20:50:43 -0700 From: skooc@ix.netcom.com (Scott Cook) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Fwd:Valerie B's version Message-ID: <199607020350.UAA22597@dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com>
Here's what Valerie Bertinelli says about the breakup.
Grinder
---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 30 Jun 96 15:50:35 -0700 From: vavh <vavh@earthlink.net> To: vanhalen@lists.fdt.net Subject: Re: this whole sammy/dave thing
>>>here is what happened (hope you are sitting because the whole thing is pretty stupid) in a nutshell sammy got pissed because ed wants a greatest hits album and sammy thinks they are too good for that so he leaves for the day. the next day he calls ed to apoligize and he finds out that right after he left ed called dave and asked if he wanted to work on the project... after sammy heard that sammy quit..
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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:25:34 -0700 From: Jennifer <jenibear@gvn.net> To: "Ytsejam Mailing List" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Marillion and other recommendations? Message-ID: <199607020425.VAA27906@mindcrime.ax.com>
The following appeared in Ytsejam #1656:
>I just bought Holidays in Eden and thought it was an OK CD. I'd like >to know what other ones would be good to pick up by Marillion.
Personally, as far as Steve Hogarth era Marillion, my favorite is "Brave." It's sort of a moody concept album. Some of the Fish era Marillion stuff is harder to find, but "Script for a Court Jester's Tear" and "Misplaced Childhood" are two excellent titles.
>And other than Echolyn (still haven't found Ivanhoe) what other good >discs would someone recommend.
Magellan is sort of in the same vein (*very* Yes sounding). As far as prog metal goes, stuff like Shadow Gallery and Fates Warning.
Jen
On the move...
Note *new* address: jenibear@gvn.net
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Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 04:28:14 GMT From: rterry@inforamp.net (Rick Terry) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Heavy Jam (not a compote) Message-ID: <31d8a1fd.291267@mail.inforamp.net>
>Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 15:50:53 -0400 >From: brian.kirk@USVGI.mail.abb.com
>fairly obvious example. Put on "Xanadu" and then follow it up with "Awake >Heavy Jam" (I think that's the one) from _Subconscious_. If you don't see any >musical similarities, might I suggest Q-tips.
Man! I'm glad I'm not the only one to think this. I couldn't believe it when I heard that for the first time. My thoughts were, "SHIT!! They're going to cover Xanadu! This is going to be VERY interesting" Alas, it was not to be. And if somebody doesn't kick Rush' management in the ass, none of us will ever find out what they sound like covering Rush either. :(
Cheers,
Rick Toronto
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