YTSEJAM Digest 1668
Today's Topics:
1) CDs you've bought but never heard...
by Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
2) RE: Rock on the Radio?
by Marcio Danucalov <hangar18@originet.com.br>
3) RE: LiT
by Marcio Danucalov <hangar18@originet.com.br>
4) IMHO, this is not a flame
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
5) Re: New Kiss
by sjensen@research.westlaw.com
6) Ha!
by Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
7) Radio
by swanson@henge.com (Sheila Swanson)
8) Re: Producers
by Adam <alpine@negia.net>
9) Bands that allow taping
by skooc@ix.netcom.com (Scott Cook)
10) Uncles, The Dark Lord and Growling
by rterry@inforamp.net (Rick Terry - TRC - MCSS)
11) CD updates
by Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com>
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1667
by "Greg \"Big Brother\" Lee" <greg@aix.can.ibm.com>
13) 1993 England show...
by Adam <alpine@negia.net>
14) Re: Producers
by "J. Christian Jens" <jjens@cais.com>
15) Re: Bach to bassics!
by Jon Byrne <rael@access.mountain.net>
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Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 10:55:03 -0400 (EDT)
From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: CDs you've bought but never heard...
Message-ID: <199607041455.KAA27214@ruby.cs.brandeis.edu>
Here are some of the few:
Dream Theater: Images & Words
I had never really heard much of I&W before I bought it...
a few friends mentioned it was good, so I went out and well...
the rest is sorta history
Fates Warning: Parallels
Again, I had heard mention of them, but never really heard any
of it before buying. Have YTsejam to thank for listening to
FW
Dixie Dregs: Full Circle
Took this as a recommendation from Ytsejam, plus a song that
someone from Ytsejam (I forget who it even was, it was a while
ago) out one song onto as mix tape he sent me as part of a
trade
I'm also wondering, how many of you would put DT onto this list, as I
have?
--
+----------------------------+---------------+---------------------+
| We can learn from the past | Dream Theater | Michael Burstin |
| But those days are gone +---------------+ Brandeis University |
| We can hope for the Future | A Change Of +---------------------+
| But there may not be one | Seasons | LET'S GO PENS |
+----------------------------+---------------+---------------------+
For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu
http://www.cs.brandeis.edu/~mikeb/home.html
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Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 11:40:53 -0300
From: Marcio Danucalov <hangar18@originet.com.br>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: RE: Rock on the Radio?
Message-ID: <01BB699F.FE1DC120@porta175.originet.com.br>
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It seems like these days that there aren't anymore heavy rock on =
the radio.
Everybody that was once cool ( Q 104.3 .... WRCN ) has changed their =
formats
for the worst. The only cool station still around is 92.3 They =
better not
change or there will be no cool stations to listen to anymore. Also =
for
those who haven't seen ID4, Go see it ASAP. It is awesome.
At least you can choice another station... Here in Sao Paulo - Brazil, =
we have ONE "rock" radio that don't stop to play BonJovi:( all the day. =
To tell the truth there's a realy cool rock station (that plays Sabbath, =
Deep Purple, Rush and DT) but it's signal is so weak that 60% of the =
sound is static...
Brazil stuff... :(((
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Marcio
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Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 12:00:36 -0300
From: Marcio Danucalov <hangar18@originet.com.br>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: RE: LiT
Message-ID: <01BB69A0.F54A6D40@porta175.originet.com.br>
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Hi,
I'm not sure if anybody else has raised this yet:
In the LiT video, the scarf/banner with the Japanese writing that
Kevin Moore has hanging down from the back of the keyboard appears
to be upside-down.
Can any Japanese readers confirm this?
When I saw it for the first time I thought the same. But a Japanese friend of mine said that "things" are just doodles...
[]s
Marcio
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Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 14:13:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: IMHO, this is not a flame
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9607041415.D9537-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
> From: Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
> Subject: EoJ's
>
> >And then he gets an EOJ to top it off! That settles it - EOJs are
> >officially NOT cool anymore. (I knew it was just a phase.)
>
> Actually, they are. I remember how the EoJ thing started...Bafu got one a
> long time ago, and somebody said something like "The post has so much more
> effect when it has 'End of Ytsejam #blah' after it." Which is true, I guess.
You just say that 'cause you were tied for first last month. :)
> Urinating all over somebody's white silk couch while they are sitting on it
> is NOT cool.
I sure hope he's not speaking from experience.
> And I quote people freely...
At least he doesn't charge! :)
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> From: WildKoba@aol.com
> Subject: stuff i gotta know
>
> a) whoever mentioned vernon reid opening for crimson, i need more info. i was
> under the impression that crimson was doing the h.o.r.d.e. tour, and
> according to this web place called "pollstar"
> (http://www.pollstar.com/search.htm), it pretty much mentions them on dates
> coinciding with that travelling show. if crimson is doing their own thing, i
> would like more info. thanks a lot.
Syrinx told me last night that Crimson is doing some dates apart from
horde, including two in New England. If I remember correctly, he
mentioned a web page, but it's not coming to mind. Mike, care to clarify?
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> From: Mithrandir <mithrandir@pb.net>
> Subject: VH manager?
>
> Just a question for those who might know the answer. Is the Ray Daniels
> who manages VH the same Ray Daniels from RUSH's S.R.O management? That could
> be an intriguing combination.
The very one. (Actually, it's Danniels with two N's, but who's
counting? Oh, yeah, Dave is.) I'm actually surprised you didn't know
that. Were you and I at the same show at Nassau Coliseum on the Balance
tour? I remember complaining a lot that all of VH's graphics and screen
thingies looked *a lot* like what Rush has been using. Remember the egg
balanced on the bass? Looked a lot like the nut and bolt, for instance.
Also, and here's why I thought you'd remember, Alex VH, imho, had stopped
ripping off Bonham and had started ripping off Peart.
The more I think about it, the more I can see Sammy being less than
pleased with SRO.
> I just became an uncle for the tenth time. A little girl 7lbs 7oz for
> those who care, my sister and baby are doing quite well, thank you.
Congrats, John! Pass my best along to your sister.
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> From: quism@VNET.IBM.COM
> Subject: Gettin' a background
>
> Greetings from sunny SpainY
>
> I would like to find a nice-great-fantastic-terrific picture with DT's logo
> (not the name) to put it as my Windows background.
> I'm afraid I have no time to wander, search (& destroy) and find it through
> the web (thanks to that nice-fuckin' thing called 'work', you know).
> Could anyone help me?
I have this great background for windows. It has the name (I know, I
know, but listen anyway) and a M logo beneath it, in this silvery shadowy
stuff on a black background. It looks really cool, and grabs your
attention immediately. I think I got it as part of Gabbo's mIRC
download. It's very elegant, very eye-catching.
----
> From: Beeblebrox <0384577@ptfe22.hro.nl>
> Subject: Stuff from Napalm Death
>
> \|/ ____ \|/
> "@' / \ '@"
> /_| \__/ |_\
> ------------------------ \__U_/ -------------------------
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ Secretary
cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu "@'/ ,. \`@" UVM Comp Sci Student Assn
d-man@dreamt.org /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed
http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/ He's a digital man" - Peart
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Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 13:17:18 -0500
From: sjensen@research.westlaw.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: New Kiss
Message-ID: <9607041817.AA06607@research.westlaw.com>
>Has anyone Heard the New Unreleased Kiss thats been floating around the
>Internet? It's pretty damn heavy...
It's pretty damn GOOD!
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Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 11:51:19 -0700
From: Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Ha!
Message-ID: <199607041851.LAA06218@maple.enet.net>
>Someone wanted to know what would happen if the Battle Star Galactica joined
>the fight?
Scroodat! How bout the ID4 Mothership, all smaller ships and starfighters
included.
Wow. I feel special, cuz Andy and Dave are fighting over my .sig. ;-) Myyyy
heeeeerro. <grin><slobber>
>( ) , : - etc.?
>
>I've been watching this going on for quite a while, however, there doesn't
>seem to be a general rule for these codes.
Kiss my ( | ) <grin>
And I quote people freely...
Ben Laussade
laussade@enet.net -or- ytse-ben@dreamt.org
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/7874/
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Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 13:23:26 -0600
From: swanson@henge.com (Sheila Swanson)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Radio
Message-ID: <199607041923.NAA09007@henge.com>
Sir Reality,
Sorry, I got behind on the jams again. What I remember happening was either
KBPI or the Fox bought out KAZY which I listened to all the time, and while
they were changing staff all they played was Alice's Restauraunt. I didn't
catch it, but my dad did. He's from the 60's, he liked it. Now there is
nothing good on the radio. Was it anyone else's happiest day when 92.x
died? At least thet station playes halfway good classic rock now. It's
better than alternative.
And about Denver? Yeah.....Mountains rule. (Rocky Mountain High is caused
by lack of oxygen) Yeah.....Altitude rules.
I'd like to use this bandwidth to thank all the jammers For their concern
about my dad. He's in a normal room now and we expect him home in a couple
of weeks. Thanks again for all the support.
Later,
Cory
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Date: Thu, 04 Jul 1996 15:47:59 -0400
From: Adam <alpine@negia.net>
To: Evan Thomson <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Producers
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19960704194759.006883f4@negia.net>
>With all the dilemma of DT finding a new producer, I was just wondering
>what was wrong with the Awake producers? I thought the guys were pretty
>happy with the production of Awake. I thought it sounded a _heap_ better
>than I&W. Did I miss why they aren't working with them, or am I just an
>ignorant moron???
I'd disagree that Awake sounded better than I&W, especially in the drums.
On I&W the kick was very tight and distinct, even on fast double bass
sections. Awake's sound is muddy and sounds like I'm playing it through a
cheap sub in a badly built box. TTT has a great double bass that's taught
and with impact. Most of Awake came out boomy on the same high end system.
I also like the snare tuning on I&W, but we've been all through that thread
with ACOS.. :)
Adam Pye
- alpine@negia.net
- http://www.negia.net/~alpine
- IZZC #1426
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Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 12:50:14 -0700
From: skooc@ix.netcom.com (Scott Cook)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Bands that allow taping
Message-ID: <199607041950.MAA27805@dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com>
Hey all!
If anyone wants a list of bands that allow audio, video or both taping
at their shows, please email me and I'll send it out to you. It's about
as long as one jam.
Grinder
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Date: Thu, 04 Jul 1996 20:00:20 GMT
From: rterry@inforamp.net (Rick Terry - TRC - MCSS)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Uncles, The Dark Lord and Growling
Message-ID: <31dc1e8f.277590@mail.inforamp.net>
Hiya Jammers!
>Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 23:36:44 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Mithrandir <mithrandir@pb.net>
> I just became an uncle for the tenth time. A little girl 7lbs 7oz for
>those who care, my sister and baby are doing quite well, thank you.
I became an uncle for the first time at 1210 EST Thursday
morning. My brother and his wife are, understandably, exhausted and
the baby is fine. Of course, he's the only one whose slept in the last
40 hours or so. :)
>Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 02:40:18 -0400
>From: ai292@freenet.carleton.ca (Gordon McFee)
>> Maybe I'll bring some Molson XXX and we'll see who can still
>>walk by the end of the CON. ;)
>
> Sounds good, although you may have trouble getting it over the
>border (?).. I think Americans prefer if you leave that strong stuff North..
It's to prevent us from forcing it upon their population and
making them all subservient to the Great Dark Lord... Don Cherry! ;)
>Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 02:59:31 -0400 (EDT)
>From: Galactic Cowboy <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
>3) Ivanhoe "symbols of time"
>
>I heard all the great reviews by this band so I decided to get it. I
>don't like them as much as I should. There are some really good songs on
>this CD, but others I can't really get into.
That's how I feel about it too. I think they're still
searching for a sound that is uniquely their own. BTW, what the hell
is that low growling voice all about in the title track.
Can you imagine James singing
"You won't find it here, so D I E Another Day"
See ya!
Cheers,
Rick
Toronto
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Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 13:05:57 -0700 (MST)
From: Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: CD updates
Message-ID: <199607042005.NAA01994@bud.indirect.com>
I think Jeff might be a bit too busy to update lifting shadows, but I
_do_ have a 7/2/96 update, so anyone can e-mail me to get it. Oh yeah,
Kevin Laferriere, can you e-mail me real quick? I'll give you the update,
since you've always been cool about displaying it on your page.
- voluntas vincit omnia - Mike Bahr - durnik@indirect.com -
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Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 16:14:37 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Greg \"Big Brother\" Lee" <greg@aix.can.ibm.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1667
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.960704161220.135682A-100000@hal.toraix.can.ibm.com>
On Thu, 4 Jul 1996 ytsejam@ax.com wrote: (well Rick, actually...)
> Cheers,
>
> Rick
> Toronto
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Could this be the first Canadian EoJ? Yikes...Let's all have a Molson XXX
to celebrate!
Greg
Toronto
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Date: Thu, 04 Jul 1996 16:17:00 -0400
From: Adam <alpine@negia.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: 1993 England show...
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19960704201700.00678880@negia.net>
Just glancing through the DT FAQ and saw this quote:
"First of all, it's the first lyric work Mike Portnoy did. (of course, it
is not the only vocal work Mike ever did... Mike had the dubious privilege of
singing the end of "Surrounded" after James walked off the stage at one of the
1993 England shows)"
Does anyone know if a tape of this show is available? If so I'd be happy to
trade with anyone who has it. Let me know... Thanks...
Adam Pye
- alpine@negia.net
- http://www.negia.net/~alpine
- IZZC #1426
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Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 17:11:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: "J. Christian Jens" <jjens@cais.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Producers
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.93.960704170727.2726B-100000@cais.cais.com>
On Thu, 4 Jul 1996, Adam wrote:
> I'd disagree that Awake sounded better than I&W, especially in the drums.
wow...someone who actually *likes* the drummer triggers.
j o h n s a v e u r @ c a i s . c o m
e
n
s h t t p : / / w w w . s i t e . g m u . e d u / ~ j j e n s /
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Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 18:17:43 -0400
From: Jon Byrne <rael@access.mountain.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Bach to bassics!
Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19960705181803.10cf7514@access.mountain.net>
At 05:22 PM 7/2/96 -0700, Seth Hatlelid wrote:
>It is not uncommon for modern rock songs to borrow
>the melodies of other songs to create a new song. For example, Sting uses
>Prokofiev's Lieutenant Kij=E9 Suite as the melody of a section of "Russians.=
>"
>Savatage used Beethoven's pieces in "Dead Winter Dead". Mozart's students
>reworked Mozart's pieces (Requiem). Dream Theater using the Wheel of
>=46ortune theme.
Allright! How often do you see Prokofiev, Beethoven, Mozart, and "Wheel of
Fortune" in the same discussion! :)
> Excuse me, but Beethoven was not an average "joe blow". His
>playing impressed Bach (who was already held in high favor by the
>courtisians) so much that Bach wanted to take on Beethoven as an aprentice.
Hey, come on, Seth, are you saying that not everyone can write a moving,
timeless symphony (#9, "Choral") while they're deaf? :)
Couldn't resist
Jonathan Byrne
rael@access.mountain.net
http://access.mountain.net/~rael/jdbhome2.htm
West Virginia University College of Law
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"Any major dude with half a heart
Surely would tell you my friend,
Any minor world that breaks apart
Falls together again."
-"Any Major Dude", Steely Dan
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