YTSEJAM digest 1667

From: ytsejam@ax.com
Date: Thu Jul 04 1996 - 10:25:02 EDT

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 1667

    Today's Topics:

      1) EoJ's
     by Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
      2) stuff i gotta know
     by WildKoba@aol.com
      3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1666
     by Majesty <majesty@li.net>
      4) Web Page Update
     by Mark Smeets <msmeets@ibm.net>
      5) enough with the vh shit already!
     by WildKoba@aol.com
      6) VH manager?
     by Mithrandir <mithrandir@pb.net>
      7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1665
     by ai292@freenet.carleton.ca (Gordon McFee)
      8) CDs you've bought but never heard...
     by Galactic Cowboy <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
      9) pootatoes
     by akyuz@ltp.dmx.epfl.ch
     10) electro-shit
     by akyuz@ltp.dmx.epfl.ch
     11)
     by akyuz@ltp.dmx.epfl.ch
     12) Gettin' a background
     by quism@VNET.IBM.COM
     13) codes
     by akyuz@ltp.dmx.epfl.ch
     14) Mike Bahr updates on WWW
     by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
     15) misc and related :-)
     by <raitz@guvatrak.ee> "Raivo Hool"
     16) Stuff from Napalm Death
     by Beeblebrox <0384577@ptfe22.hro.nl>
     17) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1666
     by rterry@inforamp.net (Rick Terry)

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    Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 22:48:04 -0700
    From: Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: EoJ's
    Message-ID: <199607040548.WAA23665@maple.enet.net>

    >And then he gets an EOJ to top it off! That settles it - EOJs are
    >officially NOT cool anymore. (I knew it was just a phase.)

    Actually, they are. I remember how the EoJ thing started...Bafu got one a
    long time ago, and somebody said something like "The post has so much more
    effect when it has 'End of Ytsejam #blah' after it." Which is true, I guess.

    ID4 was cool.
    Jewel is cool.
    Not flaming people is cool.
    Dream Theater is cool.
    Dream Theater content is cool.
    Dream Theater food puns are cool.
    Not pooting is cool.
    Urinating all over somebody's white silk couch while they are sitting on it
    is NOT cool.

    Bye. :-)
    And I quote people freely...
    Ben Laussade

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    Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 02:00:29 -0400
    From: WildKoba@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: stuff i gotta know
    Message-ID: <960704020028_230835924@emout18.mail.aol.com>

    just got home from that weird new movie about aliens. i liked it. it was very
    disturbing, but i really liked that alien flick.

    but right now, i don't care. i need someone to answer the next few questions:

    a) whoever mentioned vernon reid opening for crimson, i need more info. i was
    under the impression that crimson was doing the h.o.r.d.e. tour, and
    according to this web place called "pollstar"
    (http://www.pollstar.com/search.htm), it pretty much mentions them on dates
    coinciding with that travelling show. if crimson is doing their own thing, i
    would like more info. thanks a lot.

    if you do indeed get the chance, by all means, see both bands! i don't know
    about crimson, except for the rave reviews here and elsewhere, but vernon was
    incredible.

    b) i read in the ibanez newsletter that they were finally putting up a web
    page very soon, and i was wondering if anyone had info as to url's, or
    whatnot.

    that's all. if you're going to see pfunk in central park, check the guy in
    the crazy top hat wearing shorts and doc martens. tell him you love and
    worship him, and i will bless you.

    peace, and watch them 'crackers on the 4th.

    *****************************************************************
    david yoichi kobayashi
    the wild and magical koba.

    "i bring truth and understanding, i bring wit and wisdom fair. precious gifts
    beyond compare." -n. peart

    until the circle breaks, and wisdom lies ahead, the faithful live Awake, the
    rest remain misled." -j. petrucci

    binghamton university, music and philosophy
    *****************************************************************

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    Date: Thu, 04 Jul 1996 02:26:29 -0500
    From: Majesty <majesty@li.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1666
    Message-ID: <31DB7225.231C@li.net>

    Digest 1-666....cool,hehe

    > Rock on the radio...... you turn it up til your speakers blow!
    > who remembers dose guys? :)

    I do,I do...Firehouse Kicks Ass

    > "Terminate the mother now! You know ya gotta get hard" - Alice Cooper
    > - The World Needs Guts

    cool..more '80s Cheese Rock, I love It!

    > GO SEE INDEPENDENCE DAY!!!!

    /me agrees

    > I asked for someone to please unsubsribe me.!!!!

    What?!? Are yur Fingerz Broken?
     
    > Hagar said fan reaction in the band's online bulletin board has been
    > one of outrage.

    I kind of like the idea of Roth comin back...VH's current music is so
    uninspired...It just ain't what it used to be...

    > I think Bach should have replaced Dickinson, he woulda been
    > perfect to sing for maiden, anyone else heard that small
    > clip of Skid Row's Version for Children of the Damned?

    I did! I think Bas would have fit in pretty well...He's got the Range to
    pull it off.

    > Bach in Van Halen...

    I could never picture this at all....Bas singin' "Love Walks In" or "Top
    of the World"??
     
    > Bach in DT...

    Could Work...

    > Subject: CDs Purchased Unheard

    The Only CD I bought before hearing it was Manowar - Triumph Of Steel..
    I had to Pick A CD from BMG's List and that was the only one i didn't
    have..

    For Those people who have heard some of the New Dream Theater Material
    at the Clinics, what does it sound like? I&W?, Awake?, Both?, Neither?

    Has anyone Heard the New Unreleased Kiss thats been floating around the
    Internet? It's pretty damn heavy...

                                            Oh Poor Twisted Me,
                                                            -=YtseJim=-

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    Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 22:15:24 PST
    From: Mark Smeets <msmeets@ibm.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Web Page Update
    Message-ID: <199607040625.GAA66865@pop01.ny.us.ibm.net>

    ** Reply to note from ytsejam@ax.com 06/18/96 07:24am -0700
            
    Hey all,

    Just wanted to let you guys know that I updated my web page
    yet again, I now have over 1000 links on it, yes, I counted
    them all. Also, on the jammers pages, I have increased the
    number of jammers pages by alot, I have 130 of them now.

    http://www.smartt.com/~jsmeets/stranger/LInks.htm
     or
    http://www.smartt.com/~jsmeets/stranger/stranger.htm

    For all you Iron Maiden fans, esp of harris, I made a MAJOR
    update to his page, I got more of his gear and of past tour
    dates, check it out.

    http://www.smartt.com/~jsmeets/stranger/steve.htm

    Mark

    /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\|
    "To each his own and his own be damned"
    msmeets@ibm.net or msmeets@smartt.com
    http://www.smartt.com/~jsmeets/stranger/stranger.htm

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    Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 02:34:09 -0400
    From: WildKoba@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: enough with the vh shit already!
    Message-ID: <960704023407_148779564@emout17.mail.aol.com>

    jeez. next thing, i'll hear that petrucci is singing with them. can't wait to
    see some dolt make THAT obvious bit of sacrcasm a full-blown rumor.

    and that stp stuff. that too! tony macalpine? yeah, right. no diss to whoever
    posted that, but seriously now, I'D have a btter chance of joining that band
    before tony did (kinda picture it like vai in green day).

    the kurt cobain quiz was a mixture of hysterical laughter, and really
    disturbing stuff that hints that the author needs to chill, and let out some
    of that bitterness. so what if nirvana and friends took over the music world
    and pushed prog rock, the "heir apparent", out of what little limelight it
    may have had. we're still here! as much as i hate courntey love, i question
    the taste of the particular quiestion concerning her. i could also say a lot
    of shit about the last question, but i won't. i'm not gonna say, "that guy's
    an asshole". i almost agree with some of the things about kurt. but so what
    if the fans of "poor, misunderstood" kurt don't know what "tasteless" is.
    maybe in his bitterness towards nirvana he failed to see that he was pushing
    the envelope likewise. whatever. i'm not quite the moral majority, and at the
    end of this story, i simply couldn't care. maybe i was making some
    observations.

    whatever. fuck it.

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    Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 23:36:44 -0700 (PDT)
    From: Mithrandir <mithrandir@pb.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: VH manager?
    Message-ID: <199607040636.XAA10586@mindcrime.ax.com>

         Just a question for those who might know the answer. Is the Ray Daniels
    who manages VH the same Ray Daniels from RUSH's S.R.O management? That could
    be an intriguing combination.

         Alice in Chains singer in VH? I don't think so! That would be worse
    than Hagar.

         As for the radio thing, I didn't realize I was speaking for so many. I
    guess most of us feel the same way about "Popular music". I for one have
    sizeable buying power at 24 years old, and I think these corporations should
    listen to me. Most of the people in my age group grew up with "Heavy metal"
    around so why try and kill it?

             You have until Sunday to send me your thoughts on the battle
    between the Enterprise, and a Star Destroyer. Right now the tally is SD 18
    Enterprise 4.
    Someone wanted to know what would happen if the Battle Star Galactica joined
    the fight?

          I just became an uncle for the tenth time. A little girl 7lbs 7oz for
    those who care, my sister and baby are doing quite well, thank you.
                 
                         Elen sila lumenn omentilmo, Mithrandir

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    Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 02:40:18 -0400
    From: ai292@freenet.carleton.ca (Gordon McFee)
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1665
    Message-ID: <199607040640.CAA11076@freenet2.carleton.ca>

    >I tend to agree! BTW, I think they should have a new subtitle for ID -
    >
    >"Four Billion Funerals and a Wedding"

            Amazing flick.. I went in expecting to see a great movie and I got
    all I wanted.

    > At any rate, If I go, maybe we can arrange for the Canadian
    >Ambassadors of the Church of Dream Theater to have the same room. I
    >wonder how much Upper Canada Rebellion I can sit in my gym bag. ;)
    > Maybe I'll bring some Molson XXX and we'll see who can still
    >walk by the end of the CON. ;)

            Sounds good, although you may have trouble getting it over the
    border (?).. I think Americans prefer if you leave that strong stuff North..

    >hmmm.... now gimme a minute, i want to look back at a previous
    >jam... yep. there it is. at the #4 spot for the most posts for
    >the month of may (22,BTW) was Dave King. what are YOU bitching
    >about Dave? at least Ben tries to add a little humor to the jam.
    >quit trying to start shit with people over stupid little things.
    >
    >>BTW, if you're quoting someone, then QUOTE!!!!!. For instance:
    >>
    >>And I listen openly... (JM)
    >>Ben Laussade
    >
    >uh oh. Grammer 101. welcome to class kids....

            Glad to be here! BTW it's grammar! <ducking>

    --
    "To seek the sacred river Alph, and walk the caves of ice..." - Rush
    "Ashes and Diamonds,Foe and Friend/We were all equal in the end." -Pink Floyd
    "The sands of time were eroded by the river of constant change." - Genesis
    "Others steal your thoughts they're not confined within your mind"-DreamTheater
    

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    Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 02:59:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Galactic Cowboy <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: CDs you've bought but never heard... Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.960704024334.23797D-100000@umbc10.umbc.edu>

    OK...here are the ones I remember off the top of my head:

    1) Black Jester "welcome to the moonlight circus"

    These guys smoke! Actually, I did hear one song "mirrors song" and decided to buy the album just from hearing that song. I think DT fans would like this disc.

    2) Gothic Impressions "The Par Lindh Project"

    I read about this in a catalog. The CD was described as "the brain salad surgery of the 90s." So I had to buy it. There is this 20 minute track on it called "cathedral" which has a very cool organ intro. Really good stuff! ELP fans should pick this one up.

    3) Ivanhoe "symbols of time"

    I heard all the great reviews by this band so I decided to get it. I don't like them as much as I should. There are some really good songs on this CD, but others I can't really get into.

    4) Magellan "impending ascension"

    I heard many good things a while ago about this band on the jam. Again, there is an ELP/YES influence. These guys are good!

    5) List

    I was at a Best Buy a few weeks ago and they had all these classical CDs for $2. So I chose List. I'm not much into classical but I like what I hear.

    The next CD I am getting that I never heard before is Boud Deun. I hear that they kick ass so hopefully I will think so too. I missed them at ProgScape though. I did get to see Braindance. They were cool.

    Brandon

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    Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 09:06:50 +0200 From: akyuz@ltp.dmx.epfl.ch To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: pootatoes Message-ID: <v02130500ae011d689fd9@[128.178.99.94]>

    Latest news from the Ytse-front:

    IBMMAIL has mutated into

    P O O T !!!

    ..at least that's funnier. IBMMAIL was a bit too conventional

    ........................................................................ D A V E K I N G "If you see a problem where there is none, then the problem is YOU" (dk) "holding on is easier than letting go" (fw)

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    Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 09:12:46 +0200 From: akyuz@ltp.dmx.epfl.ch To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: electro-shit Message-ID: <v02130501ae011eadec3f@[128.178.99.94]>

    >Date: Wed, 3 Jul 96 11:27:56 EDT >From: unknown <slayer@pegasus.rutgers.edu> >To: ytsejam@ax.com >Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1663 >Message-ID: <CMM-RU.1.5.836407676.slayer@pegasus.rutgers.edu> > >I asked for someone to please unsubsribe me.!!!! Your god damn letters are >flooding my mail!! when will one of you fucking morons listen@!!!!!!!!!!!! >Stop sending me shit!! > >------------------------------ > >End of YTSEJAM Digest 1664 >**************************

    Cool...at least an EoJ

    BTW, I've just e-mailed him "shit". I didn't know you could do that until our fellow mentioned it.

    Electronic shit...Haha!

    ........................................................................ D A V E K I N G "If you see a problem where there is none, then the problem is YOU" (dk) "holding on is easier than letting go" (fw)

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    Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 09:41:22 +0200 From: akyuz@ltp.dmx.epfl.ch To: ytsejam@ax.com Message-ID: <v02130500ae0124e6af1e@[128.178.99.94]>

    >From: subtlerage@gnn.com (Andrew Miller) (snip) >hmmm.... now gimme a minute, i want to look back at a previous >jam... yep. there it is. at the #4 spot for the most posts for >the month of may (22,BTW) was Dave King. what are YOU bitching >about Dave? at least Ben tries to add a little humor to the jam. >quit trying to start shit with people over stupid little things.

    Hey I was starting to miss you, Andy!

    BTW, did you say HUMOR?

    >uh oh. Grammer 101. welcome to class kids....

    I you caught some mistake I didn't see, please tell me instead of pissing in zig-zag!!

    Cheers,

    ........................................................................ D A V E K I N G "If you see a problem where there is none, then the problem is YOU" (dk) "holding on is easier than letting go" (fw)

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    Date: Thu, 4 Jul 96 09:43:52 CES From: quism@VNET.IBM.COM To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Gettin' a background Message-ID: <199607040747.AAA11151@mindcrime.ax.com>

    Greetings from sunny SpainY

    I would like to find a nice-great-fantastic-terrific picture with DT's logo (not the name) to put it as my Windows background. I'm afraid I have no time to wander, search (& destroy) and find it through the web (thanks to that nice-fuckin' thing called 'work', you know). Could anyone help me?

    Fernando. (Madrid, Spain, Third Stone from the Sun) "ooooooooom" (Revelation from a cow that reached the nirvana. ;-))

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    Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 09:54:13 +0200 From: akyuz@ltp.dmx.epfl.ch To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: codes Message-ID: <v02130501ae0126da24b8@[128.178.99.94]>

    Query:

    Can someone kindly explain me the meaning of the codes made up of:

    ( ) , : - etc.?

    I've been watching this going on for quite a while, however, there doesn't seem to be a general rule for these codes.

    In case someone didn't get it:

    T H I S I S N O T A F L A M E ! ! !

    (dammit!)

    ........................................................................ D A V E K I N G "If you see a problem where there is none, then the problem is YOU" (dk) "holding on is easier than letting go" (fw)

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    Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 16:02:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com> To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Mike Bahr updates on WWW Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960703160118.1762B-100000@bdmserver>

    How come Jeff Chew never updates the Mike Bahr link any more?

    Is there another site that has the update?

    |-----------------------------------------------------------------------| | Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com | |=======================================================================| | "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater | | "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------| |The Baltimore Orioles-The team to beat in 1996!!!!!!! | Go DC United! | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------|

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    Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 11:59:02 +2000 From: <raitz@guvatrak.ee> "Raivo Hool" To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: misc and related :-) Message-ID: <9607040923.AA10216@pepe.online.ee>

    >>> I dunno, I'm a little out of shape in the alcohol consumption game. >> I'm a little out of shape FROM the alcohol consumption game! >I'm a little out of money from the alcohol consumption game. :)

    anything goes. :-) provided the second is true, chances are that the first and the third are true too :-)

    congratulate me. two conversions within a week. a girl previously heavily into judas priest and metallica no longer wants to know about those bands. :-) but seriously, she's a definite dt die-hard now. and one guy i know that in the beginning hated everything but funky and faith no more... well he's in the 'jam club too. mostly because of john myung and james labrie.

    how's that for the true dt content? :-)

    raitz

    playing: alice in chains, "no excuses" waiting in line: queensryche, "promised land"

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    Date: Thu, 04 Jul 1996 11:23:42 +0100 (MET) From: Beeblebrox <0384577@ptfe22.hro.nl> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Stuff from Napalm Death Message-ID: <C14A2A773E@ptfe22.hro.nl>

    Hi everybody.

    I am new to the Ytsejam, and I wondered if there are any Napalm Death fans around. i hope someone could help me getting strange stuff of napalm since I only got 32 cd's of them yet.

    Further i would like to know wether anyone is a Nine Inch Nails fan.

    See Ya,

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    Date: Thu, 04 Jul 1996 14:10:19 GMT From: rterry@inforamp.net (Rick Terry) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1666 Message-ID: <31dbc85e.166752@mail.inforamp.net>

    Hi Jamjars,

    >Date: Thu, 04 Jul 1996 00:48:19 -0700 >From: Mike Backof <mbacko1@umbc.edu>

    >1. Sarah McLachlan - Fumbling Towards Ecstacy > > A friend was really into her and recommended this CD, we have > similar musical tastes (about every genre is in our collections) > so I bought it. Great CD, Tori fans should dig this.

    Actually, there is quite a rivalry between these two, at least there is in the Sarah newsgroup, and many of her fans don't like Tori at all. I was quite surprised by that since the lyrics of both artists deal with social and personal issues. She has 2 earlier records. The first is entitled Touch and contains songs that are more folk oriented in the sense that acoustic guitar is prevalent in the albums mix. My favorite two tracks from this record are VOX and Out Of The Shadows. The second record, Solace, is more similar to FTE, using a wider tonal palette and more complex arrangements. The best known track from this record is probably Drawn To The Rhythm. My personal favorite is Into The Fire. There is also a live video baring the name Fumbling Towards Ecstacy. It was shot in April 1994 in Montreal on the supporting tour and is a MUST own if you like her music. Sarah's songs, like those of many artists, truly come to life in live performance and this is a set containing every song I could ever want to see her perform live. Oh! By the way Mike, don't forget that the last 4 minutes and change of the title track from FTE contains the Piano only version of Possession. Finally, for those of you who still enjoy listening to modules, Necros (Ex Psychic Monks, Five Musicians) did a Screamtracker (S3M) version of Possession using the piano and vocals from the last 4+ minutes of FTE and adding the remaining instrument tracks himself. It is an interesting take on the song and is quite well done. It's also a 1 meg file so be certain that your player can utilize XMS or EMS.

    Cheers,

    Rick Toronto

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