YTSEJAM Digest 1679
Today's Topics:
1) DT's jazz
by Sensory Overload <slowhand@wam.umd.edu>
2) mime mail
by Sensory Overload <slowhand@wam.umd.edu>
3) Skadz needed!!!!!
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
4) Ivory Gate of Dreams
by Mithrandir <mithrandir@pb.net>
5) appendage
by Uncle.Dave@asu.edu
6) Miscellaneous stuff
by Big.Swifty@twav.com
7) Uuencoding and Base 64
by rterry@inforamp.net (Rick Terry)
8) Quake Awake Rules!!!
by Jeremy Hyde <tormato@allinux1.alliance.net>
9) MIME crap
by pgor@netcom.com (Paul Goracke)
10) woho, back in tact!
by RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
11) Damnit !!!
by Mark Bredius <bredius@GlobalXS.nl>
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1678
by "Brian K. Adams" <aa467@seorf.ohiou.edu>
13) Progressivity
by Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com> (by way of Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>)
14) Further Drive-By Comments From Adam
by Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
15) I Mother Earth, Jawbox, and more :) [Ytsejam Post] (fwd)
by NUPRIN <nuprin@wichita.fn.net>
16) Ummm...
by Jeff Stewart <stewaj01@condor.stcloud.msus.edu>
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Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 10:03:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: Sensory Overload <slowhand@wam.umd.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT's jazz
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960709100159.14952A-100000@rac4.wam.umd.edu>
hmm, i haven't figured out how to quote with this program yet, so
here goes:
that whole fingerstyle bit at the end of LiT sounds really jazzy
to me ... if I listen to it with my eyes closed (or the tape copy I have
;)) it reminds me incredibly of a saxophone line ... (aside from double
stops which are kinda hard to do on a sax...:)) ... it's like,
Funk/new/jazz ... wonder how much money DT could make playing at newage
jazz clubs ... cuz that band can JAM ...
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Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 10:09:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: Sensory Overload <slowhand@wam.umd.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: mime mail
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960709100524.14952B-100000@rac4.wam.umd.edu>
STOP the UUENCODED/WINMAIL! PLEASE! :)
hey, i was playin DT at work, and one of my former coworkers
(eheheheh) said, "What is that shit? IT sounds like 80's hair metal.
Guys aren't supposed to be able to sing that high ... they can't even
play, you can't even groove to it! it sucks! turn it off!" ...
well, ya can't please 'em all ... then there's the *other* guy whosaid
"man, that fast guitar playing thing is old ... " from a guy who
listens to really really BAD dance/techno music ... anyway ... <sigh>
and yet another comment I heard: "DT is just regurgitating
yngwie's hits-that-never-were with a little chunk. it's all been done
before"
one word
BLASPHEMY
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Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:53:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Skadz needed!!!!!
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960709115218.19493T-100000@bdmserver>
We have to stop these encoded messages. They are getting annoying. Then
there is also that win.dat file.
kill them
kill them all...
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Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 08:56:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mithrandir <mithrandir@pb.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Ivory Gate of Dreams
Message-ID: <199607091556.IAA27402@mindcrime.ax.com>
I believe it was Rip who mentined Fates Warnings The Ivory Gate of
Dreams, and its similarities with ACOS. Well the fact that the first parts
are both called "Innocence" is just the beginning. Both songs are about the
same length. They both start and end with the same accoustical intros and
outros. Hell even the lead ins to the outro's is the same. Oh yeah one last
thing, they are both by kicking bands.
The voting is done. The Star Destroyer won the battle in space over
the Enterprise by a margin of 19-4 I thank everyone who participated,
you're input was greatly appreciated.
Go see Independence day if you have not all ready. I still think a
Star Destroyer would defeat one of the alien crafts, and the "Executioner"
could take out the mother ship. If that could not than the Death Star
could(The one that was destroyed in ROTJ)
Elen sila lumenn omentilmo, Mithrandir
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Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 09:05:53 -0700 (MST)
From: Uncle.Dave@asu.edu
To: THE PROUD FANS OF DREAM THEATER <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: appendage
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960709090420.17638C-100000@email1.asu.edu>
i appoligize for writing such a long post last time, but i needed to get
some things off my chest in some way.
l8r guys
DON'T LET YOUR BRAIN TAKE A VACATION...IT MIGHT LOOSE ITS LUGGAGE!!!
"She can turn a drop of water into an ocean"
---Dream Theater
The Music and The Man Behind it:
____ ____ ___ ___ ____ ____ ___ ___ ____ ____
/ \ // / \ / / / // \ // \ /_ / / / \ /
/---- \/ /----/ \ /---- / /---//---- \ // \ /\ / /---- \
/____ / /____ \____// / / //____ \/ \____// \ / /____ / \
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Date: 9 Jul 1996 11:14:30 CDT
From: Big.Swifty@twav.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Miscellaneous stuff
Message-ID: <199607091614.JAA27649@mindcrime.ax.com>
YT>"All animals are created equal but animals are more equal than others."
YT> - can anyone name that quote?
George Orwell, 'Animal Farm'? I don't know...
It seems that every time I buy a CD I'm buying it unheard. I don't
always like them, but lately I've been doing much better in that dept:)
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Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 16:28:46 GMT
From: rterry@inforamp.net (Rick Terry)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Uuencoding and Base 64
Message-ID: <31e28325.11628611@mail.inforamp.net>
Hi folks,
>Date: Tue, 9 Jul 96 09:56:46 GMT
>From: Gary Cleghorn <gary@tequila.demon.co.uk>
>I agree Rick, if anyone has anything to say on the subject of
>recreating KM then e-mail me directly NOT TO THE JAM.
>
>I use an atari falcon so all this winmail stuff is useless.
>
>( i am starting to wonder if its the server that is the problem as
>other threads seem to be affected as well... maybe its the IBM server
>getting its revenge , remember HAL? )
I have discussed this privately with a couple of other users
here, and am now of the mind that it may be a packet handling problem
at AX.COM, related to some sort of a sharing violation in the server
which controls outgoing mail traffic. Skadz, is this a possibility?
Please note that I was not launching a personal attack on
anyone here. My intention was only to remind subscribers not to post
binaries to the Jam. The randomness of the posts made me think that
the improper content was deliberate. I am no longer certain of that
and I apologize if I unintentionally offended anyone.
Cheers,
Rick
Toronto
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Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 12:37:43 -0700
From: Jeremy Hyde <tormato@allinux1.alliance.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Quake Awake Rules!!!
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19960709193743.00694ee4@mail.alliance.net>
>From: Kevin Rios <wilson@specdata.com>
>To: ytsejam@ax.com
>Subject: Quake & Awake!
This guy is pretty damn cool, he wrote:
>Holy Shit! And I thought I was the only one! I'ts just so awesome when you
>boot up the game and
>CIaW starts crankin'. Notice that it only seems to play the heavier tunes?
Well, not necessarily...I started a game (and once, only once) and it
started playing "The Silent Man." I almost thought that it would cool down
my temper (hehehe, Tempus's Temper, I like it) thus making me half the
psycho, and making me play nice. :) Then I realized it was the first level,
and calmed down.
Now all us Quake Awakers need is is the guy who did the Doom2 DT level
(.wad) is do a Quake Awake level! And make sure it only plays the heavy
songs on Awake! Anyone other than me think that this is an ingenious idea?
QUAKE ROCKS!
"You never give me any meat."
-JimmyC
"I only give my meat to women."
-Skadz
====================
| -=Jeremy Hyde=- |
| aka |
| -=Tempus=- |
====================
You can mail this sonsabitch at:
tormato@alliance.net
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Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 10:01:39 -0700
From: pgor@netcom.com (Paul Goracke)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: MIME crap
Message-ID: <v02140b02ae083dc16dde@[128.95.235.96]>
Partha asked (and others yelled):
> whazzup with this MIME stuff?
It looks like the infamous Win95 Exchange "this text should be colored
black" goof-up. I have sent the recent "offenders" instructions that should
help avoid this, so we'll see what happens.
It's not really their fault. They just believed Microsoft knows what
they're doing. Which was their first mistake.
pg
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Paul Goracke | "To do is to be" - Aristotle
pgor@netcom.com | "To be is to do" - Plato
| "Do be do be do" - Sinatra
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Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 12:04:34 -0500
From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: woho, back in tact!
Message-ID: <31E29122.557B@dreamt.org>
/me just read thru 7 jams. its nice to be on track :)
>S U P E R I O R I S A S I G N E D B A N D N O W
>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
awwwwwrriigghttt Bernd!! just one question- what are you doing writing
e-mail to us when you should be PARTYING! ;) /me makes plans in advance
to go to the record store in sept. to pick up their first signed release
=)
~Rip
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Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 19:29:21 +-200
From: Mark Bredius <bredius@GlobalXS.nl>
To: "'Majesty-Mailinglist'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Damnit !!!
Message-ID: <01BB6DCD.F47EE220@LaForge.startrek.globalxs.nl>
> Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 22:19:11 +-200
> From: Mark Bredius <bredius@GlobalXS.nl>
> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
> Subject: Gelezen: RE: Help Locating CD's
> Message-ID: <01BB6D20.D1DB1E80@Odo.startrek.globalxs.nl>
>
> ------ =_NextPart_000_01BB6D20.D1E44640
> [cut] [the] [crap]
> ------ =_NextPart_000_01BB6D20.D1E44640--
I dunno how the hell this happened...
"Gelezen" (in the subject) means that it's been read... (Dutch)
"RE: Help Locating CD's" was the subject line of *my* Ytsejam #1674...
I think my provider screwed up... It sent a message that I've
received Ytsejam #1674... Hope this isn't going to happen with
every Jam from now on... :( Then I'll have to unsubscribe, until
it's been fixed... Sowwy for the inconvenience...
Skadz ? Any thoughts as to why this happened ?
I think the same thing happened to Sinista... His message was
called "Re: (U)MYTSE-Con", which was probably the topic of his
Ytsejam #1675 digest...
I didn't do it on purpose to piss anyone off... It might seem like it,
after Rick Terry said this, just before *my* post :
> Could we PLEASE keep the Base 64 and UUENCODED data OUT OF THE JAM!!!
/) (\
Again... sowwy @-->-->--- \/W\/
________________________________________________________________/ o o \_
"I've got to do something about this loathsome state I'm in" (:`)Y(':)
_____D___i___s_____c___o___n_____n___e___c_____t___e___d________\ '-` /_
Itchy (NOT Bitchy), Itchy@dreamt.org - Mark Bredius, Bredius@GlobalXS.nl
________________________________________________________________________
"Life would be so much easier if I had the source code."
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Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 14:26:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Brian K. Adams" <aa467@seorf.ohiou.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1678
Message-ID: <199607091826.OAA11884@ra.cs.ohiou.edu>
>what was that that Rodney King said?
Ouch!
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Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 12:09:05 -0700
From: Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com> (by way of Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Progressivity
Message-ID: <199607091909.MAA17297@main.cfmc.com>
>>From: Jon Byrne <rael@access.mountain.net>
>>Yeah, I think a good deal of people consider Tull prog. In fact, a while
>>back there was a top 50 prog albums of all time survey done on
>>alt.music.prog (the forerunner to r.m.p.), and Tull collected 2 spots with
>>_Aqualung_ and _Thick as a Brick_, can't remember the rankings, tho'.
>>Likewise, _I&W_ is on there, but I can't remember where. Ah hell, I'll just
>>go get the list and send it.
>>
>>> Ah, yes, the love of progressive fans to put unknown music at the
>>>top. This is, I guess, for the same reason that paintings of vaginas are
>>>hailed as genius and sell for millions. I guess I just don't "get it" :).
>>
>>I'm not quite sure what you mean hear. Surely you're not saying that
>>great music=great sales? God knows, we've been down that path before. :)
>>BTW, if vagina paintings are genius, then how about the dude who cut a cow
>>and called it art? (No, there is no punchline)
Tull, I think, is clearly prog. The guys can play, the employ elaborate
arranging techniques (long songs!), and have mixed genres throughout the
history of the band (the first Celt Metal band!). I remember the
aforementioned prog poll -- seems like Yes, Marillion, and Genesis did well.
Rush fairly well, DT and other, more metal-leaning bands did VERY poorly, in
comparison to bands like IQ, Anglagard, Pendragon, and Camel. There were a
couple of other bands, not necessarily Orthodox prog that got a mention, as
well: The Lost Souls and King's X come to mind.
I think that bolsters the notion, though, that there's a prog cult as hung
up on obscurity as there is an MTV push to popularize certain musical
trends. Listen with your ears, folks, not your eyes.....
Adam D. Barnhart
adamb@cfmc.com
ydnt85a@prodigy.com
Five Gratuitous CD's:
=====================
1. The Beyond: Crawl
2. Lost Souls: Doin' The Modern Mojo
3. Mozart: Eine Kline Nachtmusik/Berlin
4. Dream Theater: Live At The Marquee
5. Rush: Fly By Night
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Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 12:32:31 -0700
From: Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Further Drive-By Comments From Adam
Message-ID: <199607091932.MAA11983@main.cfmc.com>
Play-by-play on 1673:
>From: dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld)
>I've purchased many a CD without ever hearing it before...here are some of
>the higlights...
>Atomic Opera - For Madmen Only
>echolyn - as the world
>Fates Warning - Parallels
>Galactic Cowboys - Galactic Cowboys
>Galactic Cowboys - Space In Your Face
>King's X - Dogman
>Dream Theater - Awake
The Sam Taylor sound....King's X, The Galactic Cowboys, and Atomic Opera DO
have a similar sound. Atomic Opera's a little like The Beyond -- awfully
good, hard to find, but you've got a good chance to pick it up out of the $1
bin. The Galactic Cowboys' records also tend to suffer that fate (for that
matter, I've seen ALL of those on CD, with the exception of the last two, in
clearance bins for $2 or less...amazing).
>From: Jon Byrne <rael@access.mountain.net>
>I mentioned a top 50 prog album list that was on the prog newsgroup a while
>back. It is a tad out of date, but here it is anyway:
>
>1. Genesis: _Selling England by the Pound_
>2. Pink Floyd: _Wish You Were Here_
>3. Yes: _Close to the Edge_
>4. Marillion: _Misplaced Childhood_
>5. Marillion: _Script for a Jester's Tear_
>6. King Crimson: _In the Court of the Crimson King_
>7. ELP: _Brain Salad Surgery_
>8. Pink Floyd: _Dark Side of the Moon_
>9. Genesis: _The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway_
>10. Moody Blues: _Days of Future Passed_
>11. Dream Theater: _Images & Words_
>12. Genesis: _Foxtrot_
>13. Jethro Tull: _Thick as a Brick_.
>14. Yes: _Relayer_
>15. can't find it!
>16. King Crimson: _Red_
>17. Genesis: _A Trick of the Tail_
>18. Rush: _Hemispheres_
>19. Camel: _The Snow Goose_
>20. Fish: _Vigil in a Wilderness of Mirrors_
>21. Camel: _Mirage_
>22. Rush: _Moving Pictures_
>23. Mike Oldfield: _Amarok_
>24. Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman & Howe: _Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman, & Howe_
>25. Caravan: _Land of Grey and Pink_
>26. Moody Blues: _To Our Childrens..._ (can't remeber the rest)
>27. Van der Graff Genrerator: _Pawn Hearts_
>28. IQ: _Ever_
>29. Moody Blues: _Every Good Boy Deserves Favour_
>30. Rush: _A Farewell to Kings_
>31. Rush: _2112_
>32. IQ: _The Wake_
>33. Angalgaard: _Hybris_
>34. King Crimson: _Discipline_
>35. Yes: _The Yes Album_
>36. Pink Floyd: _Animals_
>37. Genesis: _Wind and Wuthering_
>38. Kate Bush: _Hounds of Love_
>39. Queensryche: _Operation Mindchrime_
>40. Renaissance: _Ashes are Burning_
>41. UK: _UK_
>42. Marillion: _Brave_
>43. ELP: _Tarkus_
>44. Gentle Giant: _Octopus_
>45. can't find it!
>46. Steve Hackett: _Voyage of the Acolyte_
>47. Jethro Tull: _Aqualung_
>48. Peter Gabriel: _IV (Security)_
>49. Frank Zappa: _One Size Fits All_
>50. Kansas: _Leftoverture
>
>I'm pretty sure one of the unknows is Crimson's _Larks Tounges in Aspic_,
>but I don't have a clue as to the other one. Also, there were ties in the
>original, but apparently I didn't note them when I copied it.
I think it might have been "Fugazi." I'll check into it....I think I, too,
have the list sitting around somewhere. I believe there was also an
assessment of the top 25 bands or something, too. I'll check it out and try
to get back on it. But the list sure underscores the tendencies of the
folks on a.m.p./r.m.p.
>From: Jeremy Hyde <tormato@allinux1.alliance.net>
>Yes, very very true, yesterday, I took a look at a certain Yes FAQ and when
>they approached Robert Fripp about replacing Peter Banks, he said something
>to the effect of, "I don't want to join a band of dinosaurs." This was back
>in 1970 I believe. Yes had only been together 2 years! Wow, two years, and
>you're a dinosaur! Robert Fripp is about the most conceited person in prog,
>maybe that's the reason that King Crimson is highly respected?
>
>BTW, I still like KC, it's just Fripp's attitude I don't like.
He MAY be the more conceited person in prog, but I'm not so sure....the
guy's got a LOT of comptetion. He's really vigilant about his beliefs,
though, which isn't really so outrageous. Not that I agree...
Adam D. Barnhart
adamb@cfmc.com
ydnt85a@prodigy.com
Five Gratuitous CD's:
=====================
1. Flying In A Blue Dream -- Joe Satriani
2. Garage Sale -- Carl Verheyen
3. I Dream The Body Electric -- Weather Report
4. Doin' The Modern Mojo -- Lost Souls
5. Little Earthquakes -- Tori Amos
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Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 16:08:31 -0500 (CDT)
From: NUPRIN <nuprin@wichita.fn.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: I Mother Earth, Jawbox, and more :) [Ytsejam Post] (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.91.960709160821.16811A-100000@wichita.fn.net>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
John Nguyen
(aka NUPRIN)
musican, artist, programmer, lover, parent
http://www.feist.com/~nuprin
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"...all I want is to have my peace of mind..."
-- Boston
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 14:32:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: Andy <ytsejam@UDel.Edu>
To: "John T. Nguyen" <nuprin@fn.net>
Subject: I Mother Earth, Jawbox, and more :) [Ytsejam Post]
Ok today I bought the new I mother Earth album. I hope most of you know
who they are, because if you don't then you are really missing out.
First off, they opened for Dream Theater on there Awake tour. Second,
this is there second album, and you all have had more then enough time to
get there first. And finally, the lead singer along with Alex Lifeson
created VICTOR, and if you don't have that album you suck and you don't
really deserve to live.
Now onto the album. It's good, real good. Better than there first
album. It's called _Scenary and Fish_. It is very blues influeced and
it is very good. Did I say it was good yet? If you like Alice in
Chains and Rush, this would be a good mix of the two.
They do thank Dream Theatre in the liner notes though, which I think is
important because Eye Mother Earth opened for them :) .
Ok on to Jawbox. I hope some of you know who they are. They got there
start on Fugazi's label, Discord, and are one of the best punk bands to
come aropund in a while. They are not shitty punk though. They have
very insightfull lyrics and great vocal harmonies. If you like bands
such as Quicksand, and Helmet... check these guys out. BTW, as a bonus
track on there new album they do a cover of Cornflake Girl by Tori
Amos... so it is like really a must buy. The album is JAwbox, the band
is Jawbox. Connect to Desoto Record's homepage for more info.
And finally I hate to say stuff about this and to talk about this, but
should I expect to get tapes back from Brian Cox. I never said anything
bad about the guy. He agreed to make these tapes for me. Can I at least
get them back, I spent like 15 bucks on the whole deal. I know he might
be busy and shit but it's like 15 bucks, and if he just mails me the
money that would be find too. Can anyone help me out on this or give me
any info on this. Sorry, to bother anyone with that (like you Brian),
but I just want a straight answer.
Thanks.... andy
Andrew Miller "Where do I take this pain of mine,
ytsejam@Udel.Edu I run but it stays right by my side."
--or-- -James Hetfield
andym@dreamt.org
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Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 15:51:40 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jeff Stewart <stewaj01@condor.stcloud.msus.edu>
To: Ytsejam Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Ummm...
Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.91.960709154834.11409A-100000@condor.stcloud.msus.edu>
Am I the only one who thinks this sudden barrage (sp?) of MIME and Base 64
encoded stuff is someone's new attempt at spamming the jam? It seems to
be happening a bit too frequently to be an honest mistake. Maybe I'm
just paranoid.
Geez...some people really need a hobby...
_____________________________________________________________________________
Jeff Stewart (AKA Remo) |"Where would you rather be?
remo@isl.net | Anywhere, anywhere but here.
remo@dreamt.org | When will the time be right?
stewaj01@condor.stcloud.msus.edu | Anytime but now..."
stewaj01@tigger.stcloud.msus.edu | --"Double Agent" by Rush
http://condor.stcloud.msus.edu/~stewaj01|
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