YTSEJAM Digest 1680
Today's Topics:
1) Superior, Angra, And T-Ride
by Phillip Scott Kish <pkish@tiger.lsuiss.ocs.lsu.edu>
2) Stopping By Woods On A Snowy Evening
by Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
3) message to Portland 'jammers
by jestok@interlog.com (Mike Estok)
4) Quake.
by Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
5) MIME crap and disks to sell ....
by Mark Metzger <mmetzger@bostech.com>
6) MIME crap and disks to sell ....
by Mark Metzger <mmetzger@bostech.com>
7) new prog. band CLOCKWORK
by FMTG05A@prodigy.com (MR ANTHONY L SCIAMANNA SR)
8) Das Boots...
by mrkizer@CCGATE.HAC.COM
9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1679
by Dave Hatlee <buster@ee.net>
10) Re: Quake
by SaVeur <saveur@cais.cais.com>
11) Mime mail, Mithrandir on drugs, Superior's great! ('nuff said)
by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1672
by ai292@freenet.carleton.ca (Gordon McFee)
13) Tickets to the YtseCon III
by Aladdin <jc309@columbia.edu>
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Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 16:37:31 -0500 (CDT)
From: Phillip Scott Kish <pkish@tiger.lsuiss.ocs.lsu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Superior, Angra, And T-Ride
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.960709163010.42550A-100000@tiger2.ocs.lsu.edu>
Another congrats to Superior. I got the CD a couple of weeks ago and it
is excellent.
Can anyone tell me what Angra sounds like?
Does anyone know where I can get the CD from the band T-Ride? CD Europe
couldn't get it and no one else I can found has it.
I got the Lord Bane CD yesterday and it is very good. One thing I
noticed is that they didn't have a picture of the keyboardist. On the
tape my friend has ther is a pic of him. Apparently ther was a break
between them before they broke up. Anyone know what became of them?
I don't know if this has been mentioned yet,but on some Red Hot Chilly
Peppers MTV thing a few months back, I've heard Mike Portnoy made a brief
cameo at the snack bar.
That's all
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Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 15:17:54 -0700
From: Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Stopping By Woods On A Snowy Evening
Message-ID: <199607092217.PAA04197@main.cfmc.com>
I'm feeling wordy lately (my workload has lightened up a little):
>From: Jennifer <jenibear@gvn.net>
>>38. Kate Bush: _Hounds of Love_
>
>I didn't know that Kate was considered proggy. I recently picked up
>"The Whole Story." The only song of hers I'd heard before this blind
>purchase (although highly recommended by others) was "Don't Give Up," a
>duet with Peter Gabriel.
To some extent, yes. I suspect it has something to do with her working with
David Gilmour, and some of the Floyd leanings of her music. I dunno that
she's really that progressive, but if there's such a thing as Progressive
Pop, I think she's mining that territory, along with Paul Simon, Peter
Gabriel, and Sting.
>From: Mike Backof <mbacko1@umbc.edu>
>
>> >Universe Zero, 5UUs, Magma, Miriodor (all RIO bands)
>> >Gentle Giant, Gong, Mahavishnu Orchestra (non RIO obscure original bands)
>> >King Crimson (favorite of the r.m.p crowd of the more "popular" bands)
>> >Genesis (their post-Duke work is generally frowned upon)
>> >Yes (a lot of people hate everything after Relayer)
>> >ELP (really went down hill after a while, keyboard fans like them)
>> >Jethro Tull (earlier albums were very progressive)
>> >Marillion, Asia, IQ, Gryphon, Starcastle, Ozric Tentacles (early
>> > "derivative" bands)
>> >Anekdoten, Glass Hammer, Iluvatar (later "neo-prog")
>> >Rush (generally hated in prog circles, they tend adapt to their
>> > environment and not pioneer, this annoys prog die-hards)
>> >Queensryche, Fates Warning, Dream Theater (prog-metal bands)
>>
>> 1) Grouping Mahavishnu Orchestra with Gong and Gentle Giant, I think, is a
>> little odd. MO is definitely for fusiony than the other two -- closer to
>> Brand X than Gong.
>
>Agreed, but if you note the "wanker" thread, fusion players tend to be
wanky which
>lowers their status on r.m.p. That is why I didn't put Mahavishnu in the
first
>category. Gong and Gentle Giant also have a large number of followers and few
>dissenters.
Okay. I can see that....they certainly have more to do with Gong than
Magma. That having been said, the land where fusion meets prog doesn't
really fit any of the above categories -- Lifetime, UK, Mahavishnu
Orchestra, Brand X. I think that have to be considered a distinct movement.
>> 2) Ozric Tentacles as "derivitive?" Of who?
>
>Gong, at least in some of the sounds produced. I think that they groove a
lot heavier
>than the earlier iterations of Gong, but some effects have a very Gongish
styling.
A little. I still think it's a stretch. But Ozric Tentacles sounds a lot
more contemporary and (gasp) alternative than Gong.
>> 3) One cannot emphasize enough how NO progressive group seems to remain
>> popular well into their career, with the possible exception of King Crimson.
>> Virtually all of the older bands that have remained on the scene -- Genesis,
>> Yes, Tull, Pink Floyd, even Marillion -- are vilified in a.m.p./r.m.p. for
>> recent "pop" leanings.
>
>Yes, but they are also defended in general for having good albums. Are we
discussing
>where bands are now in popularity on r.m.p based upon their current lineups
or a
>historical thing. I am ranking them based upon the whole history of the
band, not based
>upon where I think today's versions of the band should be.
Absolutely. The prog poll from a year ago that was just posted, I think,
bears that out. The bands I mentioned really dominate that list. Marillion
doesn't belong to a first generation, to be sure, but they have a LOT of
legitimacy among members of the prog community.
>> >4. Rush, the "special case" band. They started off copying Led Zeppelin,
>> >then moved on to Yes in the late 1970s, then to The Police in the early
>> >1980s, then the keyboard pop movement in the middle 1980s, then when
>> >keyboards were going out, they released Presto with fewer keys and an
>> >acoustic sound, now in the 1990s they cater to the grunge, heavy
>> >movement. Their new album will probably sound like Dave Matthews Band or
>> >something.
>>
>> Yes and no. There's something along the lines of "Orthodox prog" -- people
>> for whom prog is about "Close To The Edge," Gentle Giant, and Pendragon, NOT
>> anything which leans strongly toward rock. Rush is clearly the special case
>> for reasons very familiar to people on this mailing list -- by their second
>> album, Rush was clearly charting a progressive course, but a truly
>> aggressive one. Cream, Yes, and Zeppelin fell together, which created a
>> heaviness unknown to prog, with the less-extreme exception of Tull (Deep
>> Purple is in this general direction, as well, but not in the camp, per se).
>> But there's a tremendous disservice paid to the band in the above
>> description. They've always been a pioneering band because of their
>> juxtaposition of sounds. A lot of people associate prog with classical
>> music, but Rush has traditionally informed their hard rock sound with
>> different sounds: Reggae (as early as "Vital Signs," which DOESN'T sound so
>> much like The Police), Funk (even earlier: witness "Cinderella Man" -- that
>> tune's older than the Chili Peppers and Fishbone), Jazz (all over the place,
>> particularly in terms of chordal structure), Country ("Cold Fire"), World
>> (check out Neil's Playing on "Heresy"). They pioneer, to my way of
>> thinking...but not to everyone's. And the quote above is clearly expressive
>> on the dominant opinion of Orthodox proggers (which is why I've waged my
>> share of wars on a.m.p. and r.m.p.).
>
>And the quote that I stated is lifted right off of a.m.p and r.m.p. Rush
was a band
>that I could get into from a rock radio background that introduced me to
new musical
>ideas, which eventually lead me to prog. I agree that they tended to add
the "edge"
>missing in many of the bands (though I have always thought of Yes in the
mid-1970s as
>being kinda heavy at times, as well as King Crimson)
You're absolutely right. What I gave you is MY response to the comments you
put up there. I'd say the majority of people on a.m.p./r.m.p. agree with
the argument in your first message. Rush is, far and away, my favorite
band, hence my comments....I think the criticism in unfounded. I spent
something like four months last year on a.m.p. defending Rush against a few
hardline critics. We went hither and yon with it -- talking about Varese
and Zappa, Foucault and Derrida, Simon and Garfunkel, Metallica and Maiden,
"The Din Drum" and "The Grapes Of Wrath." Getting down to brass tacks, I
didn't feel like saying that "Hemispheres" was silly and immature was valid
if the first two minutes of "Close To The Edge" weren't the same. And I was
countered with the notion that I'm just plain missing the boat if I thought
a piece of music as sublime as "Close To The Edge" had any relationship to
an underdeveloped, simplistic piece of music like "Hemipheres." After that,
we could go no farther.
>From: Bradley Spare <bradley@ucsd.edu>
>"All animals are created equal but animals are more equal than others."
> - can anyone name that quote?
Charles Darwin -- 150 years ago.
Adam D. Barnhart
adamb@cfmc.com
ydnt85a@prodigy.com
Five Gratutitous CD's:
======================
1. Metallica -- Load (It's back...)
2. Yes -- Big Generator
3. Cynic -- Focus
4. Tori Amos -- Crucify
5. Rush -- Fly By Night
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Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 18:26:25 -0400
From: jestok@interlog.com (Mike Estok)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: message to Portland 'jammers
Message-ID: <199607092225.SAA02455@gold.interlog.com>
Ouch. I was gone for 10 days and I have 30 'jams. I've got a lot
of catching up to do.
I have a question for any 'jammers that live in Portland, OR. I am
moving there, and I have a problem. If anyone here can e-mail me privately,
I would be very appreciative. It shouldn't be a very hard question either.
So, I was flying on United Airlines and I was reading their aptly
named magazine "Hemispheres". I was looking at the chart for radio stations
and <boom> channel 15 is dedicated to "progressive rock". I flipped out, I
was so excited.
But of course their prog includes: Presidents of the USA, Blind
Melon and G n' R. I don't think so.
I also saw LiT for the first time. It made me realize why Dream
Theater isn't popular -- their pants (and their hair too). Everyone else
who was in the room with me got scared and ran away as soon as they started
UAGM, just because of how they looked. I know image shouldn't matter in
music, but it does to many - therefore DT isn't popular.
That's it.
Michelob
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Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 16:49:44 -0700
From: Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Quake.
Message-ID: <199607092349.QAA26975@maple.enet.net>
>Now all us Quake Awakers need is is the guy who did the Doom2 DT level
>(.wad) is do a Quake Awake level! And make sure it only plays the heavy
>songs on Awake! Anyone other than me think that this is an ingenious idea?
Most likely not..the only reason that Quake plays random tracks is because
the registered version is played from a CD, and the game picks tracks from
that CD that correspond to whatever level you're playing. The fact that it
only plays heavy Awake songs is a coincidence. I've noticed that it picks
the same "random" tracks everytime.
>Geez...some people really need a hobby...
MIDGET TOSSING!!!!!!!
And on the seventh day he.....MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
Ben Laussade
laussade@enet.net -or- ytse-ben@dreamt.org
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/7874/
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Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 19:57:09 -0400
From: Mark Metzger <mmetzger@bostech.com>
To: "'(Ytsejam)'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: MIME crap and disks to sell ....
Message-ID: <01BB6DD0.D3B1F160@meridian.btrd.bostech.com>
Much to my horror, I have found out that I was one of the people who "sent"
a garbage post to the jam. I want to assure everyone that this was not of
malicious intent. To make matters even worse, the "message", which was
sent on my behalf, to the jam was sent spontaneously. In other words, I
have not posted to the jam in well over a week yet to my surprise this AM,
lo and behold there was a posting from myself. (Should I quit drinking
......... hell no !!! I didn't post it ........ really ........ did I ??
....... ugh).
Anyhow, thanks to fellow jammer Paul Goracke, I have received information
on how I possibly could remedy this situation. I have made the necessary
adjustments and hope that things are OK. This message is partly a test.
If this does not fix things, I promise to unsubscribe for a while until
things are fixed.
Separately, for an amazingly low $6 per disk (US postpaid), I have the
following CDs that I will sell. All of these come under the pre-verbial
"Bought it unheard" category. They are all great disks. Trust me.
Broaden your horizons. All eight for $40 (US postpaid).
Thought Industry = Outer Space
Stones = Exile on Main St.
Anthrax = Stomp 442
UK = Danger Money (note: on MP fave list)
White Zombie = Astro Creep
AIC = New Disk (neat yellow glow in the dark cover)
RHCP = One Hot Minute
Testament = The Ritual
BTW, the "new" CD from Threshold which is really a re-release of a disk
from 1993 is definately in the same league as their newer disk; to me, its
better. Sorry I forget both names. If you like one, I would go for the
other.
Congrats to Bernd !!!
Later,
Mark Metzger
mmetzger@bostech.com
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Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 19:56:06 -0400
From: Mark Metzger <mmetzger@bostech.com>
To: "'(Ytsejam)'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: MIME crap and disks to sell ....
Message-ID: <01BB6DD0.AB7DE3C0@meridian.btrd.bostech.com>
Much to my horror, I have found out that I was one of the people who =
"sent" a garbage post to the jam. I want to assure everyone that this =
was not of malicious intent. To make matters even worse, the "message", =
which was sent on my behalf, to the jam was sent spontaneously. In =
other words, I have not posted to the jam in well over a week yet to my =
surprise this AM, lo and behold there was a posting from myself. =
(Should I quit drinking .......... hell no !!! I didn't post it =
....... really ........ did I ?? ........ ugh). =20
Anyhow, thanks to fellow jammer Paul Goracke, I have received =
information on how I possibly could remedy this situation. I have made =
the necessary adjustments and hope that things are OK. This message is =
partly a test. If this does not fix things, I promise to unsubscribe =
for a while until things are fixed. =20
Separately, for an amazingly low $6 per disk (US postpaid), I have the =
following CDs that I will sell. All of these come under the pre-verbial =
"Bought it unheard" category. They are all great disks. Trust me. =
Broaden your horizons. All eight for $40 (US postpaid). =20
Thought Industry =3D Outer Space
Stones =3D Exile on Main St.
Anthrax =3D Stomp 442
UK =3D Danger Money (note: on MP fave list)
White Zombie =3D Astro Creep
AIC =3D New Disk (neat yellow glow in the dark cover)
RHCP =3D One Hot Minute
Testament =3D The Ritual
BTW, the "new" CD from Threshold which is really a re-release of a disk =
from 1993 is definately in the same league as their newer disk; to me, =
its better. Sorry I forget both names. If you like one, I would go for =
the other. =20
Congrats to Bernd !!!
Later,
Mark Metzger
mmetzger@bostech.com
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Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 20:28:00, -0500
From: FMTG05A@prodigy.com (MR ANTHONY L SCIAMANNA SR)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: new prog. band CLOCKWORK
Message-ID: <199607100028.UAA15872@mime3.prodigy.com>
This is my first post on the jam. I've only been on ystejam for a
week but have been a DT fan for about four years now. I'm in a prog.
rock/metal band that is starting to receive some label interest. If
any of you guys are interested in hearing my band just e-mail me and
I'll send you a tape.
Anthony Sciamanna
FMTG05A@prodigy.com
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Date: Tue, 09 Jul 96 14:29:27 PST
From: mrkizer@CCGATE.HAC.COM
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Das Boots...
Message-ID: <9606098369.AA836959390@CCGATE.HAC.COM>
I was checking out the KTS web page (http://www.kts.it) and saw that
they have 3 DT boots. I was wondering which of these has the best
sound quality/bang for the buck. Opinions?
Dream Out Loud (93)
Lords of Sound (93)
Mind Control (95)
Also, if anybody knows anything about the 2 Rush boots they had, let
me know:
Run From The Fans (92)
Northern Heroes (94)
Tanks!
.~~~~~~~ Michael Kizer -- Computer Sciences Corporation (Tucson, AZ) ~~~~~~~.
| Email: mrkizer@ccgate.hac.com (preferred) -or- mkizer@indirect.com |
| WWW: http://www.indirect.com/www/mkizer <--- Dream Theater Song Book here!|
'~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~'
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Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 21:49:29 -0400
From: Dave Hatlee <buster@ee.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1679
Message-ID: <31E30C29.47D1@ee.net>
> Now all us Quake Awakers need is is the guy who did the Doom2 DT level
> (.wad) is do a Quake Awake level! And make sure it only plays the heavy
> songs on Awake! Anyone other than me think that this is an ingenious idea?
> ====================
> | -=Jeremy Hyde=- |
> | aka |
> | -=Tempus=- |
> ====================
You're really scaring me now Tempus! :)
I'm the guy who made the DT Doom2 level, and it took somewhere between
40 - 50 hours to complete! Not only that, but in the beginning, it took
me about 72 hours to learn how to make my own Doom2 levels correctly!
For me to learn Quake and learn to make levels for it, then create a DT
level for it would be absolutely devastating to the small portion of grey
matter I have left in my head. As some of you know, I'm working 2 jobs and
don't even have time to make Doom2 stuff anymore, so as much as I hate to
admit it, the odds are that I won't be doing anything for Quake :(
HOWEVER; I WOULD like to create another DT Doom2 level in "Awake" mode.
I hope to find the time to start this project in the next month, but we'd
be looking at September completion time. *IF* enough Jammers are interested
in this idea, I will wipe the dust off my BFG and begin work on this project.
To be honest, I've been waiting for a good excuse to screw off again, and I
can think of no better excuse than creating another DT tribute/collectors item.
The original Dream Theater level solicited over 250 requests via email, and that
in itself made the project worthwhile. I'm not expecting personal requests for
this, but I'll be guaging the interest level in here. Let's see how this pans out...
Dave Hatlee
buster@ee.net
http://users1.ee.net/buster "When Dream and Doom Unite!"
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Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 21:56:57 -0400
From: SaVeur <saveur@cais.cais.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Quake
Message-ID: <199607100156.VAA19693@cais.cais.com>
>>Now all us Quake Awakers need is is the guy who did the Doom2 DT level
>>(.wad) is do a Quake Awake level! And make sure it only plays the heavy
>>songs on Awake! Anyone other than me think that this is an ingenious idea?
>
>Most likely not..the only reason that Quake plays random tracks is because
>the registered version is played from a CD, and the game picks tracks from
>that CD that correspond to whatever level you're playing. The fact that it
>only plays heavy Awake songs is a coincidence. I've noticed that it picks
>the same "random" tracks everytime.
the tracks aren't random. the game triggers different tracks at specific
times --i can't wait to hear wut Trent comes up w/. so if the level editor
let's u pick the tracks and times, it should be pretty easy. a DT deathmatch
level would rok. we could play a few rounds, and jump back and forth from
irc. in fact, i'm trying to get the boss to setup a server at work :)
btw, all the Pantera discs are good to play to. i've got Cowboys from Hell
in right now ;)
fraggin,
j o h n s a v e u r @ c a i s . c o m
e
n
s h t t p : / / w w w . s i t e . g m u . e d u / ~ j j e n s /
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Date: Tue, 9 Jul 96 20:22:44 PDT
From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mime mail, Mithrandir on drugs, Superior's great! ('nuff said)
Message-ID: <9607100322.AA16983@tengs1>
>
> From: Sensory Overload <slowhand@wam.umd.edu>
>
> STOP the UUENCODED/WINMAIL! PLEASE! :)
Actually, I've been analyzing this. Hidden within the messages is
a COUNTDOWN. Yes, They (only They know who They are) are using our
own email system against us. Turn off your computers and flee to the
mountains, *quickly*, you don't have much time...
> From: Mithrandir <mithrandir@pb.net>
>
>
> The voting is done. The Star Destroyer won the battle in space over
> the Enterprise by a margin of 19-4 I thank everyone who participated,
> you're input was greatly appreciated.
>
> Go see Independence day if you have not all ready. I still think a
> Star Destroyer would defeat one of the alien crafts, and the "Executioner"
> could take out the mother ship. If that could not than the Death Star
> could(The one that was destroyed in ROTJ)
Mithrandir, you've GOT to be on crack! The smaller (relative term) ID4
ships could withstand a *fusion* bomb at ground (air?) zero without any
ill effects (not to mention that the EMF didn't seem to interfere with
anything). The stupid Star Destoyer in ROTJ was destroyed *shields up*
by an out-of-control X-Wing hitting the bridge section. Also, without
that remote shield-generator (which could easily be taken out by a small
attack force of ID4 fighters, or one of the "smaller" ships), _small_ fighter
ship fire damages the surface of the Death Star. Besides, the ID4 mother
ship is probably as big as the Death Star, or near so; and, the DS has
to have it's target within a certain radius of the firing mechanism to
hit anything. A few ID4 ships from behind would easily waste the DT.
Sorry, to post this to the list, but I feel there's *no* debate, so the
subject is ended here.
Search your feelings Mithrandir, you KNOW it to be true!
> From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
> >S U P E R I O R I S A S I G N E D B A N D N O W
> >!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> awwwwwrriigghttt Bernd!! just one question- what are you doing writing
> e-mail to us when you should be PARTYING! ;) /me makes plans in advance
> to go to the record store in sept. to pick up their first signed release
If the debute is any indication, then the new one should kick major ass.
I've only had a chance to listen to it once through, but there's not a
throwaway song on there. Kind of reminds me of Threshold in places...
> From: "Brian K. Adams" <aa467@seorf.ohiou.edu>
>
> >what was that that Rodney King said?
>
> Ouch!
I think he really said, "Ouch! You stupid f*ckin' PIGS, yeah, I OWN
all your asses now!!! Do it again! DAMN, that hurt! You just bought
my momma a condominium, fool!"
Zach
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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 00:26:34 -0400
From: ai292@freenet.carleton.ca (Gordon McFee)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1672
Message-ID: <199607100426.AAA15964@freenet3.carleton.ca>
>> BTW I saw this debate before, but what about Jethro Tull as
>>progressive? Opinions?
>
>Yeah, I think a good deal of people consider Tull prog. In fact, a while
>back there was a top 50 prog albums of all time survey done on
>alt.music.prog (the forerunner to r.m.p.), and Tull collected 2 spots with
>_Aqualung_ and _Thick as a Brick_, can't remember the rankings, tho'.
>Likewise, _I&W_ is on there, but I can't remember where. Ah hell, I'll just
>go get the list and send it.
Actually if you could (or e-mail it to me) I would be most
appreciative.. I was a baseball fan from quite young so I love stats :).
>> Ah, yes, the love of progressive fans to put unknown music at the
>>top. This is, I guess, for the same reason that paintings of vaginas are
>>hailed as genius and sell for millions. I guess I just don't "get it" :).
>
>I'm not quite sure what you mean hear. Surely you're not saying that
>great music=great sales? God knows, we've been down that path before. :)
>BTW, if vagina paintings are genius, then how about the dude who cut a cow
>and called it art? (No, there is no punchline)
A lot of people who like obscure music like it BECAUSE it is
obscure and not because it is necessarily any good. The same attitude is
prevalent in visual art. As a National Capital student (Ottawa, not D.C.
you fools <G>) who has been forced to go to the National Art Gallery
numerous times I can attest to the fact that what the art people "in the
know" consider art is usually crap to the average person. I just found it
interesting to see the same thing popular music. If this is going too far
just forget it :).
-- "To seek the sacred river Alph, and walk the caves of ice..." - Rush "Ashes and Diamonds,Foe and Friend/We were all equal in the end." -Pink Floyd "The sands of time were eroded by the river of constant change." - Genesis "Others steal your thoughts they're not confined within your mind"-DreamTheater------------------------------
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 00:29:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Aladdin <jc309@columbia.edu> To: The BafuJam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Tickets to the YtseCon III Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.94L.960710002012.20815H-100000@merhaba.cc.columbia.edu>
Dear jammers,
Hey there! Just wanted to let you know that we are now accepting checks for pre-paid admission to the YtseCon III. The pre-paid price is $20 per person. Howver, if you pay at the door, it will be $25 per person. I set up an account for the convention, so you can write your checks out to:
YtseCon III
and send it to:
Jeff Chew 350 Broadway, suite 703 New York, NY 10013
When you send the check, please include something that says your name, e-mail address, phone number (optional), and the number of people you plan on bringing along (well, it'll be obvious by the amount of the check).
Also, to remind you, we are also now accepting checks for hotel rooms if you plan on staying at the La Guardia MArriot. It's $100 per room per night, but you can always split a room with a ytsejammer (it'll probably be more fun that way anyway). Send checks to the same address above, and also make the check out to 'YtseCon III'. However, if you do plan on reserving a room, I'd prefer if you leave your phone number so I can contact you for any reason.
If you need airfare, Rich Worldwide Travel can book you on a flight if you call at 1-800-431-1130. Just say that you are going to the 'Dream Theater Convention'. They'll know what you're talking about.
Well, that's all from here! I hope to hear from you, TTYL!
Yours, Jeff =)
<*> Jeff Chew <*> http://www.columbia.edu/~jc309/ <*> <*> jc309@columbia.edu <*> jeffc@dreamt.org <*> jchew@rsabbs.com <*> <*> (516) 674-4828 <*> Work (212) 442-0041 <*> Beeper (917) 712-4828 <*> "Aladdin! You just won the heart of the princess! What are you gonna do next?" --- Genie, Disney's Aladdin
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