YTSEJAM Digest 1706
Today's Topics:
1) Radio Stations/Savatage
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
2) Magna Carta Shit....
by "Frank Benenati" <mojonet@pb.net>
3) K and W
by btomko@main.glasscity.net
4) Mike Bahr Magic Cards
by bwrights@dnaent.com (Bill Wrightson)
5) Inviting contradicion? I am!
by Jeremy Hyde <tempus@allinux1.alliance.net>
6) Judas Priest tribute
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
7) IRC, Rush trib, etc...
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
8)
by John McCabe <caber1@cris.com>
9) ****YOU CAN WIN A (boot) CD by Dream Theater****
by market@clubmet.metrobbs.com
10) Foundations Forum '94 / CD Set
by Olaf Bode <100734.3240@CompuServe.COM>
11) RUSH TRIBUTE
by NUPRIN <nuprin@wichita.fn.net>
12) AFIL sequence in Live Intokyo
by kurt@fgallery.com
13) Marty Friedman & GC
by Nathan Bradley~ <nbradley@sedona.intel.com>
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Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 10:34:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Radio Stations/Savatage
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960722103056.17166G-100000@bdmserver>
Dave King wrote:
>>I think it should be "KYJM". Though that does kind of have
>>a sick connotation, if you know what I mean...
>
>Sorry but I've always wondered why all the stations start with a K or W,
>etc. Could anyone enlighten me on this?
I think it is because all stations east of the Missisippi River start
with a W and west of the MIssisippi start with a K.
Why? I dont know....
Savatage HOR vs EOT
I prefer HOR more than EOT (barely). Both are great cds but I just
prefer Alex Skolnicks playing on EOT. Of course the song Chance is
incredible on HOR.
I guess I can thank eMpTyV for getting me into Savatage. Afterall it was
the video Edge of Thorns that I saw on headbanger's ball that forced me
to get the cd...
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| Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com |
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| "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater |
| "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files |
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|The Baltimore Orioles-The team to beat in 1996!!!!!!! | Go DC United! |
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Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 10:53:03 -0400
From: "Frank Benenati" <mojonet@pb.net>
To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Magna Carta Shit....
Message-ID: <199607221455.HAA00902@mindcrime.ax.com>
Attention Long Island Jammers:
If you are wondering where to get Magna Carta stuff.....
Give Music Arcade (In Westbury) a call....
they stock all of the Magna Carta tribute albums....
And knowing the guy who orders for Music Arcade is a BIG rush fan....
I'm sure they'll have lotsa copies of the Rush tribute....
C Ya....
M O J O M A N!!!
Senor Cahill donde esta tu golf clubs!????
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Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 11:01:59 -0400
From: btomko@main.glasscity.net
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: K and W
Message-ID: <B0000243209@home.glasscity.net>
All radio and TV stations in the USA are assigned radio call signs
by the FCC. The first letter indicates the country of origin for the
station. The USA has been given the letters W and K to open their call
signs. This system was implemented by some international communications
commission as a way to keep track of other stations.
Mark Tomko
spector@dreamt.org
-or-
btomko@main.glasscity.net
"Jaco was astonished, Tony Levin thought me mad..."
"They sat awhile in silence, then they turned at last to me. We will call
you Spector; the god of Low Notes you shall be...."
-Rush
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Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 08:36:00 -0500
From: bwrights@dnaent.com (Bill Wrightson)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mike Bahr Magic Cards
Message-ID: <199607221336.IAA27150@renner.dnaent.com>
I got my Critical Mass CD Friday (One Hell of a job Mike !!!!!) and it came
with 2 magic cards. Since I don't play this game, they are up for grabs.
Bill
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Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 12:15:26 -0700
From: Jeremy Hyde <tempus@allinux1.alliance.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Inviting contradicion? I am!
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19960722191526.00664700@mail.alliance.net>
This is just a reply thingy, so if you hate replies, skip this ;)
>Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 18:53:43 -0400 (EDT)
>From: Galactic Cowboy <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
>Subject: Queensryche bootleg/Critical Mass
>
>I got Critical Mass the other day. it rocks. So go get a copy.
Did I tell everyone that I was at that show? I know I did to everyone on
IRC. Yup, I had perfect seats as well. You guys suck, cuz you had to get
the boot to experience it. Losers. :)
Now here's everyone's favorite Dutch jammer...
>Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 01:56:35 +-200
>From: Mark Bredius <bredius@GlobalXS.nl>
>Subject: pIRCh - Bio's... NDTC
>
>Just a thought... pIRCh has a cool option that allows people to
>exchange BIO's. Wouldn't it be cool if all of us IRC-Jammers started
>using pIRCh and put together their own little bio (preferably with a
>picture). Instead of having to check out IRC-pages on the WWW, we
>could simply DCC each other our Bio's. We could even store them on
>some FTP-site or put them on a www-page for downloading. We could
>use our pIRCh Bio-viewer option to see who we're talking to, without
>having to check some www-page or a picture on your harddisk...
>Like I said... it's just a though... but *I* like it :)
>(Of course, I realize not everyone will be able to use pIRCh to chat)
Ahh, yes, you are so very correct. These bios are a much better alternative
(oh sin of all sins!) to going to their page and finding out about them. Of
course not everyone has a scanner :(
>Get yer copy of pIRCh @ http://www.bcpl.lib.md.us/~frappa/pirch.html
Yeah, get it now, dammit!
And here's everyone's favorite Canadian jammer...
>From: rterry@inforamp.net (Rick Terry)
>Subject: DT tribute thoughts, Ben the Geek, Vocal range and smoking,
Playing high and it's effects on your music
>>Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 14:00:41 -0700 (PDT)
>>From: Scott Luttringer <95fa467@dvc.edu>
>
>> This message is regarding the Jam DT tribute. If people are seriously
>>considering getting people from all over to collaborate, I would suggest
>>that demo tapes of that person's ability on their instrument (or voice)
>>be submitted to a panel of ytsejudges (or something like that).
>> Secondly, I would be happy to head up this committee should we
>>choose to go through with this idea. That's about all..... Talk to you
>>kids later.
/me feels like he's not gonna be in this 'jammer DT tribute :(
>
> Alright! Another Jammer jumps on board. However, I have some
>concerns about this approach.
> While we want this thing to have a certain degree of flash to
>it, the goal is to allow, to my understanding, all the Jammers to
>participate if they are so inclined. After all, not everyone who
>listens to DT may be musically gifted, but he or she may have
>something to contribute in the way of an interpretation of a passage.
> Besides, I don't think I would want to be the one to tell
>someone, "Sorry, you're just not good enough to be recorded." I have
>been rejected at auditions in the Toronto area and it's not a pleasant
>experience. Granted it's a risk in competition, but it still hurts.
Exactly, man. I've gone through so much shit trying to get a damn
band together that I've thought about actually giving up bass, singing, and
listening to music altogether. Fortunately (or unfortunately) I have gotten
that bunch of nonsense out of my head (at least for the moment). Now, this
whole judging thing would do the same thing to about 100 jammers (approx).
I, myself, would fear a few really critical jammers being on this panel of
"judges." I'm not going to name names, but you know who you are.
> Also, how could we vote on a panel of judges without knowing
>if they were truly qualified to make these decisions?
> I'm just afraid that someone who is a hardcore fan of the band
>will be left out.
> It would be a true tragedy if we were united on a cause and
>then split into participants and observers, particularly in an online
>family where we all have the right to participate.
Right on, man.
> I think a practical plan, should this go ahead, would be to
>let anyone take a stab at it who is so inclined. After all, we're not
>looking at world wide release for this. :) If Mike Bahr wants to do a
>limited CD run of it, it would be a wonderful souvenir of our
>membership in the Jam. Even if we just mix to metal cassettes, it
>would still be great. It could be a Jammers only thing which might
>make it a collectible in itself. In addition, I would propose that
>copies be presented to the band officially at a CON.
I personally think that the tapes idea is far better, because one
can only fit so much on one CD. Thus, leaving people out.
That's all from me...at least for now.
"Damn you, let the rabbits wear glasses!"
-Tool
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| -=Jeremy Hyde=- |
| aka |
| -=Tempus=- |
|tempus@alliance.net|
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Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 12:24:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Judas Priest tribute
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960722121915.20526A-100000@bdmserver>
Here is the list of tracks from the US release via www.centurymedia.com
Tracks:=20
1. Helloween The Hellion / Electric Eye=20
2. Fates Warning Saints In Hell=20
3. Gamma Ray Victim Of Changes=20
4. Devin Townsend Sinner=20
5. Mercyful Fate The Ripper=20
6. Rage Jawbreaker=20
7. Radakka Night Crawler=20
8. Doom Squad Burnin=ABUp=20
9. Lions Share A Touch Of Evil=20
10. Testament Rapid Fire=20
11. U.D.O. Metal Gods=20
12. Saxon You've God Another Thing Comin'=20
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| Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com |
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| "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater |
| "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files |
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|The Baltimore Orioles-The team to beat in 1996!!!!!!! | Go DC United! |
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Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 13:00:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: IRC, Rush trib, etc...
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9607221229.A7999-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
> From: "Matthew A. Schnoor" <schnoor@cs.pdx.edu>
> Subject: Sledge's post in JAM 1704
>
> I'm not SKADZ and I'm not in power over the IRC server... but my best
> guess to why you were K-lined (if in fact you were K-lined, not simply
> banned from the channel) is because you deserved it. The IRC server is
> something that Skadz set up as a privilege, for people on the JAM to come
> and converse intelligently. His decision is final, and if he decides to
> K-line you, I'm all for it.
Just for the record, I was the one that banned Sledge. I can deal with
people that don't want to have a conversation, but merely show off their
alias-writing ability. I can deal with people that think it's fun to
insult people and disrupt conversations.
But IRC use - and especially channel operator status - is a privilege.
If you're going to abuse what little power Skadz gives you, so be it.
But I will use what little power I have to protect the channel from
people that seem like they're trying to sabotage it.
I don't really care if you feel like acting like a dick. That's your
right. But you were out of line.
----> From: part@dutccia.tudelft.nl (Gerralt Partiman) > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1704 > > Anyone knows a DT-channel on IRC? > Thanks, GErralt.
Sure. Connect to irc server itc.dreamt.org port 2112. With most systems, the command is:
/server irc.dreamt.org 2112
Than, join the ytsejam channel with the command
/join #ytsejam
That's it! We should all be there!
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> From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com> > Subject: new cds
Daugherty Dude on the Rush Tribute:
> Merlo Man on the Rush tribute: > >You know, some people just aggravate me. I went to a Strawberries about > >a week ago, and asked the guy about the trib and about Magna Carta in > >general. He went into the back, and came out saying, "Yup. We're going > >to have it. Definitely." A friend of mine goes in a few days later, and > >gets the response "Who?" I'm probably just going to wind up > >mail-ordering it. > > > >Bastards. > > I've found that record stores really suck and the only way to get cds > from no name labels is via mail order...
But you know, there's something so purely, organically exciting about buying a really good CD that you've been waiting for for a while, at a store, so that you can tell the clerk behind the counter what a dodo he is for not liking that stuff.
Oh, well.
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> From: Ryan_Rafaloff@tanagraphics.com (Ryan Rafaloff) > Subject: Looking for Magna Carta Rush Tribute > > Hey all, > > Since it seems that people are having trouble getting a straight answer from > various record stores, reguarding this project. > Therefore, it is in my best interest to mail order it as well (as well as > many other people). Could one of the 'jammers let me know where I can send > for it? Or perhaps someone on the list is selling the CD's > themselves.......Thanks
Yup. Here it is:
Magna Carta Suite 1820 208 East 51st Street New York, NY 10022 Add $5 per title for outside the U.S.
------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ Secretary cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu "@'/ ,. \`@" UVM Comp Sci Student Assn d-man@dreamt.org /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/ He's a digital man" - Peart
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Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 12:59:18 -0400 (EDT) From: John McCabe <caber1@cris.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Message-ID: <199607221659.MAA05631@darius.cris.com>
> I just heard about MuchMusic's new contest and it is damn interesting. > > It is open to any Canadian. Hey I get that channel but I live in the US. Oh, you Canadians are always trying to hold back us REAL Americans ;) ---- I'm going to have my own webpage up by the end of the month(hopefully)!! And I was thinking maybe I can showcase different bands! Prog bands that is!!! Uh, but one thing I want it to be _lesser_ known prog bands. So, if you're in a progressive band AND you have a tape, CD or something with your music on it mail it to me!! But first email me so I have an idea how many bands there will be. Maybe I could add a bands every week or some? I don't know, any of you have any suggestions on how I could do this? Any input would be welcomed!! Oh I just thought about this does someone have a site like this? I don't want to be a copycat! :)
John
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Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 13:00:30 -0500 From: market@clubmet.metrobbs.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: ****YOU CAN WIN A (boot) CD by Dream Theater**** Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.7.22.13.0.30.1074.1572@clubmet.metrobbs.com>
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Date: 22 Jul 96 15:15:30 EDT From: Olaf Bode <100734.3240@CompuServe.COM> To: ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Foundations Forum '94 / CD Set Message-ID: <960722191530_100734.3240_EHV139-1@CompuServe.COM>
Hello ,
if one of you is interested to trade or to buy the Original Promotional (four) CD Set from the Foundations Forum '94 ( FF9401/2/3/4) / DIDX 023613) send me a mail and we can work out the details.
(50 tracks from Fates Warning, White Zombie, Machine Head, Dream Theater, Paradise Lost, Frontline and many more)
variatio delectat!
Olaf
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Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 14:18:15 -0500 (CDT) From: NUPRIN <nuprin@wichita.fn.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: RUSH TRIBUTE Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.91.960722141712.12026A-100000@wichita.fn.net>
I called the local record store and the guy said that it IS coming out tomorrow and that he can get it for me, but not until the first week of August or so...but he *IS* ordering one for me...:) Can't wait!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ John Nguyen (aka NUPRIN) musican, artist, programmer, lover, parent http://www.feist.com/~nuprin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "...all I want is to have my peace of mind..." -- Boston ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 16:01:58 -0400 From: kurt@fgallery.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: AFIL sequence in Live Intokyo Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.7.22.-16.1.58.2916992174.315110@bbs.fgallery.com>
Hes not talking about the Pantera "by demons be driven" sample ..hes talking in AFrotune In lies,right before the Guitar solo,lights go out..and Mike and Jp do a snare/guitar part...and maybe it is a recorded sequence..if its not..well that can RE-RE-RE-RE-RE assure me that Dt just plain kicks ass.. :)
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Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 13:08:40 -0700 (MST) From: Nathan Bradley~ <nbradley@sedona.intel.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Marty Friedman & GC Message-ID: <9607222008.AA13824@knicks.ch.intel.com.ch.intel.com>
Jammers,
Last night I attended the Galactic Cowboys concert at the Mason Jar in Phoenix AZ, with Mike Bahr & Company. Needless to say the show was great!!! I am sure you will hear more about that later from Mike.
Marty Friedman appeared as a specail guest for a recently signed Metal Blade band called Wardog. As it turns out he and the drummer for Wardog used to be in a Maryland based band called "Deuce" about 14 years ago. Long before Cacophony and Hawaii.
Afterwards, I was able to talk to with for a while. He really dug the Jason Becker shirt I was wearing, and we talked about Jason and his latest release for a while.
I asked him about his latest release "True Obsessions" and if and when it will be released in the US. He said that he was able to get a record deal in Japan, but has not been able to to so in Europe and the US yet. He is working on it, and says it is difficult (even for him) to get a contract in the US.
Check out the "Marty Zone" home page at
http://sdcc8.ucsd.edu/~dgillen/mz.html
I guess that is about it.
later,
-- Nathan Bradley savaweb@winternet.com http://www.winternet.com/~savaweb/
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