YTSEJAM Digest 1730
Today's Topics:
1) STYX..no dt
by market@clubmet.metrobbs.com
2) Attitudes and Latitudes
by hawkeye7@ix.netcom.com (Larry Odneal)
3) LiT and other blurbs of blabber
by Bogie34@aol.com
4) KMF-DT?!?!?!?! (Not Literally ;P )
by BLevy@aol.com
5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1729
by John McCabe <caber1@cris.com>
6) LIMITED RUSH COMPILATION TAPES OFFER!
by Greg Slang <xanadu@buttercup.cybernex.net>
7) Re: Kiss at Madison Square Garden
by jbako@intercall.com (James Bako)
8) Looking for Love (No this is NOT a want-ad!!!) (unless you're interested!!)
by jestok@interlog.com (Mike Estok)
9) Dt Clinics..
by kurt@fgallery.com
10) Various questions
by Mithrandir <mithrandir@pb.net>
11) REAL CD collections!
by nishiki@juno.com (Aaron Silverman)
12) New Ytsejam Shirts
by Scotch <anthem@virginia.edu>
13) King's X show
by "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
14) LiT questions and ACOS samples
by Rajkai Piter <intcred@.ibm.net>
15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1724
by Mark Smeets <msmeets@ibm.net>
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 17:36:02 -0500
From: market@clubmet.metrobbs.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: STYX..no dt
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.7.30.-15.36.2.15571.13728@clubmet.metrobbs.com>
Hey
I just saw STYX the other night here in Kansas City. Good show.
I was sitting kinda far back..and wish I was closer. (oh well...)
It was a good show.
What exactly happend to the STYX drummer about a week or so ago?
Was it expected? (of his death)??
Take care,
todd s
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H T T P : / / W W W . D R E A M T . O R G
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(look in merchandising for the new DT sticker.
s
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 15:48:33 -0700
From: hawkeye7@ix.netcom.com (Larry Odneal)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Attitudes and Latitudes
Message-ID: <199607302248.PAA12841@dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com>
Alan Alder wrote:
>Subject: this list sucks
>
>When I suscribed to this list last year I tought that it was going to
>be something interesting......
>but now I can see that sucks, you only talk about shit, this is all
>crap.... and what I'm writing also sucks......
Well at least he got one thing right . . .
Then Brian wrote:
>That is what is great about the JAM, . . . . . etc.,
Weird, huh? These guys must be getting different Ytsejams! Cuz one
sucks and one is great! Or could it be somebody has a Bad Attitude?
Bye, Alan - we'll miss you - NOT!
Then Chris P. gently admonished Ben thusly:
>First off, prick boy, . . . You punk ass waste of time. . . . Again,
I see that you lack comprehension. . . . When you get your head out
>of your ass . . ., you wad of shit, . . .You don't get out much, do
you? . . . I don't see that I deserved to be flamed by this moron.
Well, well, well! Looks like somebody's been pissing in somebody's
Wheaties again!
About the JP clinic:
You NorthEasterners all suck! 8^)
How come JP and MP never hold clinics in really happenin' towns like
Oak Ridge, Tennessee? I'm stuck here for 2 years - don't they realize
that!?!
Sir Reality
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 18:57:55 -0400
From: Bogie34@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: LiT and other blurbs of blabber
Message-ID: <960730185237_373509302@emout12.mail.aol.com>
<<1. I don't speak English very well (shame on me) and can't figure out the=
words on LiT. Could you tell me what they are speaking about in the limo?>>
I haven't watched the video in about 2 months (Shame on me!) but if I recall
correctly, they were talking about who produced the album, "Images and
Words". They also talked about Jay Bernstein (or some name to that effect)
who played some wonderful impromptu solos for the end of "Another Day".
<<2. When the drum solo begins, there is a sample saying something (on ever=
y drum solo I've heard from Portnoy). Could you tell me what that is and wh=
ere from?>>
The sample is, "Let's gets ready to RUUUUMMMMMMMMMBLLLLLLLLLLE!!!!!" (Let's
get ready to RUMBLE!, that is.) If you've ever watched the WWF (World
Wrestling Federation), they have a wrestling event called the "Royal Rumble".
"Mean Gene" Okerlund used to say it before each rumble until he left for the
WCW.
<<3. Has anybody MIDI file (or the right transcription) for Queensryche's "=
Someone Else"? I think there is a lot of guitarist here and maybe they have
the tab for PL album. Is there a transcription in the tab book for this
song?>>
I haven't heard of a tab for the PL album and I'm a pretty die-hard QR fan.
(Sadly enough, I know the ASCII code for "". [That's ALT-152 to the rest
of you!]) Anyways, your best bet would be to join the Queensrche newsgroup
at:
rec.music.artists.queensryche.
I'm on that newsgroup and even though they whine and moan a lot about who's
better, DT or QR, a lot of the people on the newsgroup are very helpful. I'm
sure someone out there in Internet-land has been bored enough to make a MIDI
file of Someone Else?
Well, I hoped that I helped you with your troubles.
Take care everybody,
Bogie
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 19:02:22 -0400
From: BLevy@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: KMF-DT?!?!?!?! (Not Literally ;P )
Message-ID: <960730190217_373518018@emout10.mail.aol.com>
In a message dated 96-07-30 18:18:25 EDT, skadz wrote:
<< so how about a ..............
DT / KMFDM tour :)
WOOTIE!
>>
I'd be THERE in a heartbeat!!!!!!!!!
(KMFDM, Doin it again).
OK, Listenning to WSOU here DOES leave something to be desired, like info on
NON loud music. Like I read here that Marillion is ALSO releasing a new
album?? I was a big fan of them in the Fish days, and their last release
(Afraid of Sunlight) was VERY promising. Anyone heard their latest yet, or
is it even out yet??
I really wish I had something to say about DT, but alas, I have nothing new
to add. I appreciate the jam for highlighting otherwise unknown (to me)
bands that MAY appeal to me, and other news on Bands that I already like. So
when there is NO DTC, I think a lot of us can still have a lot of pertinent
things to share. Keep on JAMMING!
L8R,
Brian
In CD Player--Hit & Run Holiday-My Life With the Thrill Kill Kult
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 21:12:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: John McCabe <caber1@cris.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1729
Message-ID: <199607310112.VAA24974@darius.cris.com>
Chung Ng wrote:
>NY has a good station - WSOU!!!
Hey that's a NJ station!!! ;)
The self-proclaimed "Grand Master of the Ytsejam" typed:
>someone said in the last jam that John said something
>about having a Clinic or something in Rhode Island
>tommorrow if I understood correctly.
>
>Anyone have any detailz?
Well, he said it was this Wednesday. But he didn't say
where! :( If this helps the NYC one was hold at Manny's
Music. Maybe there is a Manny's in Prov. RI?
Chris Ptacek writes:
> Any of you who went to the Petrucci clinic.... did he mention if
>he's doing any midwest clinics? It's a long shot, but I have to ask.
Sorry, but all he said was he is going the RI. :(
>(until you lucky bastards got to go to a
>Petrucci clinic!)
/me is a lucky bastard!!
WOOHOO!! ;-)
Jon Byrne quoted(and that's about it):
>At 06:40 PM 7/29/96 -0700, Chris Ptacek wrote:
>> It seems according to some reliable sources that this tour is
>>next best thing to canned. It seems that the three wouldn't agree as
>>to playing times. They all wanted to headline. They wouldn't agree
>>to alternate or anything. This sort of bummed me out. I thought
>>they'd be above such petty concerns.
>
Jon, I think there's something wrong with your email program!
All I got was you quoting Chris? Do you know something else?
Any info would be welcomed!!
SubtleRage wrote:
>4. The Trees: Mike Baker - vocals, Brendt Allman - guitar, Chris Ingles -
> piano, Portnoy - drums, Sheehan - drums, Gary Wehrkamp - keys
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Hopefully that's a typo because Portnoy doesn't need ANY help drumming! :)
Jeff Stewart typed:
> I was wearing my Ytsejam shirt (courtesy of Jason Giles) the other
>day and noticed that it is starting to get worn out. Does anyone have any
>plans to do a new Ytsejam shirt in the near future? It's been over a year
>since the last ones were done (I think) and we've added quite a few new
>Jammers in that time so I figured we're about due. I'd undertake the task
>but, unfortunately, I don't have the time, cash, or the know-how (sp?) to
>get it done. Anyone?
Hey I need a Ytsejam T-shirt!! I don't even have a old raggy one!!! :)
Someone make just one Ytsejam T-shirt just for me!!! ;-)
Adam D. Barnhart wrote:
>1) John Myung is clearly way, way underrepresented in the pages of musician
>magazines. He's obviously a part of the first tier, a peer of guys like
>Jeff Berlin, Geddy Lee, Bill Laswell, Stu Hamm, and Michael Manring. His
>absence from these publications frankly baffles me. Ironic, though, for me,
>since I came to Dream Theater as a result of reading about the band in a
>Guitar World from 1990 (or early '91....can't remember the issue at the
>moment).
Does any know any other mags that John Myung has been in besides the
rare Bass Player appearences?
Adam also types:
>Five Gratuitous CD's:
>=====================
>3. Jaco Pastorius: Live In New York, Vol. 2
>5. Dream Theater: Awake
It's about time that your CD player played works of art!! Jaco and DT!!! ;-)
M E ! ! !
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 21:04:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: Greg Slang <xanadu@buttercup.cybernex.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: LIMITED RUSH COMPILATION TAPES OFFER!
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.91.960730210248.20242A-100000@buttercup.cybernex.net>
ATTENTION RUSH FANS!
Now that I got your attention, I wanted to inform you all of a Rush bootleg
compilation tape I'm currently offering. Sorry I'm crossing over to the
YTSEJAM, but the Rush mailing list is sensored which means my bootleg offer
could not be posted. I figured this would be the next best way to reach Ruch
fans without having to use USENET.
Anyhow, what I did was create a collection of rare and underplayed music
by Rush dating back to 1974 and containing at least one song from every
studio album. I'm calling this tape project "Universal Panacea" which I
feel is fitting. I've included such goodies as early unreleased singles, a
live cover, and pre-versions of songs before they were completed for use
on the albums. The rest are songs that were only included in one or two
setlists and then dropped forever. It's a true collectors item, as I am
only making 100 copies and handnumbering each of them. Just to make
myself clear, it is a double-cassette, not a CD! Although this may be a
bummer for some of you, it allowed me to include exactly 179 minutes of
material. You really get your moneys worth. The cost is $10 which will
cover the two Maxell XL-II tapes, computer generated tape jackets, shipping,
and packaging expenses. Very little is going to me. I've calculated what
I've already brought in and works out to be less than $4.00 / hour for my
efforts. I've already shipped roughly 30 copies thus far with another 50
reserved. This means I am only offering 20 more copies + the ones that
people reserved, but didn't follow up on. It will be gone and never offered
again after August 19th (when I go off to college).
If you want further info concerning the tracks, dates, ordering info, etc,
please e-mail me. I don't want to take up to much space here as it is
non-DT related. The address is xanadu@cybernex.net.
I'm looking forward to hearing from you!
-- Greg Slang, <xanadu@cybernex.net>
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 22:00:37 -0400 (EDT)
From: jbako@intercall.com (James Bako)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Kiss at Madison Square Garden
Message-ID: <199607310200.WAA19331@axe.intercall.com>
> Did anyone else see Kiss this past weekend in NYC? I went Sunday night
>(didn't even get the tickets until Sunday morning). I saw someone wearing a
>Dream Theater shirt (from the Home for the Holidays U.S. shows in December).
>I don't know if it was a list member or not. If you want to read my review of
>it, e-mail me privately, or look at www.otaku.net.kissotaku.html since I'm
>sending it there. I'm not sure if they will do anything with it.
>
>
> Jeff Falk
> King_of_the_Nighttime_World@msn.com
That was probably me. Yeah, I was wearing that shirt, and sitting in the
front row of Sec. 40.
Man, whatta show!!!
James Bako
jbako@intercall.com
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 22:14:08 -0400
From: jestok@interlog.com (Mike Estok)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Looking for Love (No this is NOT a want-ad!!!) (unless you're interested!!)
Message-ID: <199607310213.WAA22408@gold.interlog.com>
Wanna hear something that sucks? Earler I called the radio station
97.7 HTZ-FM and requested the fantastic new King's X single - Looking for Love.
The lady there was surprised. She DIDN'T KNOW that King's X even
had a new cd out!!! She wasn't aware of any single!! Even though the tour
date was officially announced yesterday, she had no idea!!!
She said she'll look for it, but she's not sure if she can find it.
I seriously doubt they'll play it :(
Required DTC: I am so excited for the new cd! The new songs
abbreviations may prove to be troublesome here on the 'jam. Examples:
LITS. People might think it is in fact "Lines in the Sand", others might
think multiple copies of the live video.
WAYN: Where are you now, or friends with GART?
AL: Anna Lee, might confuse baseball fans.
BMS: Burning my Soul, sounds like female menstrual condition.
Abbreviations, 'ya love to hate 'em!! (YLTHE)
Michelob
"Then so many times, you practice in your mirror, to be just like
me, but you just can't see, YOU AIN'T GOT THE BALLS SON!!"
ps. New pearl jam sucks!!
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 22:24:54 -0400
From: kurt@fgallery.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Dt Clinics..
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.7.30.-10.24.54.2916992174.318528@bbs.fgallery.com>
Hi..i envy you guys that can attend Jp's Or Mp's clinics...i mean ..last
year a local music shop brought Steve Vai to do a clinic..so since hes
Ibanez,well i have never lost my dream of JP doing a clinic here In
Puerto Rico,... it would rule..me and a couple of friends of mine(one of
them's in the jam) are considering the ytsecon...but it might be a bit
hard since im 17 and also a plane ticket to new york and back.hmm $$$$
well anyways.. oh..also i hope the RUsh tribute is released here.. cuz
iwant it
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 19:57:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mithrandir <mithrandir@pb.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Various questions
Message-ID: <199607310257.TAA01847@mindcrime.ax.com>
Hey "Joey they call me Ibanez" just what are you going to do with that
picture you took in N.Y.C. last night? My suggestion is to send a copy to
D-man, he likes that sort of thing.
Wild Kobayashi: That freak singing RUSH was none other than Dan Parilis,
the singer for a DT/RUSH type tribute band I am playing with. He really can
sing his ass off, can't he?
Elen sila lumenn omentilmo, Mithrandir
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 23:22:24 PST
From: nishiki@juno.com (Aaron Silverman)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: REAL CD collections!
Message-ID: <19960730.232227.10206.1.nishiki@juno.com>
Skadz said:
>>less guitar. I like it, but I like too much for my own
>>good :) (ask my 300+ CD collection :)
You must have some pretty picky tastes. . .I'm pretty close to 900
myself!
New pointless thread: Who on the 'Jam has the most CD's? The most of a
given type?
Sounds like I've backed myself into a corner here. . .OK, email me your
numbers & I'll
post the results! If you want, everybody can send me their number and
I'll make a chart or
something. Send to me with subject "CD Collection".
Is anyone planning on going to Prog Nite next Wednesday? Email me if you
want to hook
up there. If you haven't been, I highly recommend it! But bring cash
(or credit, if you're
feeling extra-dangerous)-- it's free to get in, but Dan Gibson has plenty
of interesting music
for sale.
Party on,
DJ Kuul A
nishiki@juno.com
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 23:24:53 -0400
From: Scotch <anthem@virginia.edu>
To: Dream Fiends <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: New Ytsejam Shirts
Message-ID: <v01540b02ae243933df69@7.liv3.arl.why.net>
> From: Jeff Stewart <stewaj01@condor.stcloud.msus.edu>
> Subject: Ytsejam Shirts
> I was wearing my Ytsejam shirt (courtesy of Jason Giles) the other
> day and noticed that it is starting to get worn out. Does anyone have any
> plans to do a new Ytsejam shirt in the near future?
Sure, I'll do it-- at this point I'm doing the design for the YtseCon
shirts, & I've been coming up with several different ideas for designs.
After I finish the Con shirt & send it off (& not before), I'll turn my
attention to a Ytsejam Shirt Version 2.0, using one of my alternate ideas.
Probably something a little more Psychedelic and Artsy than the old shirt.
Nothing too gawdy though.
So I'll do the art, and when I go back to school in a month, I'll scan it &
put it on my Web page, just to see if people like it and would actually
want to wear it.
I can't print up the shirts, though. If someone wants to undertake the
printing & the Dealing, let me know.
Art-Boy Scott.
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Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 00:56:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: King's X show
Message-ID: <199607310756.AA20460@crl11.crl.com>
I'm just back from the King's X/Galactic Cowboys show here. Excellent
shows by both bands, and an appreciative crowd much larger than I
expected. I don't have the new album yet (but plan to get it and any
other King's X I'm missing :)), so I won't try to do an in-depth
review.
They played for about 1 hr 45 min. and included all but one song from
EAR CANDY. They played the older songs you'd expect, and closed with
a Who cover -- not sure of the name, it's the song with the refrain
"I'm getting closer to my world." They went a little extra distance
for the crowd and they were clearly happy with the audience. The
crowd sang along perfectly to "Over My Head" with hand-claps alone
during the song for at least 3 minutes, and then a bit later started
it again between songs, to Doug and Ty's evident delight. I have the
feeling the Nashville crowd wasn't quite that into it.
Spotted in the audience was most of Early Warning and several
other local bands (alas, Early Warning is no more, either as EW
or their brief new incarnation, *sigh*; another decent prog band gone).
I spoke with Doug Pinnick before and after the show (and hung around
while he answered questions and expounded on various things :)). This
is their last record for Atlantic, who cut them loose from a 14-record
deal (!), so they're basically label-shopping. He implied this wasn't
their last tour. He also said right now is one of the happiest times
of his life. He also spoke at length about working with Sam Taylor
and then not working with Sam, which is one of the reasons why he's
happier now. :)
He was realllly cool to talk to. If you go see them
(and I recommend this show highly), try to get to the venue early or
late; Doug and Jerry G. both held court outside and signed
autographs for an hour before this show, and Doug was outside
afterward.
In brief: well-worth a mere $12. :)
-- Paul W. Cashman, vanyel@crl.com Rush Dream Theater Korn Bonedance --- www.crl.com/~vanyel ------ Metallica Hawkwind Enya Superior Mutha's Day Out Sisters of Mercy Dead Can Dance Blue Oyster Cult "You can find all you need in your mind / If you take the time.." -DT------------------------------
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 10:55:52 +0200 From: Rajkai Piter <intcred@.ibm.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: LiT questions and ACOS samples Message-ID: <31FF1F98.CA1@.ibm.net>
> Well this one I can answer without taking out LiT. :) It says "Let's > get ready to rumble". It is a phrase said when someone is about fight > someone. It is also used in Monster Truck shows. Mainly, it means get > ready!! ;) Hope this helps you out.
John, thanks for the info. I couldn't figure out that last word "rumble". I was wondering why they say "Let's get ready to Rambo". ;) Now I can tell our singer to say that when we play CIAW (the same version that's on Mind Control).
Is there anybody who could sample those phrases from "Dead poet's society" for me? I would be very glad since we play ACOS but I can get the movie only in Hungarian. I could send the samples to my synth via MIDI dump so I could play those samples live.
Peter
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 14:07:34 PST From: Mark Smeets <msmeets@ibm.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1724 Message-ID: <199607310918.JAA80117@pop01.ny.us.ibm.net>
** Reply to note from ytsejam@ax.com 07/27/96 10:02pm -0700
From: Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
>I don't care if you're Eddie Fucking Van Halen....God >didn't put a perfect metronome in anyones head!!!!
Who'd want eddy, I'd rather take Valeri Bertanelli :)
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Well, I finally got bcak on IRC, and it was great to be back, not like anyone remembers me on their which is fine :) For the guys that met me on there, the name's Stranger :) always is, always will be.
To all that I met on their, nice to meet ya, I wonder if that dude is gonna come back, I won't be so cruel next time either :)
Oh yea, to all that were on irc when I was there, os/2 rulz heheheheheheh :)
Mark Stranger on IRC or your worst nightmare if you piss him off
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