YTSEJAM Digest 1726
Today's Topics:
1) Hybrids, KX split!??, Ice cream treats, Tribute lists, Canadian radio, B&T progressive?
by rterry@inforamp.net (Rick Terry)
2) unsuscribe me
by storm@net.chasque.apc.org
3) Birth announcement
by rterry@inforamp.net (Rick Terry)
4) Re: FW (NDTC)
by "J. Christian Jens" <jjens@cais.com>
5) Sig mistakes.
by Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
6) Drummer joke.
by Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1725
by acook@tiac.net (acook)
8) dt faq
by WildKoba@aol.com
9) Superior babies and stuph =)
by Karri K Kiviluoma <kkiviluo@cc.hut.fi>
10) MP clinic in Columbus, Ohio!!
by dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld)
11) Re: John Petrucci's Sound....
by elliott@fxn.com (Elliott Kim)
12) Journey's new album release date
by tq0139@mail.doshisha.ac.jp (Keiji Nishihara)
13) TNT reunion!
by tq0139@mail.doshisha.ac.jp (Keiji Nishihara)
14) Man .....
by "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
15) Rush
by akyuz@ltp.dmx.epfl.ch
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Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 19:11:01 GMT
From: rterry@inforamp.net (Rick Terry)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Hybrids, KX split!??, Ice cream treats, Tribute lists, Canadian radio, B&T progressive?
Message-ID: <31fbb48b.1602711@mail.inforamp.net>
Dearm Theatre is cool! ;)
>Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 13:36:37 -0700
>From: Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
>Bazmer-Bar.....sounds like a record company....well, either that or a sex
>toy company.
It's a marital aid/dumbell hybrid. For those who like a true
sexual workout. ;)
>Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 16:52:16 -0500 (CDT)
>From: Brian Cox <lerxst@metronet.com>
>by the way, be sure to catch king's x on this tour, there is a very
>high chance it will be your last chance...
What!!! What's going on Brian? Are they being dropped by their
record company or splitting up?
>Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 19:16:58 -0700
>From: Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
>>Hold out Ben!! Don't let anyone make you wear those white
>>leather shoes!! ;)
>
>I won't....even thought it goes with my white leather jacket and white
>leather pants. <grin>
If you wear a dark brown shirt, you'll look like an inverted
ice cream sandwich. :)
>And, before I spam the jam or send something to the wrong person, where do I
>send the list of songs that I'm capable of covering for the Trib? To you,
>Dave, or to you, Rick?
I would offer to assist in the collection process, but I'm
just about to start my much deserved holidays and may be away from the
jam for a bit.
Therefore, I would suggest that Dave receive lists if he has
no objection.
Make no mistake though. If I can make it to wherever this is
being done, I WILL!!
Vocals are stronger for me on DTs stuff, so once we have an
idea of what we might be playing, I'll start rehearsing those songs
using a TASCAM setup and a vocal processor to remove James and insert
myself.
I am unable to get access to the 8 track digital equipment
that I mentioned earlier. :(
There is one other possibility, but I'm not counting on it at
this time.
One other thought comes to mind. Are we going to be adding
rhythm guitar tracks to any of this stuff to flush it out? If we play
"live" that will be a great assist in establishing the wall of sound.
>Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 00:47:20 -0400
>From: jestok@interlog.com (Mike Estok)
> A band in Hamilton looking for a drummer in vain of Dream Theater
>and Queensryche.
>
> The two hosts pause and then laugh and say "hehe, good luck!!
>Drummers like those do not come around very often!!"
What station was that Mike? I suspect it was CHTZ HTZ-FM out
of St. Catherines.
I'm surprised that they've even heard of DT!
> Uh, cool!! But, why the hell do they play Queensryche only once a
>week (usu. on request) and Dream Theater every two years then? Stupid,
>stupid, stupid!!
Because alternashit has taken over the Canadian airwaves. When
was the last time you heard any 80s metal played on the radio?
Look at Rush. This is Canada's longest surviving original
touring band. The get minimal airplay now. It's pathetic and is one of
the reasons I seldom listen to the radio.
In fact, I get more stuff from net recommendations than
anywhere else.
>Question of the day: Could Bill and Ted's band be considered progressive?
Nope. If brains were dynamite, those two wouldn't have enough
combined to blow their noses. :)
Cheers,
Rick
Toronto
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Date: Sun, 28 Jul 96 16:05:14 EST
From: storm@net.chasque.apc.org
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: unsuscribe me
Message-ID: <9607281605.D0389be@net.chasque.apc.org>
Look, i have deleted my password message...
so, i don' t have password, this is why i want you to unsubscribe me
>from your mailing lists
UNSUBSCRIBE ME PLEASE!!!
Storm@net.chasque.apc.org
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Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 19:26:20 GMT
From: rterry@inforamp.net (Rick Terry)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Birth announcement
Message-ID: <31fbbb64.3354819@mail.inforamp.net>
"You can make a fortune in lice!" - James advocating the sale of
cooties
>Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 22:26:33 +1000 (EST)
>From: Evan Thomson <930377@bud.cc.swin.edu.au>
>To: ytsejam@ax.com
>Subject: Babies (sort of DT related)...
>Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.960728222334.25574A-100000@bud.cc.swin.edu.au>
>
>Howdy all.
>
>Its 10:30pm and only 10 hours ago my wife delivered a beautiful baby girl.
>I had to share this with you guys. The name we have chosen is:
>
> Adara EVE
Congratulations to you both!
Make sure you monitor her personality development closely and
watch for the development of multiple faces. ;)
I hope mom and the little one are both well.
Cheers,
Rick
Toronto
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Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 15:50:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: "J. Christian Jens" <jjens@cais.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: FW (NDTC)
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.93.960728154533.24850A-100000@cais.cais.com>
On Sun, 28 Jul 1996, Cliff & Pam Wheaton wrote:
> Malstem "Rising Force" and Fates Warning: "Awaken the Guardien". Now , a question: where
> do I find lyrics for these? Someone please point me the right way. Thanx in advance. The
coming soon to a web browser near you: the new improved, John's Lame Fates
Warning page. including the lyrics for AtG :)
> other question: Awhile back, someone was using a ,sig that was the lyrics to Ivory Gate
> of Dreams. For some reason, I thought this was the album mentioned that it was on. Am I
> confused? Or what? If I'm incorrect, what album is this on? I'd really like to hear that
IGoD is on No Exit. lyrics can be found at a couple dif sites. goto
altavista.digital.com and search for it. and, of course, in a few more
days, they will be on the aforementioned, newly improved page of mine.
k, nuff plugs for one post. btw, 80 columns is helpful.
j o h n s a v e u r @ c a i s . c o m
e
n
s h t t p : / / w w w . s i t e . g m u . e d u / ~ j j e n s /
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Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 12:55:29 -0700
From: Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Sig mistakes.
Message-ID: <199607281955.MAA28590@maple.enet.net>
>Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm............
>
>Mark Laussade
Whoops. Accidentally left my dad's .sig on there. It was me posting that. ;-)
>Maybe we can get together beforehand!!!!
How come nobody ever gets together bebackhand?
Ben Laussade
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Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 12:55:31 -0700
From: Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Drummer joke.
Message-ID: <199607281955.MAA28595@maple.enet.net>
>Yeah, cuz guitars have notes. It's too confusing for drummers.
FYI, I play piano (quite well) and french horn too. :-)
Did you hear about the
>bassist who locked his keys in the car? It took two hours to get the
drummer out. :)
>
LOL! I gotta use that. <grin>
>Hi,just got my parallel's album from FW,a friend lent it to me,actually
>i took it from his desk, and i have to say its pretty cool,its cool
>to find that Labrie did background vocals on one song,but i cant still
>really notice him,
Whoa..he did? Which song?
>That's a good point. I think it's true to a certain point. However, I know
>plenty of people at my school who "play" guitar or bass and seem like
>they're into music and such, and their fave groups are Pearl Jam and
>Smashing Pumpkins and the like.
Besides being a mental thing where music isn't your top priority, it could
also just be as technical as the fact that they don't have the money to buy
lots of CD's of bands that they've never heard before. Could be the case
there. I like PJ and some SP, btw.
>>
>> So, do you guys think that a band who wrote and recorded an album
>>solely on the internet would get a lot of hype and/or money? If we had
>>proper advertising, of course...but do you think it would happen?
>>
>
>That would be lots and lots up uploaded and downloaded megs of files. We
>just don't have the resources or the equipment to do an album based on
>trading files on the net.
Ack ack ack! When I said that, I WASN'T talking about the tribute! I was
talking about Beefquad-X. :-) (.wav's are still available, which isn't that
surprising since you can make as many of them as you want.)
>Well you better be ready to make a hole in your wallet. Studio time is
>expensive. Recording requires time and money. No offense but I doubt you
>have much at 14.
Actually, I have lots of money coming to me in the next few months. Watching
neighbor's dog (they're RICH neighbors) for about $100, and going to be
designing a web page for somebody which could pay anywhere from $200 to
$1000. More, if he refers me to somebody else. Any other time you'd have
asked that, though, you'd be right...I'm poor a lot of the time. :-)
>So if you don't want to make a profit what are you planning
>on doing? Recording it, losing lots of money, and then spending more to make
>enough copies so everybody can have one?
Yes, actually. Depending on how much money I end up with, I'd help pay for
other Jammers to get to wherever we'd record this.
>Actually, it never happened to me (part A, that is) and never will now
>that I'm so friggin' old. I always had the exact reverse problem -
>delayed ejaculation. Takes forever, man.
Yikes. More stuff I didn't want to know about Larry. Me and my big mouth. :-)
(joking)
>If the recording doesn't happen at the 'Con, well . . . Viva Las Vegas!
>(Swivels hips while delaying ejaculation)
Okay, THAT was funny. <giggle>
>Is that supposed to be WEIRD or WIRED? 8-)
>
Well, I tried to combine those two words, but any way you do it it always
ends up as one of the words spelled correctly, or weird spelled incorrectly.
Ben Laussade
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Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 15:54:46 -0400
From: acook@tiac.net (acook)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1725
Message-ID: <199607281954.PAA10391@zork.tiac.net>
Heyo,
>: Awhile back, someone was using a ,sig that was the lyrics to Ivory Gate
>of Dreams. For some reason, I thought this was the album mentioned that it
was on. Am I
>confused? Or what? If I'm incorrect, what album is this on?
It's on No Exit which is the album after Awaken the Guardian. You were close
though :) missed it by one album...
>I'd really like to hear that
>song.Now, just from listening to this masterpiece (AtG)I gather that this
is a sort of
>concept album set in medievial times?
Well that's sort of what I thought too. So I asked Jon Arch (singer of
Fates, wrote the lyrics) himself! This was his response...
>Hi Adam,
>I'll do my best to describe the lyrics to ATG, At the time that album was
>written a lot of thrash and grunge was becoming popular, and personally
>I never really had a liking to the lyrical style of those types, and my goal
>was to write lyrics that had a positive message and that were challenging
>to the imagination. Although most of the lyrical and musical content are
>incorporated under the earlier FW mysical feel, I feel each song had a
>personal meaning for me,the cool thing about it is so many fans have
>come to me with their own interpretation of what each song ment to them
>and no two are alike, (mission acomplished), Fata morgana, a personal
>fantacy, Valley of the dolls, obviously about poser bands, giants lore ,
>My interpretation of what would make a good childrens story.Guardian
>was a dedication to my brother who is a parapaligic, and the many families
>who know the same pain, prelude to ruin, man being the cause of his own
>demise
>and our plan for the future, mixed with the absecnce of faith and the
>temptations
>of evil. I'll leave the others for your own imagination.It's scarry to know a
>lot of people lack imagination, like others lack common sense, on that
>note; thanks for asking, and I'm really glad you like it.
>
> take care, John
I think what John did was really cool. A lot of people criticize this type
of lyric writing for being about D&D and crap like that, but John used these
types of lyrics to be imaginative and still meaningful. I got the lyrics on
the web somewhere, you should be able to find them if you do a web search.
Adam Cook acook@tiac.bet visit me at, http://www.tiac.net/users/com (hard
hat construction area!)
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Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 16:35:51 -0400
From: WildKoba@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: dt faq
Message-ID: <960728163549_586782251@emout13.mail.aol.com>
i would appreciate it if someone were kind enough to send me the info on
where i can get the dt faq. i always lose the fucking address, moron i am.
thanks, and see y'all at the clinic tomorrow.
*****************************************************************
david kobayashi
the wild and magical koba
"i'm using the chicken to measure it." -some freak on "uncle meat".
"for 20 long years, i could not read music. but now, thanks to 'hooked on
phonics'...."- dean, screaming headless torsos.
*****************************************************************
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Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 02:08:19 +0300 (EET DST)
From: Karri K Kiviluoma <kkiviluo@cc.hut.fi>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Superior babies and stuph =)
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.93.960729014949.10731A-100000@lk-hp-13.hut.fi>
Heya all fellow yammerz!
Thank you Bernd and the other dudes for a GREAT cd! I've listened
it through for about 10 times in 3 days and I still haven't decided
which song I like the best/least! I love the piano sound and the
overall heaviness. The melodies on some songs just blow me away.
Could there be Queen influences in the last song, or am I imagi-
ning ? I seem to really like Michael's voice too (after getting
used to the german 'l's on earlier occasions ;) Great tone and
range. He uses singing high as I like it to be used: Occasionally
and for effect.
That's all Superior worship for now =). Just wanted to convince
the ones who haven't yet gotten this to do so ! One of the best
cd's I have and certainly the best in '96 so far...
> From: Evan Thomson <930377@bud.cc.swin.edu.au>
> Subject: Babies (sort of DT related)...
> Its 10:30pm and only 10 hours ago my wife delivered a beautiful baby girl.
> I had to share this with you guys. The name we have chosen is:
>
> Adara EVE
>
That's a VERY kewl name ! Not just the DT influence, but overall
too =). Congratulations, man !!!
...And that's all for another couple of months ! Keep it nice ! =)
Karri
kkiviluo@cc.hut.fi
PS. I hope Anna Lee is going to be a very special song. The reason
is that I have a pet peeve with songs named after the first name
of a woman. (Okies! Maybe a man too, but haven't seen many of
those around lately.)
PPS. Fear Finnish women with pointed sticks !! ;)
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Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 22:57:00 -0400
From: dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: MP clinic in Columbus, Ohio!!
Message-ID: <v01520d02ae218f3e2b91@[199.171.22.51]>
I just got back from Captiol University and the Mike Portnoy drum clinic!!
It was awesome...my '96 DT fix!!
Mike came out and first did a solo, and he threw the intro of "6:00" into a
bit of it...
He also drummed the instrumental section to Metropolis (pt.1), and he
played along with a track for Erotomania. For Met Pt1, there was no
background track, so a bunch of DT-fanatics (myself included) sung the keys
and guitar parts...coolness! MP got a kick out of that...
MP also highlighted two of the NEW songs- "Lines In The Sand" [14 mins] and
"You or Me" [6 mins]. YoM sounds "more accessible," compared to most DT
stuff- so hopefully they can get some more fan following with maybe some
more airplay. There's always hope...
The clinic was very informative. Really cool how he (and the rest of the
band) goes about writing parts for their songs. Another cool thing was
being in a room with about 125 (I'm guessing) DT fans!! Never been around
so many people who like DT (at one time)...can't wait for the '97 Tour!!
MP was sooooo cool!! Very nice guy. I asked him about the Rush Tribute
when he was signing my ACOS liner cover (complete with "carpe diem!" below
his name). He said that it was a blast to play on. He had to go back and
re-learn all of those songs that he grew up listening to. Can't wait until
Aug 6th...when it's *supposed* to come out in the States.
I meet Dave (Buster)- a fellow 'Jammer, and I guess he also created the DT
DOOM level...I don't know. I have a MacPerforma. Is it compatible with
the Mac DOOM software?? Where there any other 'Jammers there?
Dan
---+
Dan Temmesfeld --- email: dantemm@erinet.com
http://www.cedarville.edu/student/s1133627/gcowboys.htm
"Home of the Unofficial GALACTIC COWBOYS Page"
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Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 23:24:28 +0100
From: elliott@fxn.com (Elliott Kim)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: John Petrucci's Sound....
Message-ID: <19960728222427296.AAA436@ras7.fxn.com>
>I produce his sound remarkably well with a mesa boogie triaxis that blew my
>wallet away...lol (that is the pre amp he uses) but before i got that, i
>used to play through a ....
>
The Mesa Boogie Tri-Axis is JP's *LIVE* pre-amp. Granted, it's a fine piece
of equipment, but if you're somewhat big-time like DT, you're not going to
use rack units like that in the studio. The Tri-Axis + 2:90 power amp
combination is a logical choice since JP uses various Mesa Boogie heads and
cabinets in the studio.
-- Elliott Kim --------------------------------------------------------
--e l l i o t t @ f x n . c o m ----- E - M a n @ d r e a m t . o r g--
--h t t p : / / w w w . f x n . c o m / u s e r s / e / e l l i o t t--
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Date: Mon, 29 Jul 96 12:44:07 +0900
From: tq0139@mail.doshisha.ac.jp (Keiji Nishihara)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Journey's new album release date
Message-ID: <9607290344.AA04815@mail.doshisha.ac.jp>
Journey's new album "Trial By Fire" release date confirmed!
2nd Oct.1996!
Bye.
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Date: Mon, 29 Jul 96 13:06:53 +0900
From: tq0139@mail.doshisha.ac.jp (Keiji Nishihara)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: TNT reunion!
Message-ID: <9607290406.AA20784@mail.doshisha.ac.jp>
Re-united TNT dealt with JVC-Victor,and they already finished 4 track demo.
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Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 00:38:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Man .....
Message-ID: <199607290438.AAA23211@wicked.stigmata.org>
Hey all ....
I've just had one of those days ... actually one
of those weekends .... ugh.
A few quickies ....
First, can people please not quotes the whole damn
post when the reply to part of a message? I've noticed
this alot lately. Just quote the part that is relevant
to what you are posting :) Danke muchos :)
Second, Dr Teeth asked about the new KMFDM....
not exactly like Nihil. Alot more electronic, alot
less guitar. I like it, but I like too much for my own
good :) (ask my 300+ CD collection :)
Third, Someone replied to my post about the new
stickers, they are SHOULD be up on my web page by midday
tommorrow (Monday) you will no longer have to listen,
you can see. (PS -> They do sound really nice though ;)
That's all. My body hates me because I consumed
a bit too much alcohol this weekend (including today)
so I am gonna go to sleep now.
Night,
Skadz
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Ryan P Skadberg skadz@soundlogic.com
Internet / Network / Systems Consultant
Sound Logic Consulting New Media Communications
http://www.soundlogic.com http://www.mindstorm.com
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nothing can stop me now cause i don't care anymore - nin
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Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 09:28:19 +0200
From: akyuz@ltp.dmx.epfl.ch
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Rush
Message-ID: <v02130500ae2217985dae@[128.178.99.94]>
I'm at last considering getting into some Rush. However, I'm wondering
whether or not to start off with "Chronicles". I know it's a best of and
that you end up buying all the albums anyway if you like the music, but on
the other hand it's got 2112 on it. 2112 (the album) was recommended to
me-DT/FW-freak by one of you guys.
Thanks in advance!
........................................................................
D A V E K I N G
vox & bass MT-20
"holding on is easier than letting go" (fw)
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