YTSEJAM Digest 1723
Today's Topics:
1) lurk mode off
by "Andrew Miller" <subtlerage@hungary-c.it.earthlink.net>
2) John Petrucci's Sound....
by "call me Joey The Axe Man" <IBANEZ_MAN@msn.com>
3) Michael Hedges, Terrible places to live :)
by rterry@inforamp.net (Rick Terry)
4) Re: vai-able information
by brax@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Bracken MacLeod)
5) Album Sales.....
by "Frank Benenati" <mojonet@pb.net>
6) DT items for sale (with 2 new possible items)
by JamesArin@aol.com
7) Rush tribute Monday July 29 (in Europe)
by Wessel Marquering <Wessel.Marquering@econ.kuleuven.ac.be>
8) JM, BP Reader's Poll
by btomko@home.glasscity.net
9) Modern Rock Guitar link
by Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
10) "TO LIVE FOREVER"
by "Scott D. Duren" <103430.227@CompuServe.COM>
11) Mark Metzger = Heretic!!!!!!
by breitweg@zewis2.desy.de (Jason Breitweg (Wisconsin))
12) help
by Tony Spitters <spitters@direct.ca>
13) RE: YTSEJAM digest 1722
by "Susan " <spatz13@msn.com>
14) ****YOU CAN WIN A (boot) CD by Dream Theater****
by market@clubmet.metrobbs.com
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Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 22:45:44 +0000
From: "Andrew Miller" <subtlerage@hungary-c.it.earthlink.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: lurk mode off
Message-ID: <199607270338.UAA24071@germany.it.earthlink.net>
hey everyone;
just a couple things i wanted to mention;
the tribute thing- i really think that this is just not realistic at
all. i don't know how many people on this list can afford to buy a
plane ticket, take time off from work, pay for studio
time and help pay for production costs for a cd that will make no
money whatsover. (unless you discuss royalties with DT or something).
but hey, that's just me talking. if you want to try it, more power
to you.
i noticed some discussion on sequencing drums... i use the sequencer
in my Korg 01/Wfd synth. this sequencer has quantinization, but to
varying degrees. what i normally do is record the drum track live
then apply maybe a 50% quantinization to the track... this corrects
my rhythm to a certain extent (since i'm trying to play drum rhythms
on a keyboard) but doesn't take away the human feel. once you add
totally live tracks over a partially quanitized (sp?) track, it
really helps with the human feel as well.
to the guy making Carpie Diem (sorry dude, lost your address when my
hard drive crashed a while back): please email me. :-)
um, that's about it.
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Andrew Miller - Keyboardist/Composer
Interum - New Age/Progressive Instrumental
SubtleRage - Progressive Rock
www - http://members.gnn.com/subtlerage
email - SubtleRage@earthlink.net
******Interum I now available******
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Date: Sat, 27 Jul 96 04:19:34 UT
From: "call me Joey The Axe Man" <IBANEZ_MAN@msn.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: John Petrucci's Sound....
Message-ID: <UPMAIL04.199607270421230621@msn.com>
I produce his sound remarkably well with a mesa boogie triaxis that blew my
wallet away...lol (that is the pre amp he uses) but before i got that, i
used to play through a ....
Samson concert series ii wireless into..
Korg dt 1 tuner into...
roctron patchmate (bradshaw switcher) into...
ADA MP-1 split into...
roctron progap into...
roctron Intellifex into....
BBE sonic Maximizer into...
Ensoniq DP4 into
Digitech Dual 14 EQ into....
Carvin FET 400 power amp into....
Carvin 4-12 cabinet
and through this setup i was able to duplicate Petrucci's tone and effects
rather well.... the MP-1 gave me the tube sound but wasn't quite harsh enough
so i split it and used the Pro gap for its heavy distortion (non tube) but
with the Intellifex and the ensoniq i had plenty of effects to completly
duplicate his sound....
i have since bought the triaxis and with the help of the settings listed in
the back of a magazine i have the exact tone he uses...TOO COOL
so when i play his songs you almost cant tell whether its him or not....except
when you ask me to play all the songs...lol pull me under..lie...and another
day are about it for me...but i got the clean sounds and distortion sounds
totally down...
i will look to see if i can find the settings!
about the drum machines, i use an Ensoniq ASR-10 and with the sampling
capabilities i can reproduce most drummers as well as add keyboards, real
sounding piano, bass, and others all in digital before tape...as the asr 10 is
basically an 8 track digital recorder, then all you have to do is set up a
mini disc player or dat player and record you guitar and vocals live and you
have got yourself quite an awesome recording!
thanks for listening, and someone mentioned 7 strings, i have an all white
Ibanez (of Course) Universe 777 and the Vai 777 that looks like the one on
the cover of passion and warfare
GREAT GUITARS, and they do sound very good!
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Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 04:52:04 GMT
From: rterry@inforamp.net (Rick Terry)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Michael Hedges, Terrible places to live :)
Message-ID: <31f99bb6.4899914@mail.inforamp.net>
"Swords and chains and metal and blood and bash your face into the
mud" - My brother Paul mocking my enjoyment of metal
>Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 14:04:47 +0000
>From: "Chris Ptacek" <someone@enteract.com>
>Michael Hedges Tunings! Yo, whoever asked me the question about
>tunings for Michael's tunes, I have a few, from transcribing a bunch
>of his songs, but just recently I was bored and I decided to do a
>Lycos search for Michael Hedges. One of the pages I found had
>compiled a list of tunings for some of the songs and even
>transcriptions! It could have saved me hours of time. Anyway, I
>recommend looking him up on netscape, but if you have a particular
>song you need the tuning to, please feel free to e mail me.
Hi Chris! That was me. I'll check out the Netscape listings
for him. He and Joni Mitchell both use some OUT THERE tunings, but the
results can be breathtaking.
I shall keep you in mind as my MH e-mail consultant! :)
Thanks!
>Date: Fri, 26 Jul 96 20:42:18 UT
>From: "Susan " <spatz13@msn.com>
>Taproot has only one song with vocals... and it sounds FINE to me... :) He
>also uses the varitrem on a couple of the songs... and it's in that nifty
>"audible story in music" format... go GET IT!!
Okay! I'll be picking it up next week and will report my
findings! :)
Thanks for the tip!
>Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 20:10:15 -0400
>From: jestok@interlog.com (Mike Estok)
> What are you talking about Rick....there are no jammers in Toronto.
>None :) THey all hang in Mississauga!!
Missiwhat?
Oh yeah! That uppity little pretentious borough to the west of
me. ;)
Cheers,
Rick
Toronto (vastly superior to Mississauga)
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Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 22:59:46 -0600 (MDT)
From: brax@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Bracken MacLeod)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: vai-able information
Message-ID: <9607270459.AA105094@lamar.ColoState.EDU>
>Speaking of Vai, is there actually a disk out by him called Leftovers??
>It's
>supposed to be the extras that didn't make FlexAble, but I've never seen it
>(an I've got ALL the Vai stuff...)
Leftovers is taked on to the end of the Flexable CD. At least it was
when I bought the CD a million years ago. The version I have is pressed
by Akashic Records and distributed by Important Record Distributors. I
have no idea if Relativity has bothered to reprint this album or not. I
doubt it is out of print though. I have no idea if this is a limited
release. Although, I don't think they've offered those tracks (So Happy,
Bledsoe Blvd., Burnin' Down the Mountain, and Chronic Insomnia) on any
other release, but I could be wrong.
Slainte,
Bracken
"...Without music, life would be an error."
Nietzsche -Twilight of the Idols-
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Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 02:04:54 -0400
From: "Frank Benenati" <mojonet@pb.net>
To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Album Sales.....
Message-ID: <199607270611.XAA12516@mindcrime.ax.com>
> From: Mithrandir <mithrandir@pb.net>
>
> Hey Joey check your figures before you open your mouth. Van Halen
with
> David Lee Roth sold 27 million copies of their albums. Van Halen with
Sammy
> Hagar sold nearly 16 million albums. Those are the correct figures. So
don't
> say VH never had a hit record with Dave. I am netither bashing or
defending
> either singer, I am just pointing out the correct facts.
>
Correction...John...check your figures...VH w/ Sammy sold about 20
million!!!!
Yes...But here are more of the facts....
*) Van Halen w/ Roth has had 6 albums....
*) Van Halen w/ Sammy has had 5 albums...
The above two facts make album sales at about (give or take) 4+ million
across the board.......(The live album is almost insignificant....check
the figures on that...It did shit...)
ALSO....VH with Roth has had 11 more years to sell albums...for your point
to be valid....we would have to take a recount in about 11 years!!!! It
would be safe to assume that Van Hagar would have a good 5 to 10 million
more on the count....
Also....When someone mentions hit record...most likely...they are
refering to billboards top200 album list....Van Hagar's studio albums have
all entered the countdown at #1!!!!!!! Van Roth's albums have never ever
reached #1.....(with ironically, Michael Jackson's Thriller keeping 1984
from hitting number 1.....which EVH played on!)
Also!!!!!! Van Halen scored one #1 hit single (Jump) with Roth.....why
don't you count how many have surfaced with Hagar....
I think it is safe to assume that Van Halen w/ Hagar has outsold Roth...in
less time with fewer studio albums!!!!!
M O J O !! ! ! !! !! ! ! !!
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Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 02:44:59 -0400
From: JamesArin@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com, metropolis@arastar.com
Subject: DT items for sale (with 2 new possible items)
Message-ID: <960727024458_246809809@emout19.mail.aol.com>
I still have some of these guys left! If you are interested let me
know. :^)
1) AWAKE w/EVE mini disc from JAPAN ($30)
2) AWAKE from JAPAN without EVE mini disc ($15)
10) 12" single of LIE sealed with British fan club mag inside ($20)
12) '93 USA tour pass with pic of full band in color ($15)
13) '92 JAPAN tour pass with burning heart & girl pic (red/black) ($13)
14) '93 JAPAN tour pass with burning heart (red) ($13)
15) I & W Access Satin sticker passes ($8)
17) German Awake ($15)
19) I & W Japan ($15)
23} Awake promo pick (medium) w/ DT logo ($8)
There are also 2 black and white promo pictures with Derek I may order if
enough people are interested.
Thanks,
Jim
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Date: Sat, 27 Jul 96 16:02:00 DFT
From: Wessel Marquering <Wessel.Marquering@econ.kuleuven.ac.be>
To: "ytsajam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Rush tribute Monday July 29 (in Europe)
Message-ID: <31FA218C@econmsmail.kuleuven.ac.be>
Here is some info MC send me regarding the Rush Tribute:
"The actual release date is Monday July 29, I believe.
Thanks for your interest. Just in case...
To order Magna Carta releases, please send $15.98 per CD to:
Magna Carta
Suite 1820
208 East 51st Street
New York, NY 10022
Add $5 per title for outside the U.S.
U.S. FUNDS ONLY
The Songs
Working Man
Bytor The Snow Dog
Analog Kid
The Trees
La Villa Strangiato
Mission
Anthem
Jacob?s Ladder
Closer To The Heart
Natural Science
YYZ
Red Barchetta
Free Will
Featuring the talents of
Billy Sheehan (Mr. Big) Bass
Brad Kaiser Drums
Brendt Allman (Shadow Gallery) Guitar
Carl Cadden-James (Shadow Gallery) Bass
Chris Ingles (Shadow Gallery) Keyboards
Deen Castronovo (Ozzy Osbourne, Social Distortion) Drums
Devin Townsend (Steve Vai, Strapping Young Lads) Vocals
Eric Martin (Mr. Big) Vocals
Fates Warning
(Ray Alder -Vocals, Jim Matheos-Guitar,
Joey Vera-Bass, Mark Zonder-Drums)
Gary Wehrkamp (Shadow Gallery) Keyboards & Guitar
George Lynch (Dokken)
Gregoor van der Loo (Lemur Voice ( formely Aura ! )) Vocals
Jack Russell (Great White) Vocals
Jake E. Lee (Ozzy Osbourne, Badlands) Guitar
James LaBrie (Dream Theater) Vocals
James Murphy (Testament) Guitar
Jeff Brockman (Cairo) Keyboards
John Petrucci (Dream Theater) Guitar
Marcel Coenen (Lemur Voice (formely Aura)) Guitar
Mark Slaughter (Slaughter) Vocals
Matt Guillory Keyboards
Michael Romeo (Symphony X) Guitar
Mike Baker (Shadow Gallery) Vocals
Mike Pinniella (Symphony X)
Mike Portnoy (Dream Theater) Drums
Rich Chycki (Winter Rose) Guitar
Robert Berry (o3o, GTR) Keyboards
Sean Malone (Cynic) Bass
Sean Reinert (Cynic) Drums
Sebastian Bach (Skid Row) Vocals
Steve Morse (Deep Purple, The Dregs, Kansas) Guitar
Stuart Hamm (Joe Satriani, etc) Bass
Trent Gardner (Magellan) Keyboards"
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Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 11:01:21 -0400
From: btomko@home.glasscity.net
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: JM, BP Reader's Poll
Message-ID: <B0000261348@home.glasscity.net>
I have voted in Bass Player's annual reader's poll. Because I share
a subscription with my brother, I didn't get final say on the voting. We
voted for Jonas Hellborg as Bass Player of the Year and John Myung for the
rock category. Other notable votes were for Mick Karn, Unclassifyable;
Steve Swallow, Jazz; and Sting, Favorite Band.
John Myung is almost never mentioned in Bass Player. There was a
small, uninformative article year or so ago, a mention when he came in 7th
in the readers poll, and that's all I know of. An interesting point, the
article was before "Awake" came out, and he was listed as playing a Tobias
Bassic 6. A few pages past the interview, in the New Gear section, profiled
are the..........TUNG BASSES!!!!!!! (I wonder where he found out about them????)
Mark Tomko
spector@dreamt.org
-or-
btomko@main.glasscity.net
Pennies on the Ground=Tax Free Income
"Jaco was astonished, Tony Levin thought me mad..."
"They sat awhile in silence, then they turned at last to me. We will call
you Spector; the god of Low Notes you shall be...."
-Rush
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Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 11:06:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com (Ytsejam Mailing List)
Subject: Modern Rock Guitar link
Message-ID: <199607271506.LAA05726@ruby.cs.brandeis.edu>
Well, some semi-DT content... I got some email the other day by the
designer of a new page dedicated to guitar lessons, and probably tabs
in the future... I'm not a musician, so I can't take full advantage
of the site, but others might want to take a look at it... the URL is
http://musicinteractive.com/member/content/aff/stetina/tscenter.html
It will ask you for a username and password... you can leave both
fields blank and continue right in...
--
+----------------------------+---------------+---------------------+
| We can learn from the past | Dream Theater | Michael Burstin |
| But those days are gone +---------------+ Brandeis University |
| We can hope for the Future | A Change Of +---------------------+
| But there may not be one | Seasons | LET'S GO PENS |
+----------------------------+---------------+---------------------+
For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu
http://www.cs.brandeis.edu/~mikeb/home.html
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Date: 27 Jul 96 11:21:53 EDT
From: "Scott D. Duren" <103430.227@CompuServe.COM>
To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: "TO LIVE FOREVER"
Message-ID: <960727152152_103430.227_JHM36-1@CompuServe.COM>
If you desire to live forever ... e-mail me privately ...
103430.227@compuserve.com
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Date: Sat, 27 Jul 96 17:49:32 +0200
From: breitweg@zewis2.desy.de (Jason Breitweg (Wisconsin))
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mark Metzger = Heretic!!!!!!
Message-ID: <9607271549.AA14116@zewis2.desy.de>
Okay somebody needs to hold me back. How dare Mr. Metzger say bad
things about the new Iced Earth disc! "The Dark Saga" is shear
brilliance! Okay maybe I am overreacting just a bit *chuckle*. But
seriously I listen to this disc at least once a day it is so good.
I have been a big Iced Earth fan since "Burnt Offerings" (I always
liked the lyrics "I will have her, she's mine!"). Granted "Burnt
Offerings" (here after referred to as BO (nothing to do with the bands
odor I assure you)) had a 16 minute long track. And long songs are
key in my book. "The Dark Saga" has the last three songs that are
supposed to be part of a larger thing. They just decided to split
them up on the disc for some reason *shrug*.
> Dark Saga is a concept album somewhat on the lines of Mindcrime but I dont
> really listen to vocals so I cant offer much on that front. Sadly, even
> with the cover, the total length is only 47 minutes and this is filled with
> a lot of shorter songs. I had always preferred their longer songs such as
> Dante's Inferno so this aspect was a bit of a let down for me.
The concept of the disc is actually the Spawn comic book series. I
have only read the first ten issues but the themes on the disc are
kind of general things that I vaguely remember from the comics. Good
artwork on the disc cover from the guy that draws Spawn (Macfarlane or
something like that *shrug*). True the disc _is_ a bit too short.
> Their sound is still heavy but seems a bit more accessible than that of
> either Burnt Offerings or Stormrider. And, I dont get the same level of
> intelligence in the song writing as on their previous two disks. A couple
> of songs faded out which pissed me off (does anyone else get pissed off
> when Learning to Live fades out ??). Still some good riffs, but I would
> rate it at only 20% worth of a Dream Theatre (drink twice) album. Hmmm.
> An interesting concept there, eh (20% worth)
Okay the songs are a bit more radio friendly than previous discs but
they still kick major ass! There are some fade outs but you must
admit that some of the riffs are just killer! When I know the kick
ass riffs are coming up I just get a big smile on my face (okay so
maybe I am weird so sue me!).
Only 20% of a DT....I give it 90% since it is the best CD this year.
Of course the new MANOWAR comes out soon *chuckle*. But the new
MANOWAR isn't actually all that good (anyone want me to mail them my
review of it?).
Okay enough of my venting. Hey does anyone out there that I know want
to share a room at the Ytsecon? I shall be flying in from Madison, WI
for the con.
Adios.
Jason
+--------------=> Jason T Breitweg (breitweg@amzeus.desy.de) <=---------------+
| I've got Heavy Metal Music in my blood |
| and I'd like to get it to you if I could |
+------------------=> http://zow00.desy.de:8000/~breitweg <=------------------+
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Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 10:49:09 -0700
From: Tony Spitters <spitters@direct.ca>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: help
Message-ID: <96Jul27.104910-0700pdt.269060-232+465@aphex.direct.ca>
could you please discontinue sending email to this address the
person that requested it is not here any longer and I really don't like
hveing to sift through all the mail that this address is generating thankyou
kindly
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Date: Sat, 27 Jul 96 18:10:42 UT
From: "Susan " <spatz13@msn.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 1722
Message-ID: <UPMAIL08.199607271807310927@msn.com>
>Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 13:26:56 +0000
>From: "Chris Ptacek" <someone@enteract.com>
>Subject: Guitar Sound
>rosewood (like JP's) and you will need Humbuckers (For JP's sound,
>get the pickups he uses... DiMarzio Norton or something)
I may be wrong here, but last time I talked to Larry (DiMarzio), JP was using
a Steve's Special at the neck and a ToneZone at the bridge...
>For amps, you'd be suprised at the sound from the new Peavey Trans
>Tube amps. They really do sound good. You can save hundreds, or
I've also had cinsiderable luck with my Carvin SX100/DigiTech ValveFX combo in
the DT dept....
Susan
Spatz13@MSN.COM
WWW.GEOCITIES.COM/3781
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Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 16:09:56 -0400
From: WildKoba@aol.com
Subject: the hunt for ibanez
>good luck finding the first one. and about customs, i understand that they
>WON'T make custom guitars for you. something weird, don't know why. i >asked
once and they said no. not sure how or why, but you can always try.
I think it has to do with that nifty endorsement thing... speaking of wich --
anybody know Ibanez's policies on it?? How bout Digitech, Carvin, D'Addario,
or DiMarzio? E'mail me!
Susan
Spatz13@MSN.COM
WWW.GEOCITIES.COM/3781
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Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 13:58:42 -0500
From: market@clubmet.metrobbs.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: ****YOU CAN WIN A (boot) CD by Dream Theater****
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.7.27.13.58.42.17202.782@clubmet.metrobbs.com>
Hey all you Ytsejamers-
The (new) limited Dream Theater stickers are here...and ready for
ship-out!
(surf the net at: http://WWW.DREAMT.ORG) (see merchandise)
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Would you like a chance to win a limited edition CD by Dream Theater?
The CD is "When Dream And Today Unite". (by mike b/Prism Records).
I believe there is only 1000 in print. Some of the following live
songs are on this cd: A Fortune In Lies, Get Funky, The Ytsejam,
Light Fuse and Get Away, Mission Impossible, To Live Forever,
Only A Matter Of Time, and several others! A must for any DT fan!
If you order (3) or more stickers by August 15th, 1996 your name
will be entered in a drawing to win "WHEN DREAM AND TODAY UNITE".
The drawing will be held August 16th, 1996 and will be announced
via E-MAIL & Ytsejam maillist that day. (don't forget to send
your email address with your order).
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
ABOUT THE STICKER: wanna see a pict? (http://www.dreamt.org)
The Dream Theater sticker is simple, yet captivating! It will
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At the top of the sticker says, "Dream Theater". In the middle
of the sticker is has the "Majesty symbol" (in a yellowish/white tint).
The majority of the middle background is a dark blue color. With black
fade in,on the top and bottom. On the bottom of the sticker says,
"-YTSEJAM-". I must take this moment to thank, "Thinker" from the
Ytsejam maillist, he did the artwork for the sticker. Thank you!
If you are not completely satisfied with the sticker(s)
I will refund your money for any unused stickers. 100 % guaranteed!
---(don't forget, if you order 3 or more, you will be entered in
the drawing for the boot DT CD)---
IF YOU would like your own sticker(s)...then you can write to the
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and handling). (U.S. Currency/check/M.O. accepted). Orders
*Outside the U.S./add $1.00 for shipping/on any # ordered).
(((want to get even a better deal??? If you order 10 or more
stickers at any one time...your cost is $1.50 each)* (total $15.00).
ALSO if you order 10 or more, your name will be entered in the
DT CD drawing five (5) times, so your chances to win are greater!)))
FOR RUSH ORDER/write to:
TRS GROUP
11184 Antioch Road SUITE 701
Overland Park, Kansas 66210 USA
(checks and M.O. made out to: TRS GROUP).
(Don't forget your email address, and make sure you have the
above "suite" number on the outside of your envelope).
all orders are shipped out next business day.
If you have ANY questions, feel free to write me!
take care,
todd s
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