YTSEJAM Digest 1704
Today's Topics:
1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1693
by FDDC08F@prodigy.com (MR FRANK A CLARK)
2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1702
by rterry@inforamp.net (Rick Terry)
3) Will Metropolis still me on the new album??
by vestal@usa.net (DUSTY VESTAL)
4) Another Puertorican Jammer!
by Daniel McCormack <emc@caribe.net>
5) quick addition
by Daniel McCormack <emc@caribe.net>
6) Barroom Antics, Magna Carta, YtseJam: The Movie
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1703
by hawkeye7@ix.netcom.com (Larry Odneal)
8) Ethyl Mertz + stuff
by Mithrandir <mithrandir@pb.net>
9) Miscellaneous schtuff
by Jennifer <jenibear@gvn.net>
10) Clockwork "Weaving Webs of Time"
by <CNG@tcco.com> (Chung Ng)
11) Ytse-survey
by swanson@henge.com (Sheila Swanson)
12) dt merchandise
by John Emmons <jemmfam@imperium.net>
13) To anyone who gets Muchmusic
by jestok@interlog.com (Mike Estok)
14) Go see these movies! ytsejam radio station?
by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
15) Anybody got a room in NYC?
by BERTAPELLE ADAM RAYE <bertapel@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
16) THIS is interesting.....
by RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
17) asdf
by "Carlo D'Angelo" <helstar@earthlink.net>
18) WTF?
by sledge@allinux1.alliance.net (Sledge)
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Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 14:29:30, -0500
From: FDDC08F@prodigy.com (MR FRANK A CLARK)
To: YTSEJAM@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1693
Message-ID: <199607211829.OAA22278@mime3.prodigy.com>
-- [ From: Frank Clark * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --
Could someone do me a favor and tell me how to get out of the fan club.
I don't really want to but I'm gatting to many jams and my father is
starting to bitch about the memory. . .
Thanx,
The Joker
P.S. Now if you could figure out someway to make it so there are less
jams coming through I would still like to stay involved. . .
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Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 18:40:06 GMT
From: rterry@inforamp.net (Rick Terry)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1702
Message-ID: <31f275f5.9932417@mail.inforamp.net>
Hi all,
>Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 13:47:46 -0400
>From: Jacques Ferland <sebsammy@generation.net>
> If ANYONE thinks this is a good idea, please say so. I especially want to
>sing on "To Live Forever", so this would be a "Dream" come true, and I
>think not only for me!!
Grrrrrrrrr!!! Hey!!!! I already called that one!! :)
Okay, you can have it, but I get Voices.
I am familiar with TREBAS as well and that might be a good
choice. There is also one in Toronto and other locations as well I
assume.
Cheers,
Rick
Toronto
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Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 12:42:51 -0600 (MDT)
From: vestal@usa.net (DUSTY VESTAL)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Will Metropolis still me on the new album??
Message-ID: <199607211842.MAA22843@mail.usa.net>
I was wondering if Metropolis Part 2 will still be on the new
ablum...Everytime I see a list of titles on the net, it never mentions
Metropolis, so I was just wondering....Take Care....dusty
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Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 14:47:48 -0300
From: Daniel McCormack <emc@caribe.net>
To: Valhalla <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Another Puertorican Jammer!
Message-ID: <31F26D44.39C3@caribe.net>
Hey, I was just reading the Jam #1699 and I saw a post by someone else on CaribeNet (Kain, I
think it was)! And I thought I was the only Puerto Rican on the Jam! Just goes to show, uh,
something... :) Oh, and about what Rip said abt. DT on CIS, no, this was an organized
conference and it was announced a few days before on that 'what's new' thingy... It was them.
OK, that's about it from me for now, later guys.
Moo,
-Bovis Deus-
--Daniel McCormack http://premium.caribe.net/~emc/index.html thecowgod@dreamt.org or dmc@dreamt.org emc@caribe.net
"Look at those cows and remember that the greatest scientists in the world have never discovered how to make grass into milk." - Michael Pupin
"They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist-" - General John Sedgewick, Union Commander in the Civil War, speaking his last words.
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Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 14:49:11 -0300 From: Daniel McCormack <emc@caribe.net> To: Valhalla <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: quick addition Message-ID: <31F26D97.2288@caribe.net>
Oh, yeah, and I like Itchy's idea about the pIRCh personal Bios. I have one, in case anyone wants it, just ask...
Moo, -Bovis Deus-
[no sig cuz I'm nice :)]
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Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 15:25:08 -0400 (EDT) From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu> To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Barroom Antics, Magna Carta, YtseJam: The Movie Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9607211558.F28291-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
> From: Graham Borland <graham@grelb.src.gla.ac.uk> > Subject: Bars and Beer > > After the band left the stage, I noticed the singer was attached by the > tongue to a rather unattractive woman. I thought to myself "Hey, The > Digital Man could do better than that!"
Graham, it's nice to know that you're going out in men's clothing again. :)
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> From: Cowboyburt@aol.com > Subject: RUSH TRIBUTE OUT ON TUESDAY!! > > Well, It looks like the Rush Tribute will be released without a hitch this > coming Tuesday. As I'm sure everybody knows, it features Mike Portnoy quite > heavily as well as contributions from James and JP. Can't wait to hear it!! > It is on Magna Carte Records which is a small independant label, so it may > possibly take a little effort to locate, so you should start your search > immediately!!!
You know, some people just aggravate me. I went to a Strawberries about a week ago, and asked the guy about the trib and about Magna Carta in general. He went into the back, and came out saying, "Yup. We're going to have it. Definitely." A friend of mine goes in a few days later, and gets the response "Who?" I'm probably just going to wind up mail-ordering it.
Bastards.
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> From: Scott McCammon <mccammsa@cs.purdue.edu> > Subject: Ytse-radio > > Anyhow, a thought crossed my mind: wouldn't it be cool to > have our own radio station?! Call it WYJM. Playing prog,
YtseJam: The Radio Station.
> metal, neojazzgroovyspinetinglin rock just for those > who appreciate a good tune. Of course why stop there - might > as well have our own recording studio in the back. There > jammers across the country could unite for some serious
YtseJam: The Recording Studio.
> sessions. Yeah, then on to telivision broadcasting... look > out MTV! Next thing you know we'll have our own breakfast > cereal. That in my eyes would be the shit. Once you got your
YtseJam: The Breakfast Cereal.
> own cereal, it doesn't get any better than that. > > Ok, too much sun for me today.
Sir, Scott's gone plaid! Prepare ship for ludicrous speed!
------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ Secretary cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu "@'/ ,. \`@" UVM Comp Sci Student Assn d-man@dreamt.org /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/ He's a digital man" - Peart
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Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 12:39:39 -0700 From: hawkeye7@ix.netcom.com (Larry Odneal) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1703 Message-ID: <199607211939.MAA06502@dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com>
> >Well, It looks like the Rush Tribute will be released without a hitch >this coming Tuesday.
That's great, burt, but - Where did you get the information??? I hope you're right, but I've been burned on this already (by CDConnection).
About the band appearing at the 'Con:
>In short, he's (Derek's) heard about it, but he's not sure if he's >going to come. It's not that he doesn't want to; just that he acts >somewhat spontaneously and the cons later in the year.
And: >Things look really good and they should be there (according to various >members of Dream Theater). >
Anybody else think the band is being evasive here? It's always "Looks like the band will be there" and "JP said they're aware of it, etc." but apparently NOBODY has committed to it. How come?
Somebody (Adam?) wrote:
>Then again, I bought I&W first and think that record is >stronger musically.
I bought I&W first, too, and I disagree 100%. Awake is the best album of all time. No qualifiers, it's a fact.
>After ACOS, I'm starting to think that he may be going back to >his cleaner sound; at least, I hope so.
And I hope NOT!
Rick in Toronto wrote:
>Other activities that can be undertaken during this time might >be as follows: > > >1. Read War and Peace. >2. Translate all of the DT lyrics into Mandarin. >3. Play hopscotch or skip rope in front of MP's drum riser. >4. Write an accurate definition of "Progressive music". >5. Donate to Charlie Dominici c/o O Holy Night Productions. >6. Recall accurately, all the titles of DT's live instrumentals. >7. Tenderize the sirloin for the evening's BBQ with a mallet. >8. Stuff or pluck some turkeys for the next major holiday. >9. Hand out MP robes to all fans who are cold. >10. Autograph the breasts of all women in the front row. > ROTFLOL! These are hilarious, Rick! Well, most of 'em, anyway! ;^)
And: >God! From all of the preaching in this message you guys are >going to think I'm a Born Again Christian! 8-| ) >>
Michael C. is back, with a new name!
Just kidding, Rick! And if you don't know Michael C., consider yourself lucky!
I agree with everything you said about drugs in the music biz; I've seen it myself. Very talented musicians who went completely in the shitter. What a waste . . .
Sir Reality
(high on DT)
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Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 14:43:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Mithrandir <mithrandir@pb.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Ethyl Mertz + stuff Message-ID: <199607212143.OAA21251@mindcrime.ax.com>
I went to the Ethyl Mertz show on Friday, and I must say it was pretty cool. Derek knew none of the songs, but still managed to play his ass off. The cool thing was when Jon Oliva from Savatage came out and sang two Beatles songs. In the second set, they brought up about everyone in the bar for guest spots on songs. Amazing thing about Al Pitrelli; from a distance he looks just like John Petrucci(with the beard). The place is a real scummy place however, but as MOJO will attest they do serve Tequila. He left after the first set though, he has no balls.
The Smashing Pumpkins thing that I agreed with was the fact that maybe they are not shooting up. Don't make that assumption. If they are, then they are hypocrites. If not, then I respect them. I think the band will have some serious legal entanglements even though they kicked him out. As for Pantera, it is attitudes like Anselmo's that get people killed. Can anyone say DENIAL, and it ain't just a river in Africa.
Hey Ben, I could care less!!!!!!!!!!!! Elen sila lumenn omentilmo, Mithrandir
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Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 14:56:11 -0700 From: Jennifer <jenibear@gvn.net> To: "Ytsejam Mailing List" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Miscellaneous schtuff Message-ID: <199607212156.OAA21529@mindcrime.ax.com>
Galatic Cowboy recently stated the following in Ytsejam #1703:
>But I want to talk more about a QR boot I just got in the mail. It's from >The Promised Land tour 5/24/95 from San Jose, CA. This boot kicks ass >too. It's from a soundboard. And the sound is excellent. Any QR fans >looking for a good boot, pick this one up. I got mine from the CDCellar.
Hmmm... Actually, as many people already know, there's lots of *legit* "Promised Land" tapes floating around. During the PL tour, 'ryche allowed for tapers' sections. I guess what you purchased is still technically a bootleg, though, since somebody just made a profit on it...
Also from #1703:
> Someone mentioned that A Clockwork Orange (the film, not the book) was >banned >in the U.K. and that this was censorship. From what I understand, A >Clockwork >Orange was banned by Kubrick himself after it supposedly inspired young >people >to commit crimes very similar to those in the film. Since Kubrick owned the >copyrights, he prohibited it to be screened or sold in the U.K. I could be >wrong, but that is what I understand.
I sent a private message to Graham on this matter, but, since it was brought up again, I'll share what I've read recently. The British 'puter mag _Net User_ reviewed several cult film Web sites in its June issue (#12). Here is part of what is said about a "Clockwork" site:
"Many of you will no doubt have heard cult film fans talking about Stanley Kubrick's _A Clockwork Orange_ but won't have actually seen it. The reason for this is that the film has been tied up in legal wrangles for years and, although not actually banned, the British Board of Film Classification won't release it until certain scenes are cut. Not wanting to compromise his artistic integrity, Stanley Kubrick refuses to screen the film, hence the stalemate."
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I'd like to add a hello and welcome to new 'jammer Susan. You probably think you have no idea who I am, but, then again, you're used to seeing my 24th Street Exchange @ddress. ;)
Jen
Reality is not optional. -- Thomas Sowell
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Date: Sun, 21 Jul 96 18:01:47 -24000 From: <CNG@tcco.com> (Chung Ng) To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Cc: <FMTG05A@prodigy.com> Subject: Clockwork "Weaving Webs of Time" Message-ID: <vines.3hH8+tiewlA@tcx.tcco.com>
I got my free copy of Clockwork's "Weaving Webs of Time" a few days ago and would urge anyone and everyone to get it. I get a lot of demo's and this one is one of the most professional sounding I've heard so far.
The vocals could use of some work (as stated in the letter that accompanies the tape), but the music is very good. It sounds like the band is heavily influenced by Shadow Gallery - lots of cool keyboard/piano interludes tying together the 27+ minute "progressive" epic. I look forward to new material from this band.
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Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 16:21:59 -0600 From: swanson@henge.com (Sheila Swanson) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Ytse-survey Message-ID: <199607212221.QAA31805@henge.com>
How's it goin' y/jammers. The following is a repost to remind all of you to get your survey responses in.
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Me and some guys on IRC hatched this mother of a plan. Here goes. I want to profile the average YTSEJAMMER!!! I will take all your responses and find what the average jammer is REALLY like. All you have to do is answer these 4 SIMPLE questions:
1. Are you a musician, and if so what instrument do you play?
2. What is/was your grade point average? (high school, college, whatever you're prouder of.)
3. Are you an athlete, and if so what sport do you play?
4. What is your, (or your parents, depending on if you're in school or not) average yearley income?
The two number questions will be averaged when I post the results, and the posted answers to the other questions will be based on the most frequent responses.
The results will be posted thursday August first. Get your answers in quick, and all will run smoothly. No one will get hurt.=)
Send all answers to swanson@henge.com
FYI, this is all done purely out of curiosity.
Later, Cory
PS Thanks to all who were on IRC that helped out.
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Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 20:44:26 +0000 From: John Emmons <jemmfam@imperium.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: dt merchandise Message-ID: <31F2969A.5181@imperium.net>
Hello fellow jammers,
I perchased a Dt pass from James Colberg, who's address I got from this list I believe. Did anyone out there order something from him? I haven't gotten it, and He's cash the check, so I'm trying to figure out whether I will get the merchandise at all...hope someone can help. thanks, Maria
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Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 21:31:51 -0400 From: jestok@interlog.com (Mike Estok) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: To anyone who gets Muchmusic Message-ID: <199607220130.VAA18565@gold.interlog.com>
I just heard about MuchMusic's new contest and it is damn interesting.
It is open to any Canadian. You have to find any three videos that they play in a row and write them down. THe videos must, in your opinion, complement each other well.
The winner picked by the station gets to be a PRODUCER FOR A DAY!!! You can program the entire music video department for one whole day!!!!!
Now, I think it would be incredibly cool if a 'jammer won this. Just think, nothing but prog and metal all day long. Wow, this makes me shiver.
So, any Canadian jammers out there: enter the fucking contest!!! We can always hope!!!!!!!!!!!
Michelob
The handle that goes down smooth, with no aftertaste.
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Date: Sun, 21 Jul 96 19:06:02 PDT From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Go see these movies! ytsejam radio station? Message-ID: <9607220206.AA10946@tengs1>
Courage Under Fire. The first third of it, I was kind of thinking, "what the hell is the point of this movie?" It really starts coming together in the end though. Tragic and shocking.
The Frighteners. This was great! Possibly, the best I've seen this summer. ID4 beats it in scope, but this movie is better all around.
Really funny for the first hour, and then things turn f*cking sinister during the second half. Might give the weak-of-heart nightmares though. Damn good story and the few [types] of special effects were great. Great music, too (Danny Elfman, and someone doing Don't Fear the Reaper). Tragic, in a sense, too. (Sorry to tread on Mike B.'s territory here.)
>Anyhow, a thought crossed my mind: wouldn't it be cool to >have our own radio station?! Call it WYJM.
Hey! You bastards (don't worry, that's a term of endearment) east of the Mississippi seem to forget about the rest of the US (apologies to out-of-country 'jammers).
I think it should be "KYJM". Though that does kind of have a sick connotation, if you know what I mean...
Zach
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Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 20:26:17 -0600 (MDT) From: BERTAPELLE ADAM RAYE <bertapel@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Anybody got a room in NYC? Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.94.960721202206.23899A-100000@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
Hey, fellow jammers! I'm headed out to Manhattan to start my job on August 1. Does anybody out there have a room for rent, or need someone to take over a sublease? I just graduated from the University of Colorado and I'm on vacation in San Francisco before I head east. Even if it's a temporary arrangement, I'll take what I can get. Please pass my name onto your friends if they have anything, and e-mail me back privately so we can exchange phone numbers. Oh, and if I need DT content, I can't wait to get to NYC so I can go to shows like Old Bridge and Birch Hill. Thanks for getting back to me if you're interested. ->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->-> Adam R. Bertapelle "Scuse me...while I kiss this guy!" bertapel@ucsu.colorado.edu Jimi Hendrix Ask for my bootleg list! Purple Haze <-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<
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Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 21:52:02 -0500 From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org> To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: THIS is interesting..... Message-ID: <31F2ECD2.5BF0@dreamt.org>
i was introducing a friend of mine to DT yesterday.... it was Caught in a Web.. she remarked that James sounded like Rob Zombie of white zombie. hows that for a comparison? :) she did like it though, so its nuttin' necessarily bad there... just an interesting comment. anyone else see this in James's voice? hehehe ~Rip
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Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 23:58:55 -0400 From: "Carlo D'Angelo" <helstar@earthlink.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: asdf Message-ID: <31F2FC7F.325F@earthlink.net>
subscribe
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Date: Mon, 22 Jul 96 00:35 EDT From: sledge@allinux1.alliance.net (Sledge) To: YTSEJAM@ax.com Subject: WTF? Message-ID: <m0uiCiV-001CRgC@alliance.net>
I am now fucking K-Lined for playing a joke.. i have no idea WTF all of your problems are on #ytsejam but i just wanted to say "Why" why is everyone thinking im an ass.. you gotta remember this is irc not face to face.. we don't exactly know what the person is really thinking when they chat.. i just wanna know why the fuck im k-lined.. please get back to me soon. -Sledge-
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