YTSEJAM Digest 1609
Today's Topics:
1) Screaming??!!!
by napkins@clandjop.com (Seth Hatlelid)
2) replies to Skadz's ramblings
by ernie@mail.pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
3) I am a loser
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@moose.uvm.edu>
4) Skadz
by Mithrandir <mithrandir@pb.net>
5) This is why you
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@moose.uvm.edu>
6) upcoming portnoy clinics
by Cowboyburt@aol.com
7) !!!!!! NEW SUPERIOR ORDER SOURCE !!!!!!
by Bernd Basmer <basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de>
8) Load and DT
by Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com>
9) NO MORE SUPERIOR ORDERS!!!!
by jskewes@why.net (jskewes)
10) irc help
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
11)
by
12) Shadow Gallery "Carved In Stone"
by CNG@tcco.com
13) Birthdays, Checkouts, Clinics
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
14) Skadz cheats
by BILL HUSTON <HUSTON@IOMEGA.COM>
15) My New E-Mail Address.. RAH!!!
by elliott@fxn.com (Elliott Kim)
16) (U)Metalli-gridlockers
by "Steven Johnson" <svjohnson@amoco.com>
17) Savatage
by Kris Claerhout <100522.625@compuserve.com>
18) James Murphy (ndtc)
by KWMadden@usa.pipeline.com (Kevin Madden)
19) Liar & no 10s :(
by John McCabe <caber1@cris.com>
20) New Metallica (again and again)
by Andrija Bosnjakovic <metalhead@galeb.etf.bg.ac.yu>
21) 2 of a kind
by John McCabe <caber1@cris.com>
22) Re: Skadz
by Andrew Keegan <akeegan@liii.com>
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Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 23:36:32 -0500
From: napkins@clandjop.com (Seth Hatlelid)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Screaming??!!!
Message-ID: <v01510101addd5a3eea88@[204.71.98.37]>
Hiya guys,
>Seth screamed on this.
WTF???!!!!! Ernie, just what are you talking about? I don't even have
cable so I don't have Empty-V, so I have NO idea what "Until it Sleeps" is
based on. For all I know, it could be about the time when James got so
drunk his left butt-cheek fell asleep; now whenever his ass tingles he
knows he's had enough, so he goes home to sleep it off? ;-)
I'm also not all that into paintings as an art medium.
As to Ben's question about Dragonheart being worthy of his ytse-cash, IT is
most definately worth it. Most fantasy films suck whale spleen because the
special effects for dragons and magic and faeries just aren't convincing,
but Dragonheart really delivers. Surprisingly, DH made a great date movie.
I'd recommend it over Twister, because the plot was better (wait, did
Twister have a plot or was it just run from one specila effect to the next?
hmmmmm). DH was really almost cute in some parts (I wanted to take Draco
home with me) and pretty war/gore at some others (love that kid getting
pierced by the spike)
One thing though, did anybody think that the heroes voice sounded exactly
like Beetlejuice?!!!
Maybe DT will start getting jobs doing more movie soundtracks, commercials,
video games because Petrrucci did Necronomicon (stupid name for a pinball
game). If Danzig can do the theme song for "McKenna", DT can do just about
anything (the new prog KFC jingle?!!!)
That's all for now.
napkins@clandjop.com
Seth Hatlelid
"Never take Hamburgler on a date to Burger King!"
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Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 00:01:41 -0400
From: ernie@mail.pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: replies to Skadz's ramblings
Message-ID: <19960607040139.AAA23148@mail.pananet.com>
>Well, I am Jesus, and it definately isn't the way to get to heaven :)
Ha! you too, eh? I guess everybody w/ long, dark brown hair is Jesus;)
>Yes, this is a free country (well, kinda, but that's for another
>mailing list) and a free list (cuz I don't have the time or
>patience to moderate it) and metropolis doesn't really exist
>(cuz Ken doesn't have the time)
why is it that list moderators are always busy? Is it that really busy
people get this sudden urge to run a mailing list,or is it some kinda virus?:)
>More from the Loadless Ernie:
>
..and still Loadless at that (sniff):'(
>> Curious comments on the new Pantera...what happened to Phil? He used to do
>> some really kik-ass screams, but on this one he *really* sounds like he's
>> throwing up.
>
>You mean that scream at the beginning of the album doesn't totally
>kick your ass???? Your CD must be defective, try some toothpaste :)
>
Oh, you mean the
5-sec.-of-pure-raw-energy-that-leave-you-lying-on-the-floor-
gasping-for-breath? heck yeah! But just about every other scream on that CD
just doesn't appeal to the 'agressive person' in me.":) besides...Seth
screamed on that:)
C-ya, wouldn't wanna B-ya!!
Ernie :)
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Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 01:01:06 -0400
From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@moose.uvm.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: I am a loser
Message-ID: <199606070501.BAA95344@moose.uvm.edu>
I am
I really am
I just plain suck
:)
I am not kidding
D-Man
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Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 22:01:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mithrandir <mithrandir@pb.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Skadz
Message-ID: <199606070501.WAA05714@mindcrime.ax.com>
I just thought that I would post my opinions of Mr. Skadz. I believe
that the comment about "That laim school in Huntington" thing was aimed
directly at me and my alumnus St. Anthony's. Well let us just say that I
know two other graduates from your High school, and they are both freaks. I
guess that your mother got smart after you graduated from Chaminade, and
sent her to a real school. Well at least you are an Islander fan unlike
Mooojoman. I think we should ask the members of DT who they like in hockey.
I know that John Myung is an Islander fan, so I guess he's smart.
Frank, I'm sorry to have used you as an example. You still are one of
the coolest people I know, and am proud to call you a friend ( enjoy TSM
single). Oh yeah, it looks like BD this weekend ( Personal joke ).
Ytse-Ben, The easiest way to tell if a song is changing tempo is to
"chick" the high hats. If when you are playing the song, the pace of the
"chick" stays the same, then it is the same tempo. That is not to say that
the time signature is not changing though. When you go from 4/4 to 6/8 your
beats per minute will change, but the feel of the tempo should remain the same.
P.S. Hey Frank, my quote will be " Sorry about that " yet again, Laughs!!!!!
Elen sila lumenn omentilmo, Mithrandir
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Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 01:02:06 -0400
From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@moose.uvm.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: This is why you
Message-ID: <199606070502.BAA08144@moose.uvm.edu>
don't trust other people with your password
:)
Skadz
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Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 03:40:01 -0400
From: Cowboyburt@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: upcoming portnoy clinics
Message-ID: <960607034001_129792630@emout16.mail.aol.com>
is anyone going to mike's clinic in tampa,florida this saturday (june 8th)??
if so, give us a report. i heard he's been playing along to new dt songs.
same goes for any ytse-jammers down under who are gonna see him on his
australian clinic tour next week. thanks!!
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Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 11:10:55 +0200
From: Bernd Basmer <basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: !!!!!! NEW SUPERIOR ORDER SOURCE !!!!!!
Message-ID: <9606070910.AA14789@krzsun.med-rz.uni-sb.de>
Hi!
First, I'd like to thank Jason Skewes for his great work and
for all he has done for the band Superior. Without him most of
you, who ordered our CD, would have had to pay much more for
it because of the high costs for shipment. Thanks Jason. You rule!
Second, THERE IS A NEW SOURCE IN THE USA WHERE YOU CAN ORDER
YOUR SUPERIOR-CD DIRECTLY!!! Please email
EmpireEnt@aol.com or
apocalypse@marlin.intelli-net.com
for details. These people have a Mail-order company and they
sell the CDs from now on.
You can also order by snail-mail:
Empire Entertainment
P.O. Box 1756
Sebastopol, CA 95473
I don't have the address of Apocalypse-music with me at the moment,
but I'll pass it to you later.
Jason will no longer take orders! So please don't send him
your orders anymore. The ones who ordered in the last few
weeks and didn't get the CD 'til now , don't worry! I'll
send the next shipment away when Jason's last order arrives here.
This will probably be at the end of next week, or so.
That means you will get your CDs from Jason. But you're the
last ones who will be served by him.
Thanks.
Bye.
Bernd. (superior@dreamt.org)
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Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 03:11:32 -0700 (MST)
From: Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Load and DT
Message-ID: <199606071011.DAA16056@bud.indirect.com>
I agree with Jon Parmet. Load is a great album... Metallica can't
go on making albums full of palm-muted thrash exercises like Four
Horsemen, Damage Inc, or Trapped Under Ice. Load itself has about...
well, 12 songs that immediately jump out and grab me as "good" (I don't
care for the first two yet... Bitch and 2x4... but they'll grow), and
there are at least four clear masterpieces on the CD in my opinion: The
House Jack Built, Bleeding Me, Mama Said, and Hero Of The Day. Until It
Sleeps is a runner-up... it grooves, but gets cranking a bit too late.
The key here is that Metallica is exploring music in a way that
Rush and Dream theater tend to: they're trying new sonic approaches,
new structure, and a big thumbs-up to longer songs! A very long song
anchors each half of Load. If DT had made WDADU-II instead of Images &
Words, in other words another album full of thoughtful songwriting that
wanders a bit too much, melodies that could have been made better, and
songs that are intriguing and intense but lack hooks or memorable broken
boundaries, then we wouldn't have thought much of Images and it would
have been a very stale album. Same for Metallica.. they have to write
what's new and exciting to them, regardless of their track record.
I'm particularly interested in what I hear about Mama Said.
Clearly the most different Metallica song ever made, this one combines
some very diverse and cohesive elements from different genres and creates
a song that really flows well and has some fantastic harmony work. I
haven't heard harmonies done in that style since The Last Unicorn. "All
that I ask of you..." etc. The slide guitar, a new element in Metallica,
is almost subsidiary to the good song structure and thoughtful lyrics,
including a reference to Blade Runner ("The brightest flame burns
quickest") and shades of the soft side of Dyers' Eve. Now on the one
hand, all my DT-loving buddies dig this song bigtime. All my Metallica
fan friends who aren't much into DT and Rush don't think too much of
it. I think that as progressive fans our horizons widen a bit.
Just my opinion.
- voluntas vincit omnia - Mike Bahr - durnik@indirect.com -
P.S. Scenes From A Memory has begun shipping. Expect yours soon! If you
haven't ordered it yet... WHY NOT?!?! :) E-mail me for all the details.
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Date: Fri, 07 Jun 1996 05:29:18 -0500
From: jskewes@why.net (jskewes)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: NO MORE SUPERIOR ORDERS!!!!
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19960607102918.00676878@why.net>
Did ya read the title.....??!?!?
SUPERIOR will now begin to have their album 'behind' distributed by a REAL
distributor. The company is EMPIRE ENTERTAINMENT.
If you've sent your order to me, you will still get your CD. If you haven't
sent one to me, but you were about to, DON'T. Instead, contact Bernd at:
and he can point you in the right direction.
Looks like these guys finally got noticed here!!! I'm excited for them.
Hope it's the beginning of something BIG.
If you have amy questions, e-mail me.
(I'll be out of town til Sunday though, so it'll take me a few days to get
back to you.)
Thanks for all your support!
Jason
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Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 09:08:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: irc help
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960607090617.6347A@bdmserver>
I've never been able to get irc to work right.
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Date: Fri, 7 Jun 96 11:50:08 -24000
From: CNG@tcco.com
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Shadow Gallery "Carved In Stone"
Message-ID: <vines.3hH8+e,3ilA@tcx.tcco.com>
I just got Shadow Gallery's "Carved In Stone" (thanks to everyone who
recommended them). I noticed that the sleeve lists 13 tracks, yet my CD
player registers 20. I'm assuming that the last track which is 22 minutes
must be broken up into smaller tracks...
Am I missing any of the song since my CD player only goes up to 20 tracks?
Just wondering.
PS - This album is great.
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Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 09:30:05 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Birthdays, Checkouts, Clinics
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.92a.960607092554.156553C-100000@homer13.u.washington.edu>
1. Well since I wasn't able to be here for part of yesterday to do this,
HAPPY BELATED (JUNE 6TH) BIRTHDAY STEVE VAI!!!
2. Checkout in one hour. UW's been interesting. I think I'll be back.
3. See ya'll at the clinic. ;)
4. "This prophecy Merlin shall make, for I live before his time."
--Fool, "King Lear"
Bafu VAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
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Date: Fri, 07 Jun 1996 10:56:22 -0600
From: BILL HUSTON <HUSTON@IOMEGA.COM>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Skadz cheats
Message-ID: <s1b80a53.002@IOMEGA.COM>
Hey Skadz,
Just because you got an EOJ with one jam doesn't mean you can
repost the whole jam again, increment the number as a new jam and
count it as another EOJ ;> I tell ya, supervisors get too many
perks-it just isn't fair.
Wilmo
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Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 14:00:49 -0400
From: elliott@fxn.com (Elliott Kim)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: My New E-Mail Address.. RAH!!!
Message-ID: <19960607180048728.AAA229@mail.fxn.com>
Everyone!!!!
I have jumped on the "Jammers who have ditched AOL" bandwagon!!! My new
e-mail address is:
That is where I will be receiving/reading/replying to my mail from now on...
or at least until further notice... After all, this is the 4th address from
which I've subscribed to the Jam in a little over a year...
So, if you're one of the cool people on the Jam... e-mail me at
elliott@fxn.com from now on. I will keep the AOL account active for a
couple more weeks, to clean up all the loose ends that always come up when
switching e-mail addresses...
Coming soon.... my own homepage!!! Details forthcoming...
Elliott Kim, elliott@fxn.com
No funky ASCII doodles...No profound quotes...Just a plain ol' .signature
file...
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Date: 07 Jun 1996 10:51:10 GMT
From: "Steven Johnson" <svjohnson@amoco.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: (U)Metalli-gridlockers
Message-ID: <199606071758.AA19970@interlock.amoco.com>
I'm looking through the Friday section of the Chicago Tribune and they review
the new Metallica album and acoompany the text with a photo. I know it's about
the music, but (especially after hearing Jam reviews of the album being closer
to TBA, though not a clone) their image in the pic it ridiculous! A fedora on
Kirk Hammet? Late '70s/early '80s shirts?!?! They fuckin' look like Van Halen
on the 1984 album? And people are trying to tell me these guys still lead
theway for the metal genre?
HEADLINE: "Metallica goes for shiny mainstream sound on its latest album"
"The new release sounds tame....and strangely dated (you call this maturing?).
The group's songwriting and arranging have improved in a commercial sense.
Metallica can no-longer be considered a speed-metal band.
"'2X4' attempts a bit of a greasy Aerosmith-like groove, 'Ronnie' appropriates
a bluesy Savoy Brown riff, 'Till it Sleeps' aspires to the granduer of a Led
Zeppelin ballad."
"But the album is far from an embarrasment, though 'Load' is easily the band's
_least innovative_ (oh, sure...they're maturing and progressing nicely--Hootic
a and the Metalfish)."
I'll finalize my own judgement when I hear the disc myself. But don't mistake
change in direction for maturation. You can musically mature without selling
out. I finally heard the single and I must say I'm disappointed.
Bold for them? Yes. Good for metal fans. No.
Steve
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"You may remember me from such movies as 'Dial M for
Murderousness' and 'The Erotic Adventures of Hurcules'"
- actor Troy McClure
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Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 13:59:16 -0400
From: Kris Claerhout <100522.625@compuserve.com>
To: "INTERNET:ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Savatage
Message-ID: <199606071404_MC1-48B-55DC@compuserve.com>
I worked with them for the warp-up show in Heino Holland and the Dynamo. I
was the Dutch Promoter rep and they kicked ass live! They got Vinnie
Kowalski (Dream Theater) as a engeneer with them!
Kris
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Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 18:46:34 GMT
From: KWMadden@usa.pipeline.com (Kevin Madden)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: James Murphy (ndtc)
Message-ID: <199606071846.SAA17092@pipe2.t2.usa.pipeline.com>
Ok, fans go ahead...
>>Hi Kevin,
>>Thanks for writing me, Yes it's cool to give out my email address. I look
>>forward to hearing from anyone who is interested in my activities post -
>>Testament
>>Thanks, James Murphy - jmurphtest@aol.com
-- Kevin (kwmadden@usa.pipeline.com)------------------------------
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 15:11:01 -0400 (EDT) From: John McCabe <caber1@cris.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Liar & no 10s :( Message-ID: <199606071911.PAA13830@darius.cris.com>
>I have not been on the JAM for the last Year and a half, but I guess some You liar you were just on the last jam! Do I get reward? ;D --------- Hey, how come nobody is sending me their TOP 10 lists of musicans with their instrustments! Send it to: caber1@pop3.cris.com
John
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Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 21:29:19 +0200 (MET DST) From: Andrija Bosnjakovic <metalhead@galeb.etf.bg.ac.yu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: New Metallica (again and again) Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.91.960607211909.28275B-100000@galeb.etf.bg.ac.yu>
So, here is my little contribution to 'Load' discussion: 1. Short hairs S.U.C.K! 2. New logo looks as good as the album cover does. 3. Album cover looks as attractive as it's name is. 4. About the music on the CD (finally) - this is only Metallica record that didn't come in my ears at first. I'm listening to it intensively for a few days, but I don't like it as much as previous five records. It is not bad, but ... not my type.
Andrija Bosnjakovic (metalhead@galeb.etf.bg.ac.yu)
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Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 15:31:58 -0400 (EDT) From: John McCabe <caber1@cris.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: 2 of a kind Message-ID: <199606071931.PAA19239@darius.cris.com>
I got 2 of the same jam? This is just to increase skadz ratio of EoJ, right? Also, someone wrote awhile back what was Jimmy moaning at the end of PMU. Well, I don't know but could someone please tell me!
John "I never said I wouldn't play with you, I say _maybe_ I wouldn't play with you" -Annoying kid next door
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Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 16:53:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Keegan <akeegan@liii.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Skadz Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960607164854.23493A-100000@oak.liii.com>
On Thu, 6 Jun 1996, Mithrandir wrote:
> I just thought that I would post my opinions of Mr. Skadz. I believe > that the comment about "That laim school in Huntington" thing was aimed > directly at me and my alumnus St. Anthony's.
You went to high school with St. Anthony? cool! So, what's you and St. Ant's Alma Mater?
> Well let us just say that I > know two other graduates from your High school, and they are both freaks. I
Skadz runs the Marillion list, and I'm on it, so I guess we are 'Freaks'. Is that supposed to be an insult. <--- Itchy says no.
:)
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