YTSEJAM digest 1636

Date: Fri Jun 21 1996 - 04:04:17 EDT

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    Today's Topics:

      1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1635
     by buster <>
      2) Jealous!
     by buster <>
      3) YTSEJAM digest 1635
      4) Re: Request
      5) Wylde guitar
     by RipZero <>
      6) Re: _THE_ FINAL WORD
     by NuGgeTMaN <>
      7) Replies and Stuph ...
     by "Ryan P. Skadberg" <>
      8) LuvYaSkadz ! :-)
     by Mark Bredius <>
      9) First of all
     by (Sledge)
     10) Petrucci Video
     by (Aaron K Silverman)
     11) PC Expo
     by jbako01 <>
     12) KEU not "Q"
     by Mithrandir <>
     13) Haggar? Roth? eh?
     14) Rush's attitude? EXCUSE me?
     by (Gordon McFee)
     15) APB...Mojo is wrong sometimes...
     by "Frank Benenati" <>
     16) to members (WWW generated email)
     by Momo Mano <I.haven'>
     17) to members (WWW generated email)
     by Momo Mano <I.haven'>


    Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 12:45:30 -0400
    From: buster <>
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1635
    Message-ID: <>

    > Ernie Wrote:

    > I've come to the conclusion that, compared to ALL musicians, the guys in DT
    > aren't THAT impressive... let's say they are very good.

    > Let's face it, in the rock world alone, there are many guitarists that can
    > out-shred Petrucci.
    > As for Portnoy, well he really doesn't impress me much.

    ha! hahaha! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAAA!!! Sorry Ernie, but I never suspected
    you of being a complete fucking moron until now. I know the name calling is
    childish, but at least I've managed to refrain from posting what I
    REALLY thought about you when I read this. It would have been rude....

    flame away,


    Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 12:55:32 -0400
    From: buster <>
    Subject: Jealous!
    Message-ID: <>

    To all you Jammers who went to the recent JP clinic together:

    I just wanted to let you know how really really jealous you've made me!
    It sounds like you all had a blast! Wish I was there too...

    Also, I want to say that I probably should've thought before
    I pressed the send button in my last post regarding Ernie...
    It was a reflex :) But still, DT not THAT impressive?



    Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 13:00:05, -0500
    Subject: YTSEJAM digest 1635
    Message-ID: <>

    >Jon C. Sanford
    >164 Mill Point Drive
    >Hampton, VA 23669

    >"Subscribe Ytsejam (Jon Sanford)"

    oh boy...THIS is BAD. somebody want to help this poor soul? they
    seem to be QUITE lost...i would myself, but i tried to help someone
    once, and they were quite rude about good deed goes

    "...the weasel squeaks faster than a seven day week..." - Tori Amos,

    "...every road leads back to my door,
        every road i will follow,
        every road leads back to my door,
        got all your lines crossed..." - Tori Amos,
                          In The Springtime of His Voodoo



    Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 13:29:39 PST
    To: robert.henderson@ICDC.COM
    Subject: Re: Request
    Message-ID: <>

    On Thu, 20 Jun 1996 02:33:12 -0500 robert.henderson@ICDC.COM writes:

    >Hey Felix, you wouldn't happen to have the addresses for those Ivanhow
    >and Facade (CD purchasing?) web sites on hand, would you?
    >Brian Henderson, Cyberburlap

    sure do:

    Avalanche/Bonaire Records:

    Dreg Records:


    -= Felix =-


    Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 12:39:46 -0500
    From: RipZero <>
    To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <>
    Subject: Wylde guitar
    Message-ID: <>

    Sup Jammaz,
            Zakk Wylde just released his latest solo album a few days back.
     Anyone heard anything from it? I think i'm gonna go pick it up later,
    considering that Pride & Glory album he did hauled major ass.... at
    some points its almost like youre really listening to Skynyrd,
    everythings got such a great jive, tunes like this havent been made by a
    fresh band in years. Very cool track- Fadin' Away. Big progressive
    piece done with piano, 12 string guitars and the whole Seattle Symphony
    Orchestra. You dont get much better than that.

    My highlighs from the night of the JP Clinic-

      -sat around wishing i could make it up to Boston.

    welp, that about covers it.



    Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 14:28:47 -0400 (EDT)
    From: NuGgeTMaN <>
    To: "Ryan P. Skadberg" <>
    Subject: Re: _THE_ FINAL WORD
    Message-ID: <>

    Ryan you GO with your bad self!!!! I couldn't have said it any better!!!
    Way to keep us KiDS in line man! :)

    ^ According to the circle of fifths, and the order of sharps and flats: ^
    ^ If the alphabet continued as notes progressed (Using Major Key Sigs) ^
    ^ (i.e. A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, etc.) eventually the key of Z Major ^
    ^ would have 4 sharps. ^
    ^ Statistics show that if a person is born with Perfect Pitch, chances ^
    ^ are they will grow up to be a famous...Baseball Player!!! :) ^
    ^ ^
    ^ "Just Lighten up and listen to the Music" -Kevin Moore (inside joke) ^
    ^ ^
    ^ Eric Moegling: ^
    ^ ^
    ^ ^
    ^ HOMEPAGE - ^


    Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 14:30:59 -0400 (EDT)
    From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" <>
    Subject: Replies and Stuph ...
    Message-ID: <>

    Hey all ...

            Me again. I have been posting just all too much lately :)
    Basically my post yesterday was not personally pointed at anyone.
    I purposely did that. I am not going to point fingers. If I wanted
    to point any fingers, it would be at myself because I have not had
    the time or energy to try to calm things down before. I basically
    just want this list back to what it used to be and hopefully it will
    get back to that. 1635 was definately more content filled and
    less Metallica filled. Some people may argue that Metallica is
    related to DT, but ever heard something about a dead horse?

    Now for some replies....

    1633 ....

    Jim Beavens wrote:

    > I'm glad that DT appreciates us 'jammers (or if they don't appreciate
    > us, at least they tolerate us and are nice to us =).

    Its definately the first part. They definately appreciate support.
    Bands like Rush and alot of other bands enjoy alot more popularity
    than DT and to them a fan is a fan whether he/she is on some computer
    mailing list or not. Dream Theater is definately more appreciative of
    their fans and I think they appreciate and enjoy the fact that some
    of us are such die-hards that will can talk about them every day and
    hardly ever get bored with it.

    The only problem now is that I think we who were at the clinic on
    Tuesday scared JP :)

    BILL HUSTON asked about clinics....

            We asked John the other night and he said that he was doing
    one at Manny's in NYC in July some time and another in CT in the next
    few months, but didn't mention anything other than those for himself.
    He also mentioned Mike is currently doing clinics in Australia.

    John McCabe said:

    > Now for some info well I'm going to just cut off my Top 10 list
    > thing because in Skads post he said no new Top 10 lists :o

    SkadZ not Skads :)

    The deal with Top Ten lists is that they clutter up the jam. Steve
    from Tuscon did a top ten list the 100% correct way and I thanked
    him for it. He asked people to send him their lists and gave them
    a dealine and once it was all done, he posted results. It was perfect.
    The only minor annoyance was that he posted asking for more input
    EVERY day :)


    That funky fresh master of disaster wildkoba wrote:

    > josh i think wrote that about the new dt stuff. don't recall slayer riffs in
    > dt stuff, but i guess i hear ya.

    Didn't Portnoy use a Slayer riff in one of his Drum Solos?

    Adam Cook wrote:

    > Well finally some DT to talk about, I was at the clinic last night too!

    Ummmm, you were? Why didn't I meet you???? Or did I and am just getting
    senile in my old age?

    > "Erotomania and Ytsejam" - some guy
    Hey that was me.

    O I C :)

    Seth Hatlelid wrote:

    > As a fellow six string bassist I know just what Myung is doing and
    > more importantly, what he is NOT doing.

    Ummmm, like talking?? ;)

    1635 (I liked this one :).....

    Syrinx wrote:

    > - Watching John do his Chopin exercise. His wife must be very
    > happy...due to his fast fingers. =)

    Bad Syrinx :P

    Wow... not too much to reply to this time.

    Back to work.


    | Ryan P Skadberg                          |
    | s y s t e m . a d m i n i s t r a t o r / w e b . d e v e l o p  e r  |
    | |
    \    "And every prayer we pray at night has somehow lost its meaning"   /
     \                "Dead Winter Dead"  - Savatage                       /


    Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 22:06:42 +-200 From: Mark Bredius <> To: "'Majesty-Mailinglist'" <> Subject: LuvYaSkadz ! :-) Message-ID: <>

    "_THE_ FINAL WORD" Finally ! LuvYaSkadz ! :-)

    > ...and if they post again, they lose the jam. Its in the letter you > get when you join, you get 1 warning.

    I was wondering what it would take to get this warning... I mean, had I been Skadz (one can dream) I'd kicked some major ass already... Why dontcha 'warn' people who have a tendency to flame the hell out of others for no good reason ? Or people who are pissing others off, just looking to get flamed...

    > This list has really gotten bad lately.

    To tell ya the truth, I've just been skipping posts for the past couple of weeks. To think I felt bad about not having internet XS, a few weeks back, and missing all those jams... After a while I just skipped every single message that mentioned 'M' (NOT Marillion, the other one).

    A couple of days ago I unsubscribed 'Itchy' ( After my = provider's recent problems, I resubscribed using my address, 'cause I thought I had been 'bounced' off the list. Much to my surprise, I was still subscribed through my usual account, so I was getting every jam TWICE (the HORROR!). Unsubscribing 'Itchy' felt really good, and skipping all those posts made me think of leaving the list all together. I'm still considering it. Maybe I'll just do it, and resubscribe 'round the time the next album will be released... Please, don't be a baby and tell me to "fuck myself" and "get off this list if I don't like it". I'm just venting and hoping for some DTC or info on other cool bands, other than a zillions opinions on just ONE album.

    Isn't there a way to set up temporary lists to discuss off-topic threads like that ? Skadz could give the info on how to join such a list, and get rid of it after the thread ends... Just a thought... Skadz ?

    I'm willing to listen to any band that gets some bandwith on this list. That's how I got into Tori Amos and, recently, King Crimson... But this 'load' of crap really turned me off to 'M'. At this point I just feel like throwing up whenever I hear or see that name... Btw, I just saw a pic of 'them' in a Dutch music mag, and I have to say they really *DO* look like U2 these days... only a bit more angry/hostile/mad/pissed. Sorry, just IMVHO... No flames please...

    ________________________________________________________________________ Itchy (NOT Bitchy), - Mark Bredius, ________________________________________________________________________ We live our lives in private shells (The Last Straw) / \___/ \__ ignore our senses and fool ourselves [ / ~ ^ \ ]_ into thinking that out there there's someone else cares | ) p__q ( |_ someone to answer all our prayers... all our prayers... (/(_-('')-_)\)_ __________________________________________________________(..)____(..)__ "twinkie shoots out white stuff when you squeeze it" =A9 Rip/Twinkie = '96


    Date: Thu, 20 Jun 96 18:08 EDT From: (Sledge) To: Subject: First of all Message-ID: <>

    <<<<<<< First of all >>>>>>>>

    THIS IS FOR MAPE.. I don't have to appollagize for shit.. Grinder did the same exact thing.. NOW can we please get back to Dream Theater. .. sheeesszz

    <<<<<<< Second of all >>>>>>>>

    DO YOU people OWN this mailing list??? stop telling everyone what to do just because you're some old mature person doesn't mean you can tell every one else what to do.


    Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 18:08:01 PST From: (Aaron K Silverman) To: Subject: Petrucci Video Message-ID: <>

    >>To that person who got the "rock discipline" video ... Iforgot where you=20 >>got it. could you tell me where you ordered the video from? I can only=20 >>find it in guitar mags for $50!

    I got it at the Sam Ash sheet music store in Times Square. A couple of months ago they had a big sale to "Grand Open" some new stores in Florida, and all the sheet music and videos were on sale. Normally, I think they sell it for $50, and I got it for $40.



    Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 21:25:25 -0400 (EDT) From: jbako01 <> To: Subject: PC Expo Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960620211656.25715A-100000@barney>

    ..not totally off topic, but what the hell;

    I managed to catch the last day of the PC Expo here in NY. This marked the first year in which they had a 'Music and Technology' section here at the expo. Guess who was doing the demo for Kurzweil?

    Yep, none other than 'one-time' DT member Jordan Rudess.

    Some of you might well remember the winter gigs in which he and Rod Morgenstein opened up for a couple of the DT shows. Well, he told me that their album is almost complete, after which they will shop it around to any interested record labels. Currently the duo will go under the moniker of RPM (Rudess-Morgenstein Project). He also told me that he is still involved with Dixie Dregs, who are on hiatus due to Steve Morse's commitment with Deep Purple.

    It was just about the last place I thought I'd find him. Too bad I didn't get the chance to go to the expo on the previous two days, so more of you could check him out (most people watching the demo seemed too disinterested, but his immense talent and ability is, to me, jaw-dropping).

    James Bako "Don't tell me you wanted me Don't tell me you thought of me Polytechnic University I won't, I swear I won't Brooklyn, New York I'll try, I swear I'll try" Dream Theater - "Lie"


    Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 19:34:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Mithrandir <> To: Subject: KEU not "Q" Message-ID: <>

    This is for all of those out there who cannot stand KEU. He is not a DT fan. He works with a certain DT fan on the jam, and he one day looked over this DT fans shoulder and thought that he might like to be a prick and start up lot's of fights. Now I have never met keu, but his co-worker is a real cool guy, so don't blame him if you guess who it is. My advice to you is to just ignore all of his posts and as with all stupid people he will eventually go away.

    Quote of the day from "Q" " You obtuse piece of flotsam"

    Question for all Sci Fi fans: In a battle between the Enterprise NCC-1701D and an Imperial Star Destroyer, who would win? Input is appreciated. Elen sila lumenn omentilmo, Mithrandir


    Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 22:40:26 -0500 From: To: Subject: Haggar? Roth? eh? Message-ID: <>





    I heard on the radio today that Vh is dumpping haggar for roth for the howard stern Movie comming out in feb. anyone else hear this?

    in ny it was said on Q104.3

    anyway to follow th guide lines of the jam

    I think i like awake from DT




    Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 02:01:20 -0400 From: (Gordon McFee) To: Subject: Rush's attitude? EXCUSE me? Message-ID: <>

    >I've got another reason to propose: they've heard the material and it sounds >better than their versions! Couldn't it be possible?

    Doubtful. As much "respect" as I have for Mr. Big and Dream Theater, I have serious doubts they could hold a candle to Rush.

    >I have a lot of respect for Rush, as it was my favorite band from 81 to 87 >(when I discovered Majesty...) and it is still one of my fav. But I'm >disappointed by their attitude, or more exactly the attitude of their >management. And allow me to think, regarding the list of the guys involved >in the Rush tribute, that the covers could beat the original songs.

    Rush's attitude is that you do tribute bands for bands that are retired. It makes them feel their age (Alex in the BMG Magazine Sound Choice). And quite frankly it is their right to choose whether or not their songs are covered and sold for profit! This doesn't mean I'm not going to buy the tribute album, but I think you have a lot of nerve suggesting that every band that gets their songs ripped off ought to appreciate it being done!

    >This last reason could be a good one. They should have choose another >release date. But maybe the solution of this conflict will be to release the >tribute after the official album of Rush.

    AFAIK, Rush doesn't want a tribute album. Period. When you think about it they aren't a very retrospective group. They didn't even approve of Chronicles (the greatest hits 2-CD). They just put out their live albums every now and then and that's it. Really makes you wonder if the boys will ever put out a box set, but so it goes.

    -- "To seek the sacred river Alph, and walk the caves of ice..." - Rush "Ashes and Diamonds,Foe and Friend/We were all equal in the end." -Pink Floyd "The sands of time were eroded by the river of constant change." - Genesis "Others steal your thoughts they're not confined within your mind"-DreamTheater


    Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 02:01:43 -0400 From: "Frank Benenati" <> To: "" <> Subject: APB...Mojo is wrong sometimes... Message-ID: <>

    Hello Jammers,

    I just wanted to apologize to the public about my posts concerning Homosexuality... After a little bit of soul searching, some personal discussions with jammers, and trying to understand exactly why I am here on the Jam....I've come to the conclusion that what I said was wrong....dead wrong.... Homosexuality isn't very much different from being a different race, religion or even liking a different type of a musician and a human being, I shouldn't have said the things I did...especially if want to retain my own self worth. I know there are jammers out there that are different than me, and by being very pig headed, I've begun to alienate myself from the jam....something I don't want to do....

    Again...those of you that were offend (hetero or homosexual)... I am sorry!! I ended up starting a tangent on the Jam that I'm ashamed of...If I were just subscribing, and I saw those posts, I wouldn't want to be a jammer....I think the long post by Skadz, a couple of jams back, made me realize that the ytsejam is here for several reasons....but NOT for insensitive posts...or irrelavent topics.... m o j o m a n s p e a k s....

    P.S. Skadz...I hope don't mind this particular post not having any DT content....


    Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 03:54:48 -0400 From: Momo Mano <I.haven'> To: Subject: to members (WWW generated email) Message-ID: <>

    Hi,I'm 19-old Japanese garl.I'm a one of great DREAM-THEATER fan.I went to all of your Japan Tour from here NAGOYA. I'm a student of Nagoya University of Forighn Stadies. I want to ask you a questions. First,When were Jhon.P and James's babys born ? So,I must go to part-time job. See you ! Momo


    Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 03:55:12 -0400 From: Momo Mano <I.haven'> To: Subject: to members (WWW generated email) Message-ID: <>

    Hi,I'm 19-old Japanese garl.I'm a one of great DREAM-THEATER fan.I went to all of your Japan Tour from here NAGOYA. I'm a student of Nagoya University of Forighn Stadies. I want to ask you a questions. First,When were Jhon.P and James's babys born ? So,I must go to part-time job. See you ! Momo


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