YTSEJAM Digest 1637
Today's Topics:
1) Mike Portnoy - Australian Drum Clinic
by "Don't Stop Believing" <eddym@connexus.apana.org.au>
2) subscribing and Rush
by subtlerage@gnn.com (Andrew Miller)
3) Lesson 1: How to air guitar DT's guitar solos.
by "D_TiCian" <s7700020@singnet.com.sg>
4) dt's technical abilites
by <raitz@guvatrak.online.ee> "Raivo Hool"
5) YTSEJAM digest 1636
by keu@pointblank.com
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1636
by WarrenDW@aol.com
7) Facade
by steve@kandu.com (Steve Lehrfeld)
8) couple of replies & questions
by jpenna@trc.tosco.com
9) Tori Amos/Metallica/USENET
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
10) RQ's CD Player / SD Carved in Stone
by as459@ctcdbs.ctc.cummins.com (A G Stiles)
11) status of the Prog Compilation CD
by steve@kandu.com (Steve Lehrfeld)
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1636
by btomko@home.glasscity.net
13) Hi again ...
by "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 20:14:24 -0700
From: "Don't Stop Believing" <eddym@connexus.apana.org.au>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mike Portnoy - Australian Drum Clinic
Message-ID: <31CB6510.3824@connexus.apana.org.au>
Mike appeared at the Ultimate Drummers Weekend in Melbourne on June
15/16. On the second day, he performed with the local covers band Theater
of Dreams.
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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 05:08:00
From: subtlerage@gnn.com (Andrew Miller)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: subscribing and Rush
Message-ID: <199606211007.GAA03399@mail-e2b-service.gnn.com>
>From: UMJG72D@prodigy.com (MS ANNA M STIGLIC)
>>Jon C. Sanford
>>164 Mill Point Drive
>>Hampton, VA 23669
>
>>"Subscribe Ytsejam (Jon Sanford)"
>
>oh boy...THIS is BAD. somebody want to help this poor soul? they
>seem to be QUITE lost...i would myself, but i tried to help someone
>once, and they were quite rude about it...no good deed goes
>unpunished...
i sent this guy an email with the correct info for subscribing. i also
asked him if he could recall the URL of the page that he found the link
that he used. as someone once said, there's a page out there that has a
link to ytsejam@ax.com that shouldn't be there. you can just do like i did
on my page and just type out the instructions.
anyway, this guy hasn't responded yet, but i kinda hope he does. maybe
we'll be able to end the mystery.
>From: ai292@freenet.carleton.ca (Gordon McFee)
>To: ytsejam@ax.com
>Subject: Rush's attitude? EXCUSE me?
>
>going to buy the tribute album, but I think you have a lot of nerve
>suggesting that every band that gets their songs ripped off ought to
>appreciate it being done!
maybe i'm missing something, but how could Magna Carta record and release a
tribute album that rips off Rush? Magna Carta is a legitimate record
company and it seems to me that they would be shut down with a huge
copyright infringement suit if they did so. my understanding of copyright
law is that anyone can cover a song on an album if they obtain a mechanical
license and negotiate royalties with the legal copyright holders. does
Rush own the copyrights to their work, or does the record company? perhaps
if Rush didn't hold the copyrights, negotiations would have bypassed them,
but i don't know. this would explain why the band hadn't heard about the
album. but i'm no law expert. if anyone has a good understanding of
copyright law, fill me in, would ya? :)
i really hope the Tribute is released, 'cause i'm dying to hear The Boys
playin some Rush tracks on a studio release.
"My uncle has a country place that no one knows about...."
seeya
Andrew
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Andrew Miller - Songwriter/Keyboardist/Singer
- SubtleRage (progressive rock)
- Interum (new age/prog instrumental)
http://members.gnn.com/subtlerage/
subtlerage@gnn.com
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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 18:20:01 +8GMT
From: "D_TiCian" <s7700020@singnet.com.sg>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Lesson 1: How to air guitar DT's guitar solos.
Message-ID: <199706221019.SAA06559@sunflower.singnet.com.sg>
Let's see, there's some dtc in this one. I guess.
Description of guitar solos. Like what kind of face goes with which DT
solo. U know, for us air guitarists.
Title: Pull me under
Desc: "Since when does your mouth play a wah-wah? solo."
How-To: While air guitaring, open your mouth and mimick the sound a
baby crying. Be sure to rock at least one foot.
Title: Another Day
Desc: "I've got anguish and pain solo."
How-To: Close you eyes and distort your face such that u
seem to be in lots of pain. And bend those bends.
Title: Take the time
Desc: (Keyboard + guitar solo)
How-To: While u pretend fingering guitar frets move your other
finger as if you're playing a keyboard.
Desc: (Fade out guitar solo) "Whammy sally solo"
How-To: After every note shake your picking hand as if you're urm,
heh. Then, Brush both hands up and down as if you're trying to brush
something off the fret board
Title: Under a Glass Moon
Desc: "Drop your jaw, open your eyes wide, drool, and stare in awe
solo" How-To: Wriggle your fingers real quick.
The end.
=====================================================
Chan Zhi Hong, Darryl = D_TiCian = dtc
s7700020@singnet.com.sg || dtician@pacific.net.sg
http://www.singnet.com.sg/~s7700020
~Young enough not to care too much, about the way things used to be...
I'm old enough not to care too much, about what you think of me...~
-rush, Cut to the chase
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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 14:16:26 -2000
From: <raitz@guvatrak.online.ee> "Raivo Hool"
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: dt's technical abilites
Message-ID: <9606211129.AA29989@pepe.online.ee>
>> Let's face it, in the rock world alone, there are many guitarists that can
>> out-shred Petrucci.
>> As for Portnoy, well he really doesn't impress me much.
>ha! hahaha! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAAA!!! Sorry Ernie, but I never suspected
>you of being a complete fucking moron until now. I know the name calling is
on second thought however you may understand that he might as well be
right. partly, that is, but still right.
you know, there definitely are many guitarists that can outdo
petrucci. petrucci considers steve vai and al dimeola (for example)
his idols or something, but having interviewed vai, i must tell that
even that guy feels as if he's not worth to hold a candle to many
guitarists out there.
i can't really compare myung to anybody since i know less than
nothing about good bass players (aside from claypool, cliff burton
and billy sheehan), nor do i have a high-end audio system to figure
out any complex bass lines, so i leave it all untouched.
but...
mike portnoy's drumming is one of the finest works i've ever heard.
period. ranks with terry bozzio any day a week. i know many drummers,
some of whom could leave many well-known performers gasping for air.
i've still not heard *any* bad word about portnoy from them. vice
versa. nobody's perfect though.
an opera singer once happened to be around when i was listening to
"awake" and she almost jumped when she heard "innocence faded". she
said james could be well off if he turned to classical music. in rock
music (in general) i haven't heard a better singer, but as mentioned
below... (see next paragraph)
those guys are definitely so well-trained and highly educated that it
really takes an expert to work out who's better than who. at least
it's way beyond *my* grasp.
raitz
p.s. flames to /dev/null
"I screamed until my thraot was sore,
then quoth the raven, 'Nevermore!'"
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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 07:44:50 -0500
From: keu@pointblank.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: YTSEJAM digest 1636
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.6.21.7.44.50.2377490627.1361137@pointblank.com>
This is for all of those out there who cannot stand KEU. He is
not a DT fan. He works with a certain DT fan on the jam, and he one
day looked over this DT fans shoulder and thought that he might like
to be a ***** and start up lot's of fights. Now I have never met keu,
but his co-worker is a real cool guy, so don't blame him if you guess
who it is. My advice to you is to just ignore all of his posts and as
with all stupid people he will eventually go away.
WHO THE **** DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?
IF YOU WANT TO SAY **** ABOUT ME GET YOUR ****ING
FACTS STREIGHT *******
1st off that wasnt the orgional intention Of ME
signing on to this list.
2nd of off Your WRONG DEAD WRONG. The "co-worker"
you above mentioned Happened to get This "Jam" on the company E-mail
address's I happened to see it. And thought it would be nice to post
3rd off I Actully have posted intelligent things
here BUT i guess you have to be in the Ytsejam "Clique" to get noticed.
4th off HOW MANY FREAKING TIMES CAN YOU GUYS TALK
ABOUT THE SAME ****ING THING? "Oh i Like Myung, Oh Awake is a great cd"
GOD EXPAND into different topics. Has this ever been brought up? The
style of music that Dt Plays. Why is it so popular in Japan and not in
the us? PROB. NOT! why? cause NO ONE EVER READ MY POST From 2 months
ago.
5th off Ever hear of a JOKE? SCARCASM? A LITTLE
FUN? God the internet and it's contents are suppose to be a huge
conglomerate of people's ideas, thoughts, sugestions, and most of all
opinions! Just because I post a Question that was off topic (HELL
WHY NOT HOW MANY MORE POSTS CAN U SEE OF METALLICA??) Doesnt mean Flame
me beause of the way i answered it. WHY NOT REPLY IN A CONCICE
INTELLIGENT ANSWER?
6th off DONT EVER link me with the "co-worker"
that was named. He is not responsable for me comming on this yes (we not
directly) I didnt go to him and ask his PERMISSION to sign on here HE IS
NOT MY MOMMY OR DADDY SO GET A ****ING CLUE Supposed FRIEND and IF IT
WASNT FOR ME YOU WOULNT BE POSTING HERE NIGHT NOW.
So i hope this sums up Why I am here. Now please
continue on with your life's and keep on Jammin...
PS "Quote of the day from "Q" " You obtuse piece of flotsam""
Boy for a guy who supposly never saw me. How could you
make such a statement? Oh thats right Your Pea sized brain cant handle
the Big words you just typed so you needed to quote them youself.
your nothing but a Hapless moonclaf spewing your Mindless
dribble out for all to see and might think you have some type of
intelligence.
Keu Has Bellowed
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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 09:23:25 -0400
From: WarrenDW@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1636
Message-ID: <960621092325_561028415@emout13.mail.aol.com>
In a message dated 96-06-21 04:04:08 EDT, you write:
<<
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 96 18:08 EDT
From: sledge@allinux1.alliance.net (Sledge)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: First of all
Message-ID: <m0uWruE-001CWBC@alliance.net>
<<<<<<< First of all >>>>>>>>
THIS IS FOR MAPE.. I don't have to appollagize for shit..
<<<<<<< Second of all >>>>>>>>
DO YOU people OWN this mailing list??? stop telling everyone what to do
just because you're some old mature person doesn't mean you can tell every
one else what to do.
>>
YEAH...and your butt stinks too, you are a big doo-doo head.
Appollagize(SP???)
ALSO...the most mispelled word on the Jam..definitely
Warren in Oregon soundiing off on the important things in life
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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 09:35:16 +0000
From: steve@kandu.com (Steve Lehrfeld)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Facade
Message-ID: <19960621132907977.AAA51@steve.kandu.com>
Since some of you have been asking around how to order the Facade CD,
i'll repost the information.
Facade is a new and interesting prog band in the vein of DT, QR, FW,
as well as less prog styles of Dokken, Pearl Jam, etc. Their new CD,
"fade" is available for a limited time promotional price of just $8 +($2
S/H in the US, $4 S/H international). Send check, money-order, cash,
international postal order, etc. to:
DREG Records
Facade "fade"
1912 Old Stonemill Dr
Cranbury, NJ 08512
Or visit their website for more info on the album, download song
samples, read the rave reviews, etc:
http://bigbrain.com/dreg/facade.html
Facade is starting to gain international attention via sales to the far
corners of the world including Japan, the Netherlands, UK, etc. Also,
they are getting radio airplay on various non-commercial stations as
well as foreign stations from places like Mexico and Lithuania. Join
the revolution...
-steve
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DREG Records homepage:
http://www.bigbrain.com/dreg/
Facade homepage: (check out the new CD!)
http://www.bigbrain.com/dreg/facade.html
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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 96 09:26:28 EST
From: jpenna@trc.tosco.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: couple of replies & questions
Message-ID: <9605218353.AA835374466@trcinternet.brc.tosco.com>
good day, eh...
re: VH: i heard the same thing on 104.3 in NY yesterday, 6/20
about Van Halen. however, the dj did make it clear that it was
just a rumour and cannot be either confirmed or denied. a
listener called in and said he heard this from a friend in LA. he
said Eddie fired Sammy, he called Dave and Dave was on a plane.
as to the validity of this story, we'll have wait and see.
to Mithrandir: regarding your question of which would win, a Star
Destroyer or Enterprise - D, a clarification is necessary. is the
Star Destroyer a regular one or a super Star Destroyer like
Vader's flagship? oh, and say "hi" to Elrond for me....
i've kind of been busy here at work and lost track of some of the
threads and whatnot. so i was wondering if we ever found out what
Mike's DT secret was. anybody know? also, i've seen talk of
Metropolis. is part 2 gonna be on the new album.
RUSH tribute album: they don't want it. their not done yet.
they'd rather a band acknowledge RUSH as an influence than do a
tribute ablum. tributes are for bands who aren't around anymore,
according to Alex, RUSH plans to stay around for a while. that's
all.
got milk?
--JP
the mad immortal man...
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* greet a passing stranger *
* feel the strength in his hand *
* feel the world expand *
* - NP, 1989 *
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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 09:43:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Tori Amos/Metallica/USENET
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960621093547.27587D-100000@bdmserver>
If anyone is interested VH1 is showing a half hour "crossroads" show with
Tori Amos on Sunday at 11:30pm EST. It was on the other night and I was
going to record it but I thought it was starting a half hour later then
when it really did. Supposedly she is suppose to do 3 covers and one
original song. I did see her do her last song and it was "Over the Rainbow".
Did anyone catch Metallica's Rockumentary? This would make some good
conversation but we aren't allowed...
Has anyone been following the DT and Queensryche newsgroup? I think I
spend so much time defending DT on the QR newsgroup. I dont get it. How
come DT fans have so much more class than QR (no DT) fans? Most DT fans
were QR fans before they became DT fans. I never see DT fans saying QR
sucks just QR only fans saying DT sucks. If anyone is bored you should
check out the newsgroups alt.music.dream-theater and
rec.music.artists.queensryche Someone needs to kill Mindcrimer or
MIndWHINER since every post he posts he says DT sucks...
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| Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com |
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| "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater |
| "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files |
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|The Baltimore Orioles-The team to beat in 1996!!!!!!! | Go DC United! |
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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 08:52:01 -0500
From: as459@ctcdbs.ctc.cummins.com (A G Stiles)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Cc: RQuezada@shell.monmouth.com
Subject: RQ's CD Player / SD Carved in Stone
Message-ID: <199606211352.IAA03591@wks1-48.cummins.com>
To anyone who is interested....
I just completed the .txt file for Shadow Gallery's
Carved in Stone for use with RQ's CD player for
Windoze95. If anyone would like to have it, e-mail
me with something descriptive in the subject so I can
discern it from the rest of my mail.
&E
Andrew G. Stiles as459@ctc.cummins.com astil00@mail.cpbx.net
_ __
O | ___________(_)___ _ | / \__@ _
__ /\ __ | / \___ (_) | \__/ \_ _______(_)__,
/ \\ / \ | ____/ | __/ ` '
_\__//_\__/___ | ULTIMATE | MOUNTAIN / \ BIKING
CYCLING '``'```'`'`'``'`'``'' ________\__/^_________
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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 10:19:20 +0000
From: steve@kandu.com (Steve Lehrfeld)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: status of the Prog Compilation CD
Message-ID: <19960621141312820.AAA70@steve.kandu.com>
As announced a few months ago, DREG Records is planning to release a
compilation of talented unsigned progressive bands found on the
internet. Well, we received many excellent submissions and have pared
the list down to 12 bands (at least 65 minutes of music). The
official roster is:
Clockwork
Cold Front
Happenstance
Nature's Call
Atlantis
Monster Zero
Inferno
Psychedelic Lullabies
Naked
Facade
The Age Of Reason
tba (can't announce them yet)
There are some DT related bands, some are metal some are rock, some
are undescribable. You can find out more about the bands and songs as
the information becomes available at:
http://www.bigbrain.com/dreg/CompCD.html
Many thanks to all the bands who submitted material. There are so
many talented bands out there that you haven't heard of yet, many of
them right here on the YtseJam!
The release is scheduled for early fall, so keep your eyes peeled...
-steve
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DREG Records homepage:
http://www.bigbrain.com/dreg/
Facade homepage: (check out the new CD!)
http://www.bigbrain.com/dreg/facade.html
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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 10:14:04 -0400
From: btomko@home.glasscity.net
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1636
Message-ID: <B0000152463@home.glasscity.net>
>>>Also, I want to say that I probably should've thought before
>>>I pressed the send button in my last post regarding Ernie...
>>>It was a reflex :)
This was a bit uncalled for. At least you posted this second message. But
this was what Skadz was talking about. If it's an impulse, they've got
shock treatments for that........(sorry)
>>>"Subscribe Ytsejam (Jon Sanford)"
Ok... Whoever mentions Ytsejam in their web sites, please don't put the
posting address online; you're confusing people. If you have to put both
addresses there, PLEASE make it very clear for anyone who visits and decides
to subscribe.
>>> whole Seattle Symphony Orchestra. You dont get much better than that.
The Seattle Symphony is awesome! Check out their recordings with Alan
Hovhaness on Delos records!!
>>>Basically my post yesterday was not personally pointed at anyone.
It needed to be done, but I bet you're now the bullseye of many a dartboard...
>>>Some people may argue that Metallica is related to DT, but ever heard
something about a dead horse? Thank You!!!!!!!!
>>>DO YOU people OWN this mailing list??? stop telling everyone what to do
>>>just because you're some old mature person doesn't mean you can tell every
>>>one else what to do.
Here's a mistake if I ever saw one. Well, somebody has to own it...go fig,
kid..........
Now...Anyone know if DT plans to do an instrumental for their next release?
I hope so...I like James LaBrie, but instrumentals are always refreshing.
(And it gives LaBrie some time to rest his voice........)
Mark Tomko
spector@dreamt.org
-or-
btomko@main.glasscity.net
"How many boards would the Mongols hoard if the Mongol hordes got bored?"
-Calvin
"Don't look into car headlights and freeze, because you'll either get run
over or shot." -Hobbes
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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 11:31:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Hi again ...
Message-ID: <199606211531.LAA12041@wicked.stigmata.org>
Hi all ...
Me again :)
Itchy asked:
> I was wondering what it would take to get this warning... I mean, had I
> been Skadz (one can dream) I'd kicked some major ass already...
Well, basically this is to my discretion, but I'm not going to
pull a JimmyC and get pissed about everything I don't like personally.
You are gonna get warned if you start flaming people publically,
or continuing an off-topic thread on the jam, or saying plain stupidness
which doesn't belong on the jam to begin with. Its basically something
that is going to evolve as the jam goes on to fit whatever problems
are on the jam at that time.
As for being Skadz, just learn too much about UNIX and work for an ISP
and at a big gathering of jammers mention that you would be interested
in helping Ken out with the jam :)
> Isn't there a way to set up temporary lists to discuss off-topic threads
> like that ?
This is kind of ridiculous because there are already newsgroups and
mailing lists out there for every topic imaginable and anything off
topic to hear is probably on topic to another list.
> I'm willing to listen to any band that gets some bandwith on this list.
I wasn't saying that we can't discuss other bands on this list. I have
expanded my CD collection many times from recommendations from the list.
But there is a difference between recommending a band or having a discussion
about a band and what happened with the Metallica discussion.
Sledge said:
> DO YOU people OWN this mailing list??? stop telling everyone what to do
> just because you're some old mature person doesn't mean you can tell every
> one else what to do.
No, but I moderate it. And there are plenty of jammers on the list older
and more mature than me, but I am the moderator and I have to keep the list
in some sort of order. And with that job comes telling people what they
can and can't do on this list. The fact that it is in an unmoderated
list doesn't mean that it has to be a big junk message every day. There is
a purpose behind this list and that's what the content should reflect.
James Bako said:
> Some of you might well remember the winter gigs in which he and Rod
> Morgenstein opened up for a couple of the DT shows. Well, he told me that
> their album is almost complete, after which they will shop it around to
> any interested record labels. Currently the duo will go under the moniker
> of RPM (Rudess-Morgenstein Project).
SHould that be RMP? :) These guys were amazing at the Christmas shows and
I really hope they get a deal real fast. Someone should tell them to
go directly to Magna Carta :)
Mithrandir wrote:
> Question for all Sci Fi fans: In a battle between the Enterprise
> NCC-1701D and an Imperial Star Destroyer, who would win? Input is appreciated.
And please direct all input directly to Mith and not the whole jam.
thankyouverymuch :)
All from me for now....
Skadz
-- +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+ | Ryan P Skadberg skadz@mindstorm.com | | s y s t e m . a d m i n i s t r a t o r / w e b . d e v e l o p e r | | http://www.bluesky.net/skadz/ http://www.dreamt.org/ | +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+ \ "And every prayer we pray at night has somehow lost its meaning" / \ "Dead Winter Dead" - Savatage / +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+------------------------------
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