YTSEJAM Digest 1645
Today's Topics:
1) asdf (WWW generated email)
by Warren Armstrong <warren.armstrong@iig.com.au>
2) Re: now THIS is DT content!!! More please??
by WarrenDW@aol.com
3) ****YOU CAN WIN A (boot) CD by Dream Theater****
by market@clubmet.metrobbs.com
4) ****YOU CAN WIN A (boot) CD by Dream Theater****
by market@clubmet.metrobbs.com
5) ALmost forgot...you can see the stickers
by market@clubmet.metrobbs.com
6) in answer to a ?
by Maraya007@aol.com
7) Re: now THIS is DT content!!! More please??
by "Robert Quezada" <rquezada@shell.monmouth.com>
8) number-one(not-Riker) (WWW generated email)
by Yutaka OTsuka <ootsuk3y@dj.kit.ac.jp>
9) My 1st post...
by Imxtnit@aol.com
10) Green day/new to the list
by "James P. Garrett" <james971@ix.netcom.com>
11) JM bass video
by Monty Newberry <mjnewb@mo.net>
12) An excuse to post - cool :)
by "C.S. Frankel" <96sp211@dvc.edu>
13) Bospop Weert
by Wessel Marquering <Wessel.Marquering@econ.kuleuven.ac.be>
14) being there
by akyuz@ltp.dmx.epfl.ch
15) asdf (WWW generated email)
by Volker Scheunemann <VSCHEUN@T-ONLINE.DE>
16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1644
by Steve Mueller <SD.MUELLER@HOSP.WISC.EDU>
17) Beavis & Butthead
by CNG@tcco.com
18) re: the B&B post (huh huh)
by HowWee@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 21:49:31 -0400
From: Warren Armstrong <warren.armstrong@iig.com.au>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: asdf (WWW generated email)
Message-ID: <199606260149.VAA03505@nermal.catt.ncsu.edu>
5 Old Cassowary St.
Freshwater, Cairns, 4870
Queensland, Australia.
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Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 23:29:00 -0400
From: WarrenDW@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: now THIS is DT content!!! More please??
Message-ID: <960625232859_421848655@emout13.mail.aol.com>
In a message dated 96-06-19 15:55:07 EDT, you write:
<< All in all, it was lots of fun and great to see all the jammers.
We asked John about the Con and he definately knew about it
and said that they should be there. He said they were still
searching for a producer. He said they basically missed the
October window to get an album out and they wanted to skip
Christmas, and that the end of January or February will probably
be when the album comes out. He didn't play any of the new music
at the clinic, but mentioned Metropolis Pt ][.
That's about all I can type now, considering I was up til 4AM, but
if I think of anything else that was sorta interesting, I will
post :)
Skadz
>>
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Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 22:36:48 -0500
From: market@clubmet.metrobbs.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: ****YOU CAN WIN A (boot) CD by Dream Theater****
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.6.25.-10.36.48.17545.5015@clubmet.metrobbs.com>
Hey all you Ytsejamers-
The (new) limited Dream Theater stickers are here...and ready for
ship-out!
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Would you like a chance to win a limited edition CD by Dream Theater?
The CD is "When Dream And Today Unite". (by mike b/Prism Records).
I believe there is only 1000 in print. Some of the following live
songs are on this cd: A Fortune In Lies, Get Funky, The Ytsejam,
Light Fuse and Get Away, Mission Impossible, To Live Forever,
Only A Matter Of Time, and several others! A must for any DT fan!
If you order (3) or more stickers by August 15th, 1996 your name
will be entered in a drawing to win "WHEN DREAM AND TODAY UNITE".
The drawing will be held August 16th, 1996 and will be announced
via E-MAIL & Ytsejam maillist that day. (don't forget to send
your email address with your order).
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
ABOUT THE STICKER:
The Dream Theater sticker is simple, yet captivating! It will
get attention. The sticker is 3 inches x 3 inches. It is made of
vinyl, so the quality is nice. It is a 3 color sticker.
At the top of the sticker says, "Dream Theater". In the middle
of the sticker is has the "Majesty symbol" (in a yellowish/white tint).
The majority of the middle background is a dark blue color. With black
fade in,on the top and bottom. On the bottom of the sticker says,
"-YTSEJAM-". I must take this moment to thank, "Thinker" from the
Ytsejam maillist, he did the artwork for the sticker. Thank you!
If you are not completely satisfied with the sticker(s)
I will refund your money for any unused stickers. 100 % guaranteed!
---(don't forget, if you order 3 or more, you will be entered in
the drawing for the boot DT CD)---
IF YOU would like your own sticker(s)...then you can write to the
address below. The Stickers are only $2.00 each. (includes shipping
and handling). (U.S. Currency/check/M.O. accepted). Orders
*Outside the U.S./add $1.00 for shipping/on any # ordered).
(((want to get even a better deal??? If you order 10 or more
stickers at any one time...your cost is $1.50 each)* (total $15.00).
ALSO if you order 10 or more, your name will be entered in the
DT CD drawing five (5) times, so your chances to win are greater!)))
FOR RUSH ORDER/write to:
TRS GROUP
11184 Antioch Road SUITE 701
Overland Park, Kansas 66210 USA
(checks and M.O. made out to: TRS GROUP).
(Don't forget your email address, and make sure you have the
above "suite" number on the outside of your envelope).
all orders are shipped out next business day.
If you have ANY questions, feel free to write me!
take care,
todd s
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Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 22:37:48 -0500
From: market@clubmet.metrobbs.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: ****YOU CAN WIN A (boot) CD by Dream Theater****
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.6.25.-10.37.48.14523.6137@clubmet.metrobbs.com>
Hey all you Ytsejamers-
The (new) limited Dream Theater stickers are here...and ready for
ship-out!
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Would you like a chance to win a limited edition CD by Dream Theater?
The CD is "When Dream And Today Unite". (by mike b/Prism Records).
I believe there is only 1000 in print. Some of the following live
songs are on this cd: A Fortune In Lies, Get Funky, The Ytsejam,
Light Fuse and Get Away, Mission Impossible, To Live Forever,
Only A Matter Of Time, and several others! A must for any DT fan!
If you order (3) or more stickers by August 15th, 1996 your name
will be entered in a drawing to win "WHEN DREAM AND TODAY UNITE".
The drawing will be held August 16th, 1996 and will be announced
via E-MAIL & Ytsejam maillist that day. (don't forget to send
your email address with your order).
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
ABOUT THE STICKER:
The Dream Theater sticker is simple, yet captivating! It will
get attention. The sticker is 3 inches x 3 inches. It is made of
vinyl, so the quality is nice. It is a 3 color sticker.
At the top of the sticker says, "Dream Theater". In the middle
of the sticker is has the "Majesty symbol" (in a yellowish/white tint).
The majority of the middle background is a dark blue color. With black
fade in,on the top and bottom. On the bottom of the sticker says,
"-YTSEJAM-". I must take this moment to thank, "Thinker" from the
Ytsejam maillist, he did the artwork for the sticker. Thank you!
If you are not completely satisfied with the sticker(s)
I will refund your money for any unused stickers. 100 % guaranteed!
---(don't forget, if you order 3 or more, you will be entered in
the drawing for the boot DT CD)---
IF YOU would like your own sticker(s)...then you can write to the
address below. The Stickers are only $2.00 each. (includes shipping
and handling). (U.S. Currency/check/M.O. accepted). Orders
*Outside the U.S./add $1.00 for shipping/on any # ordered).
(((want to get even a better deal??? If you order 10 or more
stickers at any one time...your cost is $1.50 each)* (total $15.00).
ALSO if you order 10 or more, your name will be entered in the
DT CD drawing five (5) times, so your chances to win are greater!)))
FOR RUSH ORDER/write to:
TRS GROUP
11184 Antioch Road SUITE 701
Overland Park, Kansas 66210 USA
(checks and M.O. made out to: TRS GROUP).
(Don't forget your email address, and make sure you have the
above "suite" number on the outside of your envelope).
all orders are shipped out next business day.
If you have ANY questions, feel free to write me!
take care,
todd s
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Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 22:46:52 -0500
From: market@clubmet.metrobbs.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: ALmost forgot...you can see the stickers
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.6.25.-10.46.52.4323.2511@clubmet.metrobbs.com>
If you would like to see the new DT sticker, then see:
H T T P : / / W W W . D R E A M T . O R G
(look in the merchandise section).
The picture will not be up for about 15 more days. Thanks!
___
see ya
todd s
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Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 23:57:58 -0400
From: Maraya007@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: in answer to a ?
Message-ID: <960625235757_143081419@emout15.mail.aol.com>
I forgot to mention the part about the Savatage date at Jaxx being postponed.
I knew that. I just forgot. ::slapping self on wrist:: <G>
Kevin Madden inquires:
<< Jamie, I wonder about your signature. It read "Jamie the exasperating
Dragon"
Is that what you meant to say? You are exasperating? Or are you exasperated
because Savatage isn't coming? Just curious. >>
The adjectives I use are generally inside jokes of a sort. I said
"exasperating" because I exasperate people. Certain folks will agree with
this wholeheartedly, if not in public. ;) Though I will admit that I *am*
a wee bit put out about the 'tage date being cancelled; every other time I've
had a chance to see them, all before Criss was killed, I was underage and
couldn't get into the clubs they were playing.
Jaime the snoopy Dragon <G>
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Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 00:38:06 +0000
From: "Robert Quezada" <rquezada@shell.monmouth.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: now THIS is DT content!!! More please??
Message-ID: <199606260434.AAA22995@shell.monmouth.com>
On 25 Jun 96 at 20:35, WarrenDW@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 96-06-19 15:55:07 EDT:
> All in all, it was lots of fun and great to see all the jammers.
> We asked John about the Con and he definately knew about it
> and said that they should be there. He said they were still
> searching for a producer. He said they basically missed the
Maybe I missed something over the past few jams. Does this mean that
David Prater isn't producing the new album? One could hope....
rq
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*Can download these lyric files from internet and use them
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*Divide songs into indices
*Example lyric files & instructions on how to make your own
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Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 00:48:37 -0400
From: Yutaka OTsuka <ootsuk3y@dj.kit.ac.jp>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: number-one(not-Riker) (WWW generated email)
Message-ID: <199606260448.AAA03761@nermal.catt.ncsu.edu>
Hello, jammers.
Dream Theater has no counterpart in the world.---Yutaka---
=============================================================
We are all DT-fans. There's no question about that.
In fact, if we are deprived of DT, we tend to grow psycotic.
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....We are such stuff
As dreams are made on.---W.Shakespeare(The Tempest)
=============================================================
Kyoto Institute of Technology Yutaka Otsuka
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Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 01:38:13 -0400
From: Imxtnit@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: My 1st post...
Message-ID: <960626013812_421930817@emout14.mail.aol.com>
Hey all,
This is my first post (after reading the last 100 or so Jams and suffering
through the whole *Load* thread). So i'd like to introduce myself to all the
other Jammers. My name's Tim Caudill, i'm a college student from Pittsburgh,
PA, my favorite bands are Dream Theater and Savatage, and i'm an amatuer
musician/singer/songwriter.
But enuff about me. I just wanted to respond to some themes which seem to be
recurring here on the Jam recently. First of all, i have to agree with
Grinder when he says:
DT and Rainbow on the same bill? I don't think it would work.
However, i agree for a different reason. I think it wouldn't work because DT
is an up-and-coming, progressive band who's best material is yet to come and
who's audience is increasing exponentially. Rainbow, on the other hand, is a
band who's best material is FAR behind them and are now reduced to touring
and rehashing the past, playing for aging audiences who are just reliving the
good ol' days.
As far as these two bands touring are concerned, i don't think it would work
for this reason: DT has two choices when it come to their next tour. Either
(1) tour as an opening act for an established band or (2) as a headliner with
another, lesser-known band opening for them. Which one they chose depends on
what it is they hope to gain from the tour. If they hope to please their
existing fans and play a longer set, then they'll do the latter.
However, if they chose the former, then chosing the band they'll open for is
of utmost importance. The only reason to choose this avenue is to expose a
wider audience to their music and hope to gain some converts. You must ask
yourself, then, what type of established and popular band would attract an
audience who would also enjoy DT. I don't think this is Rainbow. The type
of fans they'd attract are not looking for new music to listen to, they're
too busy reliving the past (for the most part, remember, this IS a
generalization...if this doesn't apply to you, then nevermind).
The only band who would be able to give DT this audience is RUSH. And if DT
has to sacrifice some stage time to accomplish this (if this is, in fact,
their goal) then it'd be well worth it. They may lose a small few fans who
wish they'd been on stage longer, but the fans Rush would pull in would
appreciate DT (if they don't already). I think it would create a whole new
audience for the boys. They may lose the battle, but i think it'd go a long
way in helping them win the war.
My point is probably moot anyways, since it ain't gonna happen...
But anyways, my other point was that there seems to be a lot of bashing on
the Jam recently by those who don't like other's listening tastes. To that i
say: i like what i like, you like what you like, but since we both like DT,
let's talk about THEM and FUCK the rest.
All of this is purely just MHO.
Thanks for reading my words,
Tim
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/ "I am the way, I am the light, I am the
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/ dark inside the night. I hear your hopes,
I \
\ feel your dreams, and in the dark I hear
/
\ your screams." -- Savatage, "Believe"
/
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| IMXTNIT@AOL.COM |
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Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 10:50:18 -0700
From: "James P. Garrett" <james971@ix.netcom.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Green day/new to the list
Message-ID: <31D026DA.22E@ix.netcom.com>
Hey Jammers,
I've been lurking for a couple of weeks and am relieved to find that this is indeed the
Dream Theater list and not the Metallica bitch-box. I'm 29 years old and I finally got
my first job out of college; I was an English major in school, so it took me a while to
find something that wasn't being a teacher. Not that there is anything wrong with
teaching, but in LA the schools are pretty dangerous. So now I sit in front of a
computer and listen to DT, Rush, Metallica (even Load), Zappa, and whatever else I'm in
the mood for. Far too much about myself. . .
Does anybody notice when you listen to Dream Theater that it takes some work? Keeping up
with the time changes and the complexity of the music takes a careful ear and some
knowledge of music theory. I'm no music guru, but I can identify time signatures,
counterpoint, and profound lyrics. This is why DT is not "popular."
Green Day is "popular" simply because the vast majority of the public is LAZY! The have
been desensitized by TV and MTV to the point that their sub-literate minds cannot
comprehend anything more complex than a Green Day or Blind Melon. Sure its great music
to dance to ("it has a beat and I can dance to it Dick. I'll give it a 92"), but if you
listen to too much of it, it numbs the brain. I could get into a bunch of conspiracy
theories about how the dominant class wants to keep the public a bunch of fucking sheep,
but now that I actually have a job, I don't feel so angry anymore and don't think that
those unethical, bloodsucking politicians who don't have our best interests at heart
aren't such bad people after all.
At least I can listen to Dream Theater and read the Jam.
Always IMO,
Moat Builder
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Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 01:06:39 -0600
From: Monty Newberry <mjnewb@mo.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: JM bass video
Message-ID: <31D0E17F.6422@mo.net>
Hey all. Somebody a few jams back mentioned a bass
instructional video done by our good frien John Myung. Well, how and
where could I get this? I am very interested in improving my playing,
and cannot really afford formal lessons at the moment, so a good
instructional vid I guess is the next best thing (I've got the time and
desire. I( just need some sort of direction). From the sound of this
vid, it kind of intrigues me. I am VERY interested. Please help.
Thanks, guys. You all rule.
Dale R. Newberry
P.S. I just saw a sort of new band (Fleming & John) the other night.
They did this really cool thing where they took the lyrics to "I Got
You, Babe," and put them to the tune of "Black Dog." They really pulled
it off well, too.
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Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 23:33:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: "C.S. Frankel" <96sp211@dvc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: An excuse to post - cool :)
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960625233037.13140A-100000@viking.dvc.edu>
Was it Dave who asked about the song "Don't Look Past Me"?
Well anyway, it's one of the old Majesty songs. I'm not sure exactly
when they wrote it, but I really like it. In fact, it's one of my
favorite DT songs.
There's a John Myung instructional video?
Wouldn't he have to...like...talk?
@ .. @ /\_/\
(----)^{Alllrrighty then!} ( o.o )
( >__< ) > - <
Charone Frankel
<96sp211@dvc.edu>
"Death is the first dancing turrtellle!!- James LaBrie
"Hey man, where's your sense of humor?" -Bart Simpson
"Viva El Salvador!"- Jim Carrey
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Date: Wed, 26 Jun 96 12:30:00 DFT
From: Wessel Marquering <Wessel.Marquering@econ.kuleuven.ac.be>
To: "ytsajam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Bospop Weert
Message-ID: <31D11179@econmsmail.kuleuven.ac.be>
Is anybody of the yammers going to Bospop (Weert, the Netherlands) this
year? The following bands will be playing: Maiden, Satriani, Tyketto,
Motorhead and Aura. The most interesting act (IMO) will be Aura. They'll be
releasing a CD on the Magna Carta label in september and they sound like
Dream Theater meets Rush & and Fates Warning. I've heard the advance tape
(thanks A.!!!) and it's really sensational stuff!!!
Aura will play at 12.00 on Saturday. See you there!!!
Does anyone know whether the bill on Friday is interesting?
Wessel
(Live at the) Marque(e) ring
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Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 13:06:56 +0200
From: akyuz@ltp.dmx.epfl.ch
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: being there
Message-ID: <v02130501adf6c9b78104@[128.178.99.94]>
>> I post plenty of positive things also, but those posts are almost
>> never quoted....sometimes it seems like it's only when you slip and
>> say something stupid around here that anyone bothers to acknowledge a
>> post.
Of that I've made my tactique. I only post stupid childish things that make
you people mad at me. In the process, I'm making an ass out of myself, but
at least I get noticed.
Ha ha!
........................................................................
D A V E K I N G
"If you see a problem where there is none, then the problem is YOU" (dk)
"holding on is easier than letting go" (fw)
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Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 07:25:11 -0400
From: Volker Scheunemann <VSCHEUN@T-ONLINE.DE>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: asdf (WWW generated email)
Message-ID: <199606261125.HAA04038@nermal.catt.ncsu.edu>
Hi there,
I'm one of the biggest Dream Theater fans in good old Germany and would like
to get in contact with some of you guys.
Subscribe ytsejam (Volker Scheunemann)
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Date: 26 Jun 1996 09:27:41 -0600
From: Steve Mueller <SD.MUELLER@HOSP.WISC.EDU>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1644
Message-ID: <21F3D003014@uhcucc.hosp.wisc.edu>
First of all, does anyone know how Jason Becker is doing?
Lastly, I am going to the KISS concert in Milwaukee on August 10.
Does anyone have any info on a set list? I'm going with three
friends of mine and I get to be Gene. Are there any other DT fans
out there who spent every Halloween back in the late 70's dressing up
like their favorite KISS member? Back in fourth grade we used to
have debates over whether Gene Simmons could take Darth Vader. In
my mind, there was never any question...
Steve (no matter how hard I try I can't play the solo in Lie) Mueller
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Date: Wed, 26 Jun 96 11:31:47 -24000
From: CNG@tcco.com
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Beavis & Butthead
Message-ID: <vines.3hH8+pWJolA@tcx.tcco.com>
Has Dream Theater ever been "reviewed" on Beavis and Butthead? If they got a
good review, it could send them into platinum status (a la White Zombie).
Although, if they get panned (a la Winger) it could be a disaster.
Also, has their music appeared anywhere? Either on Soundtrack or Television?
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Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 13:05:00 -0400
From: HowWee@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: re: the B&B post (huh huh)
Message-ID: <960626130459_143404830@emout07.mail.aol.com>
someone asked if DT music has ever made an appearance. I was watching some
sort of diving thing on a platform that is 150 feet up and the music they
were playing was the intro to all the song on I&W. It was about 3 years
ago.
-yitzik
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