YTSEJAM Digest 1310
Today's Topics:
1) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 03/01/96 - 15:50:42" <response@ibmmail.com>
2) IAW v Awake?
by rmwestbr@aec1.apgea.army.mil
3) Iron Maiden\Magna Carta
by "Ryan Eschauzier '97" <rdesc@conncoll.edu>
4) Orchestral instruments
by Sean T Gill <stg@csd.uwm.edu>
5) Pantera: Vulgar Video
by BERTAPELLE ADAM RAYE <bertapel@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
6) compilation album
by STEVE <STEVE@kandu.com>
7) Re: stuff
by CLIFF & PAM WHEATON <cwheaton@micron.net>
8) Extreme, Subconcious
by michael.bradley@mail.cc.trincoll.edu (Michael Bradley)
9) Re: Dtrib!!
by Jim Beavens <jbeavens@ichips.intel.com>
10) HI
by kurt@fgallery.com
11) YTSEJAM digest 1307
by keu@pointblank.com
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1308
by GADEM@why.net (GADEM)
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Date: Fri, 01 Mar 1996 11:31:01 EST
From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 03/01/96 - 15:50:42" <response@ibmmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
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Date: 1 Mar 96 11:36 EST
From: rmwestbr@aec1.apgea.army.mil
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: IAW v Awake?
Message-ID: <9603011137.aa14131@aec1.apgea.army.mil>
Hi everyone!
I'm coming out of lurk mode for my first post here, so bear with me.
Someone (forgive me, I don't remember whom) mentioned that they liked
IAW, and didn't like Awake as much, to which Ben "however you
pronounce it" replied, "I bet you wouldn't feel the same if you had
heard Awake before I&W. Nine times out of ten, people will like
better what the heard first. You kind of get used to it." In a way,
I agree. The first DT song I heard was PMU of course, and the rest of
IAW eventually grew on me. It took a few listens to really get into
Awake (although I loved CIaW from the first listen), but the more I
listened to it, the more I really got into it, and now it rarely
leaves my CD player. ACoS took a couple listens, and I'm sure the
next one will as well.
Oh, and about the tribute "thingie"... I suppose there are already
about a bazillion guitarists on the list? Make it a bazillion and
one...
Rob
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 11:50:55 -0500 (EST)
From: "Ryan Eschauzier '97" <rdesc@conncoll.edu>
To: RESPONSE at IBMAIL <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Iron Maiden\Magna Carta
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9603011145.B19194-0100000@dsys.cc.conncoll.edu>
I am still taking the final count for the ytsejam's favorite Maiden
album, so if you still want to vote, email me!
You have to think that Enchant may be the best Magna Carta band. I think
Magellan is the best for lyrics and Enchant is the best for music, what
do you think?
I try to post as much as possible, but damn, this thing comes out a lot!
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"A Bridge is not a high place "Stealthily Attacking
The fifty second floor By-Tor slays his foe
Icarus would know The men are free to run now
A mountain isn't far to fall In the labyrinth below"
When you've fallen from the moon."
-Steve Hogarth -Neil Peart
*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*>*>*>*>*>*>*>*>*>*>*>*>*>*>*>*>*>*>*>*>*
rdesc@conncoll.edu Ryan Eschauzier '97 (860) 439-4085
Connecticut College
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 11:07:44 -0600 (CST)
From: Sean T Gill <stg@csd.uwm.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Orchestral instruments
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.960301105610.22903B-100000@alpha2.csd.uwm.edu>
Since there seem to be a lot of orchestral instrumentalists on the
jam, I thought that I could try doing an arrangement of a DT song for wind
ensemble or something like that. I don't know how a recording would work
out though... But you would have something to read.
I know I have transcriptions for PMU, TTT, Lie, and CiaW. Any
other suggestions would be great. I have done some arranging before, so
I know what I'm doing (more or less). I have no guess as to a time frame
for this. It all depends on my school schedule.
This is a spur of the moment idea, so nothing's set in stone.
Anyone interested or anyone with ideas should email me directly.
TTFN- Sean
stg@alpha2.csd.uwm.edu
"And I though they smelled bad... on the outside"
Han Solo, The Empire Strikes Back
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 10:09:58 -0700 (MST)
From: BERTAPELLE ADAM RAYE <bertapel@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Pantera: Vulgar Video
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960301100811.2205B-100000@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
I love this video collection. Pantera really knows how to party...You
bringing up this video makes me want to go watch it...What do you think
of that fatty Sebastian Bach is smoking! WOW! See ya...I gotta watch
about 60 minutes of vulgarity!
->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->
Adam R. Bertapelle "If there's a pensive fear, a wasted year
bertapel@ucsu.colorado.edu a man must learn to cope
If his obsession's real, supression that he
Ask for my bootleg list! feels must turn to hope."
Dream Theater, "Take The Time"
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Date: Fri, 01 Mar 96 11:48:40
From: STEVE <STEVE@kandu.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: compilation album
Message-ID: <2E75C62F01810F00@kandu.com>
Dear jammers-
as i previously posted, my record label, DREG Records, is planning on releasing
a compilation CD of unsigned or local Prog HR/HM bands showcasing
their Original music.
i've gotten a few responses from interested bands already, so i will post this
additional information:
1. you can submit any number of songs you want, but if it's more than
3, be sure to note your 3 preferences in order. in all likelyhood, only one song per
band will be used.
2. for evaluation, you can send any format (except vinyl...). for the
final product, i will need (in order of preference) either CD-R, DAT
or VERY high quality tape. final submissions must be "releasable
quality" which can range from hi quality home recordings to studio masters.
3. there's no set limit on time lengths, but the idea is to get as
many bands involved in this as possible, so don't screw yourself by
only submitting a twenty minute song.
4. there will be a yet-to-be-determined royalty based on units sold
5. if you or your band would be interested, send me email to:
steve@kandu.com
i'll let you know where and when to send submissions.
this will be an excellent way for you to promote your band and
the Ytse Jam at the same time.
-steve
DREG Records
http://www.kandu.com/dreg
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 96 10:51 MST
From: CLIFF & PAM WHEATON <cwheaton@micron.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: stuff
Message-ID: <m0tsYyx-000QccC@mis01.micron.net>
Ok- I goofed. I ment Silent man when I was asking about the differences of
versions between eletric and acoustic. It's also another of the prettiest
songs I've heard in awhile. Well written,well sung. Have to say that about
LSOaD as well. Sorry about the goof-up-It was 2 am and I'd worked all night.
Thanks & Keep rockin'
Pam
___/----^--\____
< /__rockin' cabbie_\o
0 0
TAKING THE ROAD TO ADVENTURE
(Pam) cwheaton@micron.net
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 13:12:28 -0500
From: michael.bradley@mail.cc.trincoll.edu (Michael Bradley)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Extreme, Subconcious
Message-ID: <v01520d00ad5ced780747@[157.252.65.110]>
Hey Guys!
I'm listening to Extreme's 3 Sides to Every Story right now and I
must say, it's bringing back great memories...IMHO, this album is so much
more creative and diverse than a lot of what's out there today. In response
to the thread I saw a couple weeks back on the jam, I'd have to say that
Exteme IS progressive like DT, just more laid-back in their approach. They
write some really great melodies. I'd love to hear James sing some of these
songs. Just thought I'd share this with you all.
Also, once again, if anyone has a spare copy of the original
Subconcious, drop me a line personally, ok? Later guys!
-Mike Bradley
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Date: Fri, 01 Mar 1996 10:15:36 -0800
From: Jim Beavens <jbeavens@ichips.intel.com>
To: Michael Backof <mbacko1@gl.umbc.edu>
Cc: "The Great Wally Llama." <wdlehmku@hilltop.ic.edu>,
Subject: Re: Dtrib!!
Message-ID: <9603011815.AA47748@pdx108>
Sorry for the resend, I'm not sure this went through.
-- Ya know, although it would be cool to do a rendition of a DT song with a big band, jazz band, or pep band, I don't think it's possible with everyone living in different parts of the country. Although recording separate tracks for guitar, bass, drums, and keyboard would work just fine, I just can't see how a sax, a trumpet, a trombone, and my clarinet could all be recorded separately and sound like anything but crap. Instruments like that need to be recorded as a whole performance; I know I, for one, was always amazed at how much better I sounded when I was playing along with the rest of the symphonic band compared to when I was practicing alone.Of course, if people still want to try this, then I'll give it a shot. But in order for this to happen, I think the following needs to take place:
* Someone needs to arrange the parts. This is no small task, especially when you consider we don't have an original score to go from (other than a guitar tab, which I don't think counts). I know _I_ couldn't do it. * Someone needs to donate some recording equipment. I wouldn't be surprised if the other people that have instruments like trumpets and trombones were only half-jokingly mentioning their instruments like I was, and in fact have no way of doing decent recordings (again, like me). The only solution I could think of would be for someone to risk their DAT recorder or some other portable recording device of decent quality, and circulate it along with the tape(s). I'm confident we of the ytsejam would make sure it got circulated back to its owner, but you never know (of course if I'm alone in not having a means of recording, then just exclude me =).
Personally, the thought of doing a different kind of rendition like this of a DT song has made me excited about a different, and much more plausible possibility: writing a complete DT song in MIDI format, using different styles than DT. For example, I think Caught in a Web would sound really cool as an orchestral piece; imagine all of the low 7-string guitar parts played by basses, cellos, trombones, and other low-register instruments, all being played with a driving intensity. For the keyboard part that floats over the top during the beginning and subsequent sections, imagine the lead violins. And the solo where Petrucci goes scale-crazy would sound great as a combined woodwind section (damn, if I had a MIDI keyboard I'd leave work to go start working on this right now).
Anyway, I don't want to burst anyone's bubble, but we should think realistically about this stuff.
Jim
P.S. I've cc'd this to the ytsejam since there's stuff here that may be of interest to others. Oh, and for what it's worth, I'm in Portland, Oregon.
-- Jim Beavens <jbeavens@ichips.intel.com> | If I had a witty remark that MD6 Design Engineer, Intel Corp, Hillsboro OR | would better the lives of my ** I don't speak for Intel ** | fellow mankind, do you really (they're not that foolish) | think I would put it HERE?
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 14:09:34 -0400 From: kurt@fgallery.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: HI Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.3.1.14.9.34.2916992174.260771@bbs.fgallery.com>
Hey. i read some guy talking about using triggered drums.. can anyone explain to me what that is.. i do not know.. thanx ill apreciate it.. Seize The Day!
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 13:29:56 -0500 From: keu@pointblank.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: YTSEJAM digest 1307 Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.3.1.13.29.56.2377490627.1232443@pointblank.com>
From: KTYA28B@prodigy.com (MS DEBBIE M VESTAL)
> -------------------------------------- > | KEU@POINTBLANK.com > | http://www.pb.net/~pleasuredome > | QUOTE OF THE DAY!!!!!!!!!!! > | The more you Run over a Cat > | THE FLATTER IT GETS!!!!!!!! > --------------------------------------
>>Any thoughts on this, Debbie?
'm Sure the same could be said about Mr. or Ms. anonymous at KEU@POINTBLANK.COM................AND then again FLATTERy gets you everywhere (squish)........;)
Cat ---------------------------------------------------------- My name is Jon and I resent that! How could you say you would like me flat????
---------------- | KEU@POINTBLANK.com | http://www.pb.net/~pleasuredome | QUOTE OF THE DAY!!!!!!!!!!! | All things Being Equal | Fat people use more soap! -------
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 12:31:27 -0600 From: GADEM@why.net (GADEM) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1308 Message-ID: <19960301183125917.AAA248@dal45.why.net>
At 11:32 PM 2/29/96 -0800, you wrote:
>>What??? Yea right they could play them. Do you have any idea what it takes >>to play classical music? I play piano - and there is no way they could. >>The technical, let alone musical concepts are of a completely different >>nature than the stuff Dream Theater puts out. >> > >You ig'nant! Just because they DON'T play it doesn't mean they CAN'T play it.
Shut up. You obviously don't play classical music or you wouldn't make such completely uncalled for and idiotic remarks. Oh yea - I'm really ignorant. You act like playing classical music is so easy - well buddy, it ain't. They CAN'T PLAY IT!!! In order to play classical music you need special skills (technical and musical). These skills don't come overnight, but rather through daily practice. Different styles sometimes can be mixed in with one another - but not classical. It is completely different. So keep YOUR ignorant mouth shut ya freak.
Yea.
>>Debbie Seeger >seeged73@vaxa.cis.uwosh.edu >>University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh >>Music Major (Recording Technology emphasis) > >Dear Deb: >EEEK! >Please don't take this in any dirogatory way whatsoever, but what are you >smoking?:) I guess if awake doesn't move you, it just doesn't, but I have a >hard time believing that I&W blew you away and not Awake. To me, although >the Cd's are a bit different from each other (IW being as close to >mainstream as DT will ever get), the stuff on Awake is still Killer!! It's >just in a different frame of mind, and it takes some time to get "involved" >in some of the songs. For instance "Voices" can rock me just as "under a >Glass Moon" can, but in a different sort of way. To me it depepnds on where >you'll allow the music to take you when you listen. I think the music on >Awake takes a bit more "focus" to get off on in the same way as I&W's stuff >does. The Awake stuff takes a bit longer to get to the punch, therefore >requiring an undistracted listener to get the real vibe of it all. The >concepts put forth in the lyrics on Awake are intense...it deals a lot with >the subconcious self, and portrays a message much like a Dream would to >yourself. (in Dreams things hardly ever mean what they look lke they should >mean) I guess all I'm trying to say is that I LOVE both albums just the >same, and I'm having a hard time believing your dilemma:) Did you try >listening to Awake on a long drive with no one else in the car, and a really >good stereo system? heheheh > >Peace, >Dave >buster@ee.net > > >------------------------------ > >Date: 29 Feb 96 21:48:33 EST >From: Leandro Gularte <102131.3170@compuserve.com> >To: "'!ftQB6" <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> >Subject: Poster, Fan Club >Message-ID: <960301024832_102131.3170_EHS96-1@CompuServe.COM> > >Hi everybody! Well, i am writtig couse i want to know if exist any Dream Theater >Fan Club here in Brazil. And I want to know how to get a Dream Theater >POSTER???? >I will wate for reply. Thank you... > > Leandro Pinho Gularte, 102131,3170@compuserve.com > > > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 23:56:17 -0600 >From: rtgood@students.wisc.edu (ryan good) >To: ytsejam@ax.com >Subject: I doubt it >Message-ID: <199603010556.XAA123067@audumla.students.wisc.edu> > >Hey....I think there would be no way that Alex Skonlick would ever join >Dream Theater. I KNOW for a fact that he is a talented guitarist, but >unless Dream Theater NEEDS another guitarist for touring and the like, >there's no way they'd hire another guitarist. Alex is good, without a doubt. > Oh, yea, by the way. The white streak in his hair is a birthmark, >not a dye job. > Adios. > > By the way....drink one for me!!! >____________________________________ > >"I hate commercial radio, and I want to be a DJ?" >"I'm being persecuted because I'm not an athlete" >"Cheaters never get in trouble" > >name - Ryan T. Good >e-mail - rtgood@students.wisc.edu >phone - 1-(608)-264-2268 >what - Madison Student Radio >who - Music Staff (Music Stapher) >which kind - Progressive Rock/Heavy Metal >why - why not? > > >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 01:12:10 -0500 >From: WildKoba@aol.com >To: ytsejam@ax.com >Subject: plenty o things to say >Message-ID: <960301011209_234909644@emout06.mail.aol.com> > >yo! still basking in the chick corea glory. > >and i got 4658347 jams waiting, so i wanted to respond to some issues that >have been thrown around. > >on top of keyboards, 7 string, clarinet (which i also play, sort of), i'd be >more than glad to throw in a bamboo sax or a bandola. i can hear wfs on the >bandola pretty nicely. now i have to get the other 16 strings for it. > >speaking of keyboards, the issue of whether or not km and ds can handle the >bigboy's shit like liszt or the crackeheaded chopin. > >although i think that they are both amazing (particularly km), i don't think >i can see them hitting the chopin bong. of course, i can be all wrong, but >with km, i think the keyboards are more a channel for his songwriting, and >what he plays is what you get from him. now whether kev's stuff is virtuosic >is another debate, and i think for what he does, there ain't a lot of guys >better nowadays. > >derek is a tough nut to crack. i gather that he may have not had an extensive >classical training. i think he's very much into the jazz and blues end of the >piano, and frankly i'd be scared to see him smokin the liszt bong. kinda like >neil peart trying to play buddy rich stuff. of course, peart is amazing (a >virtuoso at what he does), but he can't really jazz that well. > >jp a virtuoso? he's up there. i hope he really does something funky on the 7 >string, because that's an open field, and anyone can do something to make a >difference. i hope he does it. > >man, derek had a rough ass week on the jam- 1st, people are debating his >sexual orientation (?!?!) and now we're debating his musical ability. >give the boy a break. > >scott daugherty: >wow.... (c. david kobayashi productions)??? jeez! that's insane in the brain. >check this out, g. i did a listening analysis of barber's hermitage songs. >what great shit. > >re: dt in 10 years >well, i'm glad that SOMEONE agrees with me that they won't be around by then. >personally, it might happen even sooner. > >new fw cd, one long tune >ughhh!!! the only other cd i have that does that is "lovesexy" by prince, and >god that is so freakin annoying. > >prog and the big cash payoff >yo andrew, wassup? long time, no speak. umm...my thoughts about prog going >platinum, so to speak... > >ummm...............uh-huh, uh-huh.......ummmmmm.................. > >if it happens, it does. if not, maybe for the better, maybe for the worst. i >don't think it'll affect me personally as a listener. prog is too much in my >blood now, so it won't be like polyester in the 70s or the iron shiek in the >80s. > >i love that little "prague" story. someone once thought i said "frog rock," >but i won't get into that. > >ben lsd???!?!?!?! > >mike portnoy gay? >that was hilarious with the "ripe monk toy." i just always thought of him as >"porntoy." > >so there, done. peace out, and don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk. > >david the funky koba > >speaking of funk- np- parliament- "mothership connection" > >ps- i just saw what i submitted to the web pages (kev's keyboard interview). >thanks for the crediting. that's way cool. > >anyone interested in getting a kevin moore reviewed copy of wfs? email me >personally. and to the ones that have it already, how is it???? > >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 01:47:06 -0500 (EST) >From: Brian Wherry <bwherry@acs.bu.edu> >To: DT List <ytsejam@ax.com> >Subject: Ivanhoe, IRC >Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9603010119.B48041-0100000@acs4.bu.edu> > > Hey, guys (and gals)! I was at Tower earlier and I saw the >Ivanhoe "Symbols of Time" CD there, but in the underground section. So, >if you've been looking for this CD and you have a Tower nearby, check the >underground section -- you may be pleasantly surprised!! > IRC is really cool! I was on the other night and really enjoyed >it. I was laughing out loud half the time!! That Bafu Vai..... :) Too >bad my roommate picked up the phone and prematurely ended my session.... >oh well! But if you haven't gotten on the #ytsejam channel thingy, >definitely do!! And if you don't know how to (like I didn't), just email >Skadz or Digital Man and I'm sure they'd be happy to sort you out. Later! > > Spring Break, here I come! (after the DiffEQ exam, that is -- yikes!) > > >Brian > > --==Brian Wherry==-- > --==bwherry@acs.bu.edu==-- > "Do. Or do not. There is no try." -Yoda > > > >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 01:57:00 -0500 (EST) >From: John Jens <jjens@portal.gmu.edu> >To: ytsejam@ax.com >Subject: Subcon & Acoustic Dreams; Tori Amos >Message-ID: <199603010657.BAA29054@reactor.site.gmu.edu> > >howdy folx, >i noticed something a couple hours ago while writing my research paper >proposal: i skip through most of Subcon, only listening to a few songs but >when AD spins into place, i listen to the entire disc. i think AD was better >put together; not to knock Subcon, it roolz. i'll let you all know if the >pattern of quality continues when i get my WDATU (i'm sure it will ) :] > >to the person who said *after one listen* that Tori Amos was "pathetic": if >i judged everything on a single listen, i wouldn't be into *any* prog bands. >to judge on a single listen screams ignorance. and w/ Tori in particular, >i've found that males often "just don't get it" and pass her off as "another >female singer". the 'Jam is the largest collection of males that i know who >like her (besides Really Deep Thoughts, of which i'm not subscribed). > >Tori is someone very special. i think a former member of DT and several >'Jammers would agree with me. > >-john > >j o h n j j e n s @ g m u . e d u >e >n >s h t t p : / / w w w . s i t e . g m u . e d u / ~ j j e n s / > > >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 01:07:03 -0600 (CST) >From: Matt Rosin <msr7146@tam2000.tamu.edu> >To: ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com> >Subject: unsigned bands tape >Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960301010436.19644B-100000@tam2000.tamu.edu> > >i was wondering about this unsigned bands tape idea that's been >circulating. would this just be unsigned prog bands we know of or music >from unsigned musicians on the list. i think it would be cool to hear >what all the other serious musicians on the list write ands perform. we >could all help each other get exposure. i know i can speak for all of us >when i say that we can use the exposure. what do you think? > ><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> >Matt Rosin * SURREALITY: ambient-experimental >PO Box 15315 * IMAGESCAPE: ambient-progressive metal >College Station, TX * Matt Rosin: vocals/synths/programming > 77841-7315 * http://http.tamu.edu:8000/~msr7146/imagescape >msr7146@tam2000.tamu.edu * email: imagescape@tamu.edu ><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 01 Mar 1996 02:23:44 EST >From: fitipmol@ibmmail.com >To: ytsejam@ax.com >Subject: Skolnick
>Message-ID: <199603010724.XAA12480@mindcrime.ax.com> > > > > > > > >--- Saapunut 03.MAPE 90-4694432 01-03-96 09.21 > -> IBMMAIL.INTERNET IBM IMX > >Hi. > >Alex Skolnick joining DT....no good. I've never liked Testament >but he did a good job replacing Criss Oliva (RIP) in Savatage. >He is a very good axeman, really, but very good isn't enough for >DT. I think we all can agree on that. > >Some of the jokes about RESPONSE (ouch!) at you-know-what are >quite funny, but let's give it a rest. AFAIK Skadz is doing >everything he can to get rid of the MIFW:s. > >Mape > >*************************************************************** >* A bus stops at the bus station, * >* A train stops at the train station, * >* There's a workstation on my desk... * >*************************************************************** > >------------------------------ > >End of YTSEJAM Digest 1308 >************************** >
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