YTSEJAM Digest 1324
Today's Topics:
1) IRC
by DreamNDay@aol.com
2) Primus
by btomko@home.glasscity.net
3) Re: Well, whaddaya know...
by borlangw <borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk>
4)
by Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu>
5) WDATU
by Dave Fernquist <103362.445@compuserve.com>
6) Re: Place for the YtseCon III
by Jeff Chew <jc309@columbia.edu>
7) YTSEJAM digest 1322
by keu@pointblank.com
8) YTSEJAM digest 1322
by keu@pointblank.com
9) The year of the ugly...
by mojoman@pointblank.com
10) YTSEJAM digest 1321
by "Steven Johnson" <svjohnson@amoco.com>
11) I had a good radio show today...
by ytsejammer <belhai@drew.edu>
12) Denver and environs...
by KTYA28B@prodigy.com (MS DEBBIE M VESTAL)
13) doh!
by Baldy <laussade@enet.net>
14) Shrapnel Records/Progressive
by Sean T Gill <stg@csd.uwm.edu>
15) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 03/05/96 - 21:21:17" <response@ibmmail.com>
16) some things that i've read here lately:
by WildKoba@aol.com
17) 2 quick things ....
by "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 15:13:16 -0500
From: DreamNDay@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: IRC
Message-ID: <960305151307_160874476@mail06.mail.aol.com>
OK, everyone, to those of you who still have feelings of resentment against
me and want to get out your anger, or you just want to BS with me, I will be
on IRC either Friday night at 8:00 or Saturday at12 noon (Eastern standard
time that is, If you're not on the east coast, you do the math.)
later--------------Brian
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 15:19:10 -0500
From: btomko@home.glasscity.net
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Primus
Message-ID: <199603052019.PAA05317@home.glasscity.net>
In regards to digest 1318, Geddy Lee, Rush bass legend, describes
Les Claypool as one of his favorite players in an interview with Bass Player
magazine. The two gurus hang around when they get the chance.
Do we have any Toledo area Ytsejammrs? I have a friend whose local
band put out an album, and it's pretty cool. Email me and I'll tell you
where you can see them or buy their CD.
Feyd
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 20:28:49 GMT
From: borlangw <borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Well, whaddaya know...
Message-ID: <9603052028.AA16549@lively.dcs.gla.ac.uk>
Chris wrote:
> And to those who think that "screwed over by a woman" songs have no depth:
I'd really like to get "screwed over by a woman", just so I could write
a cool song about it.
Any volunteers? :-)
Graham B.
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 14:58:42 -0600 (CST)
From: Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu>
To: The Ytse-Skadz <ytsejam@ax.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.960305145221.3942A@indy27.gclab.missouri.edu>
>Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 07:18:52 -0700 (MST)
>From: brax@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Bracken MacLeod)
>To: ytsejam@ax.com
>Subject: Vai (NOT Bafu, Dammit!)(NDTC)
>Message-ID: <9603051418.AA40264@lamar.ColoState.EDU>
>
>Hey all,
> My very fist post on the new unmoderated 'jam (due to the fact
>that I have no opinion about the sexiness of various members of DT, or
>about a new Ytsecon since it will surely be too far for me to travel
>to)(that means I second the vote for Denver). Nothing personal, I'm just
>not interested. That said, I'll move on to what does interest me.
"I am Bracken MacLeod, of the clan MacLeod. I was born 400 years ago, in
the highlands of Denver, and I am not alone. I await the time of the
YtseCon, when the sound of an axe and the beat of a drum will release the
power of The Killing Hand. In the end, there can be only one!"
Don't let your mind wander - it's too little to be let out alone.
h t t p : / / w w w . m i s s o u r i . e d u / ~ c 6 7 5 3 1 1 /
| Pat Griffin Reality2 Design |
| c675311@showme.missouri.edu c675311@cclabs.missouri.edu |
h t t p : / / w w w . m i s s o u r i . e d u / ~ c 6 7 5 3 1 1 /
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Date: 05 Mar 96 15:59:40 EST
From: Dave Fernquist <103362.445@compuserve.com>
To: ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: WDATU
Message-ID: <960305205939_103362.445_JHL109-1@CompuServe.COM>
Hello Jammers!
New subscriber here, and I'd like info on obtaining the WDATU disc, as well as
any other "rare" recordings (please email me at 103362.445@compuserve.com).
Any Jammers going to the Galactic Cowboys show at the Troubador in Hollywood on
April 5? Look for me wearing the "Awake" tour tshirt. Should be a real hot
show. "Machine Fish" is a really good disc; however, I think that "Space in
Your Face" is their best. Even the first disc has some killer tunes.
Regarding Judas Priest, I saw in their web page that Scott Travis will be
playing drums on the upcoming '96 release; they haven't decided on a singer yet.
As far as the west coast Ytsecon goes, either San Francisco or Vegas would be
fine; Vegas is more decadent so I leans towards that city (how about at the Hard
Rock Hotel?)
Jam on!
Dave Fernquist
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 16:00:18 -0500 (EST)
From: Jeff Chew <jc309@columbia.edu>
To: YtseCon III Staff <ACoSDT@gnn.com>, anthem@virginia.edu,
Subject: Re: Place for the YtseCon III
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960305155602.1173G-100000@inibara.cc.columbia.edu>
Dear guys,
I gave it a lot of thought, and I think that New Jersey is the best place
to have it. Now, all I need is to start calling different hotels and
convention centers in, say, Old Bridge or Woodbridge. But, do you think
there could be any package deals, like a plane ticket/ticket to
YtseCon/hotel room for a certain amount of money for the out-of-staters?
That would be great and I think it would promote more people to come (if
there can be discounts). Also, I pondered the idea of sponsers for
awhile, but that would make this convention too commercialized (and it
wouldn't be an Internet event anymore). But, let me know what you guys
think, okay? TTYL!
Yours,
Jeff =)
P.S. I still need someone to take care of shirts.
> If you can keep the con at all local, then go for it. Old Bridge isn't too
> far and I think it would be convenient for us Long Island jammers as well
> as out of state jammers. It's a good idea.
>
> Heath Augustover
<*> Jeff Chew <*> jc309@columbia.edu <*> (212) 853-6952 <*>
<*> http://www.columbia.edu/~jc309 <*>
<*> Lifting Shadows : http://www.columbia.edu/~jc309/dreamt.html <*>
"Lifting Shadows Off a Dream once broken, she can turn a drop of
water into an ocean" -- John Myung, Dream Theater
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 16:24:36 -0500
From: keu@pointblank.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: YTSEJAM digest 1322
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.3.5.-16.24.36.2377490627.1237399@pointblank.com>
YT>From: FNGX01A@prodigy.com (MR JOHN CAHILLJR)
YT> Hey kids do you like that Rock an roll? Recently there has been
YT>some speculation as to what DT can or cannot play. I say drop it, who
YT>really cares? You are all on this list because of the music that they
YT>have played.
Um WHY Should People on the JAM have to talk about the
PAST.. As far as i know DT isnt a Defunked band. SO Who the hell knows
what they might play next.. WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF THEY CAME OUT WITH A
DISCO CD??? you would still talk about them. So I actully like to read
what people speculate DT is going to bang out next!
BTW, John
YT>Myung played the Violin as a kid growing up around the block. I know
YT>because I used to watch him play it when I was over his house with
YT>Kenny. As far as I know most stuff written for the violin that he was
YT>playing was classical.
MY *** you watched him played.... I am sure you had
something a whole lot better then watching some punk *** kid play the
voilion.
YT>From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
YT>I'd just like to start by saying that this isn't my first post to the
YT>Ytse Jam.
YEAH OK!!!!
YT> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
YT> \|/ ____ \|/ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/
YT> "@'/ ,. \`@" cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu "@'/ ,. \`@"
YT> /_| \__/ |_\ d-man@dreamt.org /_| \__/ |_\
YT> \__U_/ http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/
WHAT THE HELL IS THIS CHRIS???
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 16:24:36 -0500
From: keu@pointblank.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: YTSEJAM digest 1322
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.3.5.-16.24.36.2377490627.1237400@pointblank.com>
Heres a Question:
What is the infauation with DT???? Its not
like they are the BEST PROG. Band out there... There are a hell of alot
of bands out there that are STILL better then DT!!!
For instance Look at Slaughter... MILLIONS OF
CD'S SOLD!
POISON....1
word CHEESE
Extreme... HEH
no comment..
SO why are you guys limiting this place to
only DT.. I MEAN how much DT can you talk about before it gets old and
repeated?!?!?!?
THATS MY OPINION AND SO BE
IT!
KEU
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 16:49:40 -0500
From: mojoman@pointblank.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: The year of the ugly...
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.3.5.-16.49.40.2377490627.1237417@pointblank.com>
OK....A lengthy post from MojoMan...
Poison, Warant or Whatever:
*********************************
This disgusts me...it really does...the trends in music change.
period!!!!!!!! Bands like Poison, or Warant were on top of the world 8
years ago. They dictated what the MTV, Radio, and concert world did.
Obviously, no one can stay on top of the world forever...It's the king
of the mountain story...in music. What I have to say is this, I have
grown disgusted because of the music we hear nowadays. Music has
become raw, which I dont mind...but it has pushed away groups with
talent...and forced them into the categories of 'washed up!' This has
never happened in the history of music...all music has had an equal
representation. (maybe sometimes 'trends' were weighed more than
'non-trends') For the first time, a whole genre of rock was washed out
of memory to give birth to a more raw, angry, and painful genre of
rock. I hate to say it folks, but although Nirvana, Bush, Soundgarden,
Oasis and all these new rock groups sell records nowaday...it's a
disgrace that these forms of music(If you dare call some of that rat
excrement, music) can't co-exist with more in-depth rock...(poison is
not in-depth...but compare any poison song to the **** you will see on
MTV nowadays...and its like night and day....) Becareful when you
scoff at people who listened to, or still listen to Poison or Warant...
Some day your beloved Nirvana will be dead not only physically, but
stylistically and economically. Music with a more uplifting, in-depth,
self-conscious message will eat alternative music and they will be
washed up....I can't wait for the day when I see this...for I will
treat every doochebag that reacted to my listing to White Lion or
whatever, the same and worse....
Gandalf
*********
when did you work with Prater?? Should I get out the shovel????
Digital Man
*************
Bite Me!!! (why?? why not!!)
YtseCon
**********
Hey....DT is from New York....why not another YtseCon in LI....
Sounds good to me....
Jeff Chew...If I could help out in any way, let me know....
M O J O M A N
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Date: 05 Mar 1996 15:13:15 GMT
From: "Steven Johnson" <svjohnson@amoco.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: YTSEJAM digest 1321
Message-ID: <199603052147.AA27174@interlock.amoco.com>
*** Reply to note of 03/05/96 03:23
GO RICHIE GO!!! I am a huge fan of Warrant. Have ALL their discs. Funny, I
feel the same about DT! No need to totally flame someone because they mention
Poison or Warrant in the same sentence as DT. People constantly talk about
Thought Industry (drift into hypocrisy...NOW!) and I think these guys blow!!
Though many a post is dedicated to 'em, nobody's heard a neg. response til
now. Even so, the correct response wouldn't be so "off the cuff."
Warrant's "Cherry Pie" is sophmoric and crude, but a fun assed song! If you'd
bother to listen to their last 2 discs before ranting, you'd find a much more
mature band that incorporates various complexities in chord structure, solo
performance, time sigs., vocal arrangements and lyrics. They haven't been
running in place like Winger (another of my favorite bands!!). I've seen TI in
concert and can't grasp why people dig 'em. But they do.
C'mon, people. Let's not be progressively narrow.
Steve
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"I'll be defending you on the charge of......MURDER ONE!?! Wow!
Even if I lose, I'll be famous!!" - Lionel Hutz, attorney
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Date: Tue, 05 Mar 1996 17:09:33 -0500 (EST)
From: ytsejammer <belhai@drew.edu>
To: ytse Jim <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: I had a good radio show today...
Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.91.960305170244.579098416A-100000@drew.edu>
Yes I did, and for various reasons:
Well, I finally decided to browse through the CDs that the station had.
They had ACOS, Damn the Machine, Magellan's "impending ascension" and
Illuvatar.
Also, nobody ever calls me for requests, but today some guy called in and
said "hey, I like your show and I was wondering if you could play some
Fates Warning." I was shocked when he asked for this. Fortunately, the
station had the single of "pale fire." So I played that. Then, another
guy called and asked me to play some DT. He asked for "PMU." I was really
shocked. I hope people call my show in the future like they did today.
If you're ever in the Madison area of New Jersey, my show is on Tuesday's
from 2-4 p.m. on 88.9 FM.
...Brandon
"Come on Drew, let me hear you out there"
- (what I said today during the keyboard solo of PMU)
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Date: Mon, 04 Mar 1996 17:18:28 EST
From: KTYA28B@prodigy.com (MS DEBBIE M VESTAL)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Denver and environs...
Message-ID: <096.02815234.KTYA28B@prodigy.com>
I live in Colorado as well. I can tell that the idea of a YtseDenverCon
just ain't a gonna go anywhere.:( But, the next time DT passes through our
neck of the woods...maybe we could get together for the show and whoop it
up abit. I can't afford Jersey or Chicago, and I know better than to go
ANYWHERE NEAR LAS VEGAS...sorry Baldy. I just know I would end up
mindlessly plunking away my meager money's into the coffers of some mega
rich casino. Oh well.................maybe next year.:)
Cat
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~IN GODS WE TRUST.........................................
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ALL OTHERS PAY CASH......................
-STEVEN BRUST
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 15:34:01 -0700
From: Baldy <laussade@enet.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: doh!
Message-ID: <199603052234.PAA10824@maple.enet.net>
>First of all, this is my mom's account, so I will show up as Sheila, but
>I'm not. I am Cory Swanson from Denver Colorado.
>
> I am in a band called Orpheus that has only been in motion since November,
>so we haven't made it out of the basement. But, hey, I'm only 15. DT is
>the only band that everyone in the band likes, so I have come to worship them.
Whoops...sorry Cory. Um...no offense, but I am aware of male and female
Cory's...which are you? That asked to prevent further mix ups. :-)
>Another anagram for Mr. Laussaude. " Be sundae saul "
>
Maybe...if you SPELLED IT RIGHT! Sheesh. L A U S S A D E
:-)
>Currently playing: Die Krupps - A Tribute To Metallica
I saw that once...is it any good?
>To those who don't like that I post this to the jam every once in awhile,
>I DONT CARE.
Well _I_ don't care that YOU don't care!
>What first occurs to my mind when I think Ytsecon is the Participation of
>the Band. It seems to me that we unfortunately have to tend to the
>convienience of Management and Dream Theater's schedule. This is beyond our
>control. If Ytsecon III were held in Long Island or New Jersey, there is a
>greater chance (not guaranteed, but indeed greater) that the members of
>Dream Theater would show up.
The band is a plus...but I just want to meet Jammers and people who have
appreciation for good music.
>Please have the next Ytse-Con in my bathroom. It's terribly convenient and
>I won't have to leave to go to the bathroom because ... well, you get it.
>Oh wait, didn't I already do one of these? Nevermind.
Sheesh. :-)
>Hey,
>
> WE NEED A YTSECON IN SAN FRANCISCO!!!!! Dream Theater has a good
>following out here (they've played the Warfield the last two times) and
>we deserve to have it. IMO
_IMO_ I deserve 20 million dollars in small, unmarked bills. What's your
point? :-)
>After all, Ben recieved almost no votes for prez, (sorry, Ben!) but
>an overwhelming number of people thought Ben should be vice. How about an
>acceptance speech from you? Only runner up was Mike Bahr, so maybe we should
>find him a position. Any suggestions?
Hmm...that depends on what priveleges the Ytse-Politicians get.
Ben Laussade
We don't need no stinkin' DTC!
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 16:42:45 -0600 (CST)
From: Sean T Gill <stg@csd.uwm.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Shrapnel Records/Progressive
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.960305163826.19678B-100000@alpha2.csd.uwm.edu>
All you unsignied bands- Check This Out!
Its from the neoclassical network run by Igor Sinyak
TTFN- Sean
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 05 Mar 96 12:04:53 PST
From: Igor_Sinyak@ccm11.sc.intel.com
Subject: Rising Force Update - Shrapnel
Mike Varney is interested in bringing back neoclassical metal, and
Sharpnel will also move towards the progressive side. He played me some
cool stuff from bands he wants to sign. He also wanted me to ask you if
there are bands he should know about - so here's your chance. If you
know of anyone doing neoclassical/progressive metal who would belong on
Sharpnel please get in touch with me.
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Date: Tue, 05 Mar 1996 18:01:43 EST
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 18:09:50 -0500
From: WildKoba@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: some things that i've read here lately:
Message-ID: <960305180950_342045392@emout08.mail.aol.com>
well, thanks for the anagrams, folks.
the best one so far is...
does b. vai yak? ah....
anyways.....some things i wanted to reflect upon.
doug wimbish v. muzzy
to the guy who blasted doug's bass playing in living colour. i mean, i like
muzzy as much as the next guy, and although doug does use a lot more fx,
that's not all he's about! he can play for real. listen to some of the stuff
he did on satriani's "time machine" or the first seal album. the guy is funky
fresh in the house. and seeing him up close live is a trip (i saw muzzy too,
and while i thought muzzy was/is awesome, doug wins.........fatality!). he
fit the living colour gig perfectly. it don't matter now, cause they're
broken up and i am sad. alas.
dt watches- jeez!! how about dt edible underwear for the ladies? or dt
speedos? i thought some of you were pushing it with the tanktops....
chris oates, the japan-bound man
to places for you to go- kyoto and osaka. nuff said.
cesare, the ngsw person.
hey i was there too, visiting a friend. great jam. i was the fool next to the
guy who told jp he was out of tune (and right!). i wonder if he'll be back at
ngsw this summer. we'll see.
ummm....albums to check out.
how about this? there's this band called the beatles, and they have this
little album called "revolver." i just heard it for the 1st time a couple of
nights ago..............................ow! (brain hurting). thought maybe
someone might dig it.
that's all.
waiting for my birch hill shows, my gracie moon cd, and for my upset to go
away.
david the magical kobayashi
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 18:17:00 -0500 (EST)
From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: 2 quick things ....
Message-ID: <199603052317.SAA02040@wicked.stigmata.org>
Hey all ...
Gabbo wrote:
To: The Ytse-Skadz <ytsejam@ax.com>
Ummm just cuz I am the moderator, doesn't mean I am the list :)
Second ...
Musical Tastes. This seems to come up every couple of months
here. I bet if you got a list together of every band that every jammer
listened to, you would have such a huge list with so much variety, it
would cover almost ever band out there. I know I listen to lots of
different kinds of music, as do alot of jammers. So, since you listen
to different music from DT/progrock doesn't make you less of a fan,
it just makes you someone with a variety of tastes. Just from talking
to some people from the jam at the Christmas shows and on IRC, I know
that alot of people listen to some of the bands I listen to and some
hate them, but it's just an opinion. Most people would be scared
when they saw my CD/tape collection. I mean, I have so many different
groups from so many different genres it isn't funny. So, people
have different tastes. The common bond we have here is that we
are all in to DT and at the same time, most of us like a variety of other
progressive bands, but at the same time, alot of us don't JUST listen
to progrock, but that doesn't make us any less of a DT fan.
Just my input. :)
Skadz
-- +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+ | Ryan P Skadberg skadz@bluesky.net | | System Administrator / Web Developer Blue Sky, Inc. | | http://www.bluesky.net/skadz/ http://www.dreamt.org/ | +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+ | "'Seize the Day', I heard him say, Life will not always be this way" | +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+------------------------------
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