YTSEJAM Digest 1325
Today's Topics:
1) Blatant self promotion
by Brandon Holst <bholst@holly.ColoState.EDU>
2) beware the michelangelo virus- very important!
by WildKoba@aol.com
3) Andrew Miller the resurrection (Ytsejam post) (fwd)
by The Great John Nguyen <nuprin@wichita.fn.net>
4) Pointblank guy.
by Baldy <laussade@enet.net>
5) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 03/05/96 - 23:45:07" <response@ibmmail.com>
6) An Open Letter to Mr. Varney
by rtgood@students.wisc.edu (Sir Ryan of Good)
7) bass
by Mark Smeets <msmeets@ibm.net>
8) YTSEJAM digest 1315
by "Steven Johnson" <svjohnson@amoco.com>
9) YTSEJAM digest 1317
by "Steven Johnson" <svjohnson@amoco.com>
10) Real YtseLosers (sorry, Bigman)
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
11) Itchy is gay???
by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@freenet.tlh.fl.us>
12) Trolling for flames...
by Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu>
13) Skadz...
by Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu>
14) I am Man
by swanson@henge.com (Sheila Swanson)
15) Braindance
by Charles D Harrison <cdh191@casbah.acns.nwu.edu>
16) Erotomania riffs
by Daniel McCormack <emc@caribe.net>
17) Vegas Ytsecon
by GHSRocker@aol.com
18) Feeling warm all over
by "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@moose.uvm.edu>
19) First-Lady O' Da 'Jam?
by "John R. Kotzian" <koggie@cyberspace.org>
20) Sorry Ben
by FNGX01A@prodigy.com (MR JOHN CAHILLJR)
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 16:26:09 -0700 (MST)
From: Brandon Holst <bholst@holly.ColoState.EDU>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Blatant self promotion
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.960305162302.282242A-100000@holly.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Hi all...
My name's Brandon, and I'm the drummer for Colorado's hottest new
progressive rock band - Anthem. (Can you guess who are influences are?)
We'll be playing this Thursday night at the Paradise Club in Glendale
(used to be Bangles) - so if you live in the Denver area, come check us
out! Other than the obvious Rush and DT influences, we're really into
Fourth Estate for those of you who have heard of them. Even got to open
up for them last week - cool!
Hope to see 'ya there -
Brandon
bholst@holly.colostate.edu
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 18:27:59 -0500
From: WildKoba@aol.com
To: bd91014@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu
Subject: beware the michelangelo virus- very important!
Message-ID: <960305182756_161051421@mail02.mail.aol.com>
just wanted to remind that tomorrow is michelangelo's birthday (march 6), and
that means the michelangelo virus may be around to fuck someone's day up. so
it may perhaps be a good idea to avoid usage of the computer (especially to
log onto the net or web). the odds of actually getting it may be rare, but
there is no way to be for sure, and i wouldn't want to hear that something
bad happened to your computer, so be careful.
see ya.
dk
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 17:37:01 -0600 (CST)
From: The Great John Nguyen <nuprin@wichita.fn.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Andrew Miller the resurrection (Ytsejam post) (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.91.960305173638.3792B-100000@wichita.fn.net>
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 16:31:31 -0500 (EST)
From: Andy <ytsejam@UDel.Edu>
To: "John T. Nguyen" <nuprin@fn.net>
Subject: Andrew Miller the resurrection (Ytsejam post)
Not that anyone but two or three people know who I am but I like to think
I am part of a YTSEJAM family. Just going to ask for a few favors then
get out of here. First, if anybody can get me a copy of the Birchhill
Christmas show please e-mail me. I will do my best to recompinsate.
Also I really need copies of Fugazi, Misplaced Childhood, and B-sides
Themselves, by Marillion. Although I have not really heard any of the
stuff, I just am fumeing to, and I don't want to drive 45 minutes into
Philadelphia, and spend 25 bucks a disc. So if anyone can make me copies
of the Marillion, and or Birchhill DT show. I will hook you up with
whatever you need. Thanks.
Also I just want to say "The REAL Andrew Miller is back" (sorry Andrew
Miller had to say it, no offense taken, right?).
Later--->andy
Oh Yeah--- Let us Andrew Miller's, John Ngyuen's, and Joe Blow's all make
the list a part of are everyday e-mail. Nothing against Ytse-Ben, or
Bafu, or BABS, or the Chew Boys, but there should be more no names like
me on the list.
currently playing-- NIN, the downward spiral
Andrew Miller --or-- Commander Theo Picnic
ytsejam@Udel.Edu The King's Crossing Station
1 Silent Planet Station
Gretchen, Nebraska
USA
Earth
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 16:40:04 -0700
From: Baldy <laussade@enet.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Pointblank guy.
Message-ID: <199603052340.QAA13675@maple.enet.net>
> SO why are you guys limiting this place to
>only DT.. I MEAN how much DT can you talk about before it gets old and
>repeated?!?!?!?
Well....first of all, this IS the Dream Theater mailing list...and second of
all, we do talk about other bands...maybe you would notice this if YOUR SOLE
PURPOSE IN LIFE WASN'T TO PISS PEOPLE OFF!!!!!!!!!
Whew....sorry.
Something else....I try and try to dislike alternative....but, hey...I like
most of it. What can I say? It's not that bad....just reeeeeeeeeeeeally
simple. :-)
Ben Laussade
We don't need no stinkin' DTC!
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Date: Tue, 05 Mar 1996 18:45:57 EST
From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 03/05/96 - 23:45:07" <response@ibmmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mail Item Format Warning
Message-ID: <199603052346.PAA15557@mindcrime.ax.com>
The mail item that you sent at 23:45:46 GMT on 05 Mar 1996 has been delivered.
However, it has been necessary to convert this item into a
format that is acceptable to the recipient, FITIPMOL at IBMMAIL.
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 17:48:24 -0600
From: rtgood@students.wisc.edu (Sir Ryan of Good)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: An Open Letter to Mr. Varney
Message-ID: <199603052348.RAA73633@audumla.students.wisc.edu>
Mr. Mike Varney:
Isn't Magna Carta and Shrapnel part of the same company?? Why would
you want to worry about progressive metal is Magna Carta already has it
covered??? I don't know how great Neoclassical Metal will do these
days....the label immediately flashes Yngwie across my mental screen. I can
Guarentee that the public want's nothing to do with people who can shred but
sound the same on every album. Yngwie is one of those. Who else is there?
That's probably your point: There aren't any other neoclassical metal
musicians...just make sure you DON'T fall for any Yngwies......I could go
for some fresh metal though, even if it is in "Yngwie's Genre"
I wish you the best of luck. As for progressive, Auditory Imagery
is a great band with a CD out called So Alive; I'm unaware of their current
status. Leviathan's "Deepest Secrets Beneath" is a great CD, and Imperium's
"Too Short a Season" kicks ass as well; I don't know what either of these
other bands are up to either. Good luck and keep the Ytsejam up to date!!!
****By the Way. The opinions about Yngwie are the opinions of the
author (me) and any amount of flaming or disagreeing WILL NOT change the
fact that I think Yngwie HAS to get into a different business***
____________________________________
"Raise a little Cain when Abel turns away"
name - Ryan T. Good
e-mail - rtgood@students.wisc.edu
phone - 1-(608)-264-2268
what - Madison Student Radio
who - Music Staff (Music Stapher)
which kind - Progressive Rock/Heavy Metal
why - why not?
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 16:09:18 PST
From: Mark Smeets <msmeets@ibm.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: bass
Message-ID: <199603060014.AAA13758@pop01.ny.us.ibm.net>
** Reply to note from ytsejam@ax.com 03/05/96 3:22pm -0800
Muzz and Whimbish
Sorry, I listened to a few songs off Living Color's last cd
with Whimbish, I wasn't impressed and I also haven't heard
Whimbish's past work but For muzz, I think he's excellent
and the tapes I have of him with LC are great and a great
example of bass playing.
Mark
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#In the darkness, *The misty Ghosts of childhood fears
#I was stumblin to find the door *The Pressure is building, I can't stay away
#To find A reason,
#To find the time, the place, the hour.
^I throw myself into the sea, release the wave let it wash over me.
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Date: 05 Mar 1996 17:23:17 GMT
From: "Steven Johnson" <svjohnson@amoco.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: YTSEJAM digest 1315
Message-ID: <199603060038.AA01536@interlock.amoco.com>
*** Reply to note of 03/02/96 23:58
Mid-Ytse-Con is still on....It's just Bigman had car trouble when he was gonna
come to Chi-town to work on details. Now, he and Sinista will probably come
here next week to do this. Shirts and management contacts are in the works. We
just need to decide between Chicago and Milwaukee....THEN GET THE DT BOYS OUT
HERE!!!!!!!!! E-mail me if you haven't and are interested in comin'. We got
double-digits plus their friends already!!!! LATER-
Steve
***************************************************************
"I'll be defending you on the charge of......MURDER ONE!?! Wow!
Even if I lose, I'll be famous!!" - Lionel Hutz, attorney
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Date: 05 Mar 1996 17:29:17 GMT
From: "Steven Johnson" <svjohnson@amoco.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: YTSEJAM digest 1317
Message-ID: <199603060039.AA01581@interlock.amoco.com>
*** Reply to note of 03/03/96 22:00
OK....Jeff Chew is talking about Ytsecon III for late June. Jeff---Sinista is
talking to DT management about possibly getting them or some of them to the
Mid-Ytse-Con. I don't wanna be a drag, but. Can you talk with us first re: the
latest East Coast thang. We midwesterners would like a chance to get these
guys out here and if we have competing events, it'll only hurt us both (us
more than you re:travel). E-mail me so we can discuss. I don't want
factionalism to occur. Right now we were aiming for late June early July.
LATER-
Steve
***************************************************************
"I'll be defending you on the charge of......MURDER ONE!?! Wow!
Even if I lose, I'll be famous!!" - Lionel Hutz, attorney
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 19:44:26 -0500 (EST)
From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Real YtseLosers (sorry, Bigman)
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9603051900.A26107-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
> From: keu@pointblank.com
> Subject: YTSEJAM digest 1322
>
> YT>From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
>
> YT> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> YT> \|/ ____ \|/ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/
> YT> "@'/ ,. \`@" cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu "@'/ ,. \`@"
> YT> /_| \__/ |_\ d-man@dreamt.org /_| \__/ |_\
> YT> \__U_/ http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/
>
> WHAT THE HELL IS THIS CHRIS???
Um, it's a .signature file, jackass.
----> From: keu@pointblank.com > Subject: YTSEJAM digest 1322 > > Heres a Question: > > What is the infauation with DT???? Its not > like they are the BEST PROG. Band out there... There are a hell of alot > of bands out there that are STILL better then DT!!!
Well, if you think so, then I'm not going to argue the point. You dig your shit, I'll dig mine.
> SO why are you guys limiting this place to > only DT.. I MEAN how much DT can you talk about before it gets old and > repeated?!?!?!?
Um, this is a Dream Theater list, dickbrain. Now, look. I don't know if you just feel like causing trouble, or if you don't get enough attention at home. Maybe another pointblank subscriber put you up to this (a co-worker, maybe?), but stop. You're not funny, and you're wasting our time. And watch out, there's a .sig file coming.
------------------------------------------------------------------------ \|/ ____ \|/ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ "@'/ ,. \`@" cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu "@'/ ,. \`@" /_| \__/ |_\ d-man@dreamt.org /_| \__/ |_\ \__U_/ http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 20:03:38 -0500 (EST) From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@freenet.tlh.fl.us> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Itchy is gay??? Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.960305200303.29176B-100000@fn3.freenet.tlh.fl.us>
Umm...is Itchy really gay??? Buahahahahahahahahaha
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 19:10:04 -0600 (CST) From: Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu> To: The Ytse-Skadz <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Trolling for flames... Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.960305185004.5406B-100000@indy27.gclab.missouri.edu>
>From: keu@pointblank.com > >Heres a Question: What is the infauation with DT???? Its not >like they are the BEST PROG. Band out there... There are a hell of alot >of bands out there that are STILL better then DT!!!
This mailing list is for "progressive rock/metal with a focus on Dream Theater." There may be bands out there that are better than DT, but we are here, for the most part, to talk about DT. The reason that everyone here is "infatuated (with a *T*) with DT" is that we got on here to talk about them in the first place. He also mentions that Slaughter is a better band because they have sold millions of records. to paraphrase, "Record sales is no fucking guarentee!" Selling millions of records doesn't prove a thing. Yes, they have a large following, but I would be willing to say that if you compare Slaughter's following to it's publicity and do the same with DT, you sill find that DT has just as large, if not larger, following for the limited airplay they get. DT writes songs on the average of 8 minutes in length, not exactly "radio- friendly." A million records sold could mean nothing more than a million blind sheep following the crowd. I'm not saying Slaughter is any better or worse than DT, I'm just saying that we talk about DT because we are here to do just that.
His whole post seems to be flame-bait. Please post in a sensible manner, and don't degrade yourselves and the 'jam.
"Everyone is entitled to their opinion, as long as it's the same as mine."
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 19:18:34 -0600 (CST) From: Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu> To: The Ytse-Skadz <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Skadz... Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.960305191720.5406C-100000@indy27.gclab.missouri.edu>
Skadz sez: >Gabbo sez: >To: The Ytse-Skadz <ytsejam@ax.com> > >Ummm just cuz I am the moderator, doesn't mean I am the list :)
Ummm I know that, Skadz, but you deserve some recognition! :) h t t p : / / w w w . m i s s o u r i . e d u / ~ c 6 7 5 3 1 1 / | Pat Griffin Reality2 Design | | c675311@showme.missouri.edu c675311@cclabs.missouri.edu | h t t p : / / w w w . m i s s o u r i . e d u / ~ c 6 7 5 3 1 1 /
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 17:24:07 -0700 From: swanson@henge.com (Sheila Swanson) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: I am Man Message-ID: <199603060024.RAA10100@henge.com>
Sorry about the bisexual name dudes. I am Man. First off, does anyone have Faith No More's most recent album? I want to get it but haven't heard it yet. How does it compare to The Real Thing and Angel Dust? Second, about musical taste. I listen to everything I hear that I like. I haven't heard any country or rap that I like so far, but I still listen to it with an open ear. If I like it I'll get it. I listen to music that comes from the heart of the player. B.B. King doesn't just play southern black blues, he IS southern black blues. That's music from the heart. As John Petrucci told Guitar World, "All that really matters is attitude." So, play what you are and don't stop others from playing what they are. I agree that the DTdenvercon is hopeless, so, does anyone know the next time DT will be in Denver? I haven't seen them live yet and I am curious to see if the fans mosh or if they sit and watch in complete awe. Hey, I'd pay 20 dollars to see it. Other than Denver, I would have to say Vegas, because my grandparents live there and I could get free room and board. John P's solo that changes effects on ACoS sounds like he was trying to make an easier transition from the solo sound to the heavily distorted sound so as to not distract listeners by switching effects while playing the distorted part.
Lat, Cory
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 19:23:28 -0500 (CDT) From: Charles D Harrison <cdh191@casbah.acns.nwu.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Braindance Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9603051925.A7828-0100000@casbah.acns.nwu.edu>
I was playing DT one day (Awake) and my roommate said that they reminded him of a band called "Braindance." What do you guys know about this band, if anything? He saw them in concert in NY last year.
Charlie
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Date: Tue, 05 Mar 1996 21:29:27 -0400 From: Daniel McCormack <emc@caribe.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Erotomania riffs Message-ID: <313CEA77.3F6D@caribe.net>
Hey everyone. I recently read the DT FAQ and it mentions that Erotomania is composed of riffs from other songs. I don't understand; I can't recognize ANY of them. Could someone please reply with the songs and riffs which are similar? (You might want to include the time in the songs where there's similarity, since I don't see any other easy way to identify a certain riff) Thanks to all who reply. If you want to send it privately, my address is emc@caribe.net.
Thanks, -DMC-
+------------------------------------+ | "Whether you think you can, or you | | think you can't, you're right." | ___ | | (0 0) | Henry Ford +===ooO=(_)=Ooo====+ +------------------------------------+ Daniel McCormack | | "And when you kill a man, youre a | aka InSaNiTy | | murderer. Kill many, and you're a | emc@caribe.net | | conqueror. Kill them all... Oh, +==================+ | You're a god! | / / \ \ | | /_/ \_\ | "Captive Honour," Megadeth | (__) (__) +------------------------------------+
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 20:44:12 -0500 From: GHSRocker@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Vegas Ytsecon Message-ID: <960305204409_161186553@emout06.mail.aol.com>
I will be in Las Vegas during April. Probably during the week of the 15th. If anyone feels like trying to get together, e-mail me and we will talk about this.
I will very likely stop by Ben's place and jam for awhile when I am there and wouldn't mind meeting some of you other Jammers.
Take care all and Bafu Vai(required content).
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 21:45:00 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@moose.uvm.edu> To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Feeling warm all over Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.960305214129.207512A-100000@moose.uvm.edu>
I just wanted to extend a big hi-five to Steve, Mojoman, and D-man for backing me up on the whole Poison/Warrant/DT-thing.
Richie
P.S. I'm up for a west coast Ytsecon. Also, to the jammer that said they were going to the Galactic Cowboys show at the Troubador in LA: there's a chance I might be in town around then. If so, I'll definitely be there too.
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 22:19:24 -0500 (EST) From: "John R. Kotzian" <koggie@cyberspace.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com (ytsejam) Subject: First-Lady O' Da 'Jam? Message-ID: <199603060319.WAA12871@grex.cyberspace.org>
Hey,
Well, we done got ourselves a Prez, How's about a First-Lady? ;)
-Koggie -- -.---.----..-.---.----..-.---.----..-.---.----..-.---.----..-.---.----..
J O H N K O T Z I A N : koggie@cyberspace.org bootlist@cyberspace.org
"I want to look at life, in the available light." - Rush "Let the light surround you." - Dream Theater "O.k., light up." - Bob McKenzie -.---.----..-.---.----..-.---.----..-.---.----..-.---.----..-.---.----..
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Date: Mon, 04 Mar 1996 22:49:36 EST From: FNGX01A@prodigy.com (MR JOHN CAHILLJR) To: Ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Sorry Ben Message-ID: <096.02852849.FNGX01A@prodigy.com>
As you can see in the message header, SORRY BEN. Try this then Be sundae Sal.
My reference to Dream Theater in the past sence in regards to their recordings was because to the best of my knowledge the last official release was ACOS. Therefore what they have played seemed to me the correct thing to say on the subject matter. ALSO when you are a 10 year old kid any instrument is cool. Since I have been friends with John's younger brother since I was six, I have been over his house when he played the violin on more than one occasion.
MOJOMAN; Sorry I did not distinguish that I was doing tech work for the band Marcello at the time and he was the producer of their never released second album. I was there in the studio with John Miceli the drummer who now plays with Meatloaf. So shovel this.
Elen sila lumenn omentilmo, Gandalf
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