YTSEJAM Digest 1320
Today's Topics:
1) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 03/04/96 - 22:17:46" <response@ibmmail.com>
2) new dream theater item....DT WATCH????
by market@clubmet.metrobbs.com
3) new dream theater item....DT WATCH????
by market@clubmet.metrobbs.com
4)
by kurt@fgallery.com
5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1319
by kretschmer@bdt.com (Jon Kretschmer)
6) Re: mixing on ACOS
by drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh)
7) New DT Song Book available... (Repost)
by mrkizer@CCGATE.HAC.COM
8) final call on Dt vote
by Jeff Perrot <c664915@showme.missouri.edu>
9) Fight
by Mark Smeets <msmeets@ibm.net>
10) YtseCon's out to wazoo! (No offense, Jerry :-)
by Baldy <laussade@enet.net>
11) Hello Jammers!!
by Kerr Anthony J <ajk017s@nic.smsu.edu>
12) Re: Place for the YtseCon III
by Jeff Chew <jc309@columbia.edu>
13) Bassists
by Mark Smeets <msmeets@ibm.net>
14) Sherinian Interview!!!!
by Andrew <acos0206@uriacc.uri.edu>
15) Yes, this actually happened.
by Elliott Kim <ekim01@fiu.edu>
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Date: Mon, 04 Mar 1996 17:40:07 EST
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 16:37:24 -0500
From: market@clubmet.metrobbs.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: new dream theater item....DT WATCH????
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.3.4.-16.37.24.4078.1098@clubmet.metrobbs.com>
Being a fan of Dream Theater myself I think it would be nice to
have a "Dream Theater/ytsejam" watch. Since I can not find one myself,
who here would be interested in getting a DT watch as a group?
I have contacts with watch co...etc..etc..but the min order is
about 35-50. Since I want one myself, I can't afford 35 or 50 watches.
(That won't even fit on my arms..eheheh..)
IF YOU are interested in a cool DT watch let me know via e mail.
The price range would be somewhere between 19-35 bucks. Prob more of a
middle of the road price. 29. maybe 25. Just depends on the order.
Of course there would be a sample made first for your viewing on the
net. I just wanted to get a general idea who might be interested.
If we could get about 30 people wanting one, then we could all
have a cool watch in about 45 days or less(from now). ??
write email to:
take care,
todd s
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 16:37:54 -0500
From: market@clubmet.metrobbs.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: new dream theater item....DT WATCH????
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.3.4.-16.37.54.4561.7114@clubmet.metrobbs.com>
Being a fan of Dream Theater myself I think it would be nice to
have a "Dream Theater/ytsejam" watch. Since I can not find one myself,
who here would be interested in getting a DT watch as a group?
I have contacts with watch co...etc..etc..but the min order is
about 35-50. Since I want one myself, I can't afford 35 or 50 watches.
(That won't even fit on my arms..eheheh..)
IF YOU are interested in a cool DT watch let me know via e mail.
The price range would be somewhere between 19-35 bucks. Prob more of a
middle of the road price. 29. maybe 25. Just depends on the order.
Of course there would be a sample made first for your viewing on the
net. I just wanted to get a general idea who might be interested.
If we could get about 30 people wanting one, then we could all
have a cool watch in about 45 days or less(from now). ??
write email to:
take care,
todd s
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 18:49:16 -0400
From: kurt@fgallery.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.3.4.-14.49.16.2916992174.261821@bbs.fgallery.com>
Some guy said that a girl laughed at the bands he listened to : Poison
,Warrant ..and DT???? How can you compare..or even use those three
bands name together?? I agree at her laughing at Poison and Warrant..i
wouldve too..but not Dt..dt kicks ass!!!!!!!!!!!! <-- lame cliche..
My humble opinion.
kurt@fgallery.com
kurt@dreamt.org
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 16:11:42 +0800
From: kretschmer@bdt.com (Jon Kretschmer)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1319
Message-ID: <v01510101ad605419042d@[206.14.103.54]>
From: "M. Stalker (Lugie on IRC)" <4ms28@qlink.queensu.ca>
>I'm in Canada and no one seems too high on having one here!
>I vote for a central location: Chicago is good, Detroit would be even better.
Yeah, but the east coast wasnt very local for anyone. And Imsure there are
tons of people on the west coast. I cant afford anything farther then
about 500 miles. So I NEED the YtseCon !!! to be on the west coast.
Jon has spoken.
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 16:14:37 PST
From: drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: mixing on ACOS
Message-ID: <199603050014.QAA23318@netcom3.netcom.com>
Those aren't the only mixing anomalies during ACOS, if you notice, there's
also a different snare sound in different movements of the song... they
used multiple sessions during recording and mixdown definitely...
-The Doc
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Date: Mon, 04 Mar 96 15:24:50 PST From: mrkizer@CCGATE.HAC.COM To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: New DT Song Book available... (Repost) Message-ID: <9602048259.AA825985020@CCGATE.HAC.COM>
Just want to let everyone know that a new and improved version of the internationally renowned Dream Theater "Unoffical" Song Book is ready for your perusal. Get a copy today, tell your friends... 8^) The best way to get it is from my web page. For those with no web access, you can retrieve it via email from the Ytsejam mailing list archive (see below). Thanks, and enjoy! The Dream Theater "Unofficial Song Book" is a complete listing of all Dream Theater lyrics (Official releases, singles, EPs, cover tunes, the Kevin Moore demos, etc.). It is available via the following methods: WWW: http://www.indirect.com/www/mkizer/dt/dt.htm FTP: www.indirect.com/www/mkizer/dt/dt_sb12.txt Email from the Ytsejam Mailing List Archive send: get ytsejam dt_sb12.txt Address it to: ytsejam-request@ax.com with a subject of: asdf If you wish to include links from your web pages, the name of the actual file changes with each revision (but I'll let everybody know when that happens). The WWW address listed above will not change (so that's a safe one). But the following are subject to change (when ever I find the time and/or new material to add): Dream Theater page: http://www.indirect.com/www/mkizer/dt/dt.htm ASCII Song Book: http://www.indirect.com/www/mkizer/dt/dt_sb12.txt HTML Song Book: http://www.indirect.com/www/mkizer/dt/dt_sb12.htm If you can't get a copy using the above methods or have any comments or questions, send me an email at mrkizer@ccgate.hac.com
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 18:54:52 -0600 (CST) From: Jeff Perrot <c664915@showme.missouri.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: final call on Dt vote Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.960304185107.56264A-100000@black.missouri.edu>
This is the last call to put in your vote for favorite Dream Theater song. I'll be posting the results near the end of this week. I've got many votes, but I know you all haven't participated. So far, the results are unanimous, but I'll keep you in suspense. Send your vote to: c664915@showme.missouri.edu with a subject of "DT vote" Thanks.
Jeff (Haus)
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 16:56:08 PST From: Mark Smeets <msmeets@ibm.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Fight Message-ID: <199603050101.BAA11533@pop01.ny.us.ibm.net>
** Reply to note from ytsejam@ax.com 03/04/96 2:07pm -0800
Date: Mon, 04 Mar 1996 16:56:08 -0500 From: "M. Stalker (Lugie on IRC)" <4ms28@qlink.queensu.ca> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Scott Travis in Fight Message-ID: <1.5.4b11.32.19960304215608.006dc1f8@qlink.queensu.ca>
Bafu Vai said on Mon, 4 Mar 1996 02:18:35 -0800 (PST):
>> Currently playing: Judas Priest - Painkiller. Scott Travis should be >> locked away for being that fast! :-)
>Scott Travis?? As in Racer X?? I heard "Painkiller" a long time ago and was fascinated by the drumming, but never got into Judas Priest. I've also been listening to Racer X's "Live Extreme Volume" for the last year wondering if "Mister Scott Travis onda drumkit!!" ever got into another >band. Now I gotta check out Judas Priest...
-Actually Scott left Judas Priest, when Rob Halford did, to -join Fight.
Scott and Rob left Priest to join Fight because they needed a change and the other guys in Priest, KkDowning and Glen Tipton, and of course Ian Hill but they were going to go back to the way they use to write songs, like Ram it down etc...Rob and Scott, both wanted to do another album like Painkiller, so, Rob was also sick of Tipton's and Downing's ego's, so, he and scott up and left.
-I've heard some of the singles off their -records, (one is -called _War of Words_ and they have one -more) and they -kick.
"War of Words" was the second single released I believe, "Nailed to the Gun" was first, and "A little Crazy" was last. Nailed was also the first video. The band does kick ass and I wish that they had released their second cd like the first one, but there are few songs on the new FIght that I dig. The 3 albums released were War of Words, then Mutations which was an EP of the last album with live material and also remixes of the albums songs. Very cool cd and its better than their war of words cd, the last cd they released was "A Small Deadly Space" which didn't do good at all, in fact it was a bomb up here in Canada and I don't know how well it did in the US but it was nowhere as near the excellence of their first. THe problem was that everyone kept comparing Fight, to Pantera in which both bands are totally different, I mean, pantera, to me at least, sux donkey balls now(FBD was a fucking horrible cd) and the 2 styles of music that each band plays, are too different to compare.
The only problem with this -band is that one of the guitarists likes to double -Halford's vocals death-metal-style. It's pretty lame; -thank God it's low in the mix.
That is what makes up the rythm of the band though, it's a vocal based band, not a guitar band so, to most guitarists, thats pretty dumb but to vocalists, it's pretty cool imho. The 2 guitarists kick ass tho and so does the bassist, man, when I saw them live, holy shit I was impressed.
-"Nailed to the Gun" is an excellent tune.
Yea it is and its too bad the band Broke up just recently BUT halford is forming another band.
Mark
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 18:04:23 -0700 From: Baldy <laussade@enet.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: YtseCon's out to wazoo! (No offense, Jerry :-) Message-ID: <199603050104.SAA29026@maple.enet.net>
>The suggested date for the YtseCon III is somewhere like Late May to=20 >early June (probably early June). Since it is not during a tour or=20 >anything plus I'll be getting to management two months ahead of time, the= =20 >schedule for DT will probably be clear. But, I do have to act fast. I'm= =20 >thinking of having the DT tribute in my HS theatre (which was recently=20 >renovated and is EXTREMELY nice). I have connections so I'll probably be= =20 >able to rent it out for a night and a lot of my neighbors are into DT so=20 >they would definitely go (plus I could say to my friends that DT visited=20 >my school!). =20 > >Well, that's all I have so far. If any of you guys have any suggestions=20 >or would like to help, that'd be great! Drop me a line if you have=20 >anything to say or suggest, etc. TTYL!
Sheesh! There's this...Mid-YtseCon and VegasCon. /me is hopeful. My aunt in New York is in labor as I type this...so, a visit there this summer might be in order. If so, I'll come see all you guys!=20
>Although I was willing to set up/host a Phoenix summer Ytsecon,=20 >the guy who suggested Las Vegas has the better idea. It'd be far better=20 >to do it there. Most plane tickets into Vegas are a lot cheaper than=20 >equivalent flights into Phoenix. Let's see if we can make it happen! >
Woohoo! Two Con's! :-) Everybody who thinks they would be able to attend this, or are at least interested, drop me a mail. You too, Mike B.
This just in from Sheila Swanson: >I'm new here, so I am going to start by saying something totally irrelevent >to get conversation started. > >Is Dream Theater God or what?
Irrelevent? That's not irrelevent. You wanna see something REEEAAAAALLY irellevent.....just kidding. Ytse-Ben Laussade welcomes you to the Ytsejam Digest, Home of the Roaming Bafu's. (WeverTF that's supposed to mean...just thought it sounded cool). Anywho, I'm Ben and I'll be your waiter. Could I get you a drinking game to start off with? Or maybe some evil black nachos. For the main course, we have flames, religious discussions and even a few posts about Dream Theater (Which will be known as DT from here on out). For dessert, we have about 3 million upcoming YtseCons and a Dream Theater Tribute Album that is impossible....or is it? Hope you enjoy your stay.
As for Mr. Magical Kobayashi Avoid Ski Hay....Bad!
>>Sorry, just a pet peave..kind of like spelling dream Theatre!!!! argh!! :) > >Aargh! It's pet peeve, not pet peave! :)
Speaking of peeves, if I ever get a pet, that's what I'm naming it. :-) Also, in the liner notes of Parralels, Dream Theater was spelled Dream Theatre. Practical Joke or honest mistake? You be the judge.
>Tori woons your inner child, while DT kicks your inner child's a$$!
I digested my inner child.
>I think the song was called "Holiday" or something of that travelling >nature. Anyone with any memory of this 80's tune please e-mail me, cause >it's burning a hole in my crackpipe. ("crackpipe" (c) Wildkoba Magical >Brain-Hurting-Funk Productions 1996)
Hey Bafu...need one of these? =A9 :-)
> But, I do have to act fast. I'm thinking of having the DT tribute in my > HS theatre (which was recently renovated and is EXTREMELY nice).=20
Who is Tribute-ing? Does this include me? Or, was it something that somebody else is doing that was already planned?
>Would it be at all possible to delete myself, dylan4@mdx.ac.uk from the >ytsejam mailing list, as the messages are rather long, and some of them >do not come out becuse my buffer is too full.=20
Wimp! :-)
As for the meaning of Lie...I always imagined like a James Bond movie...y'know...the part where the bodacious babe betrays James (don't ask which movie...it happens in all of 'em)? Whoa...James LaBrie as James Bond? Hell...James Bond with long hair? Cool. I'd like to hear DT do a cover of the JB theme. Mission:Impossible kicks too much ass.
IMO, the best version of Metropolis has to be the studio. Surrounded is great on LatM. TKH is aaaaaawwesome on LatM. Best PMU is studio. Best LtL is TDoE.=20
>As for YTSE Con in Las Vegas. Yes, I have been working with Todd >Strictland on this for several months. =20
Sheesh! Why didn't anybody tell me?!?!! Need help, send me a mail.
Also, I'm begging you...LV instead of SF. I have no relatives with new babies in San Fran.
>I'm a fan from Quebec of Dream Theatre. I'm practicing piano,=20 >and everybody knows that Kevin wrote really good songs on it.
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAHGHGhahghghghahgha..cough cough...D-R-E-A-M T-H-E-A-T-E-R.
Whoa. That was a long one.
=20
Ben Laussade We don't need no stinkin' DTC!
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 19:05:28 -0600 (CST) From: Kerr Anthony J <ajk017s@nic.smsu.edu> To: ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Hello Jammers!! Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9603041821.A111780-0100000@nic.smsu.edu>
I just got my WDATU --Thanks Mike!!!-- so I decided it was time for me to send my first post. For everyone that is waiting for their WDATU, mine was post-marked Mar.1 and got here today, Monday-Mar.4...This means Mike had sent at least through #435 last Fri. Just thought some of you would like to know.
I'll make this post short since a lot of you can't keep up with the large volume of issues here. Just wanted to say that Chicago would be a great place (for me and about 1 dozen of my friends) for another YTSECON. Do it anytime...I live in St.Louis and would be happy to make the drive.
Also, being fairly new, I missed the opportunity for AD and the Majesty demos (were the MD even sold over the jam?) and would love to get my hands on them. If anyone is willing to give up a copy, make a copy, or has any info. PLEASE e-mail me.
Thanks folks-
Tony Kerr
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 20:09:44 -0500 (EST) From: Jeff Chew <jc309@columbia.edu> To: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu> Subject: Re: Place for the YtseCon III Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960304200727.18784A-100000@merhaba.cc.columbia.edu>
Dear guys,
Well, it depends on the feedback I get from the jam. Jammers, if any of you are from places other than NYC-Long Island-Westchester and plan to come to the YtseCon III, let me know through email.
It won't be too bad when it comes to getting a hotel or convention center in New Jersey, plus it will probably be near an airport. But, I need feedback!
Yours, Jeff =)
On Mon, 4 Mar 1996, Christopher R. Merlo wrote:
> New Jersey seems like a good idea if you're expecting lots of people from > all over the place, but if most of us are going to be from > city/island/westchester, then something more local might be better. Then > again, there is the thing about some of the DT guys living in Jersey. > How many faraway people are we expecting?
<*> Jeff Chew <*> jc309@columbia.edu <*> (212) 853-6952 <*> <*> http://www.columbia.edu/~jc309 <*> <*> Lifting Shadows : http://www.columbia.edu/~jc309/dreamt.html <*>
"Lifting Shadows Off a Dream once broken, she can turn a drop of water into an ocean" -- John Myung, Dream Theater
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 17:10:16 PST From: Mark Smeets <msmeets@ibm.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Bassists Message-ID: <199603050115.BAA20850@pop01.ny.us.ibm.net>
** Reply to note from ytsejam@ax.com 03/04/96 2:07pm -0800
I can add one other bassist who is incredible and doesn't know much theory but plays like a god, Muzz Skilings from Living Color, not this new guy Doug Whimbish who's all FX. Pick up Living Color's vivid, phenominal bass playing.
Mark
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 17:20:18 -0800 From: Andrew <acos0206@uriacc.uri.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Sherinian Interview!!!! Message-ID: <199603050120.RAA22134@mindcrime.ax.com>
For those of you that have heard of it, there is a magazine called Korg Proview that comes out every once in awhile to owners of Korg stuff (Like me :) ) Well, the latest issue I got had an interview of Derek and what he's using and about the album and just about everything else!! First, I found out that he starting playing classical when he was five (I think he can play Liszt) and has been playing for about twenty-five years. At the age of 16 he took his G.E.D. and went to Berklee. He's very excited about the new album because he's never been a participating composer or been encouraged to actually stand out and play. He admits the the complex keys were hard at first but now he's getting the hang of it. He says this about Petrucci: "He has a precise, complex, musical mind and I've really learned a lot from him. Just by playing with him, having to be in this situation and having to learn his solos, it really pushes me." The new album is going to be a little less dark than "Awake". They're trying to do more radio friendly songs like PMU but at the same time try to get more progressive. Hmmm. . . In case anyone didn't know (like me), he read the jam a couple weeks after he joined and saw how skeptical people were about him. And for those interested, he's using the new Korg Prophecy for about 90% of his solos.
*********************************************************** ** -9 out of 10 psychologists recommend the music ** ** of Dream Theater to augment the senses and ** ** to create a natural feeling of euphoria. ** ** ** ** -To do things right, you must do them yourself. ** ** -To do nothing at all becomes someone else's problem. ** ** ** *********************************************************** -Andrew C.-
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 20:38:54 -0500 (EST) From: Elliott Kim <ekim01@fiu.edu> To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Yes, this actually happened. Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960304202844.25896A-100000@solix>
No, I don't think I'm wierd...
But anyway. There was talk of dreams on the list and I had a really wierd one that was related to the Ytsejam. I don't remember the *exact* details, so I'll just fill them in to make it flow better - artistic license. ;)
I dreamt that it was about 7 or 8 years in the future. I was reading the jam and I saw something that looked like this:
> Hello Ytsejammers, > > Ben is such a nice boy, but he's having problems with women. He's > already 21 and he's never had a girlfriend that I approve of. I figured > that since he's a really big DT fan, I should post here and ask all you > eligible females to date my son. Everyone here seems cool and I'm sure a > common interest (such as DT) would be a good place to start. I know he's > a little wierd, but don't let that scare you away. He really is a nice > boy. > > Nancy Laussade, > Ben's mom. >
I've had some wierd dreams before but this one really tops them all.
. . .. Elliott Kim Florida International University .. . ekim01@fiu.edu E-Man@dreamt.org .
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