YTSEJAM Digest 1309
Today's Topics:
1) I&W vs. Awake
by "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@moose.uvm.edu>
2) favorite song
by Jeff Perrot <c664915>
3) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 03/01/96 - 07:47:30" <response@ibmmail.com>
4) Subscription
by Dave Fernquist <103362.445@compuserve.com>
5) Stuff
by CLIFF & PAM WHEATON <cwheaton@micron.net>
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1304 (fwd)
by KTYA28B@prodigy.com (MS DEBBIE M VESTAL)
7) Join the list (WWW generated email)
by Jaime Martinez <Jaimem@ccmail.versant.com>
8) John Petrucci guitar clinics in Germany + ANGRA
by auzzy@mails2.entpe.fr (Stephane Auzilleau)
9) Instrumentals
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
10) Video/Pantera/stuff
by nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop)
11) Four-Letter Words
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
12) Re: BorlangW -- Bruce?
by borlangw <borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk>
13) Thought
by fitipmol@ibmmail.com
14) Reading this will cost you about .5 mins of your time =)
by Karri K Kiviluoma <kkiviluo@snakemail.hut.fi>
15) Nu Jammer
by "Malcolm" <maw195@soton.ac.uk>
16) Magna Carta/KISS/stuff
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
17) YTSEJAM digest 1308
by "Steven Johnson" <svjohnson@amoco.com>
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 02:36:11 -0500 (EST)
From: "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@moose.uvm.edu>
To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: I&W vs. Awake
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.960301021545.187670A-100000@moose.uvm.edu>
I'm not so sure that I agree that the first album you hear buy a band is
automatically your favorite. Granted, that album will always hold a
special place in your heart, but I think most people are able to realize
when a band has surpassed even its own achievements. That being said, I'm
going to totally go back on that statement and say that I like I&W better
than Awake. And I'm not really sure why. I certainly hate the triggered
drums (making a drummer with such subtle grace notes use triggers should
be a capital offense). And for some reason, the studio version of LtL
doesn't do it for me (but the live version blows me away). Maybe it's
because I&W contains my favorite DT song of all time ("Surrounded") as
well as such masterpieces and DT staples like "Metropolis" and TTT. But
mainly I think it is just a question of time. Due to all that legal
bullshit they had to go through w/Mechanic, they had years (I assume) to
constantly refine and rework a song. They only had three months (I think)
to write all of Awake. From what I understand, it took them that long just
to write Metropolis. I'm not saying that Awake sounds rushed, because it
is one of the most brilliant albums I've ever heard. I just think that if
given more time, they could have given the songs a little more...texture,
I guess is the word I'm looking for. I don't know. Maybe I'm full of
shit. Okay, I'm full of shit. I'm glad they didn't put out Images and
Words II though. At least they have the balls to try new stuff (The
Silent Man, Space-Dye Vest). As long as they do that, they'll be
progressive.
Richie
P.S. I quick "hi" to John Arch. At first I thought that someone else just
had the same as you. But it's you. Cool. That probably made no sense. Oh
well, you can't win them all. I'm going to bed now.
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 01:39:47 -0600 (CST)
From: Jeff Perrot <c664915>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: favorite song
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.960301013207.204300C-100000@black.missouri.edu>
A few jams ago, someone asked what the ytsejammer's favorite song is.
That got me thinking... I'll start collecting your responses. So for
the next week, tell me your favorite song--only one--and I'll keep a
tally and let you all know of the results. Send to
c664915@showme.missouri.edu with a subject of "DT vote" .
You should see the results in a week or two.
Jeff
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Date: Fri, 01 Mar 1996 02:48:20 EST
From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 03/01/96 - 07:47:30" <response@ibmmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mail Item Format Warning
Message-ID: <199603010748.XAA13156@mindcrime.ax.com>
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Date: 01 Mar 96 01:03:58 EST
From: Dave Fernquist <103362.445@compuserve.com>
To: Ytsejam <Ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Subscription
Message-ID: <960301060357_103362.445_JHL81-1@CompuServe.COM>
Hello There;
Did you receive my subscription request? If not, please add me to the mailing
list. Thanks,
DAVE
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 96 01:41 MST
From: CLIFF & PAM WHEATON <cwheaton@micron.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Stuff
Message-ID: <m0tsQP1-000QbwC@mis01.micron.net>
Hey all!
Ok-someone asked about some thing different to talk about: here
goes: Any critiques or compliments gladly welcomed. I wrote this last summer
and would like to share it with everyone:
THE QUESTION
Is life planned completely or do we have some power?
are we controlled from birth, 'til that final hour?
Is it already written in some divine book?
are we moved around daily, as a pawn or a rook?
Or do we have choice, like a freestyle dance?
just wandering through life, leaving all to chance?
Do we rely on our wisdom, 'til the very end?
do we choose which direction,at roads every bend?
Some believe fate, some cry freewill.
some say God moves us o'er each of life's hills.
The answer for me, as life makes her demands.
the gods and I, just walk hand in hand.
Dt content: I've fallen in love with Awake. IMHO, I&W is #2, ACOS #3, I
can't say much for WDADU I haven't heard it yet. I've heard mention of an
acoustic version of LSOaD-Is this the version on Awake? Forgive me if this
is a really dumb question-I'm new to these guys. If it isn't, is there
actually a prettier version of this? It's a pretty song-I truly enjoy it.
Yes, I have to admit that Dream Theater is the first band I've actually
gotten truly exited about since I discovered Rush and Pink Floyd. It's been
a long time.Yes, I finally broke down and ordered WDADU. Hopefully it'll be
here soon.
I'll be trying the IRC saturday night- I hope to get it to work this time-I
downloaded the one mentioned on an earlier "jam" I get home too late(early)
to really find anyone there-I think- anywhere between midnight and 3am most
nights. If theres someone that is there-let me know.
Keep Rockin'
Pam
___/----^--\____
< /__rockin' cabbie_\o
0 0
TAKING THE ROAD TO ADVENTURE
(Pam) cwheaton@micron.net
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Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 04:16:49 EST
From: KTYA28B@prodigy.com (MS DEBBIE M VESTAL)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1304 (fwd)
Message-ID: <096.02471863.KTYA28B@prodigy.com>
Hey Scott...please read ALL of this...it starts out sort of hot..but I AM
NOT FLAMING YOU.....You wrote:
>Whoa! You're treadin' on shallow ground there. I'm also a classical
>musician and it is my goal to mate technical ability with expressivity. I
>hope I just misunderstood what you meant.
To my eyes GADEM's post dripped in condescension and sounded
so....snobbish that I really got pissed. Your post didn't seem to be in
the same vein. For GADEM to call Dream Theater's music "stuff?" To
offhandedly laugh off the idea??? BAHHHH!!!!!!! I'll remember that IF I
ever see anything by the mighty GADEM....who is probably a TECHNICIAN extraordinaire.
I do believe that more than a few classical musicians, such as GADEM,
have piss poor attitudes that really drive me nuts. A great concert
pianist who is able to wrench every ounce of emotion from a piece and do it
in a way that has NOT been done before IS an artist. There are just TOO
many classically trained people that confuse being a great technician with
being a great artist...sometimes the greatest artists ENTIRELY LACK formal
training (Jimi Hendrix). Art is creation. Art is not just expression
and/or technique. As to classical training....do you mean to tell me that
Kevin Moore didn't start PLAYING until college? What about all those years
that came before? And don't read too much into comments like "I didn't
have what it took..." That could mean any number of things...he might not
have had the time....he might not have had the interest (I wonder if he
REALLY loves classical....if he didn't, he probably wouldn't stay), he
might've had the time, the talent, even the inclination...but just couldn't
hack that kind of a setting....etc. Another point...remember the classical
musicians who thought rock was cake and tried to jump headfirst into it.
There has been at least ONE of note. I have the utmost respect for
classical musicians who love what they do, sacrifice enormous ammounts of
time to their training...and then end up getting paid peanuts for all of
that effort. On the other hand, that does NOT give them the right to be
condescending. There are many classically trained pianists that CAN play
Liszt and that would jump ship in a moment to perform with Dream
Theater....why didn't they make the cut? I honestly don't know whether
Kevin Moore can play Liszt...I really doubt if Darek can...but I am so sick
of hearing classically trained musicians acting as if they have some kind
of monopoly on talent and art that I can't stand it. I know this has
turned into a TIRADE. And I'm NOT aiming this at YOU...really I'm not. I
just had to state my stance.
Cat
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~IN GODS WE TRUST.........................................
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ALL OTHERS PAY CASH......................
-STEVEN BRUST
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 04:23:03 -0500
From: Jaime Martinez <Jaimem@ccmail.versant.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Join the list (WWW generated email)
Message-ID: <199603010923.EAA23120@nermal.catt.ncsu.edu>
Please, send all the info you can.
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 11:34:18 GMT
From: auzzy@mails2.entpe.fr (Stephane Auzilleau)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: John Petrucci guitar clinics in Germany + ANGRA
Message-ID: <199603011134.LAA01231@mails2.entpe.fr>
Hi jammers,
Does one German jammer could give me the address of teh Musikfachgeschaeft
Landry in Saarbrueckem? I would like to go there, but I need to have some
more informations...
Thanks for the info,
Stephane
PS: The new album of ANGRA (brazilian band) is a masterpiece! "holy land" is
very innovative and experimental. Classical music has never been as well
integrated in heavy metal as it is on "Holy land". Highly recommended...
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 02:02:16 -0800 (PST)
From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Instrumentals
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91j.960301015350.135971G-100000@homer10.u.washington.edu>
> From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1303
>
> "Showdown" is the working title of one of the songs form the new album.
> And, those words for TLF are lyrics added for the studio version of TLF
> from the Silent Man Single.
Yes, I've heard that "Showdown" is a song to be on the forthcoming album.
If this is true, why did Mike Bahr take that name and use it to title the
2+ year-old instrumental "Barfbag?" Did DT play this same instrumental at
a show during the summer of 1995 and say it was called "Showdown?" I have
a tape of the NAMM show from 1994, in which Petrucci does the instrumental
on the end of WDATU and says, "Thank you...that was Barfbag..." Plus Mike
Portnoy has referred to this instrumental on more than one occasion as
"Barfbag," so when did the name change, or is Mike Bahr mixed up?
Let me try to get this straight:
"Moon Bubbles" is the instrumental usually found after "To Live Forever."
It starts out with volume swells on keys and guitar, and is basically
played at the same tempo and key as "TLF."
"Barfbag" is a very uptempo, jazzy piece that starts out with chromatic
guitar and kicks into a real groovy, rather long guitar spot.
Does anyone remember if "Showdown" had any lyrics if/when DT actually
played it live? Was it the instrumental from the end of WDATU? Is there
anyone alive who has WDATU and has heard the ending instrumental, and has
also heard "Showdown," and can tell me if the two are the same?
One other question: Did DT play three or four shows in Japan a few months
ago to support ACOS?
Bafu Vai
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 96 11:07:15 +0100
From: nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Cc: nga@server3.software-ag.de
Subject: Video/Pantera/stuff
Message-ID: <9603011007.AA00258@sundoc13.software-ag.de>
Hi all
I secumbed to the temptation of the tube last night. I admit it was a sign of
a weak character, but I only watched videos. I started the evening off nice
and gently with Sepultura's "Third World Chaos", and followed it with "Live
in Tokio" by some East coast band. The drummer played a solo which was loosely
based on "By Demons Be Driven" by Pantera, so logically the next video to be
shoved into the hungry maw of my insatiable VCR was "Vulgar Video". Has anybody
else seen it? Those guys could certainly give us a few tips about drinking
games! And talk about powerful music - the live versions of "Domination" and
"Primal Concrete Sledge" that they play in Moscow have got to be some of the
most electric, energetic, rawest, toughest, hardest music I have ever heard. It
is no wonder that Mike Portnoy paid a little tribute to the band by sneaking
that little bit of "By Demons Be Driven" into his solo (some Dream Theater
content).
Talking of Pantera and Mike Portnoy: a couple of older bands (notably The
Grateful Dead and The Allman Brothers) had two drummers. How about having
Mike Portnoy and Vinnie Paul play together? They would blow the combination
of Chester Thompson/Phil Collins clean out of the water. Or let's really go
over the top, and include Chris Kontos (ex Machine Head) as well - let's get
ready to rumble!
My two smallest coins-worth of your local currency about the gay/sex/drugs/etc
stuff: as far as I'm concerned, the whole band (or bits of it) could rodger
each other with prize leeks and do a six-pack of hamsters each weekend while
drinking industrial cleaning fluid through a tramp's old sock - it's the music
that counts for me. As Ian Dury used to sing "sex and drugs and rock'n'roll are
all my mind and body need". (Pulls on asbestos underwear and retires to nuclear
shelter).
By the way, I bought "Machine Fish" by the Galactic Cowboys yesterday: nice.
stay safe and happy listening
Neil Gallop
(nga@software-ag.de)
Currently playing: Anathema - The Silent Enigma
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 02:45:03 -0800 (PST)
From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Four-Letter Words
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91j.960301021130.135971L-100000@homer10.u.washington.edu>
The following post was a reply to someone asking the question of whether
or not Kevin Moore and Derek Sherinian could play Franz Liszt, a composer
of extremely complex piano music.
> From: GADEM@why.net (GADEM)
> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1304
>
> What??? Yea right they could play them. Do you have any idea what it
> takes to play classical music? I play piano - and there is no way they
> could. The technical, let alone musical concepts are of a completely
> different nature than the stuff Dream Theater puts out.
>
> Yea.
What does it take to play classical music? Howabout a different
question...
Any guitarists out there? Think you can't possibly tap like Jennifer
Batten? Count the number of fingers she has, then count yours. If you both
have the same number, chances are you're capable of the same techniques.
So what does it take to play classical music? It takes exactly what I've
got; a brain, a will, and ten nimble fingers. When Liszt was born he was a
messy, crying baby with no talent and no intelligence whatsoever. And he
certainly couldn't play the piano. Coincidentally, I was born the same
way. With Absolutely Nothing. All humans start at ground zero.
There's no reason in the world why Kevin Moore or Derek Sherinian "can't"
play Franz Liszt. I would say that people "can't" breathe gasoline because
they CAN'T. As for a person not being able to do what another person does,
in all of my humility I will state right here that unless you have eleven
fingers or a third arm, you must be pretty damn incredible to pull off a
technique on the fretboard that I "can't" learn.
Yes, I know Liszt is technical. So is Chopin. Any idea why no one on this
list has mentioned Alkan? Yes he was a contemporary of these two "popular"
pianists, with an existence almost completely obscured due to the ungodly
technical nature of his music. There are Chopin competitions held in
Warsaw every year. There are no Alkan competitions, and I don't believe
there ever will be, simply because, as stated above, all humans start at
ground zero. No one begins life with ten years of piano lessons under
their belt. Maybe when people are living past the age of 100 there will be
time for such refinement of ability necessary to play Charles Valentin
Alkan.
There are no Alkan competitions, and there is a reason for this. But I
don't doubt for a second that if someone were to dedicate their lives to
playing the piano all the time, every day, and nothing else, they could
learn to play Alkan, Liszt, and Chopin with one hand while eating bologna
sandwiches with the other.
I'm going to assume you've never heard how Paul Gilbert played his guitar
on Mr. Big's 1993 album, "Bump Ahead." Compare that with his Racer X days
and you will be very confused. Compare both of those with what he does at
clinics, and you will wonder why the hell he holds back so much with Mr.
Big. Not that I'm implying DT are capable of doing loads more than they
already do, I think they already blast as much as they can into their
music. They give all they've got and more. (they don't give up till
they've no more to give, bottoms up) I'm just saying that many musicians
are capable of much, much more than what you hear on their albums.
Final note: Anyone ever heard of a violinist named Midori? She's very
talented. Do you think if I were to hand her an Ibanez she could play like
John Petrucci? What's the purpose of that question? Ask Socrates. But I'll
bet if you took Midori's mind and transferred it to Petrucci's body, you
could hand her a violin and she'd still be able to rip through Paganini's
24 Caprices. (of course it's not possible to transfer minds from body to
body, that's not my point)
Just my thoughts on the capabilities of the human being.
Bafu Vai
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 10:54:59 GMT
From: borlangw <borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: BorlangW -- Bruce?
Message-ID: <9603011054.AA26733@jason.dcs.gla.ac.uk>
> Any word on when Bruce's album will be coming out?
>
> I haven't heard the release date yet...
It was released in the UK on Monday (26th). Don't know about the foreign
release dates though.
Graham B.
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Date: Fri, 01 Mar 1996 06:00:24 EST
From: fitipmol@ibmmail.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Thought
Message-ID: <199603011100.DAA17436@mindcrime.ax.com>
--- Saapunut 03.MAPE 90-4694432 01-03-96 12.54
-> IBMMAIL.INTERNET IBM IMX
Hello.
Has anyone thought of Dream Theater belts? Wouldn't it be
wonderfully inane to have a buckle shaped like the Majesty logo?
Tell me about cheesy....
Mape
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* I'd love to go out with you, but there's important world *
* issues that need worrying about. *
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 13:50:07 +0200 (EET)
From: Karri K Kiviluoma <kkiviluo@snakemail.hut.fi>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Reading this will cost you about .5 mins of your time =)
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.960301134052.14454A@lk-hp-15.hut.fi>
Yeah. Just had to say something ! =)
>
> Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 14:48:43 -0800
> From: Jim Beavens <jbeavens@ichips.intel.com>
> Subject: Mainstream Progressive is an oxymoron.
>
> Anyway, I would like to posit this opinion:
>
> Progressive music by its very definition (whatever that is) is always
> changing, always advancing. So if anybody were to become "copycats"
[From this point on this posit (?) has been severely ripped]>
> See? Simple!
>
> Jim
>
AWWWWWW....Why did ya have to destroy a completely zany thread
by stating the simple truth ! Shame on you !
(Oh, btw. I agree =>
I just figured a GREAT way to get rid of those extra 'jams in
your mailbox (well...for YOU to get rid of...You know I can't...
hrrmmhh...nevermind). Anyways, just skip all non-Bafu posts and
read his. He usually includes about 60% of the previous 'jam
with some entertaining remarks added. FOR FREE!
And can You believe this is not even a critisism?
(And can You believe I actually type You with capital Y ?)
Ahh...Done rolling in the un-moderation =) See ya!
Karri
kkiviluo@snakemail.hut.fi
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 13:59:46 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Malcolm" <maw195@soton.ac.uk>
To: ytsejam@ax.com (Ytsejam)
Subject: Nu Jammer
Message-ID: <199603011359.NAA08986@alder.soton.ac.uk>
Hi!
This is my first post to the jam, the list that's kept me
entertained, outraged, amused and disgusted through the harsh winter
months. It's nice to now you can log on and settle down to a warm
Ytsejam anytime you want.
OK, 2 things:
Can somebody tell me if the Japanese Import version of "Live At The
Marquee" is different to the UK version? [good, DT content, I'm doing
well]
Also, has anyone heard of a band called Believer? They're a kind of
thrash metal band, I think they're German, and they're weird. They
play pretty strange stuff (dissonance, odd timings, etc.), and
their vocalist sounds like a pissed-off mutant frog (pissed-off 'cos
he's a mutant frog, probably). The reason I think Believer are
brilliant is that it reminds me of DT music in that it's complicated,
heavy and different [there, er, DT content - thin ice, thin ice].
I've got this tape of theirs but I haven't a clue what it's called
(it's a copy) or what any of their other albums are called, where I
can get them, etc. The one I have has this trilogy of songs
featuring a string quartet and a female opera singer! Can anybody
enlighten me?
Ta very much,
Malcolm Watson
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 09:17:40 -0500 (EST)
From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Magna Carta/KISS/stuff
Message-ID: <Pine.3.07.9603010935.E20468-b100000@bdmserver>
About DT ending up on Magna Carta, I dont think that will happen. I mean
how many DT fans have a cd by like Magellan? Not many, most of them would
be from this list. I would have never heard of any of the Magna Carta
bands/tributes if it wasn't for this list. DT sells way more cds than any
of the Magna Carta bands.
I know this is off topic, but I have seen 2 posts about it. About the
KISS topic, there is no way Gene and Paul fired Eric Carr. That is a bunch
of bull. They knew he was dying. They didn't want to just end the band,
they had to move on, so they hired Eric Singer. In fact on the song God Gave
Rock n Roll to You Eric Singer plays on the cd, yet for the video Eric Carr
was in it. Also by the tiem Eric Carr got ill with cancer of the heart he
was a full fledged member. Paul Stanley quoted after his death that Eric Carr
was such an important part of KISS and such a great person. RIP
Has anyone gotten that mac DT program to work? I've saved it as source
but Stuffit Expander wont recognize it and unstuff it. Can anyone who has
it put it on the web as a normal link where the file is transferred and
automatically unstuffed by Netscape? Has anyone gotten this to work?
Has Ed Poltzin (sp) gotten it to work since it is on his page?
Still no tapes from al balkewicz.
**** Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com ****
**** "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater ****
**** "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files ****
**** GO CAPITALS! GO BULLETS! GO DAYTON FLYERS! GO TERPS! ****
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Date: 01 Mar 1996 09:03:09 GMT
From: "Steven Johnson" <svjohnson@amoco.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: YTSEJAM digest 1308
Message-ID: <199603011505.AA05228@interlock.amoco.com>
*** Reply to note of 03/01/96 01:32
An interesting note: it seems when everyone discusses Tori Amos, they use
languange like "she's very special" or "intimate warmth." When we speak of DT
it's "they rule", "Portnoy kicks ass", etc. Is it because she's a she? The
ethereal vibes she puts out? I'm not a fan of hers at all. Don't dig her
style, not impressed with her abilities (i've only heard Under the Pink as I
guess that's been her biggest seller via MTV). That may bias what I hear or
the connotations I get when fans discuss her. LATER-
Steve
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e v i t c e p s r e p w e n a t e G
Steve Johnson, Amoco Media Relations -- svjohnson@amoco.com
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