YTSEJAM Digest 1329
Today's Topics:
1) Trade or Sale
by Olaf Bode <100734.3240@compuserve.com>
2) Re: YtseCon...
by Jeff Chew <jc309@columbia.edu>
3) country music
by bishop@cts1.internetwis.com (Matt Palzewicz)
4) Highlander still =)
by Karri K Kiviluoma <kkiviluo@snakemail.hut.fi>
5) Oopsies
by Charone Frankel <96sp211@dvc.edu>
6) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 03/06/96 - 21:01:34" <response@ibmmail.com>
7) Ytse-Con III
by DreamNDay@aol.com
8) YtseCon III - East Coast
by Jeff Chew <jc309@columbia.edu>
9) (U)Mid-ytse-con
by "Steven Johnson" <svjohnson@amoco.com>
10) Your venom is not family here!
by "D_TiCian" <s7700020@singnet.com.sg>
11) Other songs in Erotomania
by YoSammity@aol.com
12) New to Ytsejam
by Jeffrey Cline <jcline@quapaw.astate.edu>
13) Hail to Awake
by Magnus Andreasson <magnusa@tripnet.se>
14) reponses...
by ripzero@ix.netcom.com (RipZero )
15) YtseCon proposal
by ripzero@ix.netcom.com (RipZero )
16) Dust Pan Ghost, Winger, Vai
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
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Date: 06 Mar 96 15:37:53 EST
From: Olaf Bode <100734.3240@compuserve.com>
To: ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Trade or Sale
Message-ID: <960306203752_100734.3240_EHV152-6@CompuServe.COM>
Hi!
the following DT Collectors Items (?) are for sale, but we also can work
out the details for a trade.
DT Interactive - ORIGINAL US Disk - Software for Macintosh PC ,
( AWAKE , 1994 )
autographed card, signed last year 06/29 - by all members ( Derek ) -,
- two CDs - same as Consciously Unreal ( + Bonus Tracks with Charlie )
Live 93 + 89,- Live & Alive / Germany,
Limited Edition -english- Poster / Interview (Neil Elliot) Fanzine, (b/w pics)
Whoever is interested, please mail me, if you need any informatons.
If you want to trade, please send me your Dream Theater - AUDIO- List.
C'YA
Olaf
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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 15:42:54 -0500 (EST)
From: Jeff Chew <jc309@columbia.edu>
To: YtseCon III Staff <ACoSDT@gnn.com>, anthem@virginia.edu,
Subject: Re: YtseCon...
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960306153959.10034D-100000@bonjour.cc.columbia.edu>
On Wed, 6 Mar 1996, Pat Griffin wrote:
> My staff includes me, myself, and I. I pretty much *am* Reality=B2=20
> Design. I have a cousin who may be intereset in this though, I'll talk=
=20
> to him next week on Break. Let me know if there is anything I can do to=
=20
> help out. Also, is there a pic on the Web of the YtseCon I or II shirts,=
=20
> so I have a frame of reference?
Well, I think that three months is enough time right now. We're still in=
=20
the initial stages of planning. Once I get in contact with=20
management/Derek Sherinian/James LABrie, things will start off like some=20
kind of rollar coaster ride, then everything will hopefully fall into place=
.
I'm not really worrying too much right now, so I think that's a good=20
sign. But, I need to find someone to print up the shirts for the YtseCon=
=20
III. Well, that's it for now, TTYL!
Yours,
JEff =3D)
=09<*> Jeff Chew <*> jc309@columbia.edu <*> (212) 853-6952 <*>
=09=09 <*> http://www.columbia.edu/~jc309 <*>
<*> Lifting Shadows : http://www.columbia.edu/~jc309/dreamt.html <*>
"Lifting Shadows Off a Dream once broken, she can turn a drop of=20
water into an ocean" -- John Myung, Dream Theater
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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 15:40:25 -0600
From: bishop@cts1.internetwis.com (Matt Palzewicz)
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: country music
Message-ID: <199603062140.PAA13786@ppp2.internetwis.com>
hey all,
*steps forward*
elliot's not the only one who likes country. :)
mathew
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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 22:58:08 +0200 (EET)
From: Karri K Kiviluoma <kkiviluo@snakemail.hut.fi>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Highlander still =)
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.960306224205.29084A-100000@lk-hp-13.hut.fi>
Yes...It's the dude with the tabs here =)
I'd like to see ANY band do as good a soundtrack as Queen did
on Highlander. I'm talking about the rock scene here, with definite
songs. Of course there are masterpieces as 'The Piano' Soundt
and of course....Tii tii ti dii tuu di tuu tuu di tuu Star Wars =)
(was it march of the empire or somesuch, can't remember =)
Usually nowadays it's just separate pop bands doing some songs
and director struggling to slap them somewhere. Good example
of this is 'Bad boys' with that Diane King song (was it like
5 secs in the background real softly =)
Well anyways the Highlander ST is awesome. The songs are greatr
and fit the movie well. First is 'Princes of the Universe' where
you can catch Brian doing the fastest playing ever (for him I mean =)
and of course 'Who Wants To Live Forever' is awesome. Other songs
are: 'One Year of Love','Gimme the Prize (Kurgan's theme)' a great,
raw piece and 'Don't Lose Your Head'.
Urks...This wasn't supposed to be so long =(. Anyways I'd really like
to see DT do something similar. They're such great musicians that
they'd prolly compose sumtin for that Letterman show coming up
too =)
A brief quiz:
What great song did Queen do for another movie.
(Not a really good movie tho =)
'Don't Use Your Head'
-= Karri.Kiviluoma@hut.fi =-
Email: kkiviluo@snakemail.hut.fi < " Hmm...uhh...lemme think...." >
< - metryingtofigureoutsome >
< thingwitty&funny >
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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 13:01:16 -0800 (PST)
From: Charone Frankel <96sp211@dvc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Oopsies
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960306130048.1330A-100000@viking.dvc.edu>
Did I say minutes? I meant measures :)
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"Where's your sense of humor, man?" -Bart Simpson
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Date: Wed, 06 Mar 1996 16:02:27 EST
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To: ytsejam@ax.com
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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 16:03:01 -0500
From: DreamNDay@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Ytse-Con III
Message-ID: <960306160301_161847750@emout08.mail.aol.com>
To Jeff Chew,
My question is could you please make the Con in late June? I;m sure I'm not
th only jammer still in high school, and I think my last day is june 23 or
something like that. Please think of us too, when you say that the college
prople should be out of school by late May.
later--------------Brian
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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 16:23:54 -0500 (EST)
From: Jeff Chew <jc309@columbia.edu>
To: BafuJam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: YtseCon III - East Coast
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960306161728.15990B-100000@bonjour.cc.columbia.edu>
Dear jammers,
Okay jammers, there are two things I need to mention. The first thing is
that I'm really pondering if this YtseCon should be open to the general
public. This way, there will be sponsers for the convention and there
will be a bigger budget for this event. If this does happen, Dream
Theater will be guarenteed to be there. Also, gives you jammers from
out-of-state a better reason to come out here. The down-side - this will
be advertised and will be open to the general public. That means that
this will be a VERY big event and will most likely be a success. I'll be
able to organize the Dream Theater tribute a lot better and will give
Dream Theater a lot of exposure.
The second thing, I need to know how many of you jammers would come to
the ytseCon III in New Jersey? Please write to me and let me know if you
want to come, plus how many people you're planning to bring. Also, tell
me if it should be a YtseCon III, or a full scale Dream Theater
convention. If I could get a venue for the tribute, it is possible that
some jammers can jam with the members of Dream Theater on stage!
Well, I need feedback, plus I need to start a headcount. The more
important thing for me right now is to find out if this should be
commercialized. So, send me your comments!
Yours,
Jeff =)
<*> Jeff Chew <*> jc309@columbia.edu <*> (212) 853-6952 <*>
<*> http://www.columbia.edu/~jc309 <*>
<*> Lifting Shadows : http://www.columbia.edu/~jc309/dreamt.html <*>
"Lifting Shadows Off a Dream once broken, she can turn a drop of
water into an ocean" -- John Myung, Dream Theater
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Date: 06 Mar 1996 15:09:15 GMT
From: "Steven Johnson" <svjohnson@amoco.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: (U)Mid-ytse-con
Message-ID: <199603062135.AA21786@interlock.amoco.com>
OK..........
BABS!!! There's a rumor you're working on a midwest con, too...PLEASE E-MAIL
ME ASAP!!!!
Jeff Chew!!!! PLEASE E-MAIL me re: your con-III in the east and other details.
I don't care how many cons go on, but we should at least organize into one big
'ole Midwest con. So BABS, write me and lemme kno where you're at!
Ooooooh! This is getting good!
Steve
***************************************************************
"I'll be defending you on the charge of......MURDER ONE!?! Wow!
Even if I lose, I'll be famous!!" - Lionel Hutz, attorney
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 05:40:25 +0800
From: "D_TiCian" <s7700020@singnet.com.sg>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Your venom is not family here!
Message-ID: <199603062136.FAA13962@sunflower.singnet.com.sg>
A Dream Theater Convention huh? DTC, huh?
I am dtc and I am the one! I'm not a regular and I'm not a newbie too, huh
Augie? tt.
So Singaporean ytsejammers besides HisMajesty, when are we gonna meet up?
So who regconises me?
A repitive question?:
Anyone have the cover interpretations for all the DT album covers?
_____________________________________________________________________________________
D_TiCian = D_TC = DTC = dtc = Ha!
s7700020@singnet.com.sg
http://www.singnet.com.sg/~s7700020
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
School inhibits my brain, and drains my youth.
-dtc
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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 16:36:41 -0500
From: YoSammity@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Other songs in Erotomania
Message-ID: <960306163640_161877928@mail02.mail.aol.com>
Besides the Silent Man riff that everyone knows, I've also heard The Mirror,
Voices, and Innocence Faded.... I'll post the time for each of them later if
anyone wants it...
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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 15:43:57 -0600 (CST)
From: Jeffrey Cline <jcline@quapaw.astate.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: New to Ytsejam
Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.91.960306151608.9284A-100000@quapaw.astate.edu>
This is my first time to vist Ytsejam and I must say it's really cool. Like
most of the rest of you I consider myself one of DT's biggest fans. Last
week I caught one of Mike's drum clincs in Memphis, TN and it was awesome. I
was on the first row and got to ask Mike what inspired him in the writing
of ACOS. After the show he signed autographs and I had him sign my Lie
vinyl import single. He asked me where I got it from because he said it
was only released in Europe. I told him how I lucked out and found it at a
record store in Dallas, TX last year. The Lie single also had a copy of
the offical DT fanzine which I also got signed. Mike also signed my
copies of IAW and ACOS. Under his name on ACOS he wrote "Carpe Diem". If
that was'nt enough excitement for one night I also got to see Vince Neil
at the 616 club in Memphis. The show was great, and I got to meet Vince
and his bass player Robbie Crane after the show. They signed autographs
and posed for pictures as well. Next week I'm going to see Iron Maiden
and Tesla. Is that a cool couple of weeks or what. Hopefully with the
continual support of fans like us Hard Rock, Heavy Metal, and Progressive
Rock will continue to stay strong and alive.
JEFF
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Date: Wed, 06 Mar 1996 22:49:17 +0100
From: Magnus Andreasson <magnusa@tripnet.se>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Hail to Awake
Message-ID: <1.5.4b11.32.19960306214917.006817f8@mail.tripnet.se>
Hi everybody!
I was going thru' my ytsejam mail recently, I had about 50 pending, and
read a whole bunch of letter saying IAW is better than Awake. Well, IAW
is a darned good album, no doubt about it, but when you ask me I'd go
for Awake anytime.
Last summer I was cruising in a brand new Saab 900 convertible,(now there's
a babemobile), and I loaded Awake into the CD-player and played Caught in a
web. The car had an excellent radio-system so I played it way to loud.
It was just awesome!
By the way, Afterlife of WDADU has probably the best chorus I have
ever heard.
That's all I have to say.
Regards Magnus
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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 13:58:56 -0800
From: ripzero@ix.netcom.com (RipZero )
To: Ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: reponses...
Message-ID: <199603062158.NAA28945@ix2.ix.netcom.com>
> I watch eMpTyV 20-30 min. a week!
you have a strong stomach my son
> Whatever happened to Headbangers' Ball?
Well they canceled it for that Superf*ck show... as my friend put it
"they canceled it for a smashing pumpkins video" :)
******
>And what about us west coasters? What are we going to do? Twidle our
>thumbs while you bums meet them? Punks : ) If I had two rubber bands
>and a badmiton raquet right now...
oh no, i dont even wanna know...
******
>ALso, someone else asked about the latest Faith No More album. It's
>OK, abut they don't really experiment with as many styles as they did
>on The Real Thing or even Angel Dust. That's my brief opinion...
Lates FNM sucks! thats just an opinion, and not an insult to anyone who
likes it i might add... but I dont know WHAT they were thinking! I
used to totally get into all their stuff... then King for a day came
along... what the hell happened there? TRT really kicked some @$$
though so i'm not ripping on the band themselves, just their latest
output...
*****
> Something else....I try and try to dislike
> alternative....but, hey...I like most of it. What can I
> say? It's not that bad....just reeeeeeeeeeeeally simple.
> :-)
Ben made a really good point here... Steve vai put it really great in
a guitar mag around when ALS came out also... I think alot of
alternative crap really IS stupid though... PresOfThUSofA for
example... what the hell is with them?! You cant really hate them
though because I gotta admit I laughed when my friend told me to turn
MTV for a second, although alternative is also going overboard now...
what happened to talented guitarists?!?!?! Peter Klett is probably the
latest i can think of... Me being a guitar player I like listening to
very guitar driven music, and thats another lag of alternative, not to
mention have any of them lived past 4 albums????
******
this was about ytseconII i think-
>the point is this: there was no band, and I didn't notice.
heres a cool idea- even though i probably wont be there :( :( :( I
think it'd be cool to have a guitar,bass,drums,and mic. set up so if
any of the jammers want to go up and play some tunes they realize they
all know then they could.
>Let's hold 20 YtseCons this summer, and just hang out and have a good
>time.
if it really goes through i'd like to see as many varied locations set
as possible...
*******
>I haven't watched MTV since August, so I don't know what
>they play anymore.
well they dont play anything! i dont even think they should use the
name *music* television... what do singled out and oddities have to do
with music?!
*******
>Come on, we all loved it when Metallica and GnR were on daytime
>MTV.
that statement should look like this:
Come on, we all loved it when Metallica and GnR were on MTV.
*******
>Whoah! I know this dream thread has died off, but I had to tell of
>my dream this morning. John M, John P and Mike P were guests at my
>house, and my Mum made them dinner (I think it was meatloaf). They
>were great, but whenever I tried to get them to sign my Images And
>Words I couldn't find a pen, or we had to go out, etc. They left
>without signing it, of course. Maybe it was the meatloaf?
i had this dream a while ago:
Me Phil and Dimebag from pantera are sitting in my living room. I
think me and dime did something to really piss Phil off cuz he jumped
up ready to kill us, so me and dime bolt for the door. I watch dime
run down the street but its one of those dreams where you move real
slow so i'm trying to run, and i turn and Phil busts out my front door
and does this big growl/scream thing... then i woke up.
what a damn cool dream if i must say so myself :)
******
>It's for the love of music. Never forget your roots, it can save your
>sanity.
were any of us EVER sane here???
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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 14:02:14 -0800
From: ripzero@ix.netcom.com (RipZero )
To: Ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: YtseCon proposal
Message-ID: <199603062202.OAA29563@ix2.ix.netcom.com>
Ok this topic has been flyin' everywhere for a while now... Everyone
has their own personal suggestion of where Ytsecon should be... most
likely their home town... I think i may have the answer... YtseCon
should be held inside a gigantic, top secret, Mechanical MooCow,
located on the fiji island chain. In fact i think we should all just
moove there for good and skrew our lives, and spend the rest of our
time inside a giant cow, right on a deserted tropical island...
then check this out: we wire up the cow with tuna cans and coat
hangers and tap into worldwide radio stations where we take over all of
the airwaves and constantly play DT to the entire world, we send out
people to the concerts, where they'll be recording the whole thing as
we relay it live to the entire world... and yes theres even more that
can be done with a giant MooCow! We can actually go around the world
capturing $h|tty alternative guitarists, and forcing them to watch Jon
Petrucci's instructional video 25 hours a day, with their dope fien
eyes pryed and held open... whats more the fiji island chain consits
of at least 50 islands (i cant remember exactly, its been a while since
i've seen ESII) so if one cow is too crowded theres always room for
more. We can create a whole DT cow city along these islands! Hell we
could even create a whole friggin country! No wait! We turn the cow
into a giant hovering cow, along with many others, to create a whole
city hovering in the air! We can hook up gigantic speakers (cow
spotted of course) and fly around blasting DT for miles and miles...
Eternal champions of the world! This is not just our future- it is OUR
DESTINY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ripzero@ix.netcom.com - or if that dont work:
ripzero@inlink.com - or if that dont work:
just yell at me on the 'jam!
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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 14:04:45 -0800 (PST)
From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Dust Pan Ghost, Winger, Vai
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91j.960306135616.61105D-100000@homer10.u.washington.edu>
> From: Ed Reed <ereed@comp.uark.edu>
> Subject: Liner Notes
>
> DrX -- the mysterious Dust Pan Ghost.
You are NOT the Dust Pan Ghost. That's the only question I forgot to ask
DT at the Xmas shows, but I'm sure You, DrX, aka DEATH, are not it!! ;)
---- > From: ripzero@ix.netcom.com (RipZero ) > Subject: Jam Spam and some other 'am word > > And expect to hear more from me, and if you think you've seen some weird > stuff from Laussade just wait'll i get settled in for the ride ;) Although > I'm afraid nobody can top the bewildered soul that is Bafu...Bewildered? I'm in complete control of my insanity, buddy. It's my sanity that I can't control.
---- > From: al587725@campus.cegs.itesm.mx (MARCELO MARTINELLI) > Subject: STEVE VAI sent me an E-Mail!
You got an e-mail from......WHO???
> Hi Jammers, > I'm thrilled , I just checked my mail and I got a response from a mail I > sent around 3 months ago to Steve Vai.
There is a way to send e-mail to STEVE VAI??? Can you do this from his webpage or what???
---- > From: Baron Sengir <tsbileci@beta.loyno.edu> > Subject: Can O' Worms / Highlander stuff > >>> Poison, Warrant, AND DT in the same sentence? > > At least he didn't say WINGER.
I always laugh when people make fun of Winger. Here you have Kip Winger, a man who writes music all the time, is a very accomplished ballet dancer, and sings and plays bass at the same time. Then there's the drummer, Rod Morgenstein, a phenomenal drummer whose reputation precedes him. Lastly is Reb Beach, one of my influences, and a spectacular guitarist whose ability I think anyone on this list who plays the instrument can attest to (did someone say fluid tapping?).
Yet still Winger gets a bad rap. What's the moral of the story? Maybe that no matter how hard you try, there is simply no "I" in "band?" Never overlook chemistry, never overestimate talent? I guess sometimes you assemble the most talented players and the end product still just doesn't live up to the potential. (for example, "Sex & Religion" by Steve Vai. unbelievable band, equally unbelievable mess) I guess I just think it's strange how a band can get such a bad rap (like Winger) when there is such high admiration its individual members.
> Now, it's BAFU TIME!
What, I'm a cartoon now? Okay, well just be sure to put me right after "Dungeons & Dragons," the coolest cartoon ever to grace Saturday mornings.
> But the second one sucked majorly.
If there were a third next-powerful adjective after "minorly" and "majorly," Highlander II would get it.
> The third one would have been okay if it didn't copy the first. And it > would have been VERY cool if DT had done some of the music.
Yeah, but wasn't Sonny Spoon just so totally evil? And howabout those teeth?
> The actual title is "Who Wants to Live Forever" and you're right about > it kicking some buttocks.
Interesting. Cause you see, Queen did the soundtrack for another movie called "Flash Gordon" back in My Day. There's a line in that movie, "Who wants to live forever?" which I will never forget because that rocket cycle was just 2-Kewl. Anyone know if Queen's song was written specifically for Highlander, or if it was a few years older, old enough to be in FG?
> And DT HAS covered Queen song (or, at least, partially). "Bohemian > Rhapsody" was part of the "Big Medley" at Ronnie Scott's and on ACOS. Blah blah blah. :)
Actually, I always thought the "two more coming" line was about having children. That stuff about "it means Christ's second coming" was in my opinion an Absolut Crock, and we're not talking Country. What, "two more coming" as in a Second Coming and a Third Coming? Screw your head on a bit tighter, rook.
And are there any "screwed over by a GUY" songs out there, or are we all just sweet, perfect angels? (something tells me I just raised the gate on the Debbie-cage, like that scene in the beginning of "Jurassic Park.")
Bafu Vai
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