YTSEJAM Digest 1337
Today's Topics:
1) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 03/08/96 - 05:38:47" <response@ibmmail.com>
2) Erotomania notes (YTSEJAM post) (fwd)
by The Great John Nguyen <nuprin@wichita.fn.net>
3) 'jams...
by Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu>
4) "DT vote" results
by Jeff Perrot <c664915@showme.missouri.edu>
5) New Kev material
by "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
6)
by
7) IRC ....
by "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadz@dns.bluesky.net>
8) Total waste of space
by Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
9) Chopin at guitar clinics
by Andreas Richter <richtera@physnet.uni-hamburg.de>
10) Oh my...
by Tilman Kuendgen <tiku@rz.uni-sb.de>
11) Yngwie Rules?
by "James Wiseman (Mr Who?)" <ma5jw@bath.ac.uk>
12) Mike Portnoy's clinic tour schedule
by auzzy@tequila.entpe.fr (Stephane Auzilleau)
13) Your real cool Pantera dream
by DreamNDay@aol.com
14) Dude, you've got problems!
by DreamNDay@aol.com
15) Type O -
by DreamNDay@aol.com
16) Erotomania riffs
by DreamNDay@aol.com
17) Nope.
by DreamNDay@aol.com
18) Another Shameless Plug
by Andrew Bunk <ABUNK@wpo.it.luc.edu>
19) Yes in Concert (YTSEJAM post) (fwd)
by The Great John Nguyen <nuprin@wichita.fn.net>
20) Winter Rose/ Cynic
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
21) Alternitive...
by clearyce@tuvok.marian.edu (Corey E Cleary)
22) Moo Cow
by borlangw <borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk>
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Date: Fri, 08 Mar 1996 00:39:35 EST
From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 03/08/96 - 05:38:47" <response@ibmmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mail Item Format Warning
Message-ID: <199603080539.VAA09489@mindcrime.ax.com>
The mail item that you sent at 05:39:29 GMT on 08 Mar 1996 has been delivered.
However, it has been necessary to convert this item into a
format that is acceptable to the recipient, FITIPMOL at IBMMAIL.
Information beyond column 79 in the mail item will have been wrapped.
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 23:50:12 -0600 (CST)
From: The Great John Nguyen <nuprin@wichita.fn.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Erotomania notes (YTSEJAM post) (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.91.960307234952.19978B-100000@wichita.fn.net>
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John Nguyen
(aka NUPRIN)
musican, artist, programmer, lover
http://www.feist.com/~nuprin
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"Adesso che ho perso la vista, ci vedo meglio e di piu"
(now that I'm blind, I can see much clearer)
-- CINEMA PARADISIO (film)
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 00:46:46 -0500 (EST)
From: Andy <ytsejam@UDel.Edu>
To: "John T. Nguyen" <nuprin@fn.net>
Subject: Erotomania notes (YTSEJAM post)
How about right before this
3:05 - 3:43 The Silent Man
3:43 - 4:24 Caught In A Web
at 2:38 to 2:55 Innocennce Faded. I always find myself singing "Distant
like brothers" right there. BTW, I know we went through all this
before when the album came out. Anybody remember what we came up with.
Remember, the YTSEJAM Revolution starts with you, the non-poster,
posting. Death to YTSE-Ben, Bafu, BABS, and all those who think the 'Jam
is there's (used only for effect, no flames intended). Post and be heard.
The original -- Andy Miller
With the worst address of any "subscribing" ytsejammer -- ytsejam@Udel.Edu
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 23:54:23 -0600 (CST)
From: Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu>
To: ThE NuGgeTjAm <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: 'jams...
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.960307235333.14985A-100000@indy27.gclab.missouri.edu>
>From: Uncle.Dave@asu.edu
>
>ok, i love dt alot i think about 4 digests a day are enough. is there a
>way for 1 large digest at the end of the day to be sent to the jammers.
Hey, Dave, maybe if you didn't have a 40 line .sig file....
h t t p : / / w w w . m i s s o u r i . e d u / ~ c 6 7 5 3 1 1 /
| Pat Griffin Reality2 Design |
| c675311@showme.missouri.edu c675311@cclabs.missouri.edu |
h t t p : / / w w w . m i s s o u r i . e d u / ~ c 6 7 5 3 1 1 /
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 00:21:58 -0600 (CST)
From: Jeff Perrot <c664915@showme.missouri.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: "DT vote" results
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.960308001502.84088A-100000@gold.missouri.edu>
Well, I've just finished tallying the results for my little poll. I
asked you what your favorite Dream Theater song was. Many of you
responded--thanks. I know myself that it's very hard to pick a favorite
DT song. After all, they're all good. We wouldn't have this list if
only one song was good. Anyway, I received votes for a total of 16
different songs. But here were the top three (drumroll):
1. Learning to Live
2. Metropolis
3. Scarred
Thanks, and keep on jammin',
Jeff (Haus)
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 01:29:14 -0500 (EST)
From: "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: New Kev material
Message-ID: <199603080629.BAA17072@umbc10.umbc.edu>
I haven't been able to read through the 20 or so old Jam in my box so
I don't know if this has been discussed yet.
What does everyone think of the new Kevin demos from Chroma Key?
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"Get this tape to Tori.." Kevin Moore - On The Page
-- ************************************************************************** * Jason Hartman "I am the Killing Hand!" lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu * * * * You're fighting the weight of the world, * * and no one can save you this time. * * Close your eyes - you can find all you need in your mind. * * * * "Take the Time" - Dream Theater * **************************************************************************------------------------------
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 01:24:24 -0500 (EST) From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadz@dns.bluesky.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: IRC .... Message-ID: <199603080624.BAA11944@dns.bluesky.net>
Hey all ...
Here is the new IRC section for the FAQ. IF anyone has anything to add or anything else please contact me.
IRC
Ryan "Skadz" Skadberg (skadz@dreamt.org) has set up an IRC Server just for Dream Theater and ProgMusic known as YtseNet. To get on and chat with all the other YtseJammers, do the following:
Get on to IRC how you normally would.
Once on change your server to:
irc.dreamt.org 2112
This can be done in most cases by typing:
/server irc.dreamt.org 2112
at your IRC Prompt. Once you have done this, join the channel #ytsejam. This can be done by:
/join #ytsejam
with most IRC Clients.
Pat "Gabbo" Griffin adds:
http://www.phlab.missouri.edu/~c675311/mirc.html
I have a modified version of mIRC there with instructions on getting it set up. It's about a 3 step process, and hooks you strait to the DT server. I tested it all out, and I was able to get on the server w/i 30 seconds of getting to the lab.
Skadz
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 02:12:39 -0500 (EST) From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Total waste of space Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960308015549.24717D-100000@tempest.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Revenge for the recent Jam overload....I'll add to the crapfest
Lyrics quiz: Crossword puzzle style 10 letter word, found in WDADU, LaTM, Awake, ACoS, Acoustic Dreams, WDATU, the Majesty demos, and on Subcon, but NOT anywhere on Images and Words....
see, it only wasted a l'il bit of bandwidth partha mukhopadhyay
Shawna: Totally agree....i listen to music for the noise, could care less about the lyric, until they reach Prez's of the USA inanity levels..... psm
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Date: Fri, 08 Mar 1996 09:05:02 EST From: Andreas Richter <richtera@physnet.uni-hamburg.de> To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: richtera@physnet.uni-hamburg.de Subject: Chopin at guitar clinics Message-ID: <0099F056.CC5543E0.2843@physnet.uni-hamburg.de>
Hi, I'm not sure if this was posted before but someone asked for the chopin song John plays at his guitar clinics. It's "Etude No.2, opus 10". He focus this song in his guitar lessons in the "guitarworld-online". This month he started with some practice-stuff to get started with chromatics. He continues with that next month. Maybe in may or june he offers the whole transcription, I think. Look at "http://www.guitarworld.com" for "lessons". They rule !
Bye ANDY
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 10:58:44 +0100 From: Tilman Kuendgen <tiku@rz.uni-sb.de> To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: syoung@primenet.com Subject: Oh my... Message-ID: <199603080958.KAA28887@sbusol.rz.uni-sb.de>
syoung@primenet.com writes:
>To the major MORON who posted this on the Jam (#1278) -- just what the = >FREAK is your problem? Is it that you HOPE they do drugs so you can feel = >justified in doing so yourself? Did you really think anybody would buy = >that load of CRAP? I mean, sure, maybe have "dabbled with the deadly" = >once in a while (although I'd just as soon believe that they haven't), = >but I'd rather hear it from the REAL JP, if you don't mind. Finally, if = >you're going to try and poison DT's image, you could at least refer to a = >CD cover to find out the correct spelling of PETRUCCI!!! (One T, "John") = >And maybe fill us in on the drug habits of KEVIN & DEREK while you're at = >it. Get real.=20
Yes, get real, man! This was a JOKE! Oh, sure, JP is god, and blasphemy isn't allowed...sorry!
> >And to all other 'Jammers -- let's drop the whole stupid drug subject = >altogether, okay? It just isn't important and it's a waste of the time = >we could be spending reading more interesting and RELEVANT posts. = >-Thanx.=20 >
So what are YOUR relevant posts?
You posted about Ozzy, Kotzen, your favorite CD's/Bands... I didn't saw any posting of you that had any serious DT content, which is the aim of this mailing list, if you don't know..."DT and drugs" IS obviously referring to DT, so it's important for this list. It's people like you that make this list more and more inattractive since Ken Bibb doesn't moderate anymore :-(
> >P.S. Again, I raise the plea -- SOMEBODY PLEASE E-ME AND TELL ME HOW I = >CAN GET RID OF ALL OF THIS JUNK APPEARING ON MY POSTS!!! >
Oh, this mailing list isn't a hotline or something. Please ask somewhere else what's wrong with you mail program, ok? This is the Dream Theater mailing list.
Isn't it possible to keep this list interesting without Ken Bibb's moderation?
---------------------------------------------------------------- Tilman Kuendgen --- tiku@rz.uni-sb.de ...half human, half mail... Traders! Check out my music list at: http://stud.uni-sb.de/~tiku
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 10:46:54 +0000 (GMT) From: "James Wiseman (Mr Who?)" <ma5jw@bath.ac.uk> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Yngwie Rules? Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960308103630.10132F-100000@mary.bath.ac.uk>
Hmmm. I know it's been mentioed before, but although Mr Malmsteen is very very talented, doesn't he know it? Have a look on the front of Magnum-opus (in my opinion a pretty dull album). That air of pretentiousness and superiority is pretty self evident to me. His guitar is aloft and the initials "YM" are embossed in a excalibur-style sword. Hasn't he also get a reputation for taking it out on his guitars? I remember a magazine over here branded him "The Silliest Man In Metal" with a picture of him shooting his after throwing it in his swimming pool. Anyway, thats my opinion over,
See U Later
Jimbo The Funky Beer Monster
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 96 12:42:24 GMT From: auzzy@tequila.entpe.fr (Stephane Auzilleau) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Mike Portnoy's clinic tour schedule Message-ID: <199603081254.EAA15541@mindcrime.ax.com>
Hi there,
I have the final schedule of the Mike Portnoy's clinic tour in Europe, information obtained directly from Mike. Here it is:
16/03 and 17/03: Frankfurt, Messe (G) 18/03: Brussels, venue TBA, (B) 19/03: Den Bosch, venue TBA, 21:00 (NL) 20/03: Berlin, Kesselhaus des Kulturbrauerei, 20:00 (G) 21/03: Magdeburg, Aktion Musik, 20:00 (G) 22/03: Ibbenbuthren, Musik Produktiv, 18:30 (G) 23/03: Pforzheim, Roadsatar Eisingen, 18:30 (G) 24/03: Koblenz, Stadthalle (10th anniversary drummer meeting) (G) 25/03: Leverkusen, Uli's Musik, 18:00 (G) 26/03: Karlsruhe, Subway rockrampe, 20:00 (G) 27/03: Munchen, Backstage, 19:30 (G) 28/03: Bermatingen, Dorfgemeischaftshaus, 20:00 (G) 29/03: Firenze, Tenax Club, 20:00 (It) 30/03: Milano, Teatro zona 19, 21:00 (It)
Can anyone from Germany can confirm that Bermatingen is close to Stuutgart? That's all for now, if someone has the complete tour schedule of Mr Petrucci, post it to the jam...
Stephane Auzilleau Your Majesty - French official DT fanzine
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 08:31:51 -0500 From: DreamNDay@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Your real cool Pantera dream Message-ID: <960308083148_163412899@emout08.mail.aol.com>
>up ready to kill us, so me and dime bolt for the door ^^^^^^^^^^^
I believe this is the name of one of the colors of dime's signature Washburn guitar. If I remember right, it is the design with the lightning bolt on it. Anyway, cool dream. When I sleep with my radio on, I usually dreamabout hearing the songs in my dream, like the other day I was dreaming about the whole Neil Peart issue, and I was driving down teh road. Nobody's hero comes on and I pay particular attention to the part where he went to the parties as a straight minority. Anyways, I wake up and my Counterparts disk is playing. Huh. later--------------Brian
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 08:31:04 -0500 From: DreamNDay@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Dude, you've got problems! Message-ID: <960308083103_163412972@emout04.mail.aol.com>
>and forcing them to watch John Petrucci's instructional video 25 hours a day, with their >dope fien eyes pryed and held open...
You mean kinda like in A Clockwork Orange? Then every time they hear teh word "scale" they'll totally freak out! I say we do it! later--------------Brian
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 08:31:05 -0500 From: DreamNDay@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Type O - Message-ID: <960308083104_163412983@emout05.mail.aol.com>
About their quoet of Don't mistake lack of talent for genius, I liked the quote that Pete said when I saw them with Queesryche last July. It went something like this: "Don't be as stupid as Kurt Cobain was. If you're feeling depressed and thinking about killing yourself, be smart and do the right thing-take someone you hate with you." I'd use that as my .sig file, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW TO MAKE ONE!!!!!!!!! later--------------Brian PS I'm looking for that show on bootleg, if anyone has any QR/TON bootlegs from this summer tour, e-mail me.
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 08:31:59 -0500 From: DreamNDay@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Erotomania riffs Message-ID: <960308083159_163413004@emout08.mail.aol.com>
Okay. I bite. Where do you hear Innocense Faded? i can't believe no one has mentioned the most obvious one of all: 4:04 (just after The Silent Man riff: What is it? ITS THE CAUGHT IN A WEB CHORUS! duh :) As to other sings in other songs? How about Wait For Sleep in Learning to Live? later--------------Brian
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 08:31:00 -0500 From: DreamNDay@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Nope. Message-ID: <960308083058_163412995@emout07.mail.aol.com>
>No offense, Brian but isn't there anything else better to do on a Friday night?
Not in ARKVILLE, total population of about 500, and over 45 miles to anywhere near civilization. Really. I hear people talking about how their towns suck because there is nothing to do. Try spending a weekend in the boondocks where I live. You're little town will look like heaven when you go back.
later--------------Brian
PS When was the last time I saw a black artist on MTV unplugged? Must have been Lenny Kravitz.
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Date: Fri, 08 Mar 1996 08:14:52 -0600 From: Andrew Bunk <ABUNK@wpo.it.luc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Another Shameless Plug Message-ID: <s13fec85.036@wpo.it.luc.edu>
Hello, fellow jammers! I know that myself, I am always very interested to find out about new up and coming prog-bands, so I thought maybe there are some more people like me out there. To get to the point, I'm part of a five piece pogressive hard rock band from Chicago called PROFILE. As far as I know, we're one of a handful of prog-bands in the area. (Chicago isn't a very good scene for any other kind of original music besides alternative, these days.) We recorded a 6-song, 43 minute CD self-titled PROFILE. Obviously, like any other hard rock band with keyboards doing more than background work, we're compared to DT. But I can tell you that Rush and ELP (Emerson, Lake & Palmer) are probably a lot more apparent as influences. We had the honor of backing up Kansas when they came to town to support "Freaks Of Nature", which I've got to say is their best work since the late '70's. Anyway, about my CD, I'm selling them for $7 each. Anyone interested in getting copy should e-mail me at:abunk@mail.luc.edu or send me a check or money order for $10 ($7 for the CD, $3 for S&H) payable to Andy Bunk at P.O.Box 388794, Chicago, IL 60638-8794 Thanks for your time! Sincerely,
Andy Bunk
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 10:47:37 -0600 (CST) From: The Great John Nguyen <nuprin@wichita.fn.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Yes in Concert (YTSEJAM post) (fwd) Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.91.960308104710.5981A-100000@wichita.fn.net>
---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 11:15:42 -0500 (EST) From: Andy <ytsejam@UDel.Edu> To: "John T. Nguyen" <nuprin@fn.net> Subject: Yes in Concert (YTSEJAM post)
I am sure there are a couple of Yes fans on this list. And I am also sure most of those Yes fans know the current band line-up of; Jon Anderson, Steve Howe, Chris Squire, Rick Wakeman, and Alan White. But did any of you get to see that set-list of the show they played last week. In one word it was Amazing.
Set list -- Firebird Suite Siberian Khatru Close to the Edge I've Seen All Good People Time and a Word And You and I The Revealing Science of God (all 20 minutes of it) Going for the One Turn of the Century America Onward Awaken Roundabout Starship Trooper
The balls these guys have for not playing any Rabin music, not that they should have, but it's amazing. It's more than obvious they didn't wimp out on the song selection. I can't wait to hear the live album, and see the video. Not to mention when the start the real tour, WOW! FYI, the live album will have 2-4 new tracks, studio, ranging in time from 8-12 minutes.
Long live Yes, and the random ytse-revolution.
--andy
Andrew Miller "maybe it's a part of me you took... ytsejam@Udel.Edu and maybe that fucked me up much more than you'll ever know" --t.r. 1994
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 12:10:41 -0500 (EST) From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com> To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Winter Rose/ Cynic Message-ID: <Pine.3.07.9603081241.A29511-a100000@bdmserver>
I was listening to a Winter Rose boot I have. Someone said that they were a glam band. I dont think so. Glam bands sorta have a punk feel to them. Winter Rose does not. I consider Winter Rose a hard rock band sort of along the lines of Danger Danger, great vocals, and a guitarist who knows more than a few chords. I think that if Winter Rose was around in the early 80's they would have been a success.
I also listend to a Cynic boot I have that was on the other side of Winter Rose. Whats up with these guys? Musically I would sya they have a progressive feel. The distorted vocals take a lot to get used to and I am not sure I care for them.
al balkewicz who? mr ripoff...
**** Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com **** **** "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater **** **** "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files **** **** GO CAPITALS! GO BULLETS! GO DAYTON FLYERS! GO TERPS! ****
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 13:36:45 -0500 From: clearyce@tuvok.marian.edu (Corey E Cleary) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Alternitive... Message-ID: <199603081836.NAA05682@tuvok.marian.edu>
Okay, to all of those "Alternative" music listeners, I think you are full of crap!!! Chill out! THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS ALTERNATIVE MUSIC!!!!!@!@!@!@! It is not a Music Catagory, but rather a lifestyle and a dress. The music still falls into Punk, Hard Rock, Heavy Metal, and various other typs of music. It is not a stand alone MUSIC STYLE!!! The accents of the style come from all other music. IT CAN NOT stand with out other music supporting it. LISTEN CAREFULLY to the "music" and YOU to will be enlightened. Corey E. Cleary
"The shadow I've been hiding in, has fled from me today." -- Dream Theater
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 17:23:49 GMT From: borlangw <borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Moo Cow Message-ID: <9603081723.AA01452@sealion.dcs.gla.ac.uk>
I'm stupid.
I only just realised yesterday, watching LiT, that the "Moo Cow" condom for Kevin Moore was actually referring to the Moo Cow from "Eve" . . .
Sigh.
Graham B. ____________________________________________________________________________ | | | Graham Borland, borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk, http://www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~borlangw |:: |____________________________________________________________________________|:: ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
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