YTSEJAM Digest 1334
Today's Topics:
1) ACOS project
by "Chad L. Cook" <ccook@bbn.com>
2) Mike Portney drumclinic in The Netherlands
by Wilco Barg <WBG@suppcent.ges.getronics.nl>
3) Re: keyboards
by g.obiltschnig@jk.uni-linz.ac.at (Guenter Obiltschnig)
4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1332
by skooc@ix.netcom.com (Scott Cook)
5) "Non-DT Content"
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1327
by skooc@ix.netcom.com (Scott Cook)
7) Re: shadowy figures
by SaVeur <jjens@portal.gmu.edu>
8) flash gordon
by bishop@cts1.internetwis.com (Matt Palzewicz)
9) assorted info
by scheponi@etf6.ctc.com (Scheponik, Kristoffer)
10) Current Status from the Bahr hill-home
by Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com>
11) metal
by Matt Rosin <msr7146@tam2000.tamu.edu>
12) Re: riffs in Erotomania
by ernie@ns.pananet.com (ernie)
13) Faith No More
by DreamNDay@aol.com
14) Die Krupps
by DreamNDay@aol.com
15) theatre/fatez
by DreamNDay@aol.com
16) Grunge? Ha!
by DreamNDay@aol.com
17) Keu
by DreamNDay@aol.com
18) Hitchikers Guide to A Mind Beside Berklee
by ernie@ns.pananet.com (ernie)
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 02:51:21 -0500 (EST)
From: "Chad L. Cook" <ccook@bbn.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: ACOS project
Message-ID: <Pine.3.07.9603070221.A6509-9100000@achilles.BBN.COM>
Could someone PULEEZE send me Marcel's address so that I can send my money
for the ACOS CD? my mail folder got wiped in a system crash :(
Thanks a bunch!
Chad
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Chad L. Cook BBN Systems and Technologies
System Administrator Phone: 617-873-4159 10 Moulton St.
ccook@bbn.com FAX: 617-873-5386 Cambridge, MA 02138
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Date: Thu, 07 Mar 1996 09:02:15 +0100
From: Wilco Barg <WBG@suppcent.ges.getronics.nl>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mike Portney drumclinic in The Netherlands
Message-ID: <s13ea820.015@suppcent.ges.getronics.nl>
On Tuesday 19 March Mike Portney will do a drumclinic at the Willem II in
Den Bosch.
Just though let you know it
Wilco Barg
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 09:49:11 +0100
From: g.obiltschnig@jk.uni-linz.ac.at (Guenter Obiltschnig)
To: The Bafu Vai Appreciation Society <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: keyboards
Message-ID: <v01540b00ad644ee7ba64@[193.171.32.221]>
ernie@ns.pananet.com wrote:
>> Here's a question for you keyboard players... how did Kev do the background
>> synth while plaing piano during the intro/outro of 'Surrounded'...
>> Obviously, I'm talking about when he did it live...
He layered the Piano and String sounds and used a sustain footswitch
(presumably).
Currently playing: Chick Corea Elektric Band: Light Years (I thought it was
about time to get into Jazz...)
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Guenter Obiltschnig Student of Computer Science
University of Linz, Austria
g.obiltschnig@jk.uni-linz.ac.at k3058e1@c210.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 01:04:00 -0800
From: skooc@ix.netcom.com (Scott Cook)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1332
Message-ID: <199603070904.BAA07298@ix13.ix.netcom.com>
>> It was a cool, movie, though. Always interesting to see Sean
Connery in his younger years. HEY- Sean C was in Highlander too!<<
Where? You might be thinking of Max Von Sydow, who played Ming.
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>>Regarding Queen...someone wrote about another Queen song being in a
movie. I believe the song was "One Vision" or "One World"...or
something like that and the movie had alot of jetfighters in it. :)<<
It's called "One Vision". It's from "Iron Eagle" and is also on the
"A Kind Of Magic" disc.
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>When was the last time you saw a black artist on eMpTyV's Unplugged?<
Lenny Kravitz did an Unplugged in 1994 and aired within the last few
months. For us lucky folks that have Muchmusic, we also got to see
Lenny Live in Feb. for :90. Three words: Fab - u - luss!
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>>Karri- Didn't Queen to a song for Flash Gordon (can't remember the
name though)<<
They did a whole album. It's not there best, but it's got a few good
tracks on it.
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>elliot's not the only one who likes country. :)<
niether's Mathew
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>Yet still Winger gets a bad rap.<
If Kip Winger wanted respect he should've gone more for substance
instead of style. When he finally decided to give up on the teenage
girls and play real music, nobody cared (like Cinderella).
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>That's a fun game to play. Think of a band, and try to get to Bill
Bruford in six steps or less.<
Queen: Steve Howe played on Innuendo and Steve was in Yes, so was BB.
Scott Cook
'The darkness creeps up from within
I feel it surrounding me in everything
It's pulling me down to the ground
Where no one can help, so I make no sound'
'I pull up tight to myself, but nothing seems to help
depression is taking it's toll
I feel I'm falling into the Black Hole'
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 01:20:53 -0800 (PST)
From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: "Non-DT Content"
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91j.960307010958.110834A-100000@homer24.u.washington.edu>
This short piece is in response to the recent flood of posts complaining
about how there are too many "outside topics" on this mailing list. It was
sent in a few months ago, but I still think it has relevancy. (and no, I
didn't write it.) Enjoy.
> Date: Thu, 7 Dec 1995 16:15:28 -0800 (PST)
> From: ***************************
> To: ytsejam@arastar.com
> Subject: religion 'n' stuff
>
> Hello all,
>
> I know that some of you will be mad that myself and other people bring
> topics other than DT on the jam. As much as I love DT's music (there one
> of the few bands today that can actually be called musicians) I realize
> that there's more to life that DT. What is the problem with discussing
> topics other than Some band from New York? I know there's lots of other
> college students on this list, and as adults of above average intelligence
> we should talk about a variety of topics amongst ourselves besides the
> music we listen to. That is all.
It don't get much more direct than that, boys and girls.
Bafu Vai
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 01:30:14 -0800
From: skooc@ix.netcom.com (Scott Cook)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1327
Message-ID: <199603070930.BAA01542@ix2.ix.netcom.com>
>>Ha ha ha ha. Macintosh computers are immune to this virus and the
number of viruses available is significantly lower than the number
available for PC's. So I'll be surfin' while you all are worrying :D <<
Ha ha ha ha. It's only a matter of time (DT content) before Macintosh
becomes the equivalent of the 8-track tape and the Betamax.(no Mac v.
PC stuff implied nor wanted - just thought it was funny). :)
Alternative music. From what I can tell, just by virtue of it's
popularity, Alternative is anything but. In the literal sense,
Progressive music is probably the most alternative music there is right
now when you consider the radio play and mtv play it gets.
I was watching VH1 when there was a special by Symbol Guy (Prince)
and it occured to me that no one ever mentions him as a guitar talent.
So the guy's a little wacky; he still happens to be an incredible
talent. I strongly believe that if Jimi Hendrix were alive today this
is the kind of thing he would be doing now. Prince doesn't get much
radio play anymore, but he rocks as much as the next guy. Flame me all
you want, but IMO Prince can match ANYBODY currently playing the guitar
today. Yes that means Vai, Yngwie, and JP. I'm NOT saying he's better
or worse, just that he's right up there though. When you think about
it, Progressive music and Funk really aren't that far apart musically
anyway. Just one person's opinion.
Shields up, Mr. Sulu; prepare for flaming!
Scott Cook
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 05:47:51 -0500 (EST)
From: SaVeur <jjens@portal.gmu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: shadowy figures
Message-ID: <199603071047.FAA15473@reactor.site.gmu.edu>
>Well, you probably couldn't see the joker making shadow-figures on
>Petrucci through the spotlight. He was stroking Petrucci's goatee and
>making shadow-scissors that were cutting through his hair and whatnot.
>Geez, the nerve of some people...
those weren't shadow-scissors...those were butterflies. sheesh...
and yes, there were also shadow-dogs singing along w/ and on James. pay
attention, Beavis.
j o h n j j e n s @ g m u . e d u
e
n
s h t t p : / / w w w . s i t e . g m u . e d u / ~ j j e n s /
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 05:53:00 -0600
From: bishop@cts1.internetwis.com (Matt Palzewicz)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: flash gordon
Message-ID: <199603071153.FAA16291@ppp2.internetwis.com>
hey all,
>Karri- Didn't Queen to a song for Flash Gordon (can't remember the name
>though)
uh, i believe it was called "flash gordon". but then i could be wrong. it's
happened before. actually, quite often. come to think of it, more times then
i care to admit.
mathew
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Date: 07 Mar 96 08:48:34 EST
From: scheponi@etf6.ctc.com (Scheponik, Kristoffer)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: assorted info
Message-ID: <40E93E31018B1B76@-SMF->
Hey jammers,
I've got some tour dates for a mega-kick-ass band.
Overkill
3/27 Poughkeepsie, NY 4/6 Detroit, MI
3/28 Boston, MA 4/11 Wichita, KS
3/29 Old Bridge, NJ 4/12 Cedar Rapids, IA
3/30 Huntington, NY 4/18 Cincinnati, OH
4/1 Syracuse, NY 4/19 Toledo, OH
4/2 Moosic, PA 4/20 Columbus, OH
4/3 Altoona, PA 4/21 Springfield, VA
4/4 Pittsburgh, PA 4/26 Cohoes, NY
4/5 Cleveland, OH
I got these off a pretty cool homepage.
To Steve Borzilleri (I hope I remembered the spelling ok):
Testament already has a song about destroying a city (pouring gasoline
over it and lighting) -- it's called "Apocalyptic City" from their first
LP The Legacy. If you're just getting into Testament, try out The Legacy
and The New Order -- their first 2 albums. Practice What You Preach and
The Ritual are pretty cool, too, but not quite as intense as the first
two (IMO) -- Souls of Black disappointed me a little.
Zack -- while you are recommending DEATH, how about INDIVIDUAL THOUGHT
PATTERNS? That's one of the most intense LPs I've ever heard!!
Symbolic's pretty cool, too, but I think I.T.P. is more intense. BTW, if
anyone has any info. on DEATH touring in the Northeast, please post it or
e-mail me.
Any results on the D.T. favorite song poll? (Apologies if it's been
posted and I missed it). I agree with Ben Lassaude -- THE MIRROR kicks
ass (slightly a little more ass than most all of the other D.T. songs
(which all kick ass in their own way) IMO)!!!
Kris
"A world full of shit coming down
Tribal violence everywhere
Life in the age of terrorism
We spit in your other face"
- Sepultura
GO PENS!!!!!!
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 06:56:41 -0700 (MST)
From: Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Current Status from the Bahr hill-home
Message-ID: <199603071356.GAA03066@bud.indirect.com>
Hi everyone!
There would be an update out today, except that my PC is taking a
nice huge dump on me this week. Worry not for your orders; my hard drive
is fine, it's the motherboard that's screwed. I'm likely to have this
fixed in under a week, at which time it's likely you'll see a CD update.
I'm calling in off a dumb terminal, and this really sucks.
In other news... Antiquities is t-minus just under 3 weeks to
shipping, so sayeth the suppliers. Could be sooner if they get off their
ass and actually do some work at the printshop... I've done my part...
As most of you know Scoobacca (featuring the humble ME on bass)
is playing two huge parties (free) on 3/9/96 and 3/16/96 at the same
large house in Chandler, AZ... e-mail me if you're in the greater Phoenix
area (or will be) and need directions.
Update on Spring Break. I'm going out of town with the band from
3/11/96 to 3/15/96, and in all probability will break my leg skiing. I'll
catch up with the backlog of mail when I get back, but in the meantime,
do not be alarmed by the sudden silence on my end of the line.
Ytsecon vote: Vegas. I'd rather it be Phoenix because I live
there, but Vegas is where all the cheaper plane tickets go to. There's
also ample facilities. There's a reason many conventions are in Vegas. :)
I'm issuing sort of a clarion-call to everyone in the continental
USA who ordered WDATU. With the exception of maybe 15 more packets that I
have to send out, I think I took care of everyone in the first 500.
Please e-mail me if you're still waiting for yours if you live in the US
and I will attempt to remedy the situation. Most international orders
have been sent... I have about a dozen to go. But those can take some
time to arrive, so don't panic yet if you do not have it...
Antiquities and Scenes ordering is going great! The reservations
and paid orders are accumulating at a frightening pace, and there are
still plenty of copies available. (after all, 500 is no small number when
you're counting in ones and twos). If you're interested in these CDs or
want more info, please e-mail me or stop by Jeff Chew's Lifting Shadows
web page.
Take care all!
MTFBWY! Mike Bahr, durnik@indirect.com/mikebahr@dreamt.org
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 08:24:26 -0600 (CST)
From: Matt Rosin <msr7146@tam2000.tamu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: metal
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960307081914.26943C-100000@tam2000.tamu.edu>
to the guy who said metal is nothing but whining and being pissed at the
world:
try listening to DEATH's "symbolic" or MY DYING BRIDE's "the angel and
the dark river", and then we'll see if you talk about how matel is
mindless. both bands have incredible musicianship (my dying bride has a
violinist, not to mention one of the most expressive violinist i've ever
heard) and my dying bride's lyrics read like shakespeare, so do your
research before you make blanket statements like that. i respect that
you claim to "not limit yourself to one type of music". i don't either.
but to immediately start bashing another genre of music right after you
say that is hypocritical at best.
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
Matt Rosin * SURREALITY: ambient-experimental
PO Box 15315 * IMAGESCAPE: ambient-progressive metal
College Station, TX * Matt Rosin: vocals/synths/programming
77841-7315 * http://http.tamu.edu:8000/~msr7146/imagescape
msr7146@tam2000.tamu.edu * email: imagescape@tamu.edu
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 13:12:26 -0400
From: ernie@ns.pananet.com (ernie)
To: ytsejam@ax.com, Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: riffs in Erotomania
Message-ID: <19960307181224.AAA24732@mail.pananet.com>
>
>0:00 - this is the Erotomania riff. I don't recognize it it any other song
>3:05 - Silent Man part
>3:24 - "When there is reason..." Petrucci plays the melody
>
which is followed by the 'instrumental' section from TSM, and right after
comes the melody from the CiaW chorus...which is the followed by the most
difficult solo ever created by man:)
BTW...in which version of ACoS is the neoclassical part that everybody talks
about found? is it on the one in Subconcious?
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|"Better to save the mistery, than surrender to the secret"-JP,'Another Day'|
|"If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice"-NP,'Freewill' |
|"Broken hearts are for assholes"-FZ, 'BHAFA' |
|===========================================================================|
"We're on a mission from Rod. BUUURRRP!!!" {Ernie ernie@mail.pananet.com}
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 10:31:53 -0500
From: DreamNDay@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Faith No More
Message-ID: <960307103152_440370918@emout10.mail.aol.com>
>Found out that Faith No More has a live album. Thats right, its called
>"Live at Brixton Academy" and its from "The Real Thing" tour. Mike
>Patton's vocals aren't all they could be, but the sound is excellent.
YES! I have this album and it kicks ass. I especially love yje unreleased
songs at the end. Now all I need to find is te "Songs To Make Love To" EP.
Speaking of Mike Patton, anyone on the jam into Mr. Bungle? I finally picked
up their first album this weekend along with Pink Floyd's Wish You Were Here.
Definately a good weekend for getting new albums for me too.
later--------------Brian
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 10:30:59 -0500
From: DreamNDay@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Die Krupps
Message-ID: <960307103058_440370940@mail02.mail.aol.com>
>>Currently playing Die Krupps - A Tribute To Metallica
>I saw that once...is it any good?
I ust have missed this sig, whoever it is (looks like Neil Gallop, but I'm
not sure), but if I saw it, I woul've jumped right on it. That album makes me
laugh. The singer sounds like he's constipated, especially in teh "Hold my
breath..." part of One. Its real cool to hear Techno-Metallica songs. Ben if
you want me to, I'll dub it for you. I don't know if you'd want to actually
go out and buy it-I got it on CD for 6 bucks a a record convention. What I
would like to know is has anyone heard the new DK album? I saw Biohazard
makes a guest appearance and that interested me.
later--------------Brian
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 10:31:01 -0500
From: DreamNDay@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: theatre/fatez
Message-ID: <960307103059_440370964@mail06.mail.aol.com>
>I think it was Ben who mentioned how DT was spelled Theatre in the FW -
>Parallels liner notes, wasn't FW spelled Fatez in one of DT's liner notes?
>I think it was I&W.
>
>Maybe since Fates misspelled DT's name, DT in return misspelled FW name.
>
>
Someone out on line before the Malibu show said that this is why it says
Fatez. But then again, he said he heard Perfect Strangers with Bruce
Dickinson on vox on Q-104.3 (HA!)
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 10:31:02 -0500
From: DreamNDay@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Grunge? Ha!
Message-ID: <960307103101_440370988@emout05.mail.aol.com>
>MojoMan: Soundgarden is _extremely_ talented. You really should listen to
>them before slagging. They are about as close to prog as you can get and
>still sound grunge-y.
>
>
I hate the fact that Alice In Chains and Soundgarden are pulled into the
whole "grunge"scene. THEY ARE METAL and very talented. After all, the were
around before Nirvana and whatever were popular, so why are they grunge?
Because they are from Seattle? WTF? That would make Bafu Vai and my beloved
Mariners grunge (gasp!) Actually, there is no such thing as grunge. Its all
eMTyV and commercial radio's catch to make bands popular. BTW, I can't
believe I haven't seen this mentioned yet. Headlining Lollapalooza this year
are.......METALLICA AND SOUNDGARDEN!!!! Yes, bith bands are officia;. I heard
a rumor that Korn would be there too. Definately cool.
later--------------Brian
PS-I'mm not saying that you said that SG was grunge, I'm just saying that
most people do.
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 10:31:53 -0500
From: DreamNDay@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Keu
Message-ID: <960307103152_440371000@emout08.mail.aol.com>
You know, i had a whole reponse written up, and I can see that this guy is
joking. Waht the hell is he trying to say? He loves DT, but he thinks they
shoud go alt. He says DT isn't popular anymore. He thinks we should talk
about other things, but he subscribes to the list I think that from this
point on, anything theis guy says should be ignored, because he isn't even
flame-worthy. And john Arch thought I was a troublemaker!
later--------------Brian
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 13:33:13 -0400
From: ernie@ns.pananet.com (ernie)
To: ytsejam@ax.com, Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Hitchikers Guide to A Mind Beside Berklee
Message-ID: <19960307183233.AAA25197@mail.pananet.com>
>>
>> Actually, it looks like something off the cover of Douglas Adam's
>> _Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy_ (I think).
>
>DING! DING! DING! We have a winnah! Johnny, tell Zach what he won!
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> \|/ ____ \|/ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/
> "@'/ ,. \`@" cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu "@'/ ,. \`@"
> /_| \__/ |_\ d-man@dreamt.org /_| \__/ |_\
> \__U_/ http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/
>
>
You mean it's that green dottie thing? I thought it didn't have any eyes...
>>Exactly. Excluding members Dream Theater, how many of your favorite
>>musicians went to Berklee? I could only think of Branford Marsalis,
>>Will Calhoun, and Steve Vai.
>
>Dont forget Gary Hoey! and also i believe Satch did too - although i
>may be wrong on that...
>
Also, don't forget Chris DeGarmo...
>erotomania is an unhealthy romantic obsession with another individual (I
>can't remember EXACTLY what it said, but that should be close, and I'm too
That makes sense... so then it could taken as if during 'Erotomania' the
person has an unhealthy sexual relationship which then causes him to get
confused ands have doubts(Voices)... and then I still haven't figured out
what TSM is about...anybody know??
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|"Better to save the mistery, than surrender to the secret"-JP,'Another Day'|
|"If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice"-NP,'Freewill' |
|"Broken hearts are for assholes"-FZ, 'BHAFA' |
|===========================================================================|
"We're on a mission from Rod. BUUURRRP!!!" {Ernie ernie@mail.pananet.com}
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