YTSEJAM Digest 1339
Today's Topics:
1) (WWW generated email)
by "Justin M. LaPrade" <Anonymous>
2) Derek homo?
by CPRS92A@prodigy.com (MR JAN-MICHAEL SOUTER)
3) Charlie Dominici
by CPRS92A@prodigy.com (MR JAN-MICHAEL SOUTER)
4) Intro page
by CPRS92A@prodigy.com (MR JAN-MICHAEL SOUTER)
5) Shower vocalist!
by CPRS92A@prodigy.com (MR JAN-MICHAEL SOUTER)
6) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 03/10/96 - 16:50:58" <response@ibmmail.com>
7) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 03/10/96 - 17:14:35" <response@ibmmail.com>
8) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 03/10/96 - 17:23:00" <response@ibmmail.com>
9) WAAAAAAAAAAAH!
by skooc@ix.netcom.com (Scott Cook)
10) no. of 'jams
by Monty Newberry <mjnewb@mo.net>
11) Hoey's X-mas album
by ripzero@ix.netcom.com (RipZero )
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1336
by DreamNDay@aol.com
13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1338
by DreamNDay@aol.com
14) Subconscious cover
by CPRS92A@prodigy.com (MR JAN-MICHAEL SOUTER)
15) Re: metal (No DTC)
by Gilbert Jack Thetgyi <thetgyi@bgnet.bgsu.edu>
16) Re: New Kev material
by Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU>
17) Yes, in moderation
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
18) Awake cover on prophecies page
by dneff@maaco.com (David Neff)
19) .sig wars!
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
20) imports/bootlegs
by bosox1@ix.netcom.com (Craig Francis Moran)
21) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1334
by napkins@clandjop.com (Seth Hatlelid)
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 06:10:28 -0500
From: "Justin M. LaPrade" <Anonymous>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: (WWW generated email)
Message-ID: <199603101110.GAA22600@nermal.catt.ncsu.edu>
PSC 1 Box 2285
Minot AFB, ND 58704
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Date: Sat, 09 Mar 1996 08:03:38 EST
From: CPRS92A@prodigy.com (MR JAN-MICHAEL SOUTER)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Derek homo?
Message-ID: <097.03192527.CPRS92A@prodigy.com>
-- [ From: Jan-Michael Souter * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --
Quoting (brian) DreamNday@aohell.com:
> Edd, I have no problem. I think Derek has a lot of talent. Me and my
friends
> just have this feeling that he's gay. If you watch the Awake in japan
video,
> to me it sounds like when James introduces Derek, that guy in the
crowd is
> shouting "I like men", and hten they put the camera on Derek, he
raises his
> arm, and if you read his lips, it looks like he's saying "I'm a
homo". Just a
> thought.
BAhahahahaahahaaaaa !! ROFL !!
I watched the Japan pay per view when they put the camera on Derek
after
the guy yelled out "I like men". Now I'm no expert at lip reading, but
it looked like to me that Derek said, "Tell Brian he can blow me!"
Anyone else agree ??
<<grin>>
Jan-Michael
p.s. hehe Brian, I'm just kidding :)
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Date: Sat, 09 Mar 1996 08:03:34 EST
From: CPRS92A@prodigy.com (MR JAN-MICHAEL SOUTER)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Charlie Dominici
Message-ID: <097.03192525.CPRS92A@prodigy.com>
-- [ From: Jan-Michael Souter * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --
Quoting kurt@fgallery.com
>Hey..just got my copy of WDADU,finally! After being used to James
LaBrie,when i >listened to CHuckie D..well to be honest i can
understand why he was fired (was >he?,if not correct me please) i
disliked his voice..also being used to Fortune In >Lines and Killing
Hand from the Live At The Marquee Cd..i found it hard to enjoy >them
being sung by chuckie D...so now i cant wait until i get my Dream And
Today >Unite! THE YTSE JAM RULES!! <--- that song is sooo cooool.
Kurt, I know what you mean !! Charlie's voice and his live on-stage
performance
left a LOT to be desired.
I have two videotaped 1989 DT concerts with Charlie D. on vocals and
his
stage performance was not so hot. His voice was terrible. He just
was not
"in tune" with the rest of the band.
One of my favorite moments of that 1989 DT concert was watching a very
young
John Petrucci run across stage to the camera (these two concerts were
taped
by the band) which was filmed ON STAGE, and John playfully picked his
nose
with his middle finger while giving 'the bird'. Hehe He'd never do
that now
which is why that was so cool. Then the camera follows DT backstage
after the
2nd concert and Mike P. frantically asks "anyone got a light? anyone
got a light?"
Jan-Michael
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Date: Sat, 09 Mar 1996 08:03:44 EST
From: CPRS92A@prodigy.com (MR JAN-MICHAEL SOUTER)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Intro page
Message-ID: <097.03192530.CPRS92A@prodigy.com>
-- [ From: Jan-Michael Souter * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --
>Dear jammers,
>
>Hey there! I just created an intro page for Lifting Shadows. It's a
really >really cool logo, let me know what you think!
>
>Yours,
>Jeff =)
>
> <*> Jeff Chew <*> jc309@columbia.edu <*> (212) 853-6952 <*>
> <*> http://www.columbia.edu/~jc309 <*>
> <*> Lifting Shadows : http://www.columbia.edu/~jc309/dreamt.html
<*>
Jeff, it is really a beautiful piece of work !!
It was totally worth it sitting there all FIVE minutes waiting for it
to
display :>
JM
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Date: Sat, 09 Mar 1996 08:03:41 EST
From: CPRS92A@prodigy.com (MR JAN-MICHAEL SOUTER)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Shower vocalist!
Message-ID: <097.03192528.CPRS92A@prodigy.com>
-- [ From: Jan-Michael Souter * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --
Quoting Rickbond:
> I, personally, believe that knowing the correct way to use falsetto,
one could
> make it sound quite a bit like ones "real" voice. No, I'm not a
singer, not
> trained vocally in any way, but I'm one HELL of a shower vocalist,
and over
> the years of scrubbing.....
You and me both, brother !!!!!
As a man I've found ITSALLL CAUUUGHHTTT UPPP WIMMAAAYYYYYYYY !!!!!!!!!!
(glass shower door breaks)
heh
Jan-Michael
p.s. Hey Bafu....I can't compete with your superb wit, but you simply
can not
match my shower singing capabilities ! I'm replying to Ytsejam
#1290.
Geez, maybe in a couple of months I will finally get to your
reply :)
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 11:51:45 EST
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To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mail Item Format Warning
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 12:15:22 EST
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To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mail Item Format Warning
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 12:23:47 EST
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 10:19:10 -0800
From: skooc@ix.netcom.com (Scott Cook)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: WAAAAAAAAAAAH!
Message-ID: <199603101819.KAA00617@ix5.ix.netcom.com>
In a previous jam, Tilman Kuendgen writes:
[posts replied to deleted to conserve bandwidth]
Yes, get real, man! This was a JOKE! Oh, sure, JP is god, and blasphemy
isn't allowed...sorry!
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So what are YOUR relevant posts?
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You posted about Ozzy, Kotzen, your favorite CD's/Bands... I didn't saw
any posting of you that had any serious DT content, which is the aim of
this mailing list, if you don't know..."DT and drugs" IS obviously
referring to DT, so it's important for this list.
It's people like you that make this list more and more inattractive
since Ken Bibb doesn't moderate anymore :-(
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>P.S. Again, I raise the plea -- SOMEBODY PLEASE E-ME AND TELL ME HOW I
=
>CAN GET RID OF ALL OF THIS JUNK APPEARING ON MY POSTS!!!
>
Oh, this mailing list isn't a hotline or something. Please ask
somewhere else what's wrong with you mail program, ok? This is the
Dream Theater mailing list.
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Isn't it possible to keep this list interesting without Ken Bibb's
moderation?
Why don't you practice what you preach. In your sig you wanted people
to check out your webpage. The way I see it, you're wasting bandwidth
for some shameless self promotion.
Scott Cook
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 02:23:44 -0800
From: Monty Newberry <mjnewb@mo.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: no. of 'jams
Message-ID: <3143FF30.1830@mo.net>
Wow. I was just catching up with three jams I received while reading
through another message (not a terribly long one either), and what happened
to be there when I checked my mail right after reading through it, but
another ytsejam. Seems as though the list is being rather active lately.
Cool.
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 10:30:31 -0800
From: ripzero@ix.netcom.com (RipZero )
To: Ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Hoey's X-mas album
Message-ID: <199603101830.KAA18778@ix8.ix.netcom.com>
ok someone posted somethin about not being able to find Hoey's "ho ho
hoey" album before christmas and was wondering if it even came out...
Yes it did, i was able to get a copy several weeks before x-mas... And
i was able to find it in a regular cd shop. So i hope that answers
your question, and good luck findin' it next year...
later
~Rip
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 13:36:31 -0500
From: DreamNDay@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1336
Message-ID: <960310133631_346946732@emout06.mail.aol.com>
>Hey how many of you Jammers think that Innocence Faded sounds like the
>beginning of some cheesy sitcom like '90210' or something, I don't know,
>it's just something that hit me recently.
>
>
>Charlie
>
Dude, that's the first thing I thought of when I heard this song. I thought I
brought this up before, but maybe not.
>
>>Dont forget Gary Hoey! and also i believe Satch did too - although i
>>may be wrong on that...
>
>Hey speaking of Gary Hoey, he was to put out a CD at Christmas time of
>all Christmas songs. Well Christmas came and went and I never saw the
>thing, I kept asking around and no one even knew it was coming out. So my
>question is did it ever come out? I quit looking after Christmas. I
>thought it was a great idea; Christmas songs with a hard rock feel to them.
>
>
>Randy
>
>
I got this album. It kicks ass. Although, I haven't listened to it since
Christmas. BTW, not all of teh songs had a hard rock feel. Some were kinda
light, but the only one I disliked was Jingle Bells cuz I just don't like
country
A Damn Dyer
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 13:36:39 -0500
From: DreamNDay@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1338
Message-ID: <960310133639_346946847@mail02.mail.aol.com>
>You know, if progressive ever became mainstream, it would just be shoved
>into the Alternative category anyway! It would lose its label and become
>thrown in with "Bush" "Pearl Jam" and all those other somewhat talented
>bands.
>I mean, if Hootie is Alternative and U2 is Alternative, what next? Maybe
>Van Halen will be Alternative? Point to ponder...
Well, my local station, called "Pure Rock Alternative" constantly plays VH,
Ozzy, Metallica, P Floyd, Down, occasionally Anthrax, so there you have it.
BTW, once agian, to theperson who posted about Lollapalooza SOUNDGARDEN IS
NOT ALTERNATIVE!
A Damn Dyer
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Date: Sat, 09 Mar 1996 14:32:10 EST
From: CPRS92A@prodigy.com (MR JAN-MICHAEL SOUTER)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Subconscious cover
Message-ID: <097.03212983.CPRS92A@prodigy.com>
-- [ From: Jan-Michael Souter * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --
I was just browsing through my Rush "Counterparts" CD booklet and I
came across
a picture that struck me as familiar. For some reason I reached for my
DT Subconscious CD and found the cover art for Subcon was on the inside
of the
Rush "Counterparts" CD booklet. Pretty wild.
Jan-Michael
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 14:49:18 -0500 (EST)
From: Gilbert Jack Thetgyi <thetgyi@bgnet.bgsu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: metal (No DTC)
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9603101415.A8182-0100000@bgnet2.bgsu.edu>
On Sun, 10 Mar 1996, Matt Rosin wrote:
> to the guy who said metal is nothing but whining and being pissed at the
> world:
That's not what I said. I said, "As far as metal bands, the "I'm angry
at the world so I can act like a retard" punk mentality is exactly what
they're about". I didn't say that was _all_ they were about.
> try listening to DEATH's "symbolic" or MY DYING BRIDE's "the angel and
> the dark river", and then we'll see if you talk about how matel is
> mindless.
I didn't say matel (sic) is mindless.
> both bands have incredible musicianship (my dying bride has a
> violinist, not to mention one of the most expressive violinist i've ever
> heard) and my dying bride's lyrics read like shakespeare, so do your
> research before you make blanket statements like that.
Lyrics that "read like Shakespeare" and lyrics that directly refer to
Shakespeare and Ayn Rand are two different things.
> i respect that you claim to "not limit yourself to one type of
> music". i don't either. but to immediately start bashing another genre
> of music right after you say that is hypocritical at best.
Yet more words are being put in my mouth. I didn't bash metal as a
whole genre. I bashed Megadeth and Pantera. As far as I can remember,
I'm entitled to my opinion, whether you like it or not. Metallica is still
one of my favorite bands. Anthrax was my first concert, and I'm still
into them. I can't believe I remained civilized for this reply. Next
time, Matt, do your own research before putting words in my, or any other
Jammers', mouths.
Chill out,
G. Jack Thetgyi
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G. Jack Thetgyi thetgyi@bgnet.bgsu.edu
"Any movie with wakka-cha-wakka in it is okay by me."
-Tom Servo, Mystery Science Theater 3000 #512: "Mitchell"
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 15:04:53 -0500 (EST)
From: Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: New Kev material
Message-ID: <olEnLZq00iWRA4h1FP@andrew.cmu.edu>
Excerpts from mail.ytsejam: 10-Mar-96 New Kev material by "L. Jason
Hartman"@gl.um
> I haven't been able to read through the 20 or so old Jam in my box so
> I don't know if this has been discussed yet.
>
> What does everyone think of the new Kevin demos from Chroma Key?
Um, did I miss something? Where did you get those?
-Max
Anton Max
Keyboards, Aepithex
MadMax+@cmu.edu
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 15:10:51 -0500 (EST)
From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Yes, in moderation
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9603101504.B19106-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
> From: Tilman Kuendgen <tiku@rz.uni-sb.de>
> Subject: Oh my...
>
> Isn't it possible to keep this list interesting without Ken Bibb's moderation?
Is it possible to keep it interesting with moderation?
----> From: The Great John Nguyen <nuprin@wichita.fn.net> > Subject: Yes in Concert (YTSEJAM post) (fwd) > > I am sure there are a couple of Yes fans on this list. And I am also > sure most of those Yes fans know the current band line-up of; Jon > Anderson, Steve Howe, Chris Squire, Rick Wakeman, and Alan White. But > did any of you get to see that set-list of the show they played last > week. In one word it was Amazing.
LAST WEEK??? Where? Is this the start of a tour? Is there a new album? What did I miss???
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 15:16:49 -0500 From: dneff@maaco.com (David Neff) To: ytsejam@ax.com ('on-line "Ytse-Jammers"') Subject: Awake cover on prophecies page Message-ID: <1996Mar10.150700.1059.3431@smtp.maaco.com>
I was just looking at what's new on Yahoo and a Nostradamus page caught my eye. When I went there, the first thing on the screen was the cover of Awake (sans DT logo)! The URL is http://www.concentric.net/~adachi/prophecy/prophecy.html in case you want to check it out. - Dave Neff/Nerf (dneff@maaco.com)
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 15:25:24 -0500 (EST) From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu> To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: .sig wars! Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9603101504.A19373-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
> From: The Masked Avenger <hed@NorthNet.org> > Subject: The SIG war!!!! > > -- > ****************************************************** > * /\__/\ _)))_ * > * {[[|O O|]]} {((/o\ /o\))} * > * | '' | [] | | | | [] * > * VvvV \-\_/-/ * > * |vv| |VVV| * > * \__/ \VVV/ * > **************************************```************* > ...He plays fast foward just as long as he can, but he won't need a bed, > 'cause he's a Digital Man.. > > BUT HIS SIG's will! > They'll be laid up for weeks after these guys get through with them!!!! :) > :) :) :) :)
Yeah, but can they take THESE GUYS on? :)
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 12:25:50 -0800 From: bosox1@ix.netcom.com (Craig Francis Moran) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: imports/bootlegs Message-ID: <199603102025.MAA06053@ix2.ix.netcom.com>
I was wondering if anyone out there had the names of some of the better DT live recordings (other than Live At The Marquee). I've seen a few, "Mind Control," "Live In Long Island," and "Wake Up" (which I have on VHS). I was hoping someone had the name of a good double disc off of the "Awake" tour. Thanks.
Also, is the single for "Lie" still available. That's the one with "To Live Forever," right?
craig
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 14:32:18 -0600 From: napkins@clandjop.com (Seth Hatlelid) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1334 Message-ID: <v01510100ad68eaec46c1@[204.71.98.46]>
Hi there, Some people have been asking who else went tom Berklee. Melissa Etheridege, The drummer for Living Color, The Drummer and guitar player for Aerosmith, most of Collective Soul (I could be wrong on that one it might be Candlebox) and a whole load of jazz players. But whoever said that Berklee is easy to get into was right. I went up there to audition (for electric bass). It was extremely easy, simple scales, diatonic chord relationships, key signatuires, sight reading, some ear training, and a prepared peice ot two. I got accepted, but I'm not going to go there. Gonna major in psychology instead. There were some fantastic players that I met up there, but there were a lot of people who couldn't play MUSIC to save their lives. As the man in the music store acrss the street said "ther's a whole lot of wanking going on in there!"
Just go home and practiice!
Cheers
napkins@clandjop.com Seth Hatlelid
"Diet Mountain Dew is the biggest waste of space on the planet-no sugar-none of that legendary caffeine, and it tastes like a urine sample!"
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