YTSEJAM Digest 1341
Today's Topics:
1) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 03/11/96 - 01:41:02" <response@ibmmail.com>
2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1334
by ALVAREZ1@AppleLink.Apple.COM (Alvarez, Paul)
3) BIRCHHILL SHOW (ytsejam@ax.com post) (fwd)
by John Scott Korenko <jkorenko@UDel.Edu>
4) IRC (ytsejam@ax.com post) (fwd)
by John Scott Korenko <jkorenko@UDel.Edu>
5) Mas Misc. Miasma
by Gilbert Jack Thetgyi <thetgyi@bgnet.bgsu.edu>
6) Explanations and Stuff
by "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
7) Fried Chicken, Mirror, Rod
by ernie@ns.pananet.com (ernie)
8) .SIG WAR-Battle of YtseJam Isle!
by The Masked Avenger <hed@NorthNet.org>
9) YtseCon # 1 dub
by Jeff Chew <jc309@columbia.edu>
10) Re: I had a good radio show today...
by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
11) .SIG WAR-Battle of YtseJam Isle!
by KTYA28B@prodigy.com (MS DEBBIE M VESTAL)
12) Re: keyboards,alternative,Spanish Rock
by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
13) Let's Try This Again
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
14) Subconscious CD info
by Andrew Bunk <ABUNK@wpo.it.luc.edu>
15) INNOCENCE FADED / WATCHES / ACOS PRODUCTION
by esb01@students.stir.ac.uk (E. Ballinger)
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 20:41:49 EST
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Date: 11 Mar 96 01:33 GMT
From: ALVAREZ1@AppleLink.Apple.COM (Alvarez, Paul)
To: YTSEJAM@AX.COM
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1334
Message-ID: <826508858.1521749@AppleLink.Apple.COM>
Scott, Scott, Scott,
See my comments below:
>Ha ha ha ha. It's only a matter of time (DT content) before Macintosh
>becomes the equivalent of the 8-track tape and the Betamax.(no Mac v.
>PC stuff implied nor wanted - just thought it was funny). :)
Sorry, can't help myself. The Mac will NOT go the way of the 8-track or
Betamax. It is clearly superior technology and I believe the best metaphor for
this is Prog music vs. Alternative. We will survive and eventually have a more
significant position in the market.
>Alternative music. From what I can tell, just by virtue of it's
>popularity, Alternative is anything but. In the literal sense,
>Progressive music is probably the most alternative music there is right
>now when you consider the radio play and mtv play it gets.
I agree, Alternative is actually mainstream music (see my note above) while
Prog is actually alternative
>Shields up, Mr. Sulu; prepare for flaming!
No flames here, only a phaser on stun!
Regards,
Paul (the guy at Apple that you know)
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 21:03:47 -0500 (EST)
From: John Scott Korenko <jkorenko@UDel.Edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: BIRCHHILL SHOW (ytsejam@ax.com post) (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960310210332.3537A-100000@copland.udel.edu>
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 21:00:28 -0500 (EST)
From: Andy <ytsejam@copland.udel.edu>
To: John Scott Korenko <jkorenko@copland.udel.edu>
Subject: BIRCHHILL SHOW (ytsejam@ax.com post)
Hey can I ask a huge favor?
Can anyone tape me the Birchhill Show. I was there in the front with
everyone else and It rocked, and I want something to remember it. Thanks.
Respond to the below address.
--andy
Andrew Miller "maybe it's a part of me you took...
ytsejam@Udel.Edu and maybe that fucked me up much more
than you'll ever know" --t.r. 1994
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 21:04:02 -0500 (EST)
From: John Scott Korenko <jkorenko@UDel.Edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: IRC (ytsejam@ax.com post) (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960310210352.3537B-100000@copland.udel.edu>
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 21:02:39 -0500 (EST)
From: Andy <ytsejam@copland.udel.edu>
To: John Scott Korenko <jkorenko@copland.udel.edu>
Subject: IRC (ytsejam@ax.com post)
Can someone please give me info on the irc ytsejam chat. Respond to the
below address. Remember the random ytse-revolution.
--andy
Andrew Miller "maybe it's a part of me you took...
ytsejam@Udel.Edu and maybe that fucked me up much more
than you'll ever know" --t.r. 1994
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 23:24:47 -0500 (EST)
From: Gilbert Jack Thetgyi <thetgyi@bgnet.bgsu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mas Misc. Miasma
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9603101844.A18640-0100000@bgnet2.bgsu.edu>
Ben (Oh-Be-Won) Laussade said:
>Whoa....somebody needs a new spell checker. "Anil"? Sounds like headache
>medicine. And trust me.....I know aaaaaaaallllll about anuses. :-)
Anil...for your nighttime aches and pains. And try new Extra Strength
Anil for congestion and insomnia.
>Anyone who likes those bands should go out and buy Death's _Symbolic_.
>They are better musicians than the above 3 (don't slag me, 'tallica
>is my 3rd favorite band). I think they're doing what Metallica should've
>done after the Black album (if that were possible for them).
Huh? What Metallica "should've done after the Black album"? Correct
me if I'm wrong, but Live Sh*t: Binge & Purge was a live album. So you've
heard the new album? How is it?
>> Mike Varney is still the man. :)
>I would buy just about anything with his name on it.
Even a Blind Melon CD?
>>and Pantera is a bunch of dumb wankers.
>?!?!?!?!?!? What?! I cant believe that man! What stuff have you
>heard by pantera? At least to them the justice of taking a listen to
>"Cemetary Gates" or "Hollow"...
I've heard "Cemetary Gates", "Walk", "This Love", "5 Minutes Alone", "I'm
Broken", "Planet Caravan", and "The Badge". Sorry, I still don't like them.
>I was watching VH1 when there was a special by Symbol Guy (Prince)
>and it occured to me that no one ever mentions him as a guitar talent.
>Flame me all you want, but IMO Prince can match ANYBODY currently
>playing the guitar today. Yes that means Vai, Yngwie, and JP. I'm NOT
>saying he's better or worse, just that he's right up there though.
I saw parts of that special also. Those guys jammed with a capital "J"!
I agree with Scott about Symbol Guy's guitar abilities, this guy is
definitely up there.
>I hate the fact that Alice In Chains and Soundgarden are pulled into the
>whole "grunge"scene. THEY ARE METAL and very talented.
Funny, when Soundgarden won Best Heavy Metal/Hard Rock Video on eMpTyV's
awards, I think Chris Cornell said something to the effect of, "This
isn't heavy metal". Of course, the video was for "Black Hole Sun", but I
don't think they consider themselves heavy metal. Kim Thayil once
said, "Rock n Roll's a dumb medium, but it's fun as hell. Intellectually,
it's pretentious at best. Aesthetically, it's significantly lacking".
>if you ever really want to give doug a last chance listen, pick up a living
>colour import called "dread." it is amazing. about 13-14 live tracks, 4
>unplugged, and 1 (or was it 2? i left that cd at home) new studio songs (one
>a prince cover). it is great stuff going on there.
I'll second that motion, Koba the Funky Master! Dread is one of my
favorite imports. The 2 studio tracks are Symbol Guy's "17 Days" and
LC's "TV News". Do you know what the Japanese liner notes say?
>Hey how many of you Jammers think that Innocence Faded sounds like the
>beginning of some cheesy sitcom like '90210' or something, I don't know,
>it's just something that hit me recently.
I think "Scarred" sounds like an intro to an Aaron Spelling show.
>It went something like this: "Don't be as stupid as Kurt Cobain was. If
>you're feeling depressed and thinking about killing yourself, be smart
>and do the right thing-take someone you hate with you."
At the Toledo show in April, the lead singer started playing the
bass line intro to "Come As You Are", abruptly stopped, and then said in
his deep voice, "The benefits of suicide".
>THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS ALTERNATIVE MUSIC!!!!!@!@!@!@! It is not a
>Music Catagory, but rather a lifestyle and a dress. LISTEN CAREFULLY to
>the "music" and YOU to will be enlightened.
I'll respect your opinion, but IMO there will always be "alternative
music" as long as there is popular music. Metallica's Kirk Hammett said
that now metal is alternative. Here are the last 5 albums I have
listened to in order: Awake, Matthew Sweet's 100% Fun, Metallica's
Justice album, ACOS, and Seal's first album. What's this prove?
Nothing, I guess. On with the mindless rambling...
>The show will be mostly on Dream Theater!! He will dub clips from my DT
>Live in Tokyo video into the show...
Isn't that illegal?
>Just picked up the Silent Man single at Best Buy in Des Moines, Iowa of all
>places for $10.
Is the Japanese LATM available at Best Buy? Every time I'm there, all
they have is the other version with "Surrounded".
>How about at the con when we jam with DT, we take a half hour of our
>time out and have everyone who can play any indtrument they have with
>them get up on stage and have a mega Ytse-Rendition of ACOS!
Whoa, DT's been confirmed at the con? Be careful before making such
incredible (but possible) statements.
>Some people have been asking who else went tom Berklee. Melissa
>Etheridege, The drummer for Living Color, The Drummer and guitar player for
>Aerosmith, most of Collective Soul (I could be wrong on that one it might
>be Candlebox) and a whole load of jazz players.
I've began this thread by mentioning Calhoun, and Melissa Etheridge did
go to Berklee. Other people have mentioned Gary Hoey, Chris DeGarmo, and
Joe Satriani. I couldn't find anything about Hoey, nothing on DeGarmo and
Berklee, and I know Satch didn't go there. To my recollection, DeGarmo
was in Ryche after high school and has recorded albums (and an EP)
since. I highly doubt members of Aerosmith went there, although they
could be honorary degree holders. I highly doubt Candlebox and Collective
Soul also, but it could be possible.
>Finally, African-American artists on Unplugged: I believe someone asked whan
>was the last time you saw that, and someone else responded Lenny Kravitz
>about a year ago. A YEAR AGO!!! With all of the black artists they play
>videos of? I'm sure BoysIIMen must've been on..LLCoolJ...Arrested
>Development. But what a lack of representation considering how many
>African-American artists show up otherwise....I mean, Tony Bennett? What
>a joke of a vehicle!(DAMN, Idalis is FOOOOIIIIIIIIINE!!!). I only catch
>the MTV once in a while, but I'm sure this argument is pretty close to
>correct.
I brought up this thread also. Steven Johnson deciphered my Tech Specs
correctly! Lenny Kravitz, Boyz II Men, LL, and (the now defunct)
Arrested Development have all been on Unplugged along with Mariah
Carey. My point was that look at these handful of artists compared to
their white peers: Chris Isaak, Kiss, Live, Hole, REM, Soul Asylum, Bob
Dylan, Neil Young, Eric Clapton, Rod Stewart, the Cranberries, 10,000
Maniacs, Pearl Jam, Page/Plant, Nirvana, STP, Aerosmith, and the list
goes on and on. Don't get me wrong, I like some of these groups (QR was
on once), but there is obviously a lack of representation.
Finally, a shot out to Neil Gallop for the correspondence. Death (or
weird dreams) to all wankers!
Soundcerely,
G. Jack Thetgyi
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G. Jack Thetgyi thetgyi@bgnet.bgsu.edu
"Any movie with wakka-cha-wakka in it is okay by me."
-Tom Servo, Mystery Science Theater 3000 #512: "Mitchell"
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 00:25:14 -0500 (EST)
From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Explanations and Stuff
Message-ID: <199603110525.AAA02101@wicked.stigmata.org>
Hey all ....
OK, now that you all have read the 1000 jams that showed up in
you mailboxes today, lemme explain. Somehow (i don't know how, so
don't ask) a permission got fucked up (the CDA has been suspended, I'm
allowed to say that) and basically the listprocessor couldn't process
any mail. I found one problem and Ken found another and since I don't
have root access on the system, I couldn't fix em, but Ken did this
morning and its all fixed now. Thanks again, Ken.
Just so you all know, I have been extremely busy lately, just
took a second job which is gonna become my first (well, kinda already
is) so I am working alot of hours a week, so if you send me mail,
it may take a few days to get a reply. Also, Ken is extremely busy
himself and is try to catch up with both work and school, so there
will be a Metropolis list sometime, just not right this minute.
Speaking of Metropolis, Ken has been having some problems
with the people who serve his dns, but most of it is fixed, but there
may still be a few glitches of service, just resend the message later
if you have a problem.
Another reminder about the lists:
ytsejam@ax.com is the mailing list address
ytsejam-request@ax.com is the mailing request address
metropolis@ARASTAR.com is the Metropolis address
metropolis-request@ARASTAR.com is the Metropolis request address
As for content. Hey, I love hearing about other bands and
other discussion besides DT. There is little to no DTC on IRC
and its still fun as hell. You should come visit some time. Just
mail me if you need some help getting on.
OK, i think that's all from me for now. Oh, and someone,
(I have been reading these pretty quickly today) said that you
people at Universities had it made for email. How about us people
who work at two Internet Service Providers??? ;)
Laterz
Skadz
-- +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+ | Ryan P Skadberg skadz@bluesky.net | | System Administrator / Web Developer Blue Sky, Inc. | | http://www.bluesky.net/skadz/ http://www.dreamt.org/ | +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+ | "'Seize the Day', I heard him say, Life will not always be this way" | +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+------------------------------
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 03:31:54 -0400 From: ernie@ns.pananet.com (ernie) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Fried Chicken, Mirror, Rod Message-ID: <19960311083148.AAA28020@mail.pananet.com>
>closely instae dof hearing one vision like the casual observer will yo >ucan hear freddy mercury say FRIED CHICKEN! I'm serious go back and
That's true! I noticed it in the Freddie Tribute video... but I thought it was a joke and it wasn't the real song because they just showed the end...
>I've been thinking about the Mirror(by DT). I think I've found the story. >Set me straight if I'm wrong, but I think it is similar to Eyes of a >Stranger(Queensryche) only in the fact that it involves taking a good look >at yourself to see who you really are. Beside the fact that you find that >you are just as your friends that you may have judged. One thing I must as >is, who does he refer to in this line: > >Racing the clock to please everyone, all but the one that matters the most. > >Is the reference to God, or himself? Please shed some light on this if you can.
I belive that the whole song is referring to a relationship w/ a girl... first he blames her for everything, and then he 'looks in the mirror' and realizes that he's part of the problem as well...
>> |===========================================================================| >> "We're on a mission from Rod. BUUURRRP!!!" {Ernie ernie@mail.pananet.com} >> ============================================================================= > > > -"Hello, me names Rodney. I'm imensely strong!"
The third, in the ever growing list of owners of the Wasted Years single:)
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------| |"Better to save the mistery, than surrender to the secret"-JP,'Another Day'| |"If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice"-NP,'Freewill' | |"Broken hearts are for assholes"-FZ, 'BHAFA' | |===========================================================================| "We're on a mission from Rod. BUUURRRP!!!" {Ernie ernie@mail.pananet.com} =============================================================================
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 00:06:51 -0800 From: The Masked Avenger <hed@NorthNet.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: .SIG WAR-Battle of YtseJam Isle! Message-ID: <3143DF1B.5DEC@northnet.org>
Ahhh! A blow to the side! Beavis and Butthead!! A Viking Marauder!! But STILL, No match for my latest weapon!!....
// \\ // ****** \\ ||++**====**++|| ||++********++|| \\ ****** // \\ // THIS NIFTY TIE FIGHTER! Which is carrying...
* ....This piece of ANTI-MATTER in it's bomb-bay! One wrong move, and I'll shut down the containment field!! Instant destructomania! All opposing .SIG fleets will perish in the face of my wrath!! HA HA HA!! YOU GUYS HAVE NO DEFENSE!! :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 01:18:28 -0500 (EST) From: Jeff Chew <jc309@columbia.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: YtseCon # 1 dub Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960311011325.29005B-100000@konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu>
Dear jammers,
Hi there! I read the post about the YtseCon #1 dub, and unfortunately I know him personally. He's my ex-friend, and he was the only one at the con with a video camera. I am not in speaking terms with him at all, so I can't really do anything about it. I don't know what else to tell you, but he was also the one who interviewed Mike P at the con, but look how that turned out. In a way, it was my fault to bring him to the convention, but I thought that he was reliable at the time, boy was I wrong! I don't know what to do though, but I'll try to get a copy of the con through someone else...that's the best I can do.
BTW, I think he hasn't made any dubs for anyone before, but I could be mistaken. I mean, I don't even have a dub, and we went to HS together!! Anyone on the jam have a dub?
Yours, Jeff =)
<*> Jeff Chew <*> jc309@columbia.edu <*> (212) 853-6952 <*> <*> http://www.columbia.edu/~jc309 <*> <*> Lifting Shadows : http://www.columbia.edu/~jc309/dreamt.html <*>
"Lifting Shadows Off a Dream once broken, she can turn a drop of water into an ocean" -- John Myung, Dream Theater
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 96 1:51:21 EST From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: I had a good radio show today... Message-ID: <9603110651.AA03444@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
TO the guy from Madison, NJ. I work at an 88.9 out of West Long Branch, NJ. I do a prog rock show on Saturdays from noon to 3:00. I get requests as well, not as often as I'd like, but I get requests for lots of bands, bands I never even heard of like PFM and stuff like that. I had a girl request a Yes song, and I don't mean Owner of a Lonely Heart, more like the Ancient Giatns under the Sun or something like that. For those who don't know, the song is 22 minutes of total chaos. It's great. From an album called Tales from Topographic Oceans. If you decide to buy it, listen to it in chunks. Don't try to digest the whole album, because you may need brain surgery afterwords.
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 02:28:53 EST From: KTYA28B@prodigy.com (MS DEBBIE M VESTAL) To: Ytsejam@ax.com Subject: .SIG WAR-Battle of YtseJam Isle! Message-ID: <096.03264438.KTYA28B@prodigy.com>
>Ahhh! A blow to the side! Beavis and Butthead!! A Viking Marauder!! But >STILL, No match for my latest weapon!!.... > // \\ > // ****** \\ > ||++**====**++|| > ||++********++|| > \\ ****** // > \\ // > THIS NIFTY TIE FIGHTER!
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~IN GODS WE TRUST......................................... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ALL OTHERS PAY CASH...................... -STEVEN BRUST
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 96 2:39:58 EST From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: keyboards,alternative,Spanish Rock Message-ID: <9603110739.AA06676@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
how did Kevin do the synth/.piano parts in surrounded live? My guess is that he layered a piano sound with a synth sound. Having the combined sound made the song sound a lot like the Cd. Of course, I like that choir sound on the CD, but I think Kevin does a good job of playing the song live. Keyboard payers sometimes overdo it in the studio, and some do better at reproducing their own stuff than others. Now, if only Tonyt Kay could do his own stuff live, (Wait, we don't have to worry about that anymore, do we?>)
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 02:26:10 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu> To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Let's Try This Again Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91j.960311022540.15846B-100000@homer26.u.washington.edu>
Mikko Kalermo please e-mail me.
Bafu Vai
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 08:10:41 -0600 From: Andrew Bunk <ABUNK@wpo.it.luc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Subconscious CD info Message-ID: <s143e019.073@wpo.it.luc.edu>
Hi, I'm relatively new to this, and Id really like to know what is on Mike Bahr's "Subconscious" CD that's making it so in demand. Can someone please e-mail me and let me know? Thanks!
Andy abunk@mail.luc.edu
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 15:39:14 +0000 From: esb01@students.stir.ac.uk (E. Ballinger) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: INNOCENCE FADED / WATCHES / ACOS PRODUCTION Message-ID: <v01520d07ad69d17edf9a@[139.153.41.139]>
Charlie wrote:
>Hey how many of you Jammers think that Innocence Faded sounds like the >beginning of some cheesy sitcom like '90210' or something, I don't know, >it's just something that hit me recently.
hehe - it is a bit cheesy really! it's NOT one of the best songs off Awake. Prog rock in general does have a tendency to get a bit cheesy though. (IMO - Flame away!)
Todd S wrote:
>I am getting some other ytsejamers together to >go in on a bunch of Dream Theater Watches.
What next? Boxer shorts, Bed covers, Novelty tooth-brush holders? :-))
Orendil wrote:
>In my opinion, ACOS >sounds like a demo tape. The drums seemed to be miked poorly (annoying >ring in the snare), and the distortion when James sings loudly got on >my nerves as well. > Wasn't ACOS produced by the same guy who did Images and Words? What >happened?
Well IMO I think the drums on ACOS sound great!. I think the snare ring is intentional, and not annoying. The piccolo is meant to sound 'natural' and 'open'.I personally have a 14" x 6" snare which I tune real high to get a nice crack from it, but I use no dampening or muffleing to stop the ring cuz I like the sound. I feel that tuning the snare like that makes it stand out more over the rest of the instruments as opposed to tuning low and tying to get a more conventional sound such as the snare sound in I&W. I personally feel that I&W was OVERproduced if you see what I mean. It sounded TOO polished. I have borrowed TSM single from a friend recently and it contains a demo of Take The Time, which in my opinion sounds better than the album version, because although the snare still has a trigger, the rest of the drums (and instruments for that matter) have a higher EQ and are a lot clearer.
Oh well, time to go do some real work! Oh and to those I spoke to on IRC on Fri night, (JHSrocker?) I had a great time at the pub! - See you this friday!
Cheers... Edd. __________ ___ http://forth.stir.ac.uk/~esb01 ______/ __ /\_________/ /\______________________________________ / __ __ /_ / // __ __ __/__ __ __ __ __ _ __ __ /\ / /_//_ / // // /_ / / // //_//\ / /_ /_ / // /_// / //_/ / / / /_ __//_//_// @ __/ / /_//_//_ / // __/. __/ / // . / //_ . /_// \ / / /_____________________________________________________________________/ / edd \_____________________________________________________________________\/ 1996
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