YTSEJAM Digest 1343
Today's Topics:
1) European workshops update
by sw0101@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de (Steffen Barabasch)
2) Hehehehe...
by Brian Wherry <bwherry@acs.bu.edu>
3) Joe Satriani Show
by Dave Fernquist <103362.445@compuserve.com>
4) YTSEJAM digest 1341
by "Steven Johnson" <svjohnson@amoco.com>
5) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 03/11/96 - 21:55:30" <response@ibmmail.com>
6) YTSEJAM digest 1341
by "Steven Johnson" <svjohnson@amoco.com>
7) No more
by e1557@risc.usfq.edu.ec
8) Dream Theater Dreams of Dream Theatering Drab
by Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1342
by "Ytse' Jim" <jlutz@hartford.edu>
10) asdf
by WhiteKP@aol.com
11) Re: No more
by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
12) Metallica/Death, Black Pumpkin, Triumph, Blind Guardian, NDTC!
by KWMadden@usa.pipeline.com (Kevin Madden)
13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1341
by KTYA28B@prodigy.com (MS DEBBIE M VESTAL)
14) clarification for Compilation CD
by STEVE <STEVE@kandu.com>
15) Attention German Jammers
by GHSRocker@aol.com
16) Need that Erotomania post....
by Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
17) Korn
by swanson@henge.com (Sheila Swanson)
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 22:29:45 +0100 (MEZ)
From: sw0101@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de (Steffen Barabasch)
To: metropolis@arastar.com
Cc: ytsejam@ax.com (Ytsejam - the Dream Theater mailing list)
Subject: European workshops update
Message-ID: <9603112129.AA52020@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de>
Hello!
Here's an update of the workshop dates list. The dates of the drum workshops
are from Mike himself (thanks, Stephane), so these should be pretty safe.
John's dates are from everywhere, so no guarantee. If someone knows better,
tell me!
John Petrucci
03/16 and
03/17, Musikmesse, Frankfurt, G, (with Mike)
03/18, maybe Brussels with Mike?
03/19, venue Willem II or TBA (?), Den Bosch, NL, 21:00 (with Mike?)
03/20, Musikproduktiv Six, Four & More, Ibbenbueren, G
03/21, Musik Aktiv, Paderborn, G
03/22, Musikfachgeschaeft Landry, Saarbruecken, G
03/23, Roadstar Music Dreamland, Eisingen, Pforzheim, G, 18:30? (with Mike?)
03/24, Uli's Musik, Leverkusen, G, 16:00, DM 10
03/25, Session Musik, Walldorf, G
03/26, Purple Guitars, Kulmbach, G
03/27, Guitar-Shop, Berlin, G
03/28, Musikhaus Keller, Kiel, G
Mike Portnoy
03/16 and
03/17, Musikmesse, Frankfurt, G, (with John)
03/18, venue TBA, Brussels, B
03/19, venue Willem II or TBA (?), Den Bosch, NL, 21:00 (with John?)
03/20, Kesselhaus der Kulturbrauerei, Berlin, G, 20:00
03/21, Aktion Musik, Magdeburg, G, 20:00
03/22, Musikproduktiv Six, Four & More, Ibbenbueren, G, 18:30
03/23, Roadstar Music Dreamland, Eisingen, Pforzheim, G, 18:30 (with John?)
03/24, Stadthalle, Koblenz, G (10th anniversary drummer meeting)
03/25, Uli's Musik, Leverkusen, G, 18:00, DM 10
03/26, Subway Rockrampe, Karlsruhe, 20:00
03/27, Backstage, Muenchen, G, 19:30
03/28, Dorfgemeinschaftshaus, Bermatingen, G, 20:00
03/29, Tenax Club, Firenze, I, 20:00
03/30, Teatro zona 19, Milano, I, 21:00
Later,
Steffen
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 16:34:43 -0500 (EST)
From: Brian Wherry <bwherry@acs.bu.edu>
To: DT List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Hehehehe...
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9603111643.C224871-0100000@acs2.bu.edu>
That was a little bit of a joke. Not only was there "NDTC," but
there was "NC" at all!! Hehehehehe....
--==Brian Wherry==--
--==bwherry@acs.bu.edu==--
"Do. Or do not. There is no try." -Yoda
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Date: 11 Mar 96 16:39:26 EST
From: Dave Fernquist <103362.445@compuserve.com>
To: Ytsejam <Ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Joe Satriani Show
Message-ID: <960311213925_103362.445_JHL123-1@CompuServe.COM>
Any Jammers going to see Satch this friday at the Riverside Performing Arts
Theatre? This guy gets better and better with each tour. He's got his regular
touring band with him (Stu Hamm & Jonathan Mover), and he puts on an amazing
show (guitar clinic, that is).
I'll be in loge row B (wearing a DT shirt); come join us for a beer and some
killer guitar!
Fern
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Date: 11 Mar 1996 13:33:13 GMT
From: "Steven Johnson" <svjohnson@amoco.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: YTSEJAM digest 1341
Message-ID: <199603112153.AA23583@interlock.amoco.com>
*** Reply to note of 03/11/96 09:57
Um....A couple of Aerosmith members DID go to Berklee. Not a far drive for
native Bostonians. There have been a couple industry ads with 'Smith guys in
'em during the school's anniversary last year. LATER-
Steve
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"I'll be defending you on the charge of......MURDER ONE!?! Wow!
Even if I lose, I'll be famous!!" - Lionel Hutz, attorney
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 16:56:18 EST
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To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mail Item Format Warning
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Date: 11 Mar 1996 13:38:13 GMT
From: "Steven Johnson" <svjohnson@amoco.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: YTSEJAM digest 1341
Message-ID: <199603112205.AA23945@interlock.amoco.com>
*** Reply to note of 03/11/96 09:57
Ummmmm....I like the detail in the art, but can we stop the sig. wars? My
comp. time is free, but most others' isn't and this has to be more off track
than the Jam has ever been. I am impressed with Jammers' keyboard abilities,
though. :) LATER-
Steve
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"I'll be defending you on the charge of......MURDER ONE!?! Wow!
Even if I lose, I'll be famous!!" - Lionel Hutz, attorney
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 16:53:50 -0500
From: e1557@risc.usfq.edu.ec
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: No more
Message-ID: <9603112153.AA15678@risc.usfq.edu.ec>
Dear ytsejammers:
This e-mail account has changed owner, and Im as interested in receivin bullshit
as a chimpanzee would be in advanced Tibetan Philosophical writers of the
first century B.C.
So, I would really appreciate if you only mail interesting trivia about Dream
Theater, like when the fuck's the new album coming out and stuff
So knock out the bullshit and star mailing interesting shit
Yours,
A fan without thirst for Homer-fucking-Bart shit
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 15:32:16 -0700
From: Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Dream Theater Dreams of Dream Theatering Drab
Message-ID: <199603112232.PAA11435@maple.enet.net>
Yes,
I too have had a dream with one/some/all of the members of Dream
Theater in it. I think this one ranks among the strangest we have yet heard.
Didilidoo
Didilidoo
Didilidoo
<screen image wavers...fades to my dream>
I went to a Dream Theater concert....it was at some restaurant or
something. A lot of people were there and I was right behind one of those
glass block windows or something.....then I was watching the band. After a
song was finished--Okay...this is the strange part--- Mike Portnoy leaned
over and made out with my math teacher. Don't ask, because I don't even
know..or want to, for that matter.
Ever notice that sometimes when you dream about somebody, that
person may look like somebody else, but in your dream you know it's the
first person? Or am I the only one? <----most probable answer
Have you guys seen Metallica lately? They CUT their HAIR! ALL of
'em. They look like a bunch of freaks! No offenses James...hey wait! I
said...whoa, what are you doing with that hammer...hey NO!!
AAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
Kirk looks like a clown that took his makeup off.
>The reason I want
>to make these changes is that I want to make this thing BIG, I mean REALLY
>BIG.
All RIGHT!!! So EVERYone will be there! Well...almost everyone.
WAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>"arrives the slient man"
> "you smell the silent fart"
>
>
> its gross and stupid
You got THAT right....
:-?
>I highly doubt members of Aerosmith went there, although they
>could be honorary degree holders. I highly doubt Candlebox and Collective
>Soul also, but it could be possible.
>
Let me reiterate......just because somebody DOESN'T play anything
super-hard/complicated doesn't mean they CAN'T.
As for the .SIG WARS OF YTSEJAM ISLE....you guys have WAY too much free
time. ;-)
I think (therefore I am) that the Surrounded intro sounds better with
piano than with the sound from the album...just seems less, and I hate to
say it, cheeeeeeeeeeeeesy. :-)
THE ULTIMATE YTSE-PRODUCT:
The Ytse-Signal. Just like the Bat Signal, except it's a
majlogo. :-) /me sings a variation of the Batman theme in 9/8.
>Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 11:29:51 -0500
>From: Jrney05@aol.com
>To: ytsejam@ax.com
>Subject: "asdf"
>Message-ID: <960311112950_443457113@emout08.mail.aol.com>
>
>ytsejam switch ack mode
Uh-oh...uh...hate to break it to ya, but that was a joke...ack mode sends
all the posts to you seperately...sorry! Sheesh. :-?
>Um are you making fun of my spelling? i am sorry i dont have the luxury
>of free internet access as you Freaks do...
What does the cost of internet access have to do with spelling? Anyways, I
don't have free access. I still manage to spell things right. At least he
capitalized Freaks. :-?
>WHY SHOULD IT MATTER WHAT I THINK ABOUT DT OR
>OTHER BANDS??? I AM JUST EXPRESSING AN OPINION (WHICH I THOUGHT WAS THE
>SOLE REASON FOR THIS FORUM..)
It doesn't matter....but if you say DT sucks I'll kick yer ass! :-) :-)
please.....lover lay down......cause it's over....say la say la la de da.....
Ben Laussade
NEW FAVORITE SONG! The Killing Hand
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 17:50:00 -0500 (EST)
From: "Ytse' Jim" <jlutz@hartford.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1342
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960311173459.7337A-100000@jabba>
>From: keu@pointblank.com
>>Change your style to become more popular?
>>I know you might find this hard to believe, but many musicians care about
>>the music they play. It's not _just_ about the money...
>AHH!! finally someone answered me with something i wanted to hear! If
>the bands dont make music for the money why then must there be awards
>for best album etc...??
I never said that bands don't play music for the money...I just said that
it wasn't the sole reason.
and what do music awards have to do with making money?
Many bands don't give a sh*t about awards...oh sure it would be nice, but
do you actually think bands go into the studio and say "Let make an album
that will win a Grammy..."
I don't seem to think so.
> WHY SHOULD IT MATTER WHAT I THINK ABOUT DT OR
>OTHER BANDS???
ummm.....It doesn't.
>I AM JUST EXPRESSING AN OPINION (WHICH I THOUGHT WAS THE
>SOLE REASON FOR THIS FORUM..)
Nobody said that ya couldn't....
But you should expect other peoples comments about your opinion...
especially when it's negative and unsubstantiated.
because that's what this forum is for.
({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})({})
) YtseJim ) The Greatest Trick (
( <YtseJim@dreamt.org> ( The Devil Ever Pulled )
) <lutz@uhavax.hartford.edu> ) Was Convincing The World (
( <jlutz@morpheus.hartford.edu> ( He Didn't Exist )
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 18:07:28 -0500
From: WhiteKP@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: asdf
Message-ID: <960311180727_443759508@mail02.mail.aol.com>
please take me off the mailing list
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 96 18:13:15 EST
From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: No more
Message-ID: <9603112313.AA06889@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
To start receiving interesting shit on the Jam, do the following:
1. unsubscribe from Ytsejam by sending a message to ytsejam-request@ax.com,
subject asdf, unsubscribe ystejam.
2. Subscribe to metropolis by sending mail to metropolis-request@arastar.com,
subject asdf subscribe metropolis.
Any questions?
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 23:33:52 GMT
From: KWMadden@usa.pipeline.com (Kevin Madden)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Metallica/Death, Black Pumpkin, Triumph, Blind Guardian, NDTC!
Message-ID: <199603112333.XAA18715@pipe17.h1.usa.pipeline.com>
1.
>>From: Gilbert Jack Thetgyi <thetgyi@bgnet.bgsu.edu>
>>To: ytsejam@ax.com
>>Subject: Mas Misc. Miasma
>>Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9603101844.A18640-0100000@bgnet2.bgsu.edu>
>>.
>>Anyone who likes those bands should go out and buy Death's _Symbolic_.
>>They are better musicians than the above 3 (don't slag me, 'tallica
>>is my 3rd favorite band). I think they're doing what Metallica should've
>>done after the Black album (if that were possible for them).
>Huh? What Metallica "should've done after the Black album"? Correct
>me if I'm wrong, but Live Sh*t: Binge & Purge was a live album. So
you've
>heard the new album? How is it?
Regardless of whether or not Metallica released another
album, there is no way they would have ended up
sounding like Death, imo. I seriously doubt Metallica
would ever put out anything that was as complex as
Death's "Symbolic." I admit that I count myself
among those who were extremely disappointed with
Metallica's direction following "Justice" and this post
really doesn't have a point. I guess I just don't consider
Metallica and Death to be comparable - a bit like the
apples and oranges argument. ANYWAY....
2.
A while ago I sent off a check for the new Hades CD
to a company which was soliciting it. The name of the
company was Black Pumpkin Records, and they were
the label which was to have released the disc. This
was in November or December. The check was cancelled
and I received - you guessed it - nothing. Does anyone
know anything about this label? A phone number? Anything?
3.
Is was browsing through the cdnow telnet site and
I saw a listing for Triumph - "In the Beginning" or some-
thing like that. Has anyone heard of this? Is it a re-release,
(which would make sense because they already had the
"Classics" compilation) or is it something new with the
"Edge of Excess" line-up? I thought I had heard a rumor
about Rik Emmett returning since his solo career did
NOTHING.
4.
I highly recommend the purchase of the import cd
"Imaginations From the Other Side" by Blind Guardian
if any of you enjoy the power metal genre. The music
is comparable to that of Gamma Ray (I guess) and the
singer somehow reminds me of a more gruff Robin
McAuley (MSG). Very well played, with memorable
arrangements and some progressive elements. It was
worth the 20-odd dollars I paid. If you shade towards
the heavier side of DT, this may be for you.
5.
That's it!
-- Kevin
(kwmadden@usa.pipeline.com)
GO PACKERS...GO WINGS.... 51 and counting!!!
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 18:21:38 EST
From: KTYA28B@prodigy.com (MS DEBBIE M VESTAL)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1341
Message-ID: <096.03309412.KTYA28B@prodigy.com>
Steve Wrote:
>Ummmmm....I like the detail in the art, but can we stop the sig. wars? My
>comp. time is free, but most others' isn't and this has to be more off
>track than the Jam has ever been. I am impressed with Jammers' keyboard
>abilities, though. :)
Aw cum on....a LITTLE insanity doesn't hurt that much does it? It sure
beats the hell out of the running flame war with Keu and I'm still getting
a box full of IBMMAIL AT FITPOL or whatever that is everytime I
check....but, alas, I'm sure that the .SIG war is drawing to a close(GGG).
And if it doesn't soon..WARNING..I'll be forced to dig out the GIANT
HUGBEAR, enemy of all who seek the stone comfort of reality, to peacefully
bring it to a disgustingly sweet end....Don't worry....I won't post
it....I'll just send it to various combatants in order to clutter their mailboxes.
On to more important matters....
RIPZERO WROTE:
>no flames here, just a few thoughts (uh oh:) i'd kinda like to see DT
>do some hard stuff for one track, just totally take a different turn,
>Have Jon grab that 7 stringer and run it through a death metal pedal
>and straight into an amp, cut the keyboards, and have some dude scream
>over everything :) One thing that caught my attention (this doesnt
>mean i dont like it, i'm just stating this) was that James will NEVER
>do anything un-melodic with his voice. just listen do the big medley
>on ACoS, on Rhapsody I feel he needed to get a little more grit on his
>voice, just my opinion though... anyone else?
He could use some grit occasionally...but it's HIS style. I like it but it
would be great to hear them rip it up and it would be even more interesting
to hear James try to sing that kind of music....'twould surely be different.
Cat
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~IN GODS WE TRUST.........................................
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ALL OTHERS PAY CASH......................
-STEVEN BRUST
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 96 18:46:46
From: STEVE <STEVE@kandu.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: clarification for Compilation CD
Message-ID: <347BC62F01810F00@kandu.com>
i just wanted to clarify something about the submissions for the DREG
compilation CD:
all submissions WILL be judged equally, regardless of when they are
received (as long as you make the deadline or have made special
arrangements with me).
it just helps me gauge and plan things better if i don't get all the submissions at
the same time. and most of all, i wouldn't want anyone to forget and
miss out...
any other questions or comments, feel free to email me at:
DREG Records
http://www.kandu.com/dreg/
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 19:19:46 -0500
From: GHSRocker@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Attention German Jammers
Message-ID: <960311191945_443825996@emout10.mail.aol.com>
I saw the following saying on a t-shirt:
"Lieber ein's zuviel, als ein's zu wenig."
Aktien Brauerie, Kaufbeuren
What does this say in english?
Thanks! Talk to you on the IRC. Bafu Vai(required content)
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 20:40:31 -0500 (EST)
From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Need that Erotomania post....
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960311203541.16481A-100000@galaga.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Metallica shaved their heads? That ought to be interesting....
Can i ask someone who gets non-digest mode to forward me the
post breaking down Erotomania into the time segments based on other Awake
songs? I seem to have erased that digest.
partha
ahtrap@umich.edu
p.s. about all that 'other than DT' stuff going around, well, at least
Michael COughlin hasn't returned with his "I've been saved by Jesus" routine
psm
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 19:37:09 -0700
From: swanson@henge.com (Sheila Swanson)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Korn
Message-ID: <199603120237.TAA00946@henge.com>
Excuse me? Did I hear someone ask what Korn is like live?
They RULE!!!!!!!
On Friday, I got a friend who was friendly with the lighting tech. get me on
the guest list for a sold out show at the Ogden(coolest venue in town). We
went, we saw, we moshed. Jonathan gives a totally psycho show, and all the
other members take the kind of show they're into and combine it. It's so
powerful. Later the lighting tech. got us all backstage where I met Fieldy.
Cool dude. We also hung around and got to meet Head and get autographs. I
don't care wheather you like Korn or not, they are cool guys. At least Head
and Fieldy are. Thanks a lot Zane, if you're there.
I whish I had known about the DT favorite song vote. I would have said Take
the Time. Totally some diverse guitar parts. Definitly my favorite.
All for now kids,
Cory
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